Brands and Silva talk transfers with Kenwright

Certainly should not be involved in transfer business, so don't get this: "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" nonsense.

BK: " Don't worry your pretty little head. I have used all my contacts and secured Terry Darracot, Mick Bernard and Bret Angell."

Silva:" But..."

BK: "You must remember we are a family and look after our own luvvie."

Does this mean Bill is still part of the negotiating team?

Accept for the awards night Bill has barely utterly a word in public for months.

Whilst people have credible gripes with how he has run things, he is very much in the rear view mirror, this feels like a vanity excercise, appeasement to keep Bill in the loop.

Tell me, for those still wishing to run him hard into the ground what if any actions/developments in club in recent times have his fingerprints on them?

The board changes, the manager DoF and the middle management shake up, even Allardyces appointment are Moshiri’s m.o.

Might be easier to focus on who is running EFC rather than the waning influence of yesterday’s man?

To everyone who I said was wrong about Kenwright’s influence I apologise. This really worries me.

Hard not to be paranoid as a blue but why the fuck is Kenwright involved at all?

BUT

Who better to sell Everton to players who have lots of other opportunities and want to know what we are all about?

Just a thought.

Brand and Silva may well be travelling to London and may well be dropping in on Kenwright to say "hello".

They may also be dropping in on Moshri for the same reason, or another one of his appointees, who has not been named in the grand reshuffle, but still carries influence within the club.

They may well be meeting an agent, or agents to discuss deals – that does not mean, of course, that Kenwrightwill be with them when those meetings take place.

The only people who truly know what they are doing in London will be Brands and Silva; those "other" people whom they have arranged to meet and anyone whom Moshri has told them to meet.

Other than that, as ever, it is all speculation and paper talk.

When they see ‘Bill Kenwright calling', they will answer their phones.

It's pretty obvious why they would go and see Kenwright and why he's still an asset to be used wisely in transfer dealings.

I would prefer to sneak a peak at both Silva’s and in particular Brand’s list of contacts especially with European signings in mind.

He is in every way, yesterday’s man. Look forward not backwards?

I see the team running around, doing bends, lifts and what-nots, just getting into general shape. Time for Silva to have "summit-talks" in London and then get back in time to watching them finally do football-stuff!

As long as Silva & Brands name the targets and prices, then letting BK do the smooth talking might not be too bad! I do hope they have lured him into a position where they can copy his contact-list, though...

Ignoring all the rumors, I am still waiting for the first signing; this will show the direction where the new manager and DOF want to improve the team. With all the modern forms of communication, this to me is just an informal information meeting.

Silva has also been telling the echo how Holgate has a key role to play, how if this lad is in his way? I think we’re far more likely to sign a giant like Mina and then utilise Keane alongside him and swap them out for Holgate and Jags.

Lev, the meeting was Tuesday night. That was after the first day on grass and we trained on grass again today. We did the gym stuff on Monday, and that was to set base lines to measure against for the season so wasn’t really a training session as such.

Just a thought.

If we do loan, I hope a buy clause or at least first option clause is inserted.

He'll be expensive as there's still 5 years left on his contract.

He's useful all right but i'm still going to bang on about the old chestnut of we don't need another righty for central defence.

Both Gibson and Mawson for me.

John (#12); Who better to sell Everton to players? Not if the first question is; "What part of Liverpool do you live in, Mr Kenwright?"

But when that particular hurdle was overcome, other hurdles came to light. Maybe they where there all the time. We all have gone through the rollercoaster of hope and despair in the last three years. But we all know now that Everton is a rebuilding job and can identify the hurdles and danger signs on that path.

Mr Bill is not blameless in the debacle of these last three years. His parental attitude to players has left us with soft touch contracts. This is charactised by the questionable extending of existing contracts at inflated rates for some players and one-year extensions for loyal service for aging players. Everton's contract situation is the worse in the Premier League and it is a stall on progress. The transfer policy has resulted in over-inflated prices paid and bloated player contracts which no other Premier League side has got caught up in.

The haunting by Rooney of Everton was, it appears, Mr Bill's direct responsibility. We are still able to hear the wails from as far away as Buzzard Point. Silva's three year contract was an unnecessary risk, given he was unemployed and other Premier League Ciubs didn't take such a risk e. g. Arsenal gave a lesser contract to a clearly established manager with credentials to prove it.

After years of involvement with football clubs, it has become clear to me that, to win Silverware, two ingredients have to be in place: First, a committee or Board who know what they are about, led by a capable Chairman. And secondly, a Team Manager who knows what he is about. A clear plan and path are obvious and are evident as a result.

Mr Bill has ultimately been unsuccessful in his role of Chairman as far as being able to obtain Silverware is concerned and never looked like he could. He won't be able to in the future either.

Brands and Silva's trip to visit Mr Bill in London is worrying. Is Everton's rebuilding plan being led with capability and in the right direction? Everton are in Liverpool and proud of it.

I also worry about Silva's use of the term 'Mr Bill'. It is a form of inverted contempt. My car was failed at the Mot by a prat who continually addressed me as 'Boss', a similar term.

Kenwright & transfers = mucky business. Fuck off, Bill, and let real professionals do the job we pay them to do and which they are infinitely better than you at.

Perhaps it's just the full appreciation of what they've inherited has made them realise that they very much sink or swim together.

"Ignoring all the rumors I am still waiting for the first signing, this will show the direction were the new manager and DOF want to improve the team."

If they don't tell him they are going to sign a left-sided centre-half – a "big one" as Steve Ferns puts it – I am going to throw a wobbler.

Easily typed negative clichés on Bill should be left aside. This was a business meeting and the two in charge are merely working within the structure. Kenwright will agree with their collective judgement and just pave the way for them to do their job and to help with any connections.

Kenwright is renown by players for waxing lyrical and passionate about EFC and our heritage and future. He may not be a billionaire and may have made mistakes, but he took us from the Johnson era to where we are now. Let it Be!

Fingers crossed for Brands and Silva and their plans for the next 5 weeks!!

Better still, why doesn't lard-arse come up on the train and go back after the meeting? Why isn't the meeting between Silva, Brands and the CEO? The Chairman can then be appraised of goings on by his CEO.

This is all wrong. It is too 1970s and Moshiri needs to clip Kenwright's wings and give more power to the CEO.

I'm pretty sure that Bill is very popular with other clubs, especially that lot down the M62 who have signed our best players for relatively low fees and mostly sent their cast-off over-the-hill players in the opposite direction at inflated fees.

No new stadium – yet, no trophies, no derby victories at the other place, no challenge for the title – Yep! A pretty good record for the Best Evertonian we all know.

If some other person similar to Bill had have had control of Everton in our early years who knows what depths we could have reached – a blue version of Accrington Stanley perhaps?

Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs supporters would not have stood idly by as they watched their club fall down the pecking order for so long – biggest fan of the club, in charge or not – and neither should Evertonians.

Why couldn't the meeting be held at Finch Farm, in the first week of the players reporting back for preseason training, together with assessing the players, rather than travelling to London & back??? Total nonsense.

Kenwright — just keep out of it. Thanks for what you did in the past, but now just go.

It's time for Moshiri to put him in his place!!!

No matter what Marsh or Johnson did or didn't do, it is painfully obvious that Kenwright was only ever out for himself and almost ran Everton into the ground in his self-fulfilment. He has now made himself millions while never putting one penny of his own money into the club.

Can you seriously say that anyone who involved Greene and Earl in the control of the club and pathologically lied about Goodison Park and the need to move to Kirkby so he and his cronies could line their pockets has Everton's best interests at heart?

He should have been run out of the club over Kings Dock which he lied about for 2 years saying the money was ring-fenced and then refusing to resign as chairman when Paul Gregg offered to fund Kings Dock if he did.

Great Evertonian my Arse.

Steve Ferns reckons that Silva prefers massive tall centre-backs so the rumours linking Gibson may be just that.

It now seems, other rumours, that we are now stepping back from Tierney as we don't reckon he's worth the £25 million Celtic have put on him.

Who knows what's going on? Typical eh?