Niasse: two-goal super-sub

Second goal was a peach.

[Okay, the last part was a joke.]

Koeman pisses me off sometimes, like keeping dinosaurs in the side when we should be building for the future.

Seems like a nice guy and nobody liked the way that Koeman called him out as substandard without giving him a chance. Players need confidence. There are plenty of players who go through long periods of nothing coming off for them.

I hope he proves his critics wrong and hopefully his hard work will mean that we'll recoup most of that fee we paid out.

Says it all. OK?

He is playing at a team which play at a lower standard, a lower pace who are in a relegation battle for a good few reasons. Just because he's on the scoresheet it doesn't make him a good footballer, neither does it make him good enough for our team.

There's a few comments on here are making it out to be like the "beautiful" game is so simple when its not. There is a reason why pass completion, possession, tackles won etc are part of any team progressing, its because there is more than what meets the eye when you especially review the game in greater detail.

He's now playing for a team under the kosh who then break and he has a few to beat. For us then he'd have to show skills on the ball, passing, and compusure.

As said above, best to cash in than being him back.

Steve Ferns, How would he do that if he was never given a chance and his reserves performances were written off as against lesser talent? Do you really think, Hull's manager doesn't care about passing, composure, etc.? Seriously? Does, he tell them," just go out and knock it around boys, were going to defend with 11 behind the ball today anyway?"

Here is a thought, maybe watch his games in which he has played this season against the same opposition that Everton plays, before posting such recycled stuff about his YouTube clips. Watch his touch and passing and finishing. Yes, he sometimes doesn't get it right, but he is always attacking in their third. He is not better than Rom, and probably not better than Valencia, but would it have hurt to give him a try?

Looks like it will be a happy ending for everyone and we'll recoup most of the fee now.

If Koeman did walk out, the Hull manager would be my call. Hull look a different team under him.

A goal next week, on the other hand...

A return on the outlay for him wouldn't go amiss either.

These pages were full of posters declaring that he'd (Niasse) make the team in an "All-Time Worst 11" players who have ever darkened our towels.

He looked rank in the cameos that he was given last season and didn't look much better in preseason so don't let's have a queue of people saying he wasn't given time or he didn't look that bad. He looked shite and made Brett Angell look like Andy Gray.

He's been written off far too early, and that includes most on here. I mean how much did we actually see of the lad?

How skilled was Lineker? Not very... but he could put the ball in the net. No doubt Koeman will be too stubborn to have him back, but that is what should happen.

Insinuating Niasse is a junkie is a bit over the top. If you watch his goals they're a bit flukey. First one had a heavy first touch then he was just quick enough to make contact before the keeper. The second he kind of mishit then volleyed from about six yards out. He's just not very good but sometimes you get lucky.

Kind of like Podgorsky's "wonder goal" dribble against Portugal that earned him the Man Utd move. Far from a controlled dribble, he stumbled his way along with physics-defying ricochets but that was lost in the post match hype.

Ditto Niasse. He's got a big heart, a good attitude and he makes his own luck but we released him – not cause he's a junkie, wife beater or whatever – but because he's not very good.

I wonder what motivates some of the posters on this site but the only club I'm interested in is Everton FC and if any player isn't in that set-up, I really couldn't give a toss!!!!

Niasse may have been our striker 10 years ago but we have a manager who was a world class player and played with world class players. If you can't get a game under the management that bought you.... Only one outcome when Koeman was appointed.

Too many bleeding hearts.

And, to be realistic for a moment, Everton still hold his registration, and they did pay a significant wedge for the (admittedly debatable) privilege. So to keep a watching eye on our club investment might actually be the prudent thing, Patrick; I would maintain that, until he is actually sold on, he is very much part of the Everton set-up.

The goals came from the Hull midfield being creative and putting balls in behind the Swansea backline. It was the type of play we're trying to develop at Everton and Niasse made the most of it. Having a forward who will make runs the way Niasse did yesterday will allow our midfielders to play through balls. Imagine, Everton actually scoring goals from through balls from midfield.

You can say that the goals were for a Hull team fighting for their lives, or that they were against a poor Swansea team. But the majority of Lukaku's goals this season have come against poor teams. In how many games this season has Lukaku been anonymous? Niasse's movement was good yesterday, in how many games have we accused Lukaku of standing still like a statue giving out to those around him? I'm not saying Niasse is at Lukaku's level but a little bit of perspective lads please. Niasse can offer something different to Lukaku and may be the option we are looking for.

If Niasse continues to show his strengths then I think he has a future at Everton.

Rom was the main man & rightly so what was the harm in allowing Niasse at least a chance of a squad player? What's Konè played? 4-5 games this season. Niassé couldn't've done that much damage in the same amount of games, could he? He showed he can score goals with the U23s and despite ability, that's the one thing that doesn't change at any level. They're the same size and at in the same place wherever you play!

Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing and lends a lot of weight to my point but I'd rather see that gangly, unpolished trier that the pint of Guinness with the audacity to claim he's an Everton No 9.

Sidenote: Valencia isn't good enough either.

I think he, or his agent, must've said, or did, something to piss Koeman off so much, that there was no way back. We will probably never know for sure... or maybe Koeman was complete underwhelmed, and got rid.

He may only be an impact player from the bench, but I'd rather see him coming on than Kone or Valencia. However, it appears Koeman has made up his mind.

Whatever he's done to deserve the treatment he appears to have got is unfair, looking from the outside. Koeman is a good judge of character and was a world class player in his time. He also has that ruthless streak in him that gets the best out of players. Ask Ross!

Why was Mirallas so glum at the end of yesterday's game? He scored and was subbed later on, no big deal in the modern game. Something not right there?

A typical modern striker full of speed and athleticism but hardly able to control a ball he must have trained in the cliquey atmosphere of Finch Farm thinking, "WTFis going on here??"

Nice guy, glad he's doing well.

As for Niasse just forget him and Moyes. Let's just talk about Everton.

If you don't see the point in commenting on Niasse, firstly why bother reading the article? And secondly, why bother posting on it?

If it's not for you, don't read it, there are some of us that are interested in how our loan players are doing?

I'm guessing you couldn't care less about Deulofeu and others out on loan too.

I can see the attraction Martinez had when signing him – he may well have helped Martinez save us from relegation this season (had Martinez not been sacked).

Niasse, Kone and Valencia all have something in common – they're not good enough for EFC.

We have lots of players at EFC who hardly ever score goals and that is why Lukaku is so vital.With 10 games to go Barkley has five goals and Mirallas has four.These stats are not good enough for us to really progress.

Some people on here have some very short memories if they don't remember that Niasse refused to go on loan the first time...

Mr Koeman will be off too, in the not-too-distant future, if Arsenal, Barcelona, or Inter Milan come knocking.

Maybe we could swap Niasse for Maguire or Roberston, the left back at Hull; Baines is finished at top level football, his legs are gone.

Anyway, he's not better than Valencia, who's scored a couple for us, and would certainly have more if he were getting regular playing time at Hull, so what exactly are people even advocating for here? I'm glad to hear he's a better option than Kone - a guy who doesn't even sniff our bench and will be shown the door the second his contract expires.

At any rate, I have nothing against the guy and am glad he's doing well. Worst case scenario, Hull wants to buy him and we recoup some of our initial investment, which seemed unfathomable back in August.

The first priority for Ross was simply to re-find his form under the new manager. He now seems to have done that. The goals will surely come as he gets older, wiser and more savvy. For now, let's just enjoy him running the midfield and putting goals on a plate for Lukaku!

Plenty of us did criticize Koeman's handling of the situation. I posted on here numerous times how I believed it to be poor management to tell any player that no matter what they do they will not be getting anywhere near the pitch. It was ridiculous and still is.

That's not the same as believing he is some world beater. But is he better than Valencia or Kone? I think plenty could make that case. Either way, the position Koeman took to not let him anywhere near the first team despite him scoring at ease when in the Under-23s and now scoring for Hull, and otherwise looking a competent striker in a very poor team, continues to be a head-scratcher in my eyes.

Even when he was scoring in the Under-23s, Ronnie said he will not be part of Everton; for me, this cannot be down to footballing terms... for me, something has gone on behind the scenes. I cannot see any other reason on judging the guy on a couple of games.

How many could honestly say he would never make it? How many after the first season would say Jelavic would take a dip in form? You just cannot judge a player on a handful of games.

There is a story to come out here, but he kept his head down, played well in our U23s then when he got his Premier League chance, is taking it, to what appears to be the best of his ability. He might not be 㾹.5 million worth, but at least he's proved his ability. Plus he scored against the dark side.

People get on the back of those who judged him but I saw every minute he played for us (there were a few in pre season) and not once did he show that he even might have those kind of goals in his repertoire.

He couldn't control a ball, couldn't strike a ball. He stood on the ball and fell over while shooting. I saw him hit a pass with a 'technique' that I've never seen before. In short, Ali Dia put him to shame. It was reasonable to judge.

Could it have just been terrible nerves that got to him at Everton? Because he was beyond woeful; he didn't even show enough to earn minutes on the pitch to prove his worth.

They were two very good goals at the weekend. Good movement, good touch, good finishes. What the hell!!!

Niasse and to a lesser extent Deulofeu are unlikely to be the type of players that Koeman desires in his team. Mind you, in the event that Ross and Rom don't sign or move on in the summer, Ronald may not be Everton's manager anyway so we could be in for another hellish summer.

I woke up full of the joys of spring and feeling optimstic about all things Everton; a few hours later and things don't look quite as good – the next time the 13th of the month comes around, I'll spend the day in bed whether it is a Friday or not.

He was poor when he was with us, but maybe he has improved – players often do take a while to settle into the Premier League. His goals were pretty good I thought – neither was a tap-in. They needed pace, positioning, a decent first touch, and coolness.

Maybe he's not that much worse than Valencia or Calvert-Lewin. I don't think any of them are good enough for us.

That's about the same time Koeman took to make his mind up on Niasse, and he's now proven he's got "pace, positioning, a decent first touch and coolness" too!

Nothing like a quick assessment, is there...

Something appears to have happened behind the scenes, maybe more than one thing. Not only has he scored his goals at Hull, he looks a reasonable player. He's fast, moves well and pulls defenders around, he finds space, he's made a few good passes too. Plays the offside line well. One or two of his touches have been a little loose though.

I'm not saying he's outstanding or has anything we need now but he's far from useless.