Allardyce pleased with away point against battling Swans

Saturday 14 April 2018  71 Comments  [Jump to last]

Sam Allardyce hailed what he described as a “great point” after Everton's 1-1 draw at Swansea today.

The Blues were forced to settle for a draw when Jordan Ayew wiped out the lead they had secured through Kyle Naughton's own goal late in the first half.

The Swans had won their previous four home games, part of a impressive run of form under new manager Carlos Carvalhal, and they would have been disappointed not to have taken the lead themselves earlier in the first half, particularly when Ayew's shot deflected past the post off Leighton Baines and Cenk Tosun headed Federico Fernandez's header off the goal line.

The Blues rallied somewhat before half time and scored when Lukas Fabianski could only parry Idrissa Gueye's shot into Naughton and the ball crossed the line before Alfie Mawson hacked it away.

But after Jordan Pickford had denied Andre Ayew with a reaction save at his near post, the Swansea forward's brother levelled just moments after Tosun had cleared off his line again.

Seamus Coleman came close to winning it for Everton but saw his first-time effort come back off the crossbar.

“It was a great point for us,” Allardyce told the cameras after the game. “As I said before, I think we're the first team to take points off Swansea in the last five home games.

“They've beaten Arsenal and Liverpool, Burnley and West Ham and we've come here and taken the lead and dug out a battling point against a team fighting down at the bottom.

“Irrespective of how much pressure we were under, Seamus Coleman could have won it for us when he hit the bar so when you get a point away from home it's always to be respected in the Premier League.

“It is a big point for us. Not the best performance that we wanted but the point is very good, very precious, and it moves us on.

“Our passing should have been a lot better but we dug in there and we held our own and, like I said, it could have been a different story. I'm sure Swansea will be saying they should have won it and maybe they should have done but when you've got a goalkeeper like we have… he takes some beating, doesn't he?“

The poor standard of Everton's overall performance was not received well by travelling fans who had packed out the away section of the Liberty Stadium, with anti-Allardyce chants ringing out in the second half.

The manager remained typically unfazed by the criticism, however, when he was asked about it during his post-match press conference.

“I never get annoyed by the fans, personally, because they wanted to see us play better,” the Allardyce said.

“But you have to give some credit to the opposition who don't let us play better. They're fighting away for points at the bottom of the league.

“You have to overcome the opposition so in the end we've got a very precious point.

“Yes we'd have all liked to have played better, but there's been a big problem with our away results.

“In our last two away games we're trying to put that right, the confidence to get away results comes from not losing and we haven't lost today.”

 

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Damian Wilde
1 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:26:10
Shithouse. Delighted with a point and not losing. Most hated Everton manager ever, I would say. Agree?
David Barks
2 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:44:14
No, you damn fool, the confidence comes from winning!! It's the “don't lose” mentality that has sucked the life out of the club!
Peter Gorman
3 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:48:28
According to the BBC, Allardyce added this little peach;

"It's not the best performance but it moves us on. Our home form is our mainstay, we've been brilliant there this season."

Brilliant?!? He's got to go – utterly ridiculous man making a mockery of the fans.

Jay Harris
4 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:48:59
What I would like to know is how these guys get job after job yet continue to fail or bail with a huge payoff – and a golden Hello from the next charity.
Brian Murray
5 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:04:09
All well and good that 95 per cent of us are not fooled... but is Moshiri? I won't bother guessing if Bill is... Total buffoon.
Tony McNulty
6 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:05:59
Bob Newhart has a brilliant routine called the "School for Bus Drivers". Drivers can't innately know what to do (like blocking both lanes when pulling out, mispronouncing the names of streets etc.) You have to go to a school to learn these things.

I am beginning to think there must be a school for some football managers, with both Martinez and Sam graduates cum laude on the "Delusion" course.

Neil Lawson
7 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:14:29
What a complete knob.
Mike Hayes
8 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:23:45
Why doesn't Moshiri wake up and sack the fat shit?

Put some pride back into the club and satisfy the fans.

Andy Meighan
9 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:26:59
Wind-up merchant. Nothing more, nothing less.
Anthony Murphy
10 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:34:10
I'm now convinced he knows he's going and is taking the piss. He has the arrogance...
Johan Elmgren
11 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:41:40
Get him out of here!!

Allardyce out now!!

Nicholas Ryan
12 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:51:57
My younger lad (who somehow has gravitated to the Dark Side, and become a Red – it's a long story!) cheerfully refers to Big Sam, as 'Big Scum'. Not that easy to argue with him, just at the moment.
Colin Hughes
13 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:59:35
That's two Saturdays on the spin now we have been last on MotD, added to the fact that our away support have now started sitting down during the game – a trait only seen by snooty lah-dee-dah supporters of Fulham, Reading or Norwich – says just how uneventful we are to follow these days.
Mike Price
14 Posted 14/04/2018 at 00:07:43
He wants to go but he wants the sack... both are inevitable. Worst manager and character in our history.

This season has set us back years and has cost the owner hundreds of millions. We must have the lowest net worth squad in the league.
Nightmare season – and it may be compounded by them!

Frank Wade
15 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:10:58
I've been trying hard to pay attention, watched all the game today and I then read the Manager's "the point is very good, very precious, and it moves us on". I am confused. How is the point precious? Might turn out to be a precious point for Swansea.

How come recent managers post-Moyes talk such gibberish? Just how stupid does he think Mr Moshiri and the fanbase are? Four more games listening to this garbage.

Sean Chen
16 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:13:02
Both the board and Mr Moshiri have had several months now to plan for life after Mr Allardyce.

Or rather, should I say that, as a supporter of this storied club, I hope that the board and Mr Moshiri have a plan, any plan, for life after Mr Allardyce.

Iain Johnston
17 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:48:56
Shut up, Allardyce – no one's interested in what you have to say... unless it's Goodbye.

If not for Tosun and Baines, we would have lost heavily today.

Jerome Shields
18 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:20:13
Allardyce is reducing Everton expectations in an attempt to justify getting a new contract.

Everton are becoming one of those nobody teams that are read out at the end of final score on Saturdays. Queen of the South are more recognisable than Everton. Get rid of this drag on Everton's reputation while there is still hope.

Paul Birmingham
19 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:24:45
Sums up the most viscerally piss-poor season, in memory. Who at the EFC, really cares?

Geoff Brown
20 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:42:53
Colin (#13),

We always will be last on MotD as long as Fat Sam is in charge – this is the standard of 'football' we're subjected to now. He has to go.

Pete Clarke
22 Posted 15/04/2018 at 02:52:48
Anthony.

I am not sure he is convinced that he is going. I am now of the morbid horrifying thinking that he knows he is staying and every point gained is money in the bank for Moshiri.

William Cartwright
23 Posted 15/04/2018 at 03:37:17
Pete, you can't be right? can you? What actually happens if he stays on? Joking apart (I know its no joke), what the fuck do Evertonians do?

They cannot do the obvious, like not turn up, because that takes enormous unity. Bit like changing the government. I am seriously worried now.

Pete Clarke
24 Posted 15/04/2018 at 04:27:57
There is little noise coming from our owner as to what comes next so the only noise I want to hear now is the roar of disapproval for the owner, Kenwright and manager from our fans.

Shocking management for a club at the top level but we cannot just sit idle and hope because we have tried that one too often.

Jason Leung
25 Posted 15/04/2018 at 05:12:13
Fat Sam is here to stay for the duration of his contract, unless there is a massive protest of some sort from the fans – which I don't see happening.
Justin Doone
26 Posted 15/04/2018 at 06:10:22
Honestly, I'm happy with a point and surprised we didn't lose.

Not happy with style, Schneiderlin given game time, Bolasie starting, Sam or the Board.

Brian Porter
27 Posted 15/04/2018 at 06:31:13
Allardyce has to go, the sooner the better. Surely Moshiri can see he is setting us back years with his appalling defensive mindset. To claim a point away to mighty Swansea is a brilliant achievement – just shows the level of Allardyce's ambitions for the club. Is this really what Moshiri wants?

No way can we hope to challenge for even a top six place with this scumbag manager in charge. I don't think the word 'attack' exists in his vocabulary. We used to moan that Roberto didn't coach defence; well, I honestly don't think Allardyce coaches attacking at all. He just hopes the odd chance will come our way and that someone will prod it home.

If he's still here next season, I will sadly be turning my back on the team I’ve supported for 59 years. Are you proud of your achievement, Sam?

Matt Traynor
29 Posted 15/04/2018 at 07:20:20
Due to general cynicism with the way the game is now money-dominated, and players who really couldn't give a shit, I'm agnostic now about most things Everton. I still read TW to keep up to date with things, but really think we're sliding further behind with amateurism at Board Level continuing to embarrass us.

Allardyce fucked up the biggest job he would ever get through his own stupidity. Outside of national team manager, Everton is the biggest club job he's ever had, or will get. That's why he forced the board's hand by publically removing himself from the position when Everton fannied around, and then we suffer the embarrassment of going back to him!

He's not going to be ready to walk at the end of this summer, even with a payoff. Ergo he's going to be in charge of "rebuilding" for next season, so two more windows at least. Sadly I don't think our board has the foresight to realise how much damage can be done by a short-term manager.

Jeff Spiers
30 Posted 15/04/2018 at 07:29:17
Matt @29. Sad as it is, you are spot-on, mate.
Amit Vithlani
31 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:04:01
The thick veil of diplomacy from the potential outlets of influence – ex-players, the Echo and main stream media has always suggested to me no-one wants to be pushed off the gravy train, or the queue to curry favour, because they rocked the boat (sorry for the mixed metaphors).

This is RS-like. A load of ex-players helping themselves alongside lazy journos, not really willing to say what they see. Kirkbride penned an article but it lacked any real conclusion on what needed to be done.

The bigger story for me is therefore the fracturing of the relationship between the club, its vassals, and the fans. Few in the fanbase want Allardyce and disgruntlement is growing as people are having to put up with him for the rest of the season. It really can't be much fun going on away trips and watching this turgid shite.

This episode will live long in the memory. On the back of a disastrous season, some truly cretinous statements at the AGM and to Jim White, and doubts over the club finding money for the new stadium, I think Moshiri may well find the £150M of his own cash he invested in the club counting for little in the assessment of his contribution to the club. We have less debt but a worse squad, a dreadful manager, and question marks still linger over our future stadium.

The problem is, I suspect he has no-one lined up and does not trust Unsworth. It reflects very badly on him and his inability to bring in a solid replacement. Someone who the fanbase will rally around.

As an owner, his No 1 responsibility is getting the managerial appointment right... and, on that front, Moshiri has failed dismally so far.

Kim Vivian
32 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:27:02
Brian – same here. Unable to edit. I posted on the main thread about this but will send an email to MK. Is everyone else having the same problem?

On the subject of the game, I missed most of it unfortunately (or should that be..."fortunately") because I was at work, it seems we were lucky to get the point yesterday. How Ayew missed that sitter and Jenk's (that's how it's correctly pronounced by the way – 'J' does not figure in the Turkish alphabet) line clearance kept us in it. Saliently – we have failed to score again which no-one seems to have mentioned. Swansea managed that for us yesterday.

I've said before – what a waste of a year of my life this season has been.

Jim Bennings
33 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:27:37
Loser and will never be anything but a troubleshooter at small clubs.

How Moshiri, a man who apparently wants Everton challenging the top 4 clubs, inflicted Allardyce on us will be a mystery to me even if I watch Everton for another 50 years ... and I don't know if I can ever forgive or forget this episode, Farhad.

Jimmy Hogan
34 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:23:02
At least he has to admit now it's not just a few agitators on social media. The fans yesterday gave him enough stick for him to realise he is hated by one and all.

Fat Sam out because Nil Satis Nisi Optimum and his chewing gum all the time disrespects the badge.

Martin Nicholls
35 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:29:19
Jimmy (#34) – he got the same treatment at Turf Moor but continued to peddle his "a few online agitators" line.
Martin Nicholls
36 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:31:36
Incidentally, as I posted yesterday, the BBC accurately reported the fans' reaction to Allardyce whilst the red Echo claimed merely that the away fans "seemed disappointed".
Kase Chow
37 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:32:11
Sam had a chance to make himself a long term bet as Everton manager. In truth, the results haven't been terrible. If he'd come in and got us playing with verve, excitement and imagination and achieved the same results but had gotten the club and fan base excited again (like what Klopp had done), I'd give him a chance.

But the fact is, we have been very lucky under Sam. Loadsa penalties, a few own goals and a poor Premier League...

I am grateful he's kept us up but now we need a revolutionary manager to get us playing with energy, flair and style.

James Hughes
38 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:42:18
From The BBC's match report:

Everton fans turn on Allardyce, who expressed their displeasure with a string of derogatory chants about their team and manager.

And once Ayew equalised, the travelling supporters turned their fury specifically towards Allardyce, calling for his sacking after yet another uninspiring display.

Ken Kneale
39 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:43:12
The big question is: How do we ensure those in charge understand this disconnect?
Chris Leyland
40 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:48:29
Allardyce will not be our manager next season. He won't go until the end of this season for a whole host of possibilities. Here are a couple:

1. There may be some specific break clauses in his contract and it may be financially advantageous for the club to trigger one of those at a specific point – such as the end of the season.

2. We may have another manager already lined up but they aren't available until the close season and the club don't want to have to get rid of Allardyce, put in a short-term replacement and then appointment the chosen successor shortly after.

Jon Withey
41 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:08:58
He has done his specialist job – keeping him on would expose a lack of ideas in the club's hierarchy.
Julian Exshaw
42 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:32:57
Even in our worst days of the early 80s, 90s, I am pretty sure most of us here couldn't wait for the next game. For the first time ever, having been a fanatic for 45 years, I have reached a point where I barely know who we are playing next. This happened on Friday for the first time in my life.

My love for Everton hasn't and will never change but the crap we have seen this season has left most of us apathetic and I never thought this would happen. There is no way we can have another season like this with Allardyce or someone like Koeman in charge. No way!! Surely Moshiri sees this! 5 games to go, or is it 4 and who's up next??

Richard Lyons
43 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:54:17
Okay – let's play a game: pretend you're the new manager of any of the "Top 6" clubs, and that Everton has gone completely bust, resulting in a sale of all the players. Now, how many of the current Everton squad would you want?

Anyone besides Pickford?

Me neither...

So it's going to take a lot more than the removal of Allardyce to turn us into a club capable of challenging for a top 6 place.

And it kind of begs the question: is it all Allardyce's fault, or is there another manager who has the ability to make a silk purse from a sow's ear?

Tony Everan
44 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:56:09
All this ridiculous rhetoric from Sam is to improve his image when he negotiates his contract for West Bromwich or whoever he takes over in the summer.

I would be amazed if Mr Moshiri hasn't approached and offered the job to Fonseca or Silva already. I am confident of a smooth changeover next month.

Don't panic, he won't be here in June. Only 6 weeks or so until he departs.

Derek Thomas
45 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:58:03
If the uber-keen away support has turned, it 'should' be game set and match for Lardiola... but I won't hold my breath: this is The Ev here.

Day 1, I think Allardyce sat down with Moshiri and went through the games – the expected wins and loses – and has somehow contrived, despite his worst efforts, to get to the 40 points well ahead of plan.

Like others have stated – the amount of penalties and own-goals and pure fluke saves, deflections and opposition misses has been amazing.

This, just like the Arsenal / Koeman debacle, has caught Moshiri with his pants down in respect of a plan... hence it'll be Sam until the end of the season.

And god save us all if he's still here in August.

Eddie Dunn
46 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:11:35
Derek, if he is still here in August, we will most likely get 7th place next season. Allardyce has somehow got us up to 9th, with 8th a whisker away. The football and defensive mindset are horrible to watch but he is capable of getting us into the Europa League next season.

Moshiri will think that will do, as he is going to have to finance the new stadium. More turbulence around the club could be a headache for all concerned, and who knows if a new hand on the tiller would work out?

So, as much as I would like to see some good football played with a more attacking mindset, I am far from convinced that it is a priority of our board.

This season, the spectre of relegation was enough to scare the shit out of the moneymen. Big Sam can swan around knowing he has done his job. He exudes self-confidence and Moshiri will be mighty relieved that his investment is secure.

The Sam Show could be running for another year...

Tony Everan
47 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:21:37
Eddie, Mr Moshiri has to consider the massive 93% opposition to him being our manager too. Any downturn next season will cause unrest that will force him out. Fans just won't put up with it. Especially so when more than 90% didn't want him in the first place.

Moshiri's investment would then be dangling by a thread again as we search for any manager mid-season.

The safer bet is to start the season with total unity between the owner, manager, players and fans.

Anything less is inviting trouble.

Dave Williams
48 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:33:51
Tony (#44), I agree.

Sam has never managed a club with true ambition and, whilst this season has been dreadful, the ambition is still there. He has to talk up his own role and try to sell a poor display as a precious point if he is planning to go to West Brom, Sunderland or whoever. The clue is that he was only given an 18-month contract which is a clear indication that he was engaged to secure survival. Rumour has it that we offered 6 months first but he insisted on longer.

We now need a manager with burning ambition, fresh ideas, and who can build a team rather than spend fortunes on players who might be the best player at their club but not necessarily a great player anywhere else.

A new DOF is surely vital as this one has been a complete joke and, from the sound of things, a new CEO will be arriving who will have to be a ruthless businessman who can instil the hard professionalism at all levels which we need to fulfil our potential.

The old boys club must be examined to weed out those who are not worth their job and make sure that our young players are nurtured and not tossed on the scrap heap by a manager who wants to buy rather than build.

Arteta for me – clever, ambitious, learned from the best in Wenger and Pep, and played the game in the right way. Is he a gamble? Of course he is... but a better one than some middle-aged foreigner who doesn't know the Premier League and will do exactly what Ron did and spend a load of money.

I know nothing about Fonseca so maybe he is the man but, my god, we need to get the next one right and sort the whole structure out if we hope to compete with the rest.

Paul Kelly
49 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:39:34
Agree with you there, Eddie, but Jesus, how bad must the teams below us be if we do come in 7th/8th?

Ironically, most of them, when I've seen them, play better football, but points is what keeps us in the league and the owners suckling on teat of the cash cow that is the Premier League.

Happy days indeed, for them anyway.

Pat Waine
50 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:01:23
Koeman wrecked the club but Allardyce is no solution. He just hasn't a clue.
Len Hawkins
51 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:02:41
Reports in today's paper that Allardyce and Walsh are going and the club has linked up with Super-agent Mini Payola to guarantee better class players are signed.

So, if true, it looks like Mr Moshiri has got tired of poking money down the grid and wants to be watching something more to his liking after he has emptied his piggy bank.

Hopefully Boys Pen Bill will wave a teary goodbye to Goodison and sail off into sunset – with his ventriloquist's dummy, Woods too.

Brian Harrison
52 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:12:13
I think we have to realize that, apart from our match-going fans, nobody is interested in us as a club. We are just a very parochial club who have very little support amongst journalists, even our local Echo seem loathe to openly criticize Allardyce yet were quite vociferous against Hicks and Gillette.

Can we turn the apathy around and once again build a club that does attract the attention of our media? Well, you would think we have some things going for us that makes it possible.

We have an incredibly loyal fan base that, if reports are correct, have renewed their season tickets in record numbers, despite most despising the manager and with no guarantee he won't still be in charge next season. We nearly always sell out our away allocation. We have an owner who at least on paper will allow us to buy a better quality player.

Now I think we have a very knowledgeable fan base that won't expect that, by appointing a new manager, we will compete for a top 4 place or win a trophy in his first season. But what the fan base will be looking for is a manager who can give us the ambition to dream – something we haven't had for a long time. A team that is sent out to try and win games rather than a side sent out looking more to try and contain than win games.

Make sure the new manager, if there is to be one, defines that style of play that will excite Evertonians. I don't expect us to start playing like Man City but at least appoint a manager who wants to try and emulate that style of play. All the top teams play with power and pace, so appoint a manager who will purchase these type of players.

I have seen some great football clubs languishing in the lower leagues: Nottm Forest, the only British club to win back-to-back European Cups; Aston Villa, another team that has won the European Cup – something sadly we have never achieved; Leeds Utd, another great football club with a rich history like Everton. So all the signs are there that, if we don't get the next manager correct, we could very soon be down there with these once-great clubs.

John Hammond
53 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:56:01
Can we run another ToffeeWeb poll to see who still wants him to be manager next season? Surely must be close to 99% now...
Tom Evans
54 Posted 15/04/2018 at 13:20:19
Brian, our loveable neighbours did it in 1977 and 1978.
Soren Moyer
56 Posted 15/04/2018 at 14:14:19
Us watching Everton next year if Fat Sam remains!
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Derek Thomas
57 Posted 15/04/2018 at 14:57:26
Dave Williams @48; there are (recent?) pics on Twitter of Arteta and Dan Meis looking at stadium models or some such... what's going on? Are you an ITK???
George Cumiskey
58 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:09:20
As I've said on another thread, Allardyce is going nowhere. He said yesterday that it will take something dramatic for him not to be here next season.

He suits this board down to the ground – no ambition, just stay in the Premier League, and keep the TV millions coming in.

There's absolutely no vision or forward thinking at the top level of our club.

Ian Pilkington
59 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:10:05
Brian @52

Aston Villa were a once great club but most of their honours were achieved long ago. We have won more honours than Forest and Leeds put together.

The yardstick for Everton is to compete with the current top six, of which Man City, Spurs and Chelsea have won considerably less silverware than us, despite the longest run in our peacetime history without a trophy thanks to the hapless Kenwright regime.

Mal van Schaick
60 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:17:02
Allardyce has been paid for what he was asked to do, keep us in the league. Pay him off. Thank you and goodbye.

It is a rebuild job in some areas, with some quality players needed, and a manager who wants to entertain, get results, and please the fans.

Tony Stanley
61 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:59:48
Why doesn't he just go... far, far away?
Terry Downes
62 Posted 15/04/2018 at 17:20:23
All this talk of getting a manager who wants to entertain baffles me? Didn't we have one in Martinez and look how that ended up!

Fat Sam has to go no doubt about that but the bigger question is who wants to come???

Dave Williams
63 Posted 15/04/2018 at 17:44:21
No inside knowledge Derek, just my own preference. I don't think we have the money to buy our way into the top 6. I was at Plymouth v Portsmouth with a close friend yesterday and he gave a great analysis – two of the most iconic clubs in Europe in Man Utd and RS, best run and wealthiest club in Man City and three wealthy and very well run clubs in Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea who can offer the attraction of living in London to players. How do we break into that.

Answer is to assemble a staff of ruthless pros who are ambitious and experienced in their field, get a DOF who is more than a glorified scout and will actually run the football side of the club and then an ambitious, intelligent young manager who is desperate to prove himself and will work with young players. Buying a team won't work – Spurs learned this with the Bale money – but buying class players who want to succeed and merge some youth in with them might just see us develop a side capable of playing good football and winning big games.

Young and enthusiastic management together with dispensing with old or disinterested players would at least give us a chance – buying players who don't know the English game or who are cast offs from the big 6 will not work because the big 6 rarely get rid of players in their mid to late twenties who are playing well.

Arteta would be a gamble but so was Kendall at a younger age too.

Liam Reilly
64 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:00:48
The fact that Allardyce claimed in the post match interview that this season has been a success because he's saved us from relegation, just shows how far detached from the supporters he actually is. The word 'success' cannot be attributed to Everton Football Club in any shape or form for this dreadful season.

There was a time where I couldn't miss the Derby, but last week I was out with my kids when it was on and I couldn't even be bothered to tape it. That's because I can't watch this god awful football. It's the worst I've ever seen in 40-odd years supporting Everton and if this cretin is still in charge in August, I may care even less.

Jim Bennings
65 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:30:30
What’s all this fuss at Everton about not being able to beat (or rather at least trying to beat) a top 6 club?

Newcastle beat Arsenal and the lowly West Brom have just gone to Old Trafford and won 1-0.

Is it really worth the ridiculous fear factor that has existed at Everton Football Club for 15 months against the top 6?

Dermot Byrne
66 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:31:06
Worst thing is, maybe he did do the job he was employed for.

One step up next season but key is staying in Premier League in my view for Moshiri.

The real strategy is linked to new ground and a new club... with history.

Then we fly!

John G Davies
67 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:35:08
Jim (#65),

15 months? It's been going on since Moyes first season.

Jay Harris
68 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:58:20
I disagree, John G, it's been going on since Kenwright took over.
Jeff Spiers
69 Posted 15/04/2018 at 19:11:53
Mathematically, we can go down.
Keith Harrison
70 Posted 15/04/2018 at 20:16:37
Got to go. We need to raise our voices of dissent at the Newcastle game so Moshiri is made aware it's not just a few loons on the internet/social media.
Ed Prytherch
71 Posted 16/04/2018 at 03:00:10
From the BBC, referring to Man City "Their match at Everton saw them retain 82.13% possession, the highest recorded in the Premier League"

Thanks, Sam.

Greg Hasbrouck
72 Posted 16/04/2018 at 13:17:44
If I'm being honest, when Sam subbed Bolasie for Funes Mori, I began rooting for Everton to lose. With 20 minutes remaining, against the team that allows the 2nd most goals in the final 15 minutes, our manager was playing for a point.

Safe from relegation, playing for a point. With an outside chance at Europe, playing for a point.

I'm fearful Moshiri may use our final table position as a barometer as to whether Sam should stay. There's part of me who's hoping we finish 17th.

Brian Porter
73 Posted 16/04/2018 at 20:53:21
In case nobody noticed, Lookman scored for RB Leipzig yesterday to earn them a point.
Geoffrey Williams
74 Posted 17/04/2018 at 09:30:45
Taking Bolaisie off and replacing him with ANYONE would improve the team.

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