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Allardyce pleased with away point against battling Swans
Sam Allardyce hailed what he described as a “great point” after Everton's 1-1 draw at Swansea today.
The Blues were forced to settle for a draw when Jordan Ayew wiped out the lead they had secured through Kyle Naughton's own goal late in the first half.
The Swans had won their previous four home games, part of a impressive run of form under new manager Carlos Carvalhal, and they would have been disappointed not to have taken the lead themselves earlier in the first half, particularly when Ayew's shot deflected past the post off Leighton Baines and Cenk Tosun headed Federico Fernandez's header off the goal line.
The Blues rallied somewhat before half time and scored when Lukas Fabianski could only parry Idrissa Gueye's shot into Naughton and the ball crossed the line before Alfie Mawson hacked it away.
But after Jordan Pickford had denied Andre Ayew with a reaction save at his near post, the Swansea forward's brother levelled just moments after Tosun had cleared off his line again.
Seamus Coleman came close to winning it for Everton but saw his first-time effort come back off the crossbar.
“It was a great point for us,” Allardyce told the cameras after the game. “As I said before, I think we're the first team to take points off Swansea in the last five home games.
“They've beaten Arsenal and Liverpool, Burnley and West Ham and we've come here and taken the lead and dug out a battling point against a team fighting down at the bottom.
“Irrespective of how much pressure we were under, Seamus Coleman could have won it for us when he hit the bar so when you get a point away from home it's always to be respected in the Premier League.
“It is a big point for us. Not the best performance that we wanted but the point is very good, very precious, and it moves us on.
“Our passing should have been a lot better but we dug in there and we held our own and, like I said, it could have been a different story. I'm sure Swansea will be saying they should have won it and maybe they should have done but when you've got a goalkeeper like we have… he takes some beating, doesn't he?“
The poor standard of Everton's overall performance was not received well by travelling fans who had packed out the away section of the Liberty Stadium, with anti-Allardyce chants ringing out in the second half.
The manager remained typically unfazed by the criticism, however, when he was asked about it during his post-match press conference.
“I never get annoyed by the fans, personally, because they wanted to see us play better,” the Allardyce said.
“But you have to give some credit to the opposition who don't let us play better. They're fighting away for points at the bottom of the league.
“You have to overcome the opposition so in the end we've got a very precious point.
“Yes we'd have all liked to have played better, but there's been a big problem with our away results.
“In our last two away games we're trying to put that right, the confidence to get away results comes from not losing and we haven't lost today.”
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2 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:44:14
3 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:48:28
"It's not the best performance but it moves us on. Our home form is our mainstay, we've been brilliant there this season."
Brilliant?!? He's got to go utterly ridiculous man making a mockery of the fans.
4 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:48:59
5 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:04:09
6 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:05:59
I am beginning to think there must be a school for some football managers, with both Martinez and Sam graduates cum laude on the "Delusion" course.
7 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:14:29
8 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:23:45
Put some pride back into the club and satisfy the fans.
9 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:26:59
10 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:34:10
11 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:41:40
Allardyce out now!!
12 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:51:57
13 Posted 14/04/2018 at 23:59:35
14 Posted 14/04/2018 at 00:07:43
This season has set us back years and has cost the owner hundreds of millions. We must have the lowest net worth squad in the league.
Nightmare season and it may be compounded by them!
15 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:10:58
How come recent managers post-Moyes talk such gibberish? Just how stupid does he think Mr Moshiri and the fanbase are? Four more games listening to this garbage.
16 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:13:02
Or rather, should I say that, as a supporter of this storied club, I hope that the board and Mr Moshiri have a plan, any plan, for life after Mr Allardyce.
17 Posted 15/04/2018 at 00:48:56
If not for Tosun and Baines, we would have lost heavily today.
18 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:20:13
Everton are becoming one of those nobody teams that are read out at the end of final score on Saturdays. Queen of the South are more recognisable than Everton. Get rid of this drag on Everton's reputation while there is still hope.
19 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:24:45
20 Posted 15/04/2018 at 01:42:53
We always will be last on MotD as long as Fat Sam is in charge this is the standard of 'football' we're subjected to now. He has to go.
22 Posted 15/04/2018 at 02:52:48
I am not sure he is convinced that he is going. I am now of the morbid horrifying thinking that he knows he is staying and every point gained is money in the bank for Moshiri.
23 Posted 15/04/2018 at 03:37:17
They cannot do the obvious, like not turn up, because that takes enormous unity. Bit like changing the government. I am seriously worried now.
24 Posted 15/04/2018 at 04:27:57
Shocking management for a club at the top level but we cannot just sit idle and hope because we have tried that one too often.
25 Posted 15/04/2018 at 05:12:13
26 Posted 15/04/2018 at 06:10:22
Not happy with style, Schneiderlin given game time, Bolasie starting, Sam or the Board.
27 Posted 15/04/2018 at 06:31:13
No way can we hope to challenge for even a top six place with this scumbag manager in charge. I don't think the word 'attack' exists in his vocabulary. We used to moan that Roberto didn't coach defence; well, I honestly don't think Allardyce coaches attacking at all. He just hopes the odd chance will come our way and that someone will prod it home.
If he's still here next season, I will sadly be turning my back on the team I've supported for 59 years. Are you proud of your achievement, Sam?
29 Posted 15/04/2018 at 07:20:20
Allardyce fucked up the biggest job he would ever get through his own stupidity. Outside of national team manager, Everton is the biggest club job he's ever had, or will get. That's why he forced the board's hand by publically removing himself from the position when Everton fannied around, and then we suffer the embarrassment of going back to him!
He's not going to be ready to walk at the end of this summer, even with a payoff. Ergo he's going to be in charge of "rebuilding" for next season, so two more windows at least. Sadly I don't think our board has the foresight to realise how much damage can be done by a short-term manager.
30 Posted 15/04/2018 at 07:29:17
31 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:04:01
This is RS-like. A load of ex-players helping themselves alongside lazy journos, not really willing to say what they see. Kirkbride penned an article but it lacked any real conclusion on what needed to be done.
The bigger story for me is therefore the fracturing of the relationship between the club, its vassals, and the fans. Few in the fanbase want Allardyce and disgruntlement is growing as people are having to put up with him for the rest of the season. It really can't be much fun going on away trips and watching this turgid shite.
This episode will live long in the memory. On the back of a disastrous season, some truly cretinous statements at the AGM and to Jim White, and doubts over the club finding money for the new stadium, I think Moshiri may well find the £150M of his own cash he invested in the club counting for little in the assessment of his contribution to the club. We have less debt but a worse squad, a dreadful manager, and question marks still linger over our future stadium.
The problem is, I suspect he has no-one lined up and does not trust Unsworth. It reflects very badly on him and his inability to bring in a solid replacement. Someone who the fanbase will rally around.
As an owner, his No 1 responsibility is getting the managerial appointment right... and, on that front, Moshiri has failed dismally so far.
32 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:27:02
On the subject of the game, I missed most of it unfortunately (or should that be..."fortunately") because I was at work, it seems we were lucky to get the point yesterday. How Ayew missed that sitter and Jenk's (that's how it's correctly pronounced by the way 'J' does not figure in the Turkish alphabet) line clearance kept us in it. Saliently we have failed to score again which no-one seems to have mentioned. Swansea managed that for us yesterday.
I've said before what a waste of a year of my life this season has been.
33 Posted 15/04/2018 at 08:27:37
How Moshiri, a man who apparently wants Everton challenging the top 4 clubs, inflicted Allardyce on us will be a mystery to me even if I watch Everton for another 50 years ... and I don't know if I can ever forgive or forget this episode, Farhad.
34 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:23:02
Fat Sam out because Nil Satis Nisi Optimum and his chewing gum all the time disrespects the badge.
35 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:29:19
36 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:31:36
37 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:32:11
But the fact is, we have been very lucky under Sam. Loadsa penalties, a few own goals and a poor Premier League...
I am grateful he's kept us up but now we need a revolutionary manager to get us playing with energy, flair and style.
38 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:42:18
Everton fans turn on Allardyce, who expressed their displeasure with a string of derogatory chants about their team and manager.
And once Ayew equalised, the travelling supporters turned their fury specifically towards Allardyce, calling for his sacking after yet another uninspiring display.
39 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:43:12
40 Posted 15/04/2018 at 09:48:29
1. There may be some specific break clauses in his contract and it may be financially advantageous for the club to trigger one of those at a specific point such as the end of the season.
2. We may have another manager already lined up but they aren't available until the close season and the club don't want to have to get rid of Allardyce, put in a short-term replacement and then appointment the chosen successor shortly after.
41 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:08:58
42 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:32:57
My love for Everton hasn't and will never change but the crap we have seen this season has left most of us apathetic and I never thought this would happen. There is no way we can have another season like this with Allardyce or someone like Koeman in charge. No way!! Surely Moshiri sees this! 5 games to go, or is it 4 and who's up next??
43 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:54:17
Anyone besides Pickford?
Me neither...
So it's going to take a lot more than the removal of Allardyce to turn us into a club capable of challenging for a top 6 place.
And it kind of begs the question: is it all Allardyce's fault, or is there another manager who has the ability to make a silk purse from a sow's ear?
44 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:56:09
I would be amazed if Mr Moshiri hasn't approached and offered the job to Fonseca or Silva already. I am confident of a smooth changeover next month.
Don't panic, he won't be here in June. Only 6 weeks or so until he departs.
45 Posted 15/04/2018 at 10:58:03
Day 1, I think Allardyce sat down with Moshiri and went through the games the expected wins and loses and has somehow contrived, despite his worst efforts, to get to the 40 points well ahead of plan.
Like others have stated the amount of penalties and own-goals and pure fluke saves, deflections and opposition misses has been amazing.
This, just like the Arsenal / Koeman debacle, has caught Moshiri with his pants down in respect of a plan... hence it'll be Sam until the end of the season.
And god save us all if he's still here in August.
46 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:11:35
Moshiri will think that will do, as he is going to have to finance the new stadium. More turbulence around the club could be a headache for all concerned, and who knows if a new hand on the tiller would work out?
So, as much as I would like to see some good football played with a more attacking mindset, I am far from convinced that it is a priority of our board.
This season, the spectre of relegation was enough to scare the shit out of the moneymen. Big Sam can swan around knowing he has done his job. He exudes self-confidence and Moshiri will be mighty relieved that his investment is secure.
The Sam Show could be running for another year...
47 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:21:37
Moshiri's investment would then be dangling by a thread again as we search for any manager mid-season.
The safer bet is to start the season with total unity between the owner, manager, players and fans.
Anything less is inviting trouble.
48 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:33:51
Sam has never managed a club with true ambition and, whilst this season has been dreadful, the ambition is still there. He has to talk up his own role and try to sell a poor display as a precious point if he is planning to go to West Brom, Sunderland or whoever. The clue is that he was only given an 18-month contract which is a clear indication that he was engaged to secure survival. Rumour has it that we offered 6 months first but he insisted on longer.
We now need a manager with burning ambition, fresh ideas, and who can build a team rather than spend fortunes on players who might be the best player at their club but not necessarily a great player anywhere else.
A new DOF is surely vital as this one has been a complete joke and, from the sound of things, a new CEO will be arriving who will have to be a ruthless businessman who can instil the hard professionalism at all levels which we need to fulfil our potential.
The old boys club must be examined to weed out those who are not worth their job and make sure that our young players are nurtured and not tossed on the scrap heap by a manager who wants to buy rather than build.
Arteta for me clever, ambitious, learned from the best in Wenger and Pep, and played the game in the right way. Is he a gamble? Of course he is... but a better one than some middle-aged foreigner who doesn't know the Premier League and will do exactly what Ron did and spend a load of money.
I know nothing about Fonseca so maybe he is the man but, my god, we need to get the next one right and sort the whole structure out if we hope to compete with the rest.
49 Posted 15/04/2018 at 11:39:34
Ironically, most of them, when I've seen them, play better football, but points is what keeps us in the league and the owners suckling on teat of the cash cow that is the Premier League.
Happy days indeed, for them anyway.
50 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:01:23
51 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:02:41
So, if true, it looks like Mr Moshiri has got tired of poking money down the grid and wants to be watching something more to his liking after he has emptied his piggy bank.
Hopefully Boys Pen Bill will wave a teary goodbye to Goodison and sail off into sunset with his ventriloquist's dummy, Woods too.
52 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:12:13
Can we turn the apathy around and once again build a club that does attract the attention of our media? Well, you would think we have some things going for us that makes it possible.
We have an incredibly loyal fan base that, if reports are correct, have renewed their season tickets in record numbers, despite most despising the manager and with no guarantee he won't still be in charge next season. We nearly always sell out our away allocation. We have an owner who at least on paper will allow us to buy a better quality player.
Now I think we have a very knowledgeable fan base that won't expect that, by appointing a new manager, we will compete for a top 4 place or win a trophy in his first season. But what the fan base will be looking for is a manager who can give us the ambition to dream something we haven't had for a long time. A team that is sent out to try and win games rather than a side sent out looking more to try and contain than win games.
Make sure the new manager, if there is to be one, defines that style of play that will excite Evertonians. I don't expect us to start playing like Man City but at least appoint a manager who wants to try and emulate that style of play. All the top teams play with power and pace, so appoint a manager who will purchase these type of players.
I have seen some great football clubs languishing in the lower leagues: Nottm Forest, the only British club to win back-to-back European Cups; Aston Villa, another team that has won the European Cup something sadly we have never achieved; Leeds Utd, another great football club with a rich history like Everton. So all the signs are there that, if we don't get the next manager correct, we could very soon be down there with these once-great clubs.
53 Posted 15/04/2018 at 12:56:01
54 Posted 15/04/2018 at 13:20:19
57 Posted 15/04/2018 at 14:57:26
58 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:09:20
He suits this board down to the ground no ambition, just stay in the Premier League, and keep the TV millions coming in.
There's absolutely no vision or forward thinking at the top level of our club.
59 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:10:05
Aston Villa were a once great club but most of their honours were achieved long ago. We have won more honours than Forest and Leeds put together.
The yardstick for Everton is to compete with the current top six, of which Man City, Spurs and Chelsea have won considerably less silverware than us, despite the longest run in our peacetime history without a trophy thanks to the hapless Kenwright regime.
60 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:17:02
It is a rebuild job in some areas, with some quality players needed, and a manager who wants to entertain, get results, and please the fans.
61 Posted 15/04/2018 at 15:59:48
62 Posted 15/04/2018 at 17:20:23
Fat Sam has to go no doubt about that but the bigger question is who wants to come???
63 Posted 15/04/2018 at 17:44:21
Answer is to assemble a staff of ruthless pros who are ambitious and experienced in their field, get a DOF who is more than a glorified scout and will actually run the football side of the club and then an ambitious, intelligent young manager who is desperate to prove himself and will work with young players. Buying a team won't work Spurs learned this with the Bale money but buying class players who want to succeed and merge some youth in with them might just see us develop a side capable of playing good football and winning big games.
Young and enthusiastic management together with dispensing with old or disinterested players would at least give us a chance buying players who don't know the English game or who are cast offs from the big 6 will not work because the big 6 rarely get rid of players in their mid to late twenties who are playing well.
Arteta would be a gamble but so was Kendall at a younger age too.
64 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:00:48
There was a time where I couldn't miss the Derby, but last week I was out with my kids when it was on and I couldn't even be bothered to tape it. That's because I can't watch this god awful football. It's the worst I've ever seen in 40-odd years supporting Everton and if this cretin is still in charge in August, I may care even less.
65 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:30:30
Newcastle beat Arsenal and the lowly West Brom have just gone to Old Trafford and won 1-0.
Is it really worth the ridiculous fear factor that has existed at Everton Football Club for 15 months against the top 6?
66 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:31:06
One step up next season but key is staying in Premier League in my view for Moshiri.
The real strategy is linked to new ground and a new club... with history.
Then we fly!
67 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:35:08
15 months? It's been going on since Moyes first season.
68 Posted 15/04/2018 at 18:58:20
69 Posted 15/04/2018 at 19:11:53
70 Posted 15/04/2018 at 20:16:37
71 Posted 16/04/2018 at 03:00:10
Thanks, Sam.
72 Posted 16/04/2018 at 13:17:44
Safe from relegation, playing for a point. With an outside chance at Europe, playing for a point.
I'm fearful Moshiri may use our final table position as a barometer as to whether Sam should stay. There's part of me who's hoping we finish 17th.
73 Posted 16/04/2018 at 20:53:21
74 Posted 17/04/2018 at 09:30:45
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1 Posted 14/04/2018 at 22:26:10