Allardyce: We've captured hearts and minds

If ever there was a statement of a lack of intent this is it. Are we sleep walking?

So we need to sign players to finish 8th? Shouldn't you be going on about being 6th since you took over and pushing for top 6?

If ever people wanted to know why Evertonians hate him, then watch this video.

#walkouton78

#walkouton78

For the first time I have lost it - my blood has boiled over and I wanted to kick my computer in one hit to the bottom of the garden having read this article and this presser.

I am going to hit the gin and pretend just for one glorious drunken evening that this guy never happened at our club.

The following was drafted by another ToffeeWeb contributor, and was sent to various contributors via e-mail. Please note that the editors, Lyndon and Michael are no way involved in the organisation behind this planned protest, or the drafting of this article:
Planned protest v Southampton by dissatisfied Everton supporters.

To all those unhappy with the way our club is being run from top to bottom, the awful football we have endured for a number of years, culminating in the dross since November 2017, a peaceful protest is planned for the last home game of the season. This hopefully will signal to Mr Moshiri that Evertonians won't robotically accept the dross served up, have no wish to celebrate the worst season of football in years, and do look to him to provide a tangible leadership of our club going forward.

This summer will probably be the most pivotal in our history to date regarding Bramley Moore, the DOF and management structure and if Mr Moshiri gets it wrong, Everton Football Club may never be a force in English football again. If you are happy with how the club is run presently, do nothing – like we have for years. If you believe in making a statement in a non-threatening way (no expletives at Allardyce etc please), please join in.

We propose that on:-
18 minutes – supporters turn their backs to the pitch for a period of 1 minute.
78 minutes – supporters leave their seats, and either gather on the concourse for the rest of the game, or leave the ground.
Hopefully the ‘lap of honour' to an at least partially empty stadium, and with TV coverage will signal our unhappiness with the owners, management and players, and to those in the media who believe we should be grovelingly grateful for what we have

Allardyce out now!!

Please let this nightmare end. It's just soul destroying for us all, well there are a few Evertonians who love finishing seventh or eighth and watching utter shite every week as they come on here backing this t**t, whilst taking the piss out of us and having more digs at us today.

It will be interesting reading posts over the next few days on this thread on why he should be here next season after saying let's maintain them said positions? He also said again in today's press-conference that the minority only wanted him gone, with a little smirk, but we have a loud voice in the game? Hmm, a minority eh Sam? Let's hope we show him tomorrow that we're not in the minority by singing loud and clear for the board to hear. And those pundits, journalists and ex-players who think we should be thankful to have this dinosaur at our club.

But I won't hold my breath because we haven't done fuck-all else over the years as our once great club has just disintegrated in front of our eyes as most of us have just sat on are arses doing nothing over the last 23 years! Don't you think we need to change? As I want to enjoy and looking forward to going the match, something I haven't been able to do for a while Let's hope the feeling is strong enough tomorrow evening to change this laughable statement of "it's not the Everton way" and put that to bed once and for all, to chase this fraud out of our club.

He has a solid argument to say that results have been decent but to claim ‘we've captured hearts by the way we've beaten teams' is clearly laughable.

And to set eighth as the target for next season?!

Looks to me like he's courting the sack and that big payout. Or he's totally delusional. Or both.

Totally delusional.

Gotta hand it to Sam. He knows who to play to, unlike Unsy with his 'great privilege to manage this great club' shtick. That's the old pro in Sam, sell it to Moshiri not Kenwright.

Let's hope Moshiri still wants his project. If he does, we'll have a new manager in 2 weeks, when he's persuaded Fonseca or picked up Silva the moment he's a free agent.

I think protests of some sort are inevitable, if only to get to Moshiri, on how ' Sam's Minority ' feel about him. A few banners wouldn't go amiss either, after all said and done, this is the last chance to demonstrate how the majority of Evertonians feel about him.

Otherwise, the unthinkable prospect of him being in charge for another season, will become a reality.

Worryingly too, that he has compiled a list of potential transfers for next season, surely the Board would not agree to any of it, if he were to be replaced.

Day by day it beggars belief that this idiot finds himself in charge of our great club.

I think he could well be nominated for a Bafta with that performance today, shame his facial expression didnt seem to show that of a man who has been given a stay of execution.

Rob (12), I think that it a good way of showing our feelings - I am with and will be at the game. How widely circulated has the plan been distributed?

I know he's got thick skin, but only a fucking lunatic, would be able to come out with such unadulterated shite, when everyone knows how draining it is, watching his team play football every week.

We shall wait and see.

I believe he will be gone, but I do have this nagging feeling, what if he doesn't? Can you imagine this stain on our club being applauded around our ground tomorrow like he is this great manager he himself thinks he is. It sickens me to my stomach and doesn't look good for our future if he does?

Give him another year? I think that might see a record fall in Season ticket renewals for 2019/20, but you pays your money you makes your choice.

The contempt and acceptance of mediocrity and living on mainly very old history is not a way out.

FM needs to decide soon which way he's going and who's being retained, and what the plan is..

It's the worst era in the last 50 years and All fans on TW and every where, know the score of where we are now. We've done enough contemplation between us all to last a 1000 years.

It's scary but many of us won't see the club win in style again let alone win a trophy.

I can't wait for the season to end and next Sunday night, hopefully there may be some genuine hope on the horizon for EFC.

NB Thinking of a win double on us to win the next 2 games plus the Madrid clubs, in the Europa & Champions League, but does any one think I'm on a loser there?

He could see the wood through the trees with Moyes was enthralled at the beginning with Martinez and loved the songs, full of optimism with Koeman but let down with durge and nearly being killed off Everton for good with Allardyce.

ST sorted for next season but we will be out on 78.

I shall be leaving on 78minutes tomorrow, let's hope many more do the same

Two things swing it for me: firstly, as has been widely reported, we'd be sixth now if we only counted games since Allardyce took charge. That's not great, but it's not too shabby considering the demoralised, horribly imbalanced squad that he took charge of.

Secondly, he's only had one transfer window - a January one at that - but he definitely improved that squad. I don't think that many people argue that Walcott's not an upgrade on Lennon and, whilst Tosun's no Lukaku, he's better than what we had. We'll never know how Mangala would have worked out but it's pretty clear that Sam knew that centre back was an area that needed to be addressed.

I'm not enamoured by Sam's style of play (to date) or his over-inflated sense of self worth but I'm not sure that I can say he's done a bad job so far. All things considered, I think that he's deserved a stay of execution.

Immense performance today against ManU as Brighton win to stay up.

Many times I have read about you having another gin and have thought, I'll have another drink too. So, it's your fault. Everton does it to you, Ian. I reckon if I didn't support this club I'd be a lean, marathon running, skinny sort of bloke with a goatee.

Allardyce openly stated in the presser today that the plan for next season was to maintain our present position. No mention of improving on it or moving forward, merely to maintain eigth.

If you believe he deserves to stay then you are, by backing him, happy with that.

The real question is if not Allardyce, then who? There are better managers out there for sure, but which one of them would realistically want to attach themselves to what is currently a basket-case of a club?

Edit: No Brian, those are your prejudices and preconceptions talking, not me, not Peter & not Ian.

Please don't tell me he'll be in-charge next season, I couldn't cope with it, I'm losing the plot.

Also, you mention his style of play (to date) like he's only played lime that THIS season.

For (to date) you should substitute it with (throughout his long managerial career).

If you think after the shite football we've watched (you have watched haven't you?) all season that he deserves a "stay of execution" then you're very very easily pleased.

Oh....and you deserve him!

I don't know who make a good manager but as long as that person shows true ambition and fully embraces Everton, they will have my full support.

Edit: Neil, I basically agree, but sometimes you need to consolidate and take stock of the situation. I might very well be wrong, but I think that this might be one of those situations.

Deep joy.

Aah, I have no pride, or any knowledge about EFC's glorious achievements against better placed teams this season! There was a time we had two fingers to offer them...

I apologize!

He's gone, but you got to give it to him. He flat doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Making millions along the way, no less.

Glad you're gone, Sam. But my cap's doffed. ^ million more, at your age, for just standing there watching.

As an Evertonian, couldn't imagine someone getting so much for so little as Roberto did.

He needs to shift for you, though. All that dosh for doing nothing.

My cap doffed.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE everyone make it a protest that can't be ignored.

This protest is not about Sam Allardyce, it's about whether we accept the shit running of the club for years, and the shit football that has now" won our hearts and minds".
To do nothing is to accept it, and in so doing, we will end up with what we deserve.

At the end of the day, the choice is yours, and I respect that. I ask that in turn you respect mine.

There's definitely a joke there somewhere.

I'll be thinking of you as I leave, my friend. Hopefully we'll raise a glass sometime.

We can't let this happen. We need to make it clear to the board. Force them to get rid of Allardyce before he ruins our youth system and undoes the last thing that was good about the club.

#walkouton78

We need a manager who can go on the training pitch and kick the players arses and show them what to do. Not someone in the canteen helping himself to another pie, chips and gravy whilst Shakespeare has them all doing extra practice on hoofing it into row Z.

Least you will not be alone totting out of the top balcony on 78 mins.

I said at the time that he was a total shit. I also asked questions as to what sort of management regime allowed such behaviour and just why Leighton Baines didn't show enough cojones to not give the ball to the shit. It all pointed towards a major mental deficiency at the club that resonates to this day sad to say.

Firstly, so long as the full context is provided, you can't use statistics to misguide an intelligent audience. Facts are facts, regardless of whether or not they support your point of view.

Secondly, nobody here - and I'm pretty sure that's it's safe to say, literally nobody - has a delusionally rosy view about Allardyce's record as an England manager.

Thirdly, what on earth does "mediocre supporter" mean? We may well have different views about what the best route to success is, but I'm disgusted at the suggestion that anybody on these forums doesn't want us to succeed.

Finally, it's frankly offensive to suggest that anybody who doesn't fully comply with your point of view is scared of success. Nobody is satisfied with "mid-table safety and an afternoon out" but it is not unreasonable to see marginal gains over the course of several seasons as a more likely route to sustained success than some kind of overnight Cinderella story.

No, if you are in any way ok with Allardyce staying as manager you are accepting mediocrity. That's just a fact. He has decades in the game with absolutely no success whatsoever. He is exactly what this club does not need and is of the exact mindset that he's seen Everton fade into the background.

Under his watch things have been dreadful, the football dreadful, he did worse against the same clubs Koeman had to face and was rightly sacked for. Add the completely unwarranted ego the man has and I have no idea how anyone could think for one second he should be at Everton.

Is there any level he won't stoop to to promote himself?

- another year of being last on match of the day
- another year of playing awful football and ruining our reputation
- another year of buying overpaid old players
- another year of our older players wasted, eg Gylfi would be almost 30 by the end of it
- another year of failed development of the youth players
- how many youth players will be sold?
- another year of losing the "hearts and minds" of the next generation
- another year of my life gone
- all wasted and for what

Admit it, Allardyce apologists, you're fearful people. Don't give in to the fear. Roar to get him sacked. Let's get someone without fear in. Let's coach the players to attack. Let's fear no one. Let's try to beat every side twice next season, no matter who they are. Let's say we are going to try and win the league. We're Everton aren't we?

#walkouton78

- another year of being last on match of the day - who cares?

- another year of playing awful football and ruining our reputation - There are two issues here - a) awful football and b) our reputation. Frankly a) I'd like us to win without style but mostly I'd like us to win and b) as Mourinho knows who cares?

- another year of buying overpaid old players - Please explain how that's Allardyce's fault.

- another year of our older players wasted, eg Gylfi would be almost 30 by the end of it again, - Again, Please explain how that's Allardyce's fault.

- another year of failed development of the youth players - see above....

- how many youth players will be sold? Don't know; don't care. If they're good enough keep them; if they're not...

- another year of losing the "hearts and minds" of the next generation. What are you talking about? Are you saying that we should sucker kids in on the basis if unreaisitic expectations?

- another year of my life gone. Yes.

- all wasted and for what. Nothing. Welcome to the concept pg nihilism.

Admit it, Allardyce apologists, you're fearful people. ..Not really, no.

Don't give in to the fear.. . I haven't.

Roar to get him sacked... Don't care one way or the other.

Let's get someone without fear in... Great. Name one realistic candidate.

Let's coach the players to attack... Fab. Who's doing the coaching?

Let's fear no one... erm I don't.

Let's try to beat every side twice next season, no matter who they are... Yay, Champions away... always aneasy match.

Let's say we are going to try and win the league. We're Everton aren't we? We are.. and we won't.

"remain 8th next season" this should be minimum target.

Problem is Sam we are not Bolton. We aren't a newly promoted club, we aren't relegation fodder. You were not good enough for West Ham or Newcastle and your certainly not good enough for Everton.

Sadly if Sam stays or goes I would be happy with eighth next season. Far better than risking a relegation battle. Stability is important to Moshiri.

The difference is I want to enjoy watching the team play, players 'going for the win', more forward, attacking play then defensive shadow chasing. I'd like to talk about players in good form, the hussle, the passing and interplay of the team. A hero for future generations. I think the young players have done well but I can't sell "the potential of a player" to my kids.

There are other teams who are exciting to watch, scoring goals and players that stand out as being the one to watch, for kids to imitate. Who have we got?

Name calling will not win you an argument when talking to a successful business man.
Stay away or walk away, that will talk louder to Moshiri.

8th with Sam or 14th with 'a Martinez'. Both frustrating but I'd take 14th with good attractive football anyday.

I HOPE for both good football and challenging for Europe. Mancini hasn't agreed to the Italian job yet, I hope it's because we have declared our interest.

MANCINI, MANCINI, MANCINI!

In fact, I think you owe it to those who can't attend. We have no way of demonstrating how much we want this man out of our club. The 95% poll verdict clearly hasn't made any difference to Moshiri.

Martinez, Moyes, Koeman - all deserved grief at some point or other, but I do believe that all of them had redeeming qualities.

Allardyce has none. He is a complete gobshite of a man who is going out of his way to goad the fans. Well, consider me goaded - I can't take having this individual as the figurehead of the club I love.

WALK OUT ON 78 - please!

Today's contribution comes from Aiden Doyle @ 103. My suggestion to my fellow contributors is not to respond any more to Aiden's attempts to wind you up. I think we can all agree that Aiden is 'Half Wit of the Day' and move on.

It is debatable whether we would have dropped anyways, but none of us have a crystal ball.

What is clear is that his style of football is not what we want - Sam's footballing philosophy is dated and moribund.

I don't know who the next manager will be for next season but I would prefer it not to be Allardyce,

There's very good reason to be worried. If we don't do something about it, Allardyce will be in charge next year.

The football side of the club is dire and until the club puts in place a board who want to run a successful business and not be living in fairy land, then problem at EFC will grow. A new manager with the same rancid board won't fix the issue. We need proven business man who crave success and not mediocrity.

It's huge now and if this lot don't take stock now they will be permanent members of the prop up league within the EPL, the teams that never break into the top 5.

SA was never a fit, the club knew that. Let's see what happens after West Ham.

In fact, with gobshites like the above mentioned running our club, 8th place sounds fucking wonderful.

But if we stay with him I'm very confident we'll make no progress towards being a top 6 side and won't play football worth watching. Then we'll change manager in, at best, the same state.

Basically, it's a no brainer to take the chance now.

What next, pro-protesters singing "Out the gate on 78" with the Sam backers singing "We hate the 78?"
This isn't simply about Sam. It's about the club, the last 20 years, the condescending media, the shite football and the fact that all of the above think that us fans should just shut the fuck up and accept it, because we are just stupid, blind, loyal supporters who appear not to matter.

Whichever side you fall on, stop the personal invective please lads (and any ladies).
It's not the Everton way.

Oh. Allardyce out by the way. Kev Tully has promised to buy everyone in The Winslow a drink who are in there between the 78th and 90th minute.

COYB.

Arsene Wenger departs Arsenal, largely at the behest of their fans disapponintment at not winning trophies.
Everton will have won fuckall for 24 years by the time the next League Cup is raised aloft. Furthermor, Everton sat just eight points behind Spurs, when we appointed the stats mad manager, we presently languish twenty points away.

OK, that is the evidence.
Now.

Are Arsenal looking to replace the widely respected Professor with the gravy stained hippo ?

No, because that would be ludicrous for "a club like Arsenal".

Thank you so very much for nothing Mr Kenwright.

I'm leaving before the final whistle today for the very first time in My Blueblood Evertonian life. Shame upon those who remain, call y'selves Evertonians ?

Because if you do then I do not want to be in the same ground as you

Allardyce out !

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

He gets masses of free personal advertising space in these pressers, so it is a great opportunity to market himself.

He must know it is impossible to stay on in his position and may have already been told so. The level of discontent towards him is just too much.

The pressers are his shop window and the accountants at WBA etc etc will be wanting some of it.

Walk out on 78

I remember having something to eat at Swansea, everyone had left the place to go the match, and I was just sitting there having a latte, and was actually excited to be going to see my team play football.

It hasn't happened much during my adult life, but during that first season of Martinez, the football got better, and going to the game became a bit more, than something I've just always done.

I want to see clever footballers, managed by a clever manager, and I want to see some excitement at Goodison Pk, before she eventually closes forever.

Si, if you can get to Goodison, I will give you my ticket,, because although I want to go, just like the end of the Moyes era, I can't find it in myself to go inside Goodison right now

Nothing is going to change at this football club unless there is some form of visible protest. Where are the survey results ? they should be published given the people who completed them are the STH and or Everton members.

The suggested protest is peaceful - no meaningful change at this club is going to be achieved unless the supporters (Who are the club - IMO) let their feelings be known. It's not exactly warfare!

So come on all - out on 78 if you truly care about our great club.

ie : If Liverpool were 9th and not in Europe, we would be in Football Wonderland.

They will be looking for lame excuses for the antipathy towards Sam Allardyce. This nugget will be up there.

If you want another season of Sam Allardyce and mind numbing mediocrity, stay sitting in your seat after the 78th min.

Or

Make a statement

Walk out on 78

I think the decision has already been made one way or the other.

Ideas for protests have been circulated in the past and haven't been particularly well observed.

The big difference here though is that recent past managers have divided the fanbase. I really can't believe after these comments anybody can still think Allardyce is the man for Everton. The football was enough to turn me off months ago but many believed his tuurgid style was a means to an end.

Moyes, Bobby and Koeman all showed respect towards the fans (behind the scenes things way have been different - courting the Man It's job etc.).

This is on a different level though and this fucker has to go.

I'm not going to the game... I've been once since the corrupt, classless, narcissistic bung taker was appointed and I ain't going back until he's resigned to the history books.

The potential replacements touted on here are, to say the least, uninspiring and give me no hope never mind expectation, of better.

At his press conference he himself alluded to why a sacking now would be mad. The World Cup and the August 9 window closure would make it massively difficult for a newcomer to get to grips with the current squad, identify needs going forward and to embed a tactical approach.

Hopefully we can win the last two games, at least remain unbeaten, and the team can start on the basis of a nine match unbeaten run. That gives confidence that we can stay in and win games, a confidence that went west after the Atalanta away game. It has taken a long time to see that back on the pitch.

Changing managers regularly hasn't worked anywhere else, (maybe Watford) and stability is the first essential.

Many on here were forecasting at the beginning of the season that 7/8 was where we would finish, given the squad. In his answer, to a long question that I couldn't make out and nobody else has been able to share, I asked very early on in the thread, Allardyce answered two questions. Chris Gould was right. One was about what could have been achieved with the squad, the other was about next year and he mentioned recruitment.

Both answers were realistic unlike much of what is on here.

Two final points.

I have never left a game early voluntarily. I never will. I support the club and wish the players well as long as they do their best however limited that might be.

Finally, Brian Williams, who do you think you are to call me a "mediocre supporter?" How dare you insult me because I choose to disagree with your views.

I watched my first game, aged 9, fifty-five years ago. I got my first season ticket three years later. I have watched Everton all over this country and, since retiring, abroad.

I don't know how old you are but I have watched more dross at a lower level than the current team's efforts for more years than I care to remember but I still renew my season ticket.

Regarding knowing the game, I played until I was fifty-five, injury stopped that, I have an FA coaching qual and I coached schoolboy football for years.

Enjoy your early journey home tonight. You deserve it. Twelve more minutes for you to give your head a good disk before you go to bed. Don't catch cold.

In my mind it makes you someone who is happy with our lot OR maybe someone who isn't BUT isn't prepared to do anything about it.

If you're happy with our lot then I respect you and your stance.

Lastly if you feel I have personally insulted you then I wholeheartedly apologize because that wasn't my intention.

I know I know what's in it for me??????

Anyway Col I'm off before I fall out with anyone else on here.

This hounding of a man who has helped the club through a difficult time shows a lack of gratitude, a lack of respect, and a lack of class towards the manager. In which other reality would a guy be sacked after rescuing a club with only one transfer window to help his cause?? I can't believe this shit...

This proposed walkout is disgusting and counter-productive. You lot put up with Moyes for an eternity without a murmour but, on this issue, you all feel as if you have the moral high ground because Sam Allardyce was sacked from the England job. That is the truth here, isn't it? Forget fancy football whilst we were in a dogfight for survival and fighting. That's what we've done under Allardyce.

I want no part of your foolishness you are just giving the other lot across the park more ammunition to fire. This walkout that will no doubt fall flat on its face is causing shame and embarrassment on the club. You Zealots are doing far more damage here than Allardyce.

I think any reasonable fan group would give a manager as the least 12 months in a job if he takes that job on in mid-season with an awful squad he inherited.

Please don't bore me with the "under Allardyce, we rolled over against the big boys" nonsense as we have been doing that since Joe Royle left
the club. What a shithouse trick it is sacking a manager who has rescued your season. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I'm ashamed for you.

Trouble is, although Alladyce DOES have Moshiri by the balls, he doesn't have my heart or mind, nor many others In hope.

In what is shaping up to be a right, if short, dogs breakfast of a close season, I also hope that Moshiri doesn't pick the first bus that comes along, just because it seems to be going in the general direction...local arl arse alert. We need the 500, not the 68...though as a longtime traveller on the 46, that in the middle golilocks option got you there

Over to you Mosh.

I am sure plenty others on here, myself included have never left a game early.

What this is about is a survey being ignored, Sam sticking an imaginary two fingers up at the loyal away supporters who dare to vent their frustration, a manager who is happy to set 8th as a target next season, who insisted playing Williams until his three match ban finally got him out of the team, who insisted on playing Southampton's third choice right back as our left back, who has completely ignored Banigame, dropping him to the bench, insists on playing Calvert Lewin as a winger, starved Tosun of any support, is happy to defend against Swansea and hold out for a draw by putting an extra defender on.

This is not the manager I want in charge of our club next season.

If the survey has been ignored based on season ticket sales, something has to be done to get the message across to the board.

Walking out on 78 minutes is hopefully as you say, to finally have a voice on some of the dross you have witnessed over the 50 odd years instead of accepting it.

It is time to make a stand as supporters, these same fans will still be here, sat next to you, walking side by side outside the ground with you, long after these, players, managers, board have departed, might not be yourself or myself, but a ready made generation of our families, sons, daughters, grand children, all following in our football steps.

I have had enough of some of the dross over the years, but not anymore, I will be walking out on 78 minutes, those with me that's great, those wishing to stay is your choice and no fellow fan should have a go should fans wising to remain.

All those attending today, do what you believe is right and follow your own conscience and not other people's perceptions.

I am sure no blue wanted to offend you. If anyone did, please understand it is our frustrations boiling over. We all want Everton to be number 1. We claim to be the 4th most successful club, but we are slipping down the list now, in terms of trophies won, and in terms of League titles, Man City and Chelsea are closing in on us fast. We are in danger of becoming Sunderland or even Newcastle if we don't sort this out.

Getting the ground will be a significant step towards addressing this. Bayern were not even the biggest club in Munich until after the Munich Olympics when they were handed a massive stadium, doubled their attendance and quickly became the powerhouse club we now know them to be. So I can understand your desire to maintain our Premier League Status.

You are a qualified coach. No doubt you take a keen interest in the coaching side of Everton. I for one always try to get others on here to understand the day to day aspects of the manager. It's all well and good calling for a trophy laden manager to come in and sort us out. How exactly would he do it? What are his strengths? What are his weaknesses? How does this fit in with our squad, our youth system, and our financial power?

Sam Allardyce, as you will know more than anyone, does little to no coaching. He, like Koeman before him, stands on the sidelines and watches. He has brought in some top level coaches, namely Craig Shakespeare, who he worked with at England and we all know he played a part in Leicester winning the league. A year ago, he had an unblemished record as a coach, but since he was sacked as manager, the reputation has taken a battering, so much so that he accepts just being a coach now. But he's the man for the day to day stuff, just as Erwin Koeman was for his brother.

Allardyce laid out his training blueprint for all to see before he took the job. He wanted to coach a drilled back four. He's done that, fair play to him. I would even go so far as to say that right now it looks as well drilled as it has for a long time. It's not the best defence we've had, but it is well drilled.

Next he wanted to coach forward passing, that's the ball going forwards immediately in transition into the opponents half. In other words, win it and hoof it. No doubt he does drills for this.

Then his attacking coaching. Allardyce famously said, he doesn't bother with coaching the final third, he “let's the players figure that out for themselves”. I mean what the …? So he neglects the most important aspect of the game, scoring goals. I wonder what kind of effect that might have on the side, oh wait, we're 19th in all of the attacking stats!

Now, Peter, being a coach you'll have watched coaching videos on other managers. The coaches favourite coach is Marcelo “El Loco” Bielsa. He is the man who started all this high pressing obsession. You'll know that his disciples include Pep Guardiola, Mauricio Pochettino and Jorge Sampiaoli, amongst others. Ralf Ragnerick was heavily influenced to and introduced gegenpressing to the German game which was then copied by Klopp. No doubt you'll love to watch Bielsa's videos (there's whole 2 hour sessions from his time in Bilbao out there for all to see). Bielsa drills his players in attacking movement. They have 3 or 4 set runs to make. Those “spontaneous” runs his players make when they win the ball high up the pitch are not spontaneous at all. Neither is the “spontaneous play” of Man City. It is all heavily drilled from running plays after plays after plays. The drills change from game to game. Michael Keane is slow on the turn? Let's run drills to isolate and turn him. This is the clever devastating attacking coaching that has made Man City the best team we may have ever seen in the Premier League.

Peter, I bet you've watched Marco Silva's coaching sessions too. You'll have seen the videos still on the Hull website, which give glimpses of him in action. Not him walking slowly about the pitch looking at his feet like Allardyce or of Erwin Koeman whistle in hand as Ronald watches on, no he's in the middle stopping it, waving his hands furious and demonstrating what he wants doing. Video after video shows him getting stuck in and educating the players. There's a few videos at Watford too. They're on the Watford website and youtube channel. There's also a load of videos on the Olympiciaos channel as well. These ones are longer. You can see him running attacking drills and coaching movement and still he's in the middle of the players, pointing, shouting, gesticulating and demonstrating.

There's a reason there's a long list of players grateful to Silva for improving them as players, and the list spans Sporting, Olympiciaos, Estoril, Hull and Watford. He's a top coach. One of the best in the world.

Surely this is the man we want to come in and get to grips with this side? To make us a better side. To have that balance between attack and defence? To develop the players. To work with what he has.

Peter, you may have watched other manager's or coaches at work. I have had an interest in Silva ever since he became Sporting manager, and so I followed his career closely. I love to watch great coaches at work and learn a thing or too. I wish there was more videos of Johan Cruyff at work.

Surely, Peter, you know as a coach that Allardyce is not right for Everton, that he has to go, and we need a world class coach like Marco Silva to fix things and take us to the next level, and that by appointing him, it may be a gamble, but he is not going to send us down, and maybe, just maybe, he will defy the odds with his outstanding coaching and land us a trophy or two, and even, perhaps the League title.

#walkouton78

Yes Sam, you've really captured hearts and minds. Yes it is a small minority. Keep dreaming lad. This was your chance at the big time and you showed you aren't up to it with your small club tactics and relegation battling football when we're 8th in the league.

Would anybody consider Buvac?

Tony Marsh, I defended your right to post on here some years ago, even though we basically never agreed. However, you called all opposing viewers to yours Kopites on the live forum last Saturday. Now we appear to be embarrassing shitehouse zealots.

If you have a valid point to make, it would be preferable if you left out all the invictive, and act in the hopefully dignified manner we did yesterday.

People might actually agree with some of your stuff then.

Yet we have a CL team, RB Leipzig, who apparently want to sign him on a permanent deal while Allardyce perseveres with the ineffective Bolasie. Since his loan to Leipzig, Lookman has out-performed Bolasie in virtually every statistical category. Remember when Allardyce was asked why Bolasie was being given g the time ahead of Lookman and his replyn was along the lines of "Because he cost a lot more." Great management eh?Expect all our potential future style and flair players to leave if Allardyce remains and then imagine what next season could bring. Relegation struggle anyone? Allardyce out!

Our chairman?

As in Bill Kenwright?

Forgive me appearing stupid but it's just so "out of the blue" good news that it's hard to believe.

Amongst those many supporters I spoke to on Saturday was one in particular who told me Sam has gone.
This wasn't from the usual mate of a mate who knows etc, it was from our chairman, who he also said advised Moshiri not to bring Allardyce near the club.

i.e. I was told by a fellow supporter, who had been told by BK himself. He is a friend of BK's, not a friend of a friend etc etc.

The next week will tell, as I personally would not be surprised if SA has gone before Sunday - I expect him getting a torrid time from ours and WHU supporters if he is there. I also think his "the supporters should give the players credit etc" is the latest in a long line of him winding the fans up.
The Daily Mirror today reports that Moshiri should know how the fans feel after 20,000 of them had walked without giving the players applause on the lap of honour.
I think that figure is a bit conservative myself.

In the mirror last week, it said Kenwrights tenure as Chairman was only until August this year as part of the share sale agreement.

From a totally different source, I understand our Wayne will receive a ٣million bonus payment on top of his 𧵎k wges at the end of the season.

Interesting times.

Definition of bonus -"a sum of money added to a person's wages as a reward for good performance".

Mmm.

Gobshites acting in disbelief to actions and complaints from the anti Allardyce "section" of the fans base.

If you are not listening don't bother, it's spoil your day. I had to switch off

Really sad that it has become normal for pundits to demand acceptance of a lack of ambition and entertainment in a competitive branch of the entertainment business.

This game will eat itself if it isn't careful.

I also think that many football journalists will be embarrassed at the way he was set up by a tabloid and then shafted by the FA.

Take a bow Sir.