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Allardyce insists he has clarity on moving forward with Everton
Speculation over whether or not he would remain as Everton's manager beyond this season intensified yesterday following newspaper reports on The Mirror and Daily Mail websites that Allardyce had failed to get the answers he was seeking from Farhad Moshiri at a meeting in London yesterday.
Both papers claimed that the club's major shareholder has yet to make a decision over whether or not to retain the unpopular 63-year-old as boss for the last year of his 18-month contract but Allardyce was insistent that that was not the case during his press conference at Finch Farm this morning.
“We discussed the plans for next season yesterday with Farhad,” Allardyce said, “and we've got some clarity now moving forward.
“Our pre-season is nearly in place. The ins and outs of players is a pure wait-and-see basis in terms of what we can try and achieve. And then, under those circumstances, we [can decide] what players we want to move on [which] is a natural part of everyone's pre-season.
“We've had a discussion in that manner and we try and move forward together at the end of the season as quick as we can.”
Asked to reiterate that everyone was “on board together” for next season, the manager retorted: “Didn't I just say that? For clarification — yes.”
Doubts have strengthened over Allardyce's position in part because of supporters' frustration with the standard of football on view at Everton since he stabilised the situation starting when he took over from David Unsworth in November.
The Blues have a solid record under the former Bolton, West Ham, Sunderland, Newcastle and Crystal Palace boss that has elevated them from 13th to 8th place but dull performances with few goals have seemed to confirm Allardyce's reputation for uninspiring football.
He tried to answer those criticisms at his presser, saying: "You always want to strive to do better [but], because we started my reign so well, we built up a great expectation that it would be better than it is now.
"I think, in reality, what we've done since we've been here and how hard we've all worked, we've achieved a good way forward in the space of five months.
"We've strived to get better and to be more consistent. Certainly at home you cannot argue with the consistency or quality that we've shown and the results.
"And away from home it's still ongoing in terms of our capabilities of getting better which has obviously been a long-term problem here at Everton.
"What is entertainment?" he asked before going on to criticise Newcastle for not allowing Everton to be more exciting in last Monday's match. "Entertainment is the master of defence... [look at] Simeone — is that entertainment? He's a master of his trade and defence.
"I'm seen as too negative and defensive. I don't think that's unfair; we all want to be more entertaining. From where we started to where we are now, we've achieved some extremely entertaining games.
"When you look at Newcastle... entertainment comes by both teams being a bit more open and a bit more adventurous but Newcastle weren't adventurous whatsoever. It's very difficult to break down 10 or 11 players in their own half.
"I think we're more entertaining than when I arrived here. I think we've got more confidence as an attacking force. I think there was a middle spell where we tried to evolve in that but started losing football matches so I think we've got the balance better now with the results that we've gained."
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2 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:42:26
3 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:44:15
I've rang the club to cancel my membership – you can't, by the way, it just expires. Well, I've informed them that I won't be renewing it and will not be attending any matches next season if he's in charge.
They've been hopping with similar calls all day she said. I urge everyone to do the same. There has to be vocal and visual protests from every remaining match to get the message across resoundingly.
We have to be proactive to get this man out. I'm fuming.
Allardyce out!
4 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:45:11
6 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:46:18
Email him, everybody!
7 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:46:29
8 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:54:11
Watch this space and if he's not gone before the week's out be very afraid people. Be very afraid. The prospect of him being at our club next season is too awful to contemplate.
9 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:57:16
10 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:00:59
If Moshiri could find someone better – like Fonseca, say – then he would have options. He still might in the summer.
However, last time, when we got rid of Koeman, no-one would come that fits the agenda of improvement.
Boycotts, complaints, not supporting the club is just a double negative on top of the ditch we have been in.
11 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:02:43
12 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:03:43
13 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:10:40
If you don't know by now, Samuel, you never will.
14 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:15:22
Let's hope the clarity was "You and Walsh won't be here for next season!"
15 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:18:48
For clarity, if Moshiri wants him to stay at least one more season, then he needs to come out and say so for everyone's sake, including Allardyce's.
Otherwise, you'll get people like me scanning every word that is said...
I think it is more likely that Allardyce will leave Everton in the close season, a mutual parting of the ways, rather than essentially be sacked, but still get a decent pay-off... if that makes sense...
Whilst I am not a fan of Allardyce, if he stays, what I wouldn't like to see happen is for some of the players, especially the younger ones coming through or on loan like Lookman, Vlasic and Baningime, who show promise, be shown the door by Allardyce, only for Allardyce to leave, with a new manager coming in who could have got the best out of the players who depart etc... hope that makes sense!
16 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:22:29
"Well, the cheaper option it is then, Sam is the man!" Says Bill.
T'was ever thus!
17 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:25:51
1) Moshiri's meeting with "those two", producing "no clear outcome".
2) Watching the presser just now (via the OS, so this MUST be the sanctioned version).
Admittedly, he didn't look exactly exuberant as I most surely would if I had been told only the day before by Moshiri that I was to give full steam ahead with regard to "Project Everton Season 2018-19". Frankly, I'd be all smiles and happily riding atop the elephant in the room.
The gossamer thread that I am clinging to at present is that Moshiri has simply gone through the current contract details to emphasise that this season is not yet complete and until it is complete that results are only interim.
Still cannot see that next season will begin with the boardroom newly swept clean, a powerhouse Executive Chairman installed (Nicola Cortese, for Me) and hand picked DoF and Manager installed and settled, a couple of exciting eyebrow raising signings made and a thoroughly encouraging preseason completed. Frankly, not only can I not see all of this, I just cannot see any of this happening whatsoever. None. Nil. Fuckall.
Allardyce Out !
18 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:31:46
19 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:34:09
robert.elstone@evertonfc.com
20 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:38:38
Well done Jay.
21 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:41:07
I will not be foing to Goodison after 54 years attending through thick and thin, but enough is enough.
Sam Allardyce actually hasn't said he is staying or leaving. Which in turn feeds the uncertainty amongst us all.
All I want is someone to say it how it is. Is that too much to ask?
Probably!
23 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:45:01
Get paid lad. Anyone who wants a better future for our club should follow your lead. Mine's sent!!
24 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:49:47
Fortunately for me, I doubt very much that Allardyce will be here. I just rang really to ask how many had rung up like me over the same topic; he said it was true to say that it was literally dozens.
25 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:50:29
Dear Mr Elstone.
This will be about the third or fourth time I have sent you an e.mail regarding the current manager, as well as the previous one, Ronald Koeman.
I'll put this to you simply, Mr Elstone, there are thousands upon thousands of Everton fans who do not want Allardyce as our manager. The recent survey published by the club, rightly or wrongly, will prove that the fans do not have any faith in him at all, to lead our team next season.
There was also a recent poll on the Everton fans website, ToffeeWeb, when out of over twelve thousand votes, about 93% of the poll voted they did not want him to remain in charge.
The board of Everton Football Club needs to start listening to the fans otherwise they will start voting with their feet and stay away from future home games. I have already heard of fans not renewing season tickets, or contacting the club asking for their renewal for next season to be cancelled, while he remains in charge. To hear him talking this morning, following his meeting Mr Moshiri yesterday, that he is now making plans for next season is totally soul destroying to the fan base of the club.
Whilst I know this will soon no longer concern you, given you are supposed to be leaving the club in the near future, I would be grateful if you could refer my thoughts and concerns, and no doubt countless thousands of others, to the rest of the board members, and please remove Mr Sam Allardyce from his position of Everton Football is as soon as possible.
26 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:51:01
Prepare for negativity, no-win games mentality and zero creativity going forward... It will be hard to watch next season, I wonder how many games one can stomach... Prepare for midtable mediocracy... I despair!!
Allardyce out now!!
27 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:51:44
I thought the last one to be the most important as he is Moshiri's man on the Board and there is no other way of getting through to Moshiri himself. I didn't expect a reply and haven't had one; however, a mate of mine who had emailed the Club prior to me did get a call from a junior member of Everton staff today – obviously, nothing of significance was said but these emails must be having some impact. As I say, I think Ryazantsev is the man to contact.
Allardyce out!!!
28 Posted 27/04/2018 at 15:55:30
Had a decent December against struggling teams but still lost to B'mouth and a goal-less draw, abject performance, against West Brom. Also took several buses, parked them, and then dug trenches in the draw against the RS. Awful football on display all month.
Then had an indifferent January, salvaged by a win on the last day of the month (P5,W1. D1, L3) conceding 12 goals, scoring 4 and still fail to beat the Baggies who are in free fall. We are still watching some of the worst football ever seen, anywhere.
But no, We have had a great start to your reign, your majesty.
Yes Sam, you are a footballing GENIUS. We are lucky to have you and this time next year, sorry year after next, we will be in the semis of the Champions league.
i am now off to find a religion that will have me. Just so each day I can fall to my knees and thank God for Sam coming to Everton.
29 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:01:15
30 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:01:19
Besides, what else are you going to do?? Watch the "football"? Ha – you must be joking??
The idea of this horror show being in the dugout next season makes me want to puke.
31 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:01:53
There are certain football clubs I cannot stand but Everton right now top the list.
32 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:03:37
Other than that, I'm quite apathetic to the whole saga.
33 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:08:02
34 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:11:09
Sasha is a good shout though.
35 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:11:58
I just got exactly the same message... Sam obviously can't count on the support of the people in the ticket office.
36 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:14:34
I see today he is mocking Simeone saying he is boring for having such a good defensive record at Atletico.
Nobody pointed out to him how we went on against Arsenal.
37 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:18:03
38 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:21:11
39 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:22:07
40 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:22:50
As with others, I've just emailed Robert Elstone.
Now have sent the very same content to Sasha Ryazanstev.
I wasn't going to bother with Barren Hardup as I've had enough of "The Pantomime Dame", then I thought "No ! Fuckkit ! He can have a slice too !".
Allardyce Out !
For those that are interested, this is what I sent to all three:
Subject: Grave Concern
Dear Mr. Ryazantsev,
Recent events openly available, widely reported have not been plainly refuted officially by the club. Therefore, it is with grave concern that I request unequivocal official reassurance that Sam Allardyce will not be retained as manager for the forthcoming season.
As I have already purchased My season ticket, I feel that attending home games with this man in charge will continue to be a worthless waste of My time. This would leave Me with the deeply regrettable decision to refrain from actually entering Goodison Park on match days.
I would, however, intend to make these feelings known outside the ground rather than enter. Furthermore, I formally request that you make these feelings known to Mr. Moshiri. As you know only too well, I am by no means a lone voice in this regard.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely
41 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:25:20
This man is unbelievable. He's an embarrassment to our proud football club...
Moshiri and Co should do the right thing and sack him immediately before it gets REAL ugly!!
Allardyce OUT NOW!!!
42 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:28:13
And to talk about “consistency and qualityâ€!? Well, Everton have been consistent – consistently boring, pedestrian and predictable. And if he means the quality has been low, then I would agree. The guy is totally delusional and has to go.
43 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:30:32
There maybe clauses we don't know of that gives Mr Moshiri some room for manoeuvre.
If Sam says anything less than he is planning for next season, it may be construed that he is ready to walk. So don't read too much into that.
In reality, he will be gone with a ٢M contract settlement. Money well spent.
44 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:37:51
45 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:44:21
We need to make our feelings known in the last home game as well. We are simply too loyal! and too quiet. I'm fucking sick of the media saying we should be grateful.
46 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:44:45
47 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:44:48
49 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:44:57
To paraphrase a very well know saying.
All that is required for mediocrity to triumph is for Evertonians to do nothing!
50 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:46:14
51 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:50:28
52 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:50:50
1) He'll sign too many players the wrong side of 28 and leave us in a mess when he departs.
2) His continuing presence will lead to even more apathy from supporters than there already is.
If it were up to me I'd pay whatever is necessary to get him out of here and install a young, up and coming manager and coaching staff to give us all some hope.
I'd take Danny Cowley from Lincoln City right now, regardless of inexperience. I'm confident he'd do a better job in the long run than Sam.
53 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:51:36
I've since sent another one to Ryazantsev.
54 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:54:41
I recently renewed my season ticket in the mistaken belief that Sam Allardyce and acolytes would by now have left our club.
From the press conference this morning, unless the Ego is making it up again, it looks like he might be besmirching our club next season. Whilst I appreciate you yourself appear to be heading back to Rugby League, would it be possible to let Mr Moshiri know exactly what the MAJORITY of Evertonians, both match going and via social media think about THE GROSS CHARLATAN BEING ANYWHERE NEAR OUR CLUB, LET ALONE MANAGING IT.
If Everton are not to become the next Aston Villa, Leeds, Sunderland, and Portsmouth etc, who at one time had an apparent ‘sugar daddy' take over the club, only to preside over it's demise, we need to get things on the pitch right as an absolute priority. This in turn would balance the excellent work done by EITC, and the off field teams. This means dumping this stain on our club and moving on with both a plan, and it being executed properly on a timely basis.
Sorry to burden you with this, but previous missives to Bill have gone unanswered, and I do feel the truth about the depth of feeling towards Allardyce needs to be brought to Mr Moshiris attention.
Good luck with your future employ.
Best regards,
Keith Harrison
Park End Season Ticket Holder
55 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:56:10
56 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:56:28
57 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:57:23
Get the message out – 78th-minute walk out. Warn The Winslow we'll be back in early, Rob.
58 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:57:37
59 Posted 27/04/2018 at 16:58:53
As if Southampton would bring 2,000 fans. 😂😂😂
60 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:01:25
Dear Bill,
I am very worried by the news that Mr Allardyce is planning for next season...
"Don't you worry yourself, my partner Mr Moshiri will do what is right for the club. In all my years I have never come across anyone with the enthusiasm of him"
But Bill, I thought you would be in charge of that as the chairman?
"I know nothing of the day to day running of this club son. But I tell you what you will never find a better representative of a football club. I've never took a nicker out of this club you know."
But Bill, I thought you made tens of millions on your shares?
"That's different, son. I mortgaged my house to buy this club."
Will you be putting any of that money back into the club you love Bill?
"Pardon? Did I ever tell you about Dave Hickson, son? Me and him used to get on me Uncle Cyril's handles bars to get to the match you know. I used to stand on the terraces and the piss used to wet my feet through the holes in my shoes. Great days"
But Bill, you were brought up in a middle-class household. How come you had holes in your shoes?
"Everyone had them son, those were the days."
Ahhh, great stuff Bill.
Good luck when you email our beloved chairman.
61 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:02:03
We need to do a Liverpool and get the flags out and really voice our opinions at the match. Across the Park, no matter how we feel they get their message across. Plus the media on their side. Quite the opposite with us... Talk Shit backing Allardyce, our board apologising to Sam. No wonder the board don't care what we think when they see Steven Jones spouting off about negatives. Try this Negative... Big Fat Sam out ASAP!!
62 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:06:55
You and the travelling hordes need to give him dogs abuse tomorrow at Huddersfield. If 100% of the travelling support start on him, there should be no doubt at all of our feelings. Except the 7%.
63 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:10:35
Problem is, I just don't think I would be able to stick with it, and this is why this all pisses me off so much!
64 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:10:45
It should be:
bill.kenwright@evertonfc.com
Inundate him, Robert Elstone and Sasha anyway. And try emailing the Echo, and any newspaper you can think of. The papers might run with it (excepting The Sun of course) if they think it will sell a few.
78 minute walkout!!
65 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:13:02
66 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:13:49
And the protests need to start before the match and a mass walkout on 78 mins is a great idea, let's get the message out.
67 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:15:26
68 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:16:59
There is something rotten at Goodison - I can smell it from here and it appears to emanate from the very top of the hierarchy
of which you are involved.
I am an Evertonian of almost 60 years standing and a Season Ticket holder too boot!
I, among thousands of other faithfully fans have suffered at the hands of a succession of managers, poor boardroom decisions
and latterly an over abundance of financial clout resulting in a complete disaster on and off the field.
A few days ago I had the pleasure of completing a survey asking for my honest opinion of the Everton Football Club that I love,
I completed that survey as honestly as I could. In it I stated that Mr Allardyce and his entourage should be shown the door and that
in the best interests of the club both you and Mr Kenwright, for whom I have, hitherto, felt a certain loyalty should also seriously
consider your futures at the club. Please understand this is not about personalities all of whom believe they are acting in the club's best
interest - but it is now time for a complete top to bottom shake out if the club is ever to regain some of its former glory. I believe that
all those involved, apart from Mr Moshiri, have had ample time to bring about an EFC all the fans are tearing their hair out for.
Please believe, I am not in the habit of writing to the club but I, like many others feel that these next few weeks are vitally important so
that the right decisions are made to take Everton forward. I have already bought my Season Ticket for next season, an act of faith that
Everton's Board get the message that I and (9 or so malcontents which Mr Allardyce refers to) and many other fans will be listened to.!
I rest my case, but unless there is a radical change at Everton in the next three months I regrettably will look to terminate my allegiance
to this club.
Rob B.
69 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:18:47
70 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:18:54
It will be better if they are all the same, could even fly some paper aeroplanes into the Directors Box.
71 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:19:16
72 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:20:48
73 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:22:06
Where will it ever end?
:-(
74 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:24:22
Allardyce out now!!
75 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:24:56
A mass walkout would send a clear signal. A signal that they have undoubtedly missed due to the season ticket renewals lulling them into a false sense of security.
76 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:30:24
78 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:32:35
79 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:33:18
80 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:34:18
81 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:34:23
82 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:35:08
We are so in need of a bright young manager who will look forward for the good of the club that we surely can't contemplate another season with this man whose arrogance is distasteful. He has a lot of friends in the media and also in ex-players who are supporting him but they really don't have a clue.
The paying customer has to have a big say here as we can see through the crap and can judge him on performance only. Surely he is on his way?
83 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:36:07
Years since this club of ours, that gets unequivocal support, won a trophy.
84 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:37:41
Empty seats at Arsenal forced Kroenke's hand. It is a clear visible sign of discontent by the fans, it cannot go unnoticed. Arsenal fans don't want mediocrity, why should any Everton fan accept it?
I have a feeling that his termination may be made public before that game though, for the sake of harmony and good relations with the fans. I don't think that Mr Moshiri will want to be seen as weak behaving as a reaction to protest.
Time will tell but I think next week it will be announced.
85 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:41:02
86 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:46:51
87 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:47:49
88 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:55:03
89 Posted 27/04/2018 at 17:56:10
90 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:04:59
91 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:05:06
92 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:05:06
As for walkouts, don't choose 23 minutes for God's sake – this arsehole would claim we were having a go at Seamus!
93 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:07:15
94 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:08:16
Emailing the club is a great idea and I've just sent it. The walkout on 78 mins is also an excellent plan; it is great to see Evertonians standing up for themselves!
95 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:16:15
If you want a leaflet simply detailing a planned move on 18 minutes, then a walkout on 78, please just post:
I'd like a leaflet.
I will get to it asap, but bear in mind I'm supposed to be painting the back wall tonight!
96 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:17:19
97 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:24:34
There is little new money available to embark on another round of expensive imports, the manager has shown he is good enough to deliver results with a squad which remains totally unbalanced and he has a year left on his contract. Dismissing him now will cost money. Moreover there is no guarantee that an incoming manager starting from scratch would deliver better results or the flowing style of football which very few, if any, teams outside the top six are capable of.
Revamping the squad will require much wheeling and dealing. Allardyce is in a better position to do that than someone coming into the club with little knowledge of the players he would inherit.
98 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:31:47
99 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:31:54
Our club is a laughing stock. No doubt Pardew is looking forward to getting the job after Fat Sam.
I've never been so bored with an Everton team.
100 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:32:12
101 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:32:33
Doesn't he supposedly interact with fans on the train when he's attending matches? Surely they must be bending his ear about Allardyce...
The man is a fucking simpleton. Yes, he might be a great businessman, blah, blah, blah... But he knows Jack Shit about football or our club.
By the way, great post from John G Davies (#79). Tickled me, that... Right, where did I put that Remy Martin?
102 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:33:39
Good idea but maybe better saved for the Southampton game. If it's half-arsed, it will just be embarrassing.
103 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:34:59
The smaller squad wanted by Allardyce will be at the expense of our promising younger players and the three or four experienced automatic first team players he says he will bring in will be signed to avoid relegation and at best achieve mid-table mediocrity (see Swansea Ki thread).
If this news is confirmed supporters will, no doubt, be provided with an artists impression of what the new stadium will look like as a demonstration of progress – just like King's Dock .
The club I've supported for over 50 years is slowly but surely having the life throttled out of it by the incompetents in charge.
104 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:37:50
105 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:38:02
106 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:39:25
107 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:43:58
All we have to go on are Allardyce's words which are all doublespeak. I don't believe he will remain on beyond the end of this season.
He did what he was paid to do. He can't move the team forward and his brand of football will sap any vestige of creativity and entertainment out of the players.
108 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:47:50
109 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:48:11
Anyway, the prospect of another season of Allardyce is too depressing to contemplate. Forget the dreary football – the buffoon will wreak utter havoc on the squad. Forget Vlasic or Klassen ever getting a chance. Dowell and Onyekuru might as well not even bother showing up for preseason. And you just know the moron will try and sell Lookman purely out of spite.
110 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:52:00
I believe that this will put the club back five years and that this move will jeopardise the construction of the new ground as supporters will leave in droves if the same type of football is served up next season.
The only way to get rid of this manager is for fans to boycott the next home game, it's no good next season it will then be too late.
There were lots of empty seats at Arsenal and, all of a sudden, they are changing their manager. We need action now.
111 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:53:57
As with everything else, I'll wait for an announcement.
112 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:56:04
It is the 78th minute of the Southampton game that the walkout is planned for.
113 Posted 27/04/2018 at 18:56:38
Trevor, (#104) my name is spelt ei, not ie. Or hadn't you noticed?
114 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:02:00
Nothing... nada... no protests, no walkouts on 18, 23 or 78 minutes. just the usual apathy, me included.
The only sign of any disgruntled supporters will be the empty seats as they do their walk of shame – sorry, appreciation.
Believe me, ToffeeWeb is a minority opinion as far as the match-going crowd goes... I just wish it wasn't!
115 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:03:00
116 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:04:27
117 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:08:12
Tim Cahill summed it up perfectly the other week. We were crap before Allardyce showed up. Don't be fooled into thinking a new manager will turn things around.
Relegation would have given Everton a good reality check. The future is bleak.
118 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:13:04
Get those banners and placards ready for the Southampton game. ALLARDYCE OUT!
119 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:13:31
Welcome Home.
Sorry, couldn't resist that lads.
120 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:14:35
Take it easy. As long as you believe, all is well.
121 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:16:12
He will be gone – he just has to. Otherwise, we will be settling ourselves into the mid-table / bottom-half quite comfortably until the rank boredom finally finishes us off.
122 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:18:18
Nice one, Brian!
123 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:18:32
Eagles?
124 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:19:21
You put a spell on me.
125 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:20:51
126 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:22:56
Isn't he the real problem? All the hatred towards Fat Sam is sadly misplaced – we hardly know the guy.
127 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:24:16
128 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:24:24
129 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:24:28
130 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:26:45
131 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:29:18
132 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:31:52
You had a guy that was pro attacking football. Pro going toe to toe with all opponents. Pro taking risks. You hounded him out.
Cant have it both ways.
133 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:32:48
134 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:36:01
I had arranged to go to the Newcastle game but cancelled because, although I lost money, I didn't care enough to waste anymore.
It is a pretty meaningless gesture and I can see how it will not make me a real Evertonian, but if Allardyce is our our manager next season, I am done with the club. I will find something better to do than fretting over a club who have no shame over appointing a liar, a parasite and a talentless, envious, self serving fraudster as our manager.
We are devoid of integrity if he and the bunch of useless scroungers who work for him are allowed to stay.
135 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:38:13
136 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:38:49
Moshiri OUT !
138 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:46:32
My 1st game at Goodison was in October 1961, I have been a loyal supporter ever since through some very dark times. There was always some hope and passion even from some very poor managers.
This season has however been dreadful, the worst in my 56 + years of support. I now live some 100 miles from Goodison so no longer have a season ticket but I am a member and have attended 75% of home games - until our current manager's appointment. I vowed that I would not attend a game whilst he was manager.
I still watch every game online and now have a complete apathy! Please pass my concerns to Mr Moshiri and say that he has to rescue our club from the depths to which it had fallen.
I always used to say with pride that I was an Evertonian, sadly this is no longer the case.
139 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:48:07
If I publicly criticised my staff, but took all the glory for their good work, I wouldn't last long at work. Nor would I expect to.
As regards our demise, a contribution of Heysel and the Robert Maxwell ruling consigned us to where we are now.
140 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:52:38
I fear another season of this however I also fear another poor appointment and more money wasted may make use even worse!!
141 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:53:57
142 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:54:31
To be replaced by... who?
143 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:55:12
I expect to be entertained to any degree at the moment and don't want to pay for the privilege of being angered, feel disrespected and unconsidered by my club. It has nothing to do with my loyalty to Everton, just with having had enough in the face of incompetence.
Don't post on here often, feel as though I'm electively losing an arm.
Email sent sorry for the rant.
144 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:56:38
😎🤣🤣
145 Posted 27/04/2018 at 19:57:17
Thought you were describing Martinez, his two last seasons in charge are when I decided to find something better to do.
146 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:10:45
Fuck this. I'm done.
147 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:11:07
This is just a cockfight now, media manipulation... Allardyce seems to have won the fight for now, but not hard as the club always stay quiet and he has the anti-EFC media backing him. Shame he's no good when it comes to winning games.
This really feels like a pivotal moment no how the Hammers fan felt now.
148 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:15:37
149 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:17:22
This time last year we were dreaming of champions league. Now I'm dreaming (Nightmare) of the Championship. That's were Allardyce will take us
150 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:21:13
Yes, yes, we were chosen, I know. It often is a fine feeling. But when you see that grabbing c**t with our motto on his shirt do you not wish, just now and again, that we were chosen to spend our Saturdays spotting trains.
He is not fit to contaminate our club .ALLARDYCE OUT
151 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:21:24
152 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:23:48
If it is true, that will be the end for me and I thanked him and the board for bringing our club into disrepute.
153 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:26:36
I agree with the walkout that Keith Harrison ( no relation) suggested, but before we walk out we must protest long and loud throughout the game. The result is meaningless to us, I know many havent wanted to protest when we were still chasing points to keep us in the Premiership, but now thats secure getting Allardyce out of our club is paramount.
154 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:26:36
155 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:29:26
This would go all around the world of football, in no time, and will be the only time anyone who has watched Everton live on the Telly this season, will actually have something to talk about!
156 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:34:00
Dear Bill
I will be 60 this year and have supported the Blues since my dad made me a wooden stool to see over the paddock wall and watch Alan Ball, Brian Labone and all grace our pitch.
Today I read Sam Allardyce describing the “great start to his REIGN†and claiming we have played some “extremely entertaining football†since he arrived.
Bill, you have seen all the games as have I and you and I both know that this is the worst and most turgid style of football we have played in those 50 odd years I've been a Blue. I'm too embarrassed now to defend my great club to the fans of ANY other team and I'm counting the days to the end of what I thought was going to be a great season but instead ended up a great pile of dog mess. Bill, please act as the devoted Blue I know you are and send Sam Allardyce on his way.
Born not manufactured Bill - NSNO!
Many regards and thanks for all you have done - now do something more!!
Mark Murphy
A Blue
157 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:37:56
However, I don't go every week so I have no right to tell the folk who do that they should take banners etc.
I fear that Moshiri is, when it comes to football, a cretin. Kenwright is contemptable, Elstone is woeful and we have the second worst coach in our history supported by a team of money grabbing thieves who, in any other industry, would be fucked off to oblivion without a penny to their name.
158 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:39:14
The French ALWAYS get there result whenever they protest.
Sprit of "were not FUCKING having it" is alive and well in the blue collar workers and the youth.
We could do worse than follow their lead.
159 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:40:18
160 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:40:20
And I am starting to think that Moshiri needs to sell up too and go.
Truly embarrassing.
161 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:41:48
I normally stay until after the final whistle at Goodison, but I support the idea of a walkout on 78 minutes. To be honest, I could not stomach staying for the customary lap of appreciation.
Dear Mr Ryazantsev,
I am a season ticket holder and watched my first game at Goodison in 1969.
Having been brought up on lessons from the School of Science, now I see that the present Board seems to be content with old school. Everton FC must surely be looking to the future, in every respect. Why the Board wants a money-grubbing football dinosaur, like Sam Allardyce, around is truly baffling.
The recent survey, sent to the club's Fans Forum members was a refreshing attempt to gather views from the fans on a variety of subjects. What plans does the Board have to publish the results? You and Mr Moshiri may or may not agree with the fans' views, but if the club sanctioned the survey, the least it could do would be to come clean with the findings.
I am copying this to Messrs Kenwright, Elstone and Kenyon. I trust you will make these views, and the views of other fans, known to Mr Moshiri.
Best regards
Steve Dickinson
162 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:43:38
Which criticisms of players? When he says he doesn't tell them to give the ball back to the opposition do you mean? I've heard Moyes say things both this season and last to the effect that the players need to take responsibility. That they need to get things right like heading the ball away, etc. To me, it seems perfectly reasonable.
It's strange that when you get a guy who either because that's how he is, or, because he's been trained in a manner of expressing himself, says things in a particular way. He get's slagged off for being a 'fake c**t'. Yet, when someone just says what they think he gets the same treatment. There's no logic there. It's just a case of people wanting to criticise something, anything, for the sake of it.
163 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:51:11
164 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:52:13
165 Posted 27/04/2018 at 20:52:20
BS put in his biography that he led West Ham fans to believe he was staying on as manager when he already knew he was leaving, much to his own amusement knowing it would wind them up. In which case mission accomplished in pissing off a large proportion of Everton supporters today.
I think people are taking this too literally.The guy has a ego bigger than Wigan Pier. There's no way he would have said he was leaving.
166 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:00:04
As someone said to me on the coach returning from Swansea, Allardyce will probably be blamed for the rise in burglaries.
A theme in many posts is that young players will not feature under Sam. Yet when he has played Davies and Calvert-Lewin as he has done in recent weeks some fans complain they are not up to it. Vlasic, Holgate, Lookman and Baningime have all featured this season in teams hammered out of sight. As is not uncommon players' reputations tend to be enhanced when they are not in the team.
We also read that the old guard of 'hangers on', referring to staff with Everton connections, should be jettisoned forthwith. Yet Allardyce has brought in people respected in the professional game with no former connection to our club. They too must be jettisoned. Now there are one or two suggesting Moshiri should go! Good luck Mr Brands!
167 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:01:51
168 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:05:27
My take:
If he'd been told, "You have the next season, then we'll see after that", he'd have held that press conference thru a bullhorn.
So, I'm sticking with, he's gone.
Regarding his talk on happenings when the window opens or the comings and goings of players, I can accept he'd be part of what's-most-needed discussions.
He is, after all, the employee whose job it is to manage the squad day in and out. Why wouldn't his opinion be asked? He's there.
I want someone new as much as anyone. Didn't see a thing in his presser indicating he'd been told he's staying. Especially, no bullhorn.
169 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:05:39
170 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:14:14
171 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:14:15
Thanks, Martin #27.
Allardyce out.
172 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:37:26
Not sure I can pin that on him though tbh.
Steve Sturm gives his regards by the way.
173 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:39:42
Dear sir,
I would like bring to your attention a planned protest by Everton fans at the final home game against Southampton.
This protest, which is being organised by the Everton fans website ToffeeWeb, is planned due to the unrest amongst fans towards the manager Sam Allardyce.
Quite simply, the majority of fans have no faith whatsoever in Allardyce being in charge of our club beyond this season.
The protest is twofold, based around the year of our formation, 1878. On the 18th minute of the match, the plan is to stand and then turn our backs on the play for one minute. Then on the 78th minute, fans are being asked to leave their seat and walkout of the stadium, or alternatively, watch the remainder of the game on the TV's down on the concourse.
I am bringing this to your attention, as the leading newspaper in the Merseyside area, and hope it can perhaps be mentioned in your sports section covering Everton Football Club, on your official website, as we need this brought to the attention of as many people as possible.
I would be grateful if you do include this on your website page on Everton Football Club if you would not disclose my name or email address.
Yours faithfully
175 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:42:08
176 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:44:12
177 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:47:22
In total support of this
Get the banners out too flying over Goodison - Sam . WE DO NOT WANT YOU !!!!
178 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:48:06
Unless Lyndon and Micheal orchestrate it, it would be unfair on them to 'blame' them for the protest, and sour any relationship with the club.
It might be an idea if they agree though to start a thread on here and using their media contacts to spread the word. Assuming they agree with the sentiment of course.
Get it sent mate.
179 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:52:49
180 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:57:36
The red echo will spin it to make us look like c**ts.
By the way.
Go on to the search engine Bing, put Liverpool Echo in and see what comes up.
181 Posted 27/04/2018 at 21:59:29
If you email and they publish, and nothing comes of it (how many ToffeeWebbers ARE there?) then as I say we'll be a laughing stock and the RS will have an absolute field day and live off it for years.
Really no need to give the Echo the heads up IMO.
182 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:00:55
183 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:02:13
184 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:02:54
185 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:11:12
Who cares what the Echo thinks, if it gets us exposure, the more that know, the more will follow suit and carry it out.
We are already a laughing stock with Sam in charge, action needs to be carried out on the Southampton game, if Sam is still here.
Still gobsmacked my suggestion of turning our backs in the 18th. Minute and chanting stand up if you want Sam gone has got the thumbs up from fellow posters, my suggestions normally goes tits up, but I thought the 18 went well with the previous 78 suggestion and makes two statements with our 1878 having a point.
We need to carry this out if Sam is in charge of the Southampton game, stand together on this fellow Evertonians.
186 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:13:57
187 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:17:46
That way the site is just reflecting opinion on the matter.
188 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:18:51
189 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:20:32
190 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:24:57
191 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:25:45
192 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:26:11
193 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:28:28
194 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:29:16
I might be being slightly hysterical but I don't trust this Moshiri fella and his chairman. Forget the stadium, forget the Hollywood manager, forget the sexy football. Fat Sam is our future. Aaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhh
195 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:32:53
196 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:38:05
ALLARDYCE OUT.
198 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:48:41
199 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:48:51
Please (insert players name) can I have your shirt.
Ours could be simple...something like
"EVERTON FANS SAY WE WANT ALLARDYCE OUT"
5000 of these at a cost of £80+ would be ideal.
200 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:49:02
For the leaflets I would simply go with SAM OUT in all caps, largest possible for the size of the sheet, and have everybody hold them up at the 18th minute, facing the crowd... and the TV cameras.
201 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:50:28
202 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:50:57
203 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:52:15
204 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:52:51
205 Posted 27/04/2018 at 22:53:00
Brian's suggestion is a good one too... smuggle some in under your jacket and pass them around.
206 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:00:35
207 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:02:05
Dear Mr Elstone
It is with a heavy heart I write this email. I never thought I would have such strong dislike for an Everton manager and such passionate feelings that he must go.
I admit that I never thought that someone with such a tarnished moral character should ever have been allowed to manage our great club, but his anti-football approach to the game rubs salt into the wound.
The point at which any chance redemption was passed was when, after only having had a couple of shots on target over a few games, and on the back of a hiding, his stated solution was that we needed to be 'more boring'. That any manager of the School of Science would draw such a conclusion was shameful.
The man takes credit for victories (his own or those of others) and blames the players for defeats. This is not the sign of a true leader.
If his statement that he will remain manager next season is true, I will not be attending the old lady. He is a poor ambassador for the club, and whilst our manager to season ratio would embarrassing and damaging, it far out ways the prospect of him remaining.
Yours sincerely
Jon Ferguson
208 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:03:21
209 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:04:44
210 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:06:05
He, like Moshiri believes he is doing a good job finishing 8th. or 9th. after playing like relegation fodder when he came in.
Sadly they have continued to play that way and only the other poor teams below them have kept them in a respectable position.
The miracle is how we didn't get creamed by RS on two occasions.
We all fear that fear that the team will continue to play poorly probably for the first few months of next season when Moshiri will finally wake up and get shut of him.
However, at that point much like this season there will be no class managers available to replace him and so the misery will continue.
It's the season ticket holders I really feel sorry for.
211 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:20:30
212 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:20:35
If the survey ( Did ) have a high negative marking from the same survey that wanted S.A. out. then once again the upper management are not interested in the fans opinion.
This is another snub to the supporters whose money has been keeping this club afloat from day 1,and they wonder why the fans are upset.
213 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:25:37
214 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:25:39
215 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:34:17
In the first game Salah committed two fouls before he shot.
It was about organisation and belief in what you've been sent out to do.
If you want to take that as a milestone the RS have subsequently shat all over City, twice, and Roma.
Anyone who doesn't think that sealing our defence wasn't a priority is definitely a Lewis Carroll fan. Anyone who doesn't recognise that this needed to be done needs to soak their heads and consider buying a ticket for Disneyland. They'll see the Fantasyland they crave.
216 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:43:01
Got this feeling he will be there next season. I think I will definitely give the transfer window a miss and next season if he is still in charge.
217 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:44:12
In all probability Marco Silva will be appointed next and we will all hope that he can be the catalyst for change and produce a team that will make us proud again.
Don't forget to protest, the boardroom needs to understand that while we can never end our love for this club we will not tolerate feeble mindedness, mediocrity or dereliction of duty and we will hold them accountable.
COYB.
218 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:54:00
What do you want another Koeman? and another Martinez .?
another Sunderland ?
Another Aston villa?
The list goes on .
We need continuity and steady improvement .
Even if we could get a Fonseca . it guarantees nothing .
Please stop destroying our club because as night follows day this kind of madness will spiral our club to the Championship .
219 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:55:34
From the perspective of the owner. He arrived and cleared the debt. Spent a couple of hundred million on players and is planning for a new stadium. Staying in the league is crucial to his plans. West ham stayed with sam because he does that, keeps teams in the premiership. The dilemma is there to see for the owner. Championship football is not an option with our wage bill and stadium plan we have.
If sam goes. Let's go with a young manager who will play youngsters because spending £200 million is not going to happen for a while. Perhaps the owner is sticking with sam, as staying in the league is the number one priority while the stadium plans become reality.
220 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:56:46
221 Posted 27/04/2018 at 23:58:52
It is true that Sam addressed the defensive side of the team in his first half a dozen games taking 12 points from 18. Since then he has taken 18 points from 45 including the hammering by Arsenal. the hammering by Spurs and although the scoreline doesn't suggest it the hammering by Man City.
So if Everton are on 30 points from the first 21 games next season will that be good enough? Remember he has had Baines and Coleman return to the team and added Walcott and Tosun yet in reality we have seen no real improvement.
Apart from the results the football on show isn't easy on the eye and I don't know why there is any question about why we should retain Sam, he is not going to change, he has said so today, he believes that his way is the only way to eek out points, but we don't have to put up with it do we?
222 Posted 27/04/2018 at 00:06:16
He refers to recent events on the field and for tomorrow as we, we, we, but then in talking about next season says “That means Everton are now ready to move forward and try to achieve more in the Premier League next season.â€
Is it likely that Moshiri has achieved what he has in business with no inkling of the importance of Brand and the damage that is being done to the Everton Brand ?
Nil Desperandum !
224 Posted 28/04/2018 at 00:30:05
Until Baine's return we played with no, nil, zero, fuck all left-sided players because we had none. Try selling that to favoured new managers whose name ends in a vowel.
225 Posted 28/04/2018 at 00:32:22
226 Posted 28/04/2018 at 01:17:29
Except when it's spelled AllardyceOutOfOurClub.
227 Posted 28/04/2018 at 01:50:46
228 Posted 28/04/2018 at 04:17:07
229 Posted 28/04/2018 at 05:05:23
No good taking a punt like his two predecessers. Look what happens when you gamble on a player - poor turn out usually. Same with a manager, only there aint 10 others to pick up the slack.
This is a massive decision and must be done with consideration & diligence; nobody knows what Moshiri has said, he hasn't backed him after Sam publicly requested such, that speaks volumes, so no need for the frenzy on here the last 3 games will be turgid amd he will seal the ineviatable.
I do understand the frustrations mind.
230 Posted 28/04/2018 at 05:05:36
ALLARDYCE OUT
232 Posted 28/04/2018 at 07:51:31
233 Posted 28/04/2018 at 07:56:10
234 Posted 28/04/2018 at 07:57:35
235 Posted 28/04/2018 at 08:11:14
Carpe Diem fellas.
FFS GET FS OUT!
236 Posted 28/04/2018 at 09:16:22
SPORTPESA
ANGRY BIRDS
UMBRO
USM
FANATICS
WILLIAM HILL
etc etc
These are the guys that pay the millions and can have a voice if they feel that they are paying for a brand of football that the Everton masses aren't happy with. Brands want to be associated with a winning brand, not turmoil, as this looks bad on their brand.
237 Posted 28/04/2018 at 11:30:16
Sam is being quite calculating here. He is saying things designed to keep him in his job. His primary aim was to keep us up and he is extolling his 'achievement' rather than repeating his line that he 'deserves a chance at a bigger club'. He's doing his best, doing all he knows. Good enough to get us to 8th/9th, which many would have settled for a few months ago.
For me, it's the evidence that he'll take us further and entertain us. I can't see any and neither, I suspect, does Moshiri. His silence tells me he's shopping around.
238 Posted 01/05/2018 at 17:10:09
Depressed supporters
Manchester City fans are revelling in Premier League title glory, Wolves supporters are relishing a return to the top flight and the Accrington Stanley faithful are in raptures after watching their team secure a place in the third tier for the first time.
Following these clubs is an absolute joy at the minute, so perhaps their supporters should spare a thought for the fans whose teams have brought them nothing but misery this season…
10. Everton
Everton fans are well aware that they haven't snagged silverware in more than two decades. So, when Iranian businessman Farhad Moshiri purchased a majority stake in the club in 2016, nobody could blame them for feeling a collective pang of optimism. Finally, the blue half of Merseyside was equipped with the resources to compete with big-spending neighbours Liverpool.
Fast-forward two years and it's all gone horribly wrong. Ronald Koeman paid the price for poor recruitment with his sacking in October 2017, a team largely comprised of failed signings is chasing shadows across the Goodison pitch, and a weather-beaten Sam Allardyce sits on the throne of an empire in turmoil.
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1 Posted 27/04/2018 at 14:38:12