Everton receive ratification of Zouma loan

Friday, 10 August, 2018 448comments  |  Jump to last
Updated Kurt Zouma has become Everton's fourth and final signing of a busy last day of the transfer window after his loan transfer from Chelsea was rubber-stamped by the Premier League.

The club submitted a deal sheet to the Premier League before the 5pm cut-off and had until 7pm to send in the final paperwork on a proposed season-long loan.

Nothing was confirmed as of 9:30pm and Sky Sports' on-location correspondent, Alan Myers, reported that it was unlikely that an announcement would be made either way until the morning.

A delay in the processing of the paperwork meant that the transfer couldn't be made official last night but the Blues have now been able to officially add the Frenchman to their squad. He will wear the Number 5 shirt vacated by Ashley Williams.

Everton do not have an option to buy Zouma next summer but they could explore one with Chelsea if he performs as expected this season.  

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John Pendleton
1 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:38:59
On his day beast of a player - get him in!

So many positive rumours turning out to be be true - most unlike Everton.

Stewart Lowe
2 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:43:36
Did we officially get Zouma???? Does anyone know? There was all the frenzy about the three we did get, does it mean in the end we didnt get Zouma?
Benjamin Dyke
3 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:44:09
We got him! Unreal!
Tony Everan
4 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:47:41
Zouma will give us even more strength and solidity at the back. Also providing cover when injuries are picked up.A loan deal is the best option.

Marcel Brands ha splayed a blinder this summer, one of the best back room appointments ever made. Well done to Mr Moshiri for getting him.

Si Pulford
5 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:48:48
If we get him I’ll be happier than Zouma. We need some premier league experience. This guy can go straight in against wolves. Strong fast and good in the air. Great window eh?!


Si Pulford
6 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:49:20
Happier than Mina even!
Chris Watts
7 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:50:36
Holy crap. Seriously though all these new players are going to take months to gel. I just hope the fans will be patient and not get on the team and managers back
Stewart Lowe
8 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:52:50
How do we know that we have got Zouma as there is no new on BBC, Everton FC website, or even Chelsea's???
Andy Meighan
9 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:53:23
I'm not getting too excited... Oh, alright, I am... Brands and Silva have identified the problem positions and rectified them. If this is true and we have landed him, I'm more than happy.

One thing's for certain: we are going to be better to watch than we were last season. I just hope, if results don't go our way early on, the fans don't get on the manager's back. This is going to take time so let's give him it — and plenty of it.

Fran Mitchell
10 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:54:28
get in there. Nobody could have dreamed of a window like this. And each and every deal makes sense, fits something that we needed.

Now we have 3 excellent young defenders, and Keane. One wonders whether Jagielka will stay or look for either a loan to a championship club or move to the US or something.

David Pearl
11 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:55:14
I don’t think they will take too long to settle as they all have a connection. They all speak the managers lingo too. This gives us the option of 3 at the back if Siva wants to play that. Really looking forward to the first game of the season at Goodison.
Frank Crewe
12 Posted 09/08/2018 at 17:57:04
Assuming 4-3-3

Coleman - Zouma - Mina - Digne
Gana - Sigurdsson - Gomes
Walcott - Tosun - Richarlison

Bench: Stek, Keane, Baines, Shneiderlin, DLC, Niasse, Lookman.

Looks like a side to me.

Michael Lynch
13 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:00:09
No room in the side for Bernard then Frank?

I'd guess
Coleman Zouma Mina Digne
Schneid Siggy Bernard
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

bench: Stek, Gomes, Keane, Baines, Gana, Lookman, Niasse

Steve Dickinson
14 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:00:45
Frank - No place for Bernard?

Don’t worry, I too am still reeling after today’s excitement.

Jim Knightley
15 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:01:40
You are forgetting Bernard Frank. He plays instead of Theo imo
Stewart Lowe
16 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:01:56
Arent we counting our chickens with this one??

The title above says 'Everton look to sneak' it doesn't say we got him

Si Pulford
17 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:03:42
Some very reliable journos tweeting that he’s having a medical now. Chris bascombe amongst them.
Sam Hoare
18 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:08:06
Zouma and Mina would certainly make an extremely powerful and imposing CB pair!

Exciting times. I wonder if there’ll be an option to buy with Zouma deal. Hope so but I doubt it.

Fran Mitchell
19 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:08:15
There are a number of possibilities.

For me,

Digne Mina Zouma Coleman
Schneiderlin (the only downside was not replacing him)
Siggy Gomes
Bernard Walcott Richarilson

Other possibility
Zouma Mina Holgate
Digne Coleman
Gueye Gomes
Bernard Tosun Richarilson

Frank Crewe
20 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:08:53
Forgot about Bernard. I think I'm losing it after this window.
Steve Ferns
21 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:13:17
Coleman Mina Zouma Digne
Gomes Bernard
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

Subs: Stek, Baines, Holgate, gueye, Sigurdsson, Calvert-Lewin

Darren Murphy
22 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:13:24
Now Everton have submitted a deal sheet to the Premier League to give the club a further two hours to finalise any paperwork on a potential loan move from Stamford Bridge.We haven't signed him yet.
John Keating
23 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:14:18
Very exciting day but one concern for me is not shipping some of the deadwood out.
Conor Skelly
24 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:14:55




Steve Ferns
25 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:16:14
John we have three weeks to ship out players to the championship and to Europe.
James Marshall
26 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:16:53
A good point to note now is that Silva likes to play a high-press attacking team, not easy for a first 11 to keep going over a full season so expect plenty of rotation over the season.

We've bought for depth as well as first 11, and the Zouma deal, if it comes off before 7pm, really sets us up for the season!

Steve Ferns
27 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:17:54
Stewart. The deal is agreed. The figures are all written on the deal sheet and sorted. It had to be before 5.00pm. We now have 2 hours to sign paperwork. It’s not two hours to thrash out a deal.
Fran Mitchell
28 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:19:13
we still have time to loan player to the championship, and sell abroad. Expect deals for Bolasie, Besic, and some youngsters.
Stewart Lowe
29 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:19:58
But where is the evidence that it was on the deal sheet?
James Marshall
30 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:21:17
Stewart, the deal sheet means the deal is done - it just means the final bits of paperwork need to be submitted to the league for it to be ratified.

James Marshall
31 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:21:47
That's why it's called a deal sheet, because it contains the deal :-)
Steve Ferns
32 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:22:23
Stewart you obviously don’t know how deal sheets work!

This is the rules. It has to be agreed. The details have to be written on a sheet of A4 in a prescribed form and faxed over.

Negotiations need to have been concluded and just the paperwork needs to be signed.

Stewart Lowe
33 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:22:27
Sorry guys, I knew what a deal sheet was, but we haven't seen the deal sheet that proves he is on it???
Tony Everan
34 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:23:44
Wow a very strong defence, and a strong midfield/attack .with Brazilian guile and pace . A top class goalkeeper on top of all that.


Coleman Zouma Mina Digne
Sigurdsson Bernard
Walcott. Tosun. Richarlison

Where does Gana fit in?

With this squad now I expect us to compete the to toe with the likes of Man Utd , Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham and maybe gets results against Man City and the RS too. They all have Euro football to contend with and they won’t fancy facing us full on 3 days after a long away trip or a tough home match.

Steve Ferns
35 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:24:06
The premier league have confirmed Everton’s involvement in two transfers. One with Barcelona and one with Chelsea.
Andrew Clare
36 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:24:34
I would say with everyone fit in about 2 or 3 months time we are going to be a formidable outfit. What a fantastic window. Beyond our wildest dreams.
I can’t believe the difference between now and just a handful of months ago when we had the dreadful Allardyce in charge.
Stewart Lowe
37 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:28:14
If the premier league have confirmed that Everton are involved in two transfers, then that could be Gomes and Mina, or am I wrong? It doesn't mean its Zouma
James Marshall
38 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:28:47
Stewart, it's been confirmed that the 2 deal sheets are Gomes and Zouma.
Clive Mitchell
39 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:28:55
Fran, 19, it's a game of opinions, and for me with our exciting new squad you couldn't start (or finish) a game with neither Tosun nor Niasse on the pitch. Last season it was painfully obvious that we only had three finishers, the other of course being Rooney. I think that's Silva's outlook too. I don't think he's quite expecting that kind of role/input from Richarlison. (I'm not writing DCL off, he still has time.)
Steve Ferns
40 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:29:12
You’d only be right if one of them played for Chelsea.
Drew O'Neall
41 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:29:47
Great work M & M and the money men. You got players in every position we needed barring perhaps another centre forward.

I fully expect to see Jags involved for a big part of the campaign because these two have a lot to learn but great to have young, talented athletes to come in and improve us and themselves.

Mike Keating
42 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:29:51
Good point Andrew,
Can you imagine any of this lot signing up for Allardarse?
Fran Mitchell
43 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:33:50
I think Walcott could make the no9 position his own, and having him in the middle with Bernard and Richarilson next to him ( and Lookman in reserve) would give us a very quick and skillful attack that could really hurt teams on the counter. Walcott has for years wanted to play centrally, maybe now is his chance.

Tosun will have a role giving us different options and different playing styles. I too hope DCL can grow and stake a claim. It is exciting to have many options.

Niasse, though, last minute sub at most.

Stewart Lowe
44 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:36:38
Guys, thank you for the input, I'm in heaven whether it goes through for Zouma or not, as nobody could have anticipated this. We knew they couldn't eradicate all the crap that we had going on at Everton, but they have had a bloody good go at it. This transfer window could go down as one of the biggest things to happen to Everton, but then I thought, no way, it was the day we signed Brands and Silva, as none of this without them would have been a reality. Well done guys.
Paul Birmingham
45 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:44:16
This would be a steal, if it can happen. MB has played a blinder... He means business, no more fairy stories..

A day of wakening for Evertonians, as it seems the mould of mediocrity in terms transfer dealing has been broken, these last few weeks.

James Marshall
46 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:49:10
L'Equipe are saying the Zouma deal WILL go through. Cross everything.
Jason Broome
47 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:49:23
Oh please let this be true. This and Bernard are the big ones for me!
Ian Burns
48 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:51:01
Stewart - the deal sheets are for two players only, ie Gomes and Zouma. All of the other deals have completed
Dave Lynch
49 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:54:46
Isn't Gomes crocked?
Steve Brown
50 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:55:22
Can you all stop picking Schneiderlin in your ideal teams? It is ruining the vibe on what has been a really exciting transfer deadline day.
Jamie Crowley
51 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:56:49
Five minutes left until we can say, “Arise! Sir Brands of Everton.”


Get Zouma please.

James Marshall
52 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:58:45
This whole thing about Mina & Zouma both being wanted by Utd but both coming to us - is it the miserable Mourinho effect? He's been a right downcast figure all pre-season.
Derek Knox
53 Posted 09/08/2018 at 18:59:25
Hope so Jamie, I think Sky like to drag it out for their theatrics !!
Mark Frere
54 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:00:56

Coleman Zouma Mina Digne
Gana Gomes
Bernard Sigurdsson Richarlison

No place for Walcott, sadly.

Stewart Lowe
55 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:00:57
I think we need to expect to allow them the first 10 games to gel, to create partnerships, and to bring themselves up to the speed of the premier league, but I get the feeling we will be drooling at some of the football Everton play this season.
Jamie Crowley
56 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:02:39
So much for work today!

James M I think there may be sonmething in that. Mou won’t last past Christmas.

Why join a team about to go into upheaval??

I’m stunned. We pipped some very big clubs for 3-4 players this window.

What’s the word on Zouma?? Past deadline now.

Jay Wood

57 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:04:27
Like a handful of others, I'm still waiting to see actual confirmation of all these deals on the official Everton club site.

Thus far, it has only confirmed Bernard today.

If all get confirmed, it constitutes one helluva transfer window by Brands and Silva.

Oh! And Bernard's 'welcome' interview now makes 3 big summer deals - add Richarlison and Digne - who have not uttered a single word in reference to BK and his role in the deal as we have come to expect from incoming players down the years.

I'm encouraged by that small detail.

tony byrne
58 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:04:46
Jamie, Talksport just said Zouma loan deal not yet done?
Jamie Crowley
59 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:05:58
Oh and the Man U thing -

Woodward (sp?) surely will get the axe now?

What a complete disaster of a window for ManU.

Hahahaha. 😀

Martin Berry
60 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:06:12
Still very young for a centre half and playing at Stoke helped him recover after a bad injury.
Potentially an excellent but of business, would have loved it to be a permanent deal but a loan is a good starter.
Jamie Crowley
61 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:07:27
That’s the fear Tony! We are past deadline.

Jeez I hope there are some official announcements very soon!


Ray Said
62 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:07:40
it will be interesting to see the final 25 selected for the squad and who then looks at getting a loan abroad
Antony Matthews
63 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:07:50
Has anyone picked Schneiderlin for their fantasy team ?
Tony Byrne
64 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:11:00
After today Jamie, I fear nothing! this will happen.
Karl Meighan
65 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:12:04
As long as we try and play the right way and improve on last season giving Clubs a hard game away from home I'm happy.

There is always a danger new players wont fit in or fail but these players all look to have talent and technique, Zouma would be a added bonus, but why didn't we move for him earlier?

Lets make sure we remain hard to beat at Goodison, opposing teams never used to like coming lets get back to that.

Colin Metcalfe
66 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:12:17
Wow ! what a transfer window for the blues, lets hope Marco can gel this talent together and make a real push for top six .honestly my head is still spinning .
Derek Knox
67 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:12:47
I don't think I have heard Everton mentioned so much on Sky Sports !!
Clive Mitchell
68 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:13:34
Antony, 63 - what a great question! Surely there can't be a single person who'd have done that? You'd have to have given up on life...
Kristian Boyce
69 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:14:12
Supposedly Chelsea refused to allow him to go to Man U due to them being direct rivals for the league. From what I've seen of Chelsea during the community shield, they are far from challenging for the title and more our rival for a top 6 spot.
David Milner
70 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:15:03
I gather that the 'deals done' form was submitted by 5 pm but we have until 7 pm to produce the contract. Here's hoping, but what a great transfer window.
Ray Said
71 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:15:47
the club must have spent near 400 mill since Moshiri got involved not many doubting his commitment now
Jason Broome
72 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:16:19
Mark @54

Like Carlsberg I don't usually do formations but if I did:-

Coleman Zouma Mina Digne
Bernard Walcott Sigurðsson Richarlison

Gomes on the bench.

Walcott has been good for us. Better than I expected. His link up play with Tosun has also been good. He is faster, better at creating space for others and more influential than Sigurðsson.

However until Gomes can show that he can handle the pace of the Premiership I think the above team (with Silva's high intensity style) will be a thing of beauty.

Wolves in 46 hours. Are you ready?

Dave Speed
73 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:21:02
L'Équipe have confirmed the Zouma deal. Gana and Snideylin will be cover for the cups. Unfortunately Gana is too lightweight for Silva I believe, and Snidey... well, enough said. if he plays a 4-3-3 it will be Bernard, Siggy and Gomez, as they are all intelligent and can interchange.

Bernard especially will be used to fluid rather than fixed positions, as Fonseca played exactly that way in order to confuse opposition defences when attacking, as they didn't know who to pick up and who to track.

With the pace of Richarlison and Walcott, it will be very exciting to watch, and hopefully be successful. If Cenk is, as he says, up to speed for the Prem, he should be getting loads of chances.

I think that the defence is now sorted.

Mark Tanton
75 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:25:13
Amazing really that the defence was not invested in last summer. If we get Zouma, that is two absolute beasts in central defence. Jagielka has had a lot of great moments at this club but his decaying Mr Nice persona was beginning to disappoint. Can see a few strikers being booted up in the air this season, and lot of Everton goals from set pieces hopefully.
John Atkins
76 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:26:33
Now for once and for a bloody long time I’m looking forward to the season and also looking forward to playing at Analfield !
Jason Broome
77 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:27:35
Dave @73 and Mark @54

This is a debate that I don't mind getting drawn into... Isn't it nice having so many quality formations and options.

Beaming right now. Optimistic Evertonians... Long may it continue.

Gordon Crawford
78 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:28:50
I hope we get Zouma. But we’ve had a great window. I just hope they all click. The only negative for me is that we didn’t buy another striker.
I also hope we rub it into all these pundits who have spent the last few years slagging us off.
James Marshall
79 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:29:09
L'Equipe haven't confirmed it, they've just said an agreement has been reached in the same way SSN/BBC/everyone else has.

Only the Premier League can confirm the deal past 5pm/7pm.

John Keating
80 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:32:45
Very happy with todays business but doubt we will see any of todays signings starting or even at Wolves.

I would think Silva will assess them over the next week and look at maybe introducing them over the next week or so.

Mark Tanton
81 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:35:10
I'm not sure I agree there John - whilst me may not see all of them, I feel that Silva saw enough in preseason to convince him that he can waste no time. I think Mina will come straight in and Bernard on the bench at least. I'm not sure Gomez is fit?
James Marshall
82 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:35:23
I just read that his full name is Kurt Happy Zouma, and that he's named after Kurt Sloane, Jean-Claude Van Damme's character in the film Kickboxer.

I'm not sure what to make of all that.

Charles Brewer
83 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:47:47
Do we have any idea whether Zouma was signed or not? None of the press seem to be saying that we have.
Tony Marsh
84 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:49:22
The best summer of player signings both in and out we have had in living memory. Some real quality brought in and several plodders shipped out. We now have an abundance of players in midfield and also attacking threats. We now appear that good that I can't find a place in the team for the £45 million man Sigurdsson. Where would he fit in?

For those bemoaning the appointment of Marco Silva, I think you should now be thankful we have him. Marco has played a massive part in persuading these players to come to Everton yet some crediting Brands with all the good work?? Just listen to what Bernard and Richarlison had to say about Marco Silva before you push him aside.

I think Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal could be vulnerable this season for different reasons so maybe there is a slim chance of the fight for 4th place involving us!!!

Let's get it on.

Lee Paige
85 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:51:31
I would hope Silva has already assessed the players we have brought in, right?
Chris Watts
86 Posted 09/08/2018 at 19:58:10
Seems like zouma it happening. Great window however. We have won players from under the nose of Man U and Chelsea. How great is that. Back in the big time
Alasdair Mackay
87 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:05:58
I'll be happy of Zouma goes through in time, but there is a concern that we are back with potentially 6 new signings in the 1st XI, add to 2 that arrived in January and this time last year Sigurdsson had not arrived yet. That's 9 1st team players that were not at the club 12 months ago!

There is alot of patience required to blend them all together and get used to the new system.

I don't think we will fly out of the blocks, but by the second half of the season we should be starting to look like a team. We certainly have all the pieces.

Philip Bunting
88 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:06:31
Great Window. Silva obviously realised the players he inherited got 3 managers sacked and lacked the winning mentality. Every player he signed has the ability, talent and winning mentality. This added to Colman, Pickford, Siggy, Walcott and Tosun leaves are starting 11 looking as strong as any. 1 more window will ship out the remaining excuses for footballers while Brands should start the hunt for a Lukaku clone now and have that deal in the pipeline for next summer.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
89 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:08:52
This is not over the line yet.

Chelsea refused to let him go to United as they were a rival.

I wonder whether now they have seen who else we have picked up they realised we may also be a rival and so pulling the plug?

Grant Rorrison
90 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:14:38
The Guardian says we've signed him?
Chris Watts
91 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:16:57
Fans are going to have to be patient. Some of these might not even play for a few weeks. I think we’re gonna take some thrashing’s in the mean time.
Anton Walsh
92 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:18:32
Did we get him?
Mark Tanton
93 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:21:10
Chris the season is too short to start with a few thrashings. We can afford a slow start but not a bad one.
James Marshall
95 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:26:10
Mina shirt number 13, Gomes number 8. That still leaves the number 5 free...
Mark Tanton
96 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:27:43
So perhaps Zouma for 5? Although doesn't Mina like to wear 13 and has perhaps requested it? Isn't it his Colombia number?
Jamie Crowley
97 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:31:27
It's 8:30 pm over there! What the heck is going on? Signed or not?

Tony Byrne at 64 - keep those positive vibes flowing!

I can't get over this all. What a window!

Pundits over here being very level-headed and objective with all things Everton. Most saying we've spent a lot and we're committed, but they caution a "wait and see" attitude.

In an honest moment I don't blame them a bit. After last season and our frivolous spending, I think it's more than reasonable to adopt that stance.

TWers preach patience, but realize this window is a different thing all together. We've actually addressed areas of need.

And we've not bought one hundred and eighty-six #10s!

James Marshall
98 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:31:41
Yeah he wears 13 for Colombia. Zouma wore the 5 shirt for Chelsea.
James Marshall
99 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:33:43
Ings to Southampton just announced - as someone said earlier, the Premier League have to work through the 10 deals submitted after 5pm, and still quite a few of them left to go so no need to panic yet.
Jamie Crowley
100 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:35:08
TY for that assurance James. My blood pressure is pulling back a bit.
Mike Gaynes
101 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:37:32
Guys, there were 10 last-minute deals for which the league got paperwork before the deadline, including Zouma.

Exactly one of the 10 has been officially announced so far (Ings).

We don't know what has yet to be done, but it might be the morning before these are signed off.

If there's anything we should have learned today, it's to be patient and trust in Brands.

Mike Gaynes
102 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:38:33
Jamie, you're supposed to be working.

Come to think of it, so am I.

James Marshall
103 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:38:48
Another one for Fulham just announced - some bloke with a long and fancy name. 8 to go.
Jamie Crowley
104 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:39:17
Mike - productivity is at March Madness levels here!
Keith Dempsey
105 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:39:48
Makes me wonder if the old squad was as weak as we all thought if 2 squad players and a Colombian who all I can remember of him from the WC was kicking people and scuffing up the penalty spot have suddenly made us into a top six team, seriously it all is positive but let's not too carried away.I haven't felt this good since we beat city 4-0
Jamie Sweet
106 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:39:54
Alan Myers is still outside FF saying he's waiting for confirmation.

He would have gone home if he didn't think something could still happen...

Jamie Crowley
107 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:41:45
I knew this guy was a beast but I just looked:

6'3" 212 lbs.

Dude is a TANK! Holy shit. Ripped like a Greek god!

Sign this guy!

Mike Gaynes
108 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:42:03
Jamie, send him a pizza, will you?
Jamie Crowley
109 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:42:25
Ya the Alan Myers litmus test is gold. If he's hanging on, something's still brewing.
James Marshall
110 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:43:39
I watched a Youtoob video of Zouma last season at Stoke - he's quick, strong, great tackler, looks to have good positional awareness, cuts out balls, good in the air and can spray a wide pass ala Jags.

I have everything crossed for this one to come off.

John Griffiths
111 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:43:40
Wikipedia has Zouma as an Everton player
Rob Halligan
112 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:43:41
I only live ten minutes drive from finch farm. Tempted to go down and see what's happening, but I'm watching the cricket.
Mark Tanton
113 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:44:35
And yet he's a tiny little Guy Diamond next to that colossus demi-God Mina!
Mike Gaynes
114 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:44:35
Jamie, Mina's even bigger. Both way bigger than Keane. And they'll dwarf Jags.
Matthew Williams
115 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:44:41
The only downside reading these posts of future teams is the lack of British players & no local lads get a look in neither.

But at least now we look so much stronger than last season & hopefully can go into games believing we can win against anyone home or away in both League games and Cup ties.

Well played, Mr Brands.

Jamie Crowley
116 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:45:16
Rob -

Stream a baseball game later - basically the same damn thing.

Get down to FF! TW needs eyes on this! ;0)

Mike Gaynes
117 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:45:25
Rob, you're watching . cricket??!!

(Head shaking.)

James Marshall
118 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:45:41
Rob, I wouldn't bother, Zouma had his medical in London so it's safe to say he's still down there. The Internet says he never travelled north today.
Jamie Crowley
119 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:46:06
Mike -

Mina's not as "thick" as this dude. This guy is a tank. And by all accounts a very talented tank at that.

Rob Halligan
120 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:46:16
Lancashire v Yorkshire. Big derby match.
Jamie Crowley
121 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:47:51
This all happened in London!?

Jeezuz. Someone must have read Elizabeth France's advice on us opening an office there.

That's impressive if we got this over the line in London. Impressive to me at any rate.

Dave Speed
122 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:47:53
Good news. Everton have ordered 10 sets of 5XLarge shirts for Mina and 10 sets of 4XXXXLarge for ? Can only be Zouma!
Terry Smith
123 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:48:53
Wikipedia know something we don't !

Steve Ferns
124 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:49:25
Jamie, I’d like to think my dad has had a word with the big fella and sorted this out.
Mike Gaynes
125 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:49:36
Thanks, Rob. I can only imagine the raw thrills and general excitement.
James Marshall
126 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:50:06
Terry, I edited the Wiki page. Sorry.
Mike Gaynes
127 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:51:55
Steve, I'd say your dad did good work all day today.
Jamie Crowley
128 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:52:25
He did Steve.

He did. ;0)

Good luck tomorrow as I believe you mentioned that's when the funeral is. Celebrate a life. Channel your Irish and drink plenty with good cheer and memories.

Steve Ferns
129 Posted 09/08/2018 at 20:53:47
Will do! I don’t need an invite for that!
Neil Mc
130 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:02:28
Who do people think Silva will go to for his ‘team’ (ie not club) captain assuming Jags and Baines get considerably less game time?

Surely the time is right for Coleman to be appointed?

Mike Gaynes
131 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:02:34
Steve, one small bit of odd advice -- stick an iPhone in your shirt pocket tomorrow and record the audio through your day.

You'll be sort of dazed all day and it will help you preserve conversations you'll want to recall later.

The day after my dad's funeral I could remember bits of the nice things people said, but couldn't remember who said them.

And even years later when people complimented me on my "eloquent" eulogy, all I could do was nod and say thanks, because I have never been able to recall a word I said.

Hang in there tomorrow.

Tom Evans
132 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:07:18
Guardian stating the paperwork all sanctioned.
Dave Williams
133 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:09:02
What a great day. Looks much more considered than last year and some of the dead wood remaining will likely go on loans by the end of the month.
Steve- hope this provided you with a nice distraction from tomorrow. Say whatever you need to, don’t look back and wish you had said more and I hope you have as good a day as possible- very best wishes.
Jamie Crowley
134 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:09:41
Neil Mc-

Coleman to be Captain. Has to be in my opinion. It's time for Jags to step down.

Starting lineup Saturday:

Capt.Coleman Zouma Jags Baines
Gueye (sorry Ferns we can hope)
Siggy Davies
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

Bernard will come in at 70 minutes for Davies. Mina and Digne on bench. They'll start the following week.

Rob Halligan
135 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:09:52
Clubs sometimes conclude deals at the last minute and it is not always easy for them to get everything completed and sent over by the deadline. The deal sheet allows a club to confirm that a deal has been reached in order to allow for additional time to submit the remaining documentation. For a deadline of 17:00, the deal sheet cannot be used prior to 15:00 and needs to arrive fully completed before the transfer window closes. Once the sheet arrives, clubs have got until 19:00 in which to submit the full paperwork.

So I suppose it can take any amount of time to process the deal sheet, once it's been received by the FA. Considering there were ten submitted, it could take hours to process them all.

Brian Williams
136 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:11:00
Anyone know if the Zouma deal went through?
Nowt online.
Brent Stephens
137 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:13:26
Sky showing a possible Everton lineup and it includes Zouma. So while it confirmed, it doesn’t seem dead yet.
Kristian Boyce
138 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:13:53
I imagine we are waiting for the photographer/drone pilot to get to London to officially announce Zouma
Brent Stephens
139 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:14:56
Myers at FF still.
Darren Hind
140 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:15:18
I think we would have heard by now if the Zouma deal went though.

I wouldn't be heartbroken if it didnt, We've have had worse windows

Jamie Crowley
141 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:15:19
Chain Myers to a lampost.
Neil Mc
142 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:15:40
Update from Alan Myers at Finch Farm - deal for Zouma still being worked on and unlikely to hear anything this evening
Brent Stephens
143 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:16:20
Myers saying nothing to be announced till tomorrow. Probably saying that coz he wants to go home.
Tommy Coleman
144 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:16:59
Silva could see at the pre-season games where the squad needed improving.
He and Brands have shown World Class recruitment skills.
Phase 1 completed. I think we can push for 4th spot with this squad.
Jamie Crowley
145 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:16:59
What the fuck? How can you not hear anything today?? The deadline is past.

I don't get that.

Rob Halligan
146 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:18:18
Surely any hitch and we would have been told, like deal off .
Jamie Sweet
148 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:20:57
Alan Myers just said we will have to wait until tomorrow for confirmation. Deal not dead though...
Mark Tanton
149 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:23:24
We have got some, winning personalities in here now. Surely we can go to Liverpool for the first derby of the season with a bit of a swagger and not shit ourselves this season?
Mike Gaynes
150 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:24:48
The optimist versus the pessimist.

Rob says we would have heard by now if the deal was off.

Darren says we would have heard by now if the deal was on.

Love you guys.

Jamie Crowley
151 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:26:09
It's on SSN - nothing until tomorrow.

I don't know the process - can you have a situation where the deal is done prior to the deadline pending a medical?

Kristian Boyce
152 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:27:33
Jamie, Leicester signed one of their defenders pending work permit, so maybe.
Chris Gould
153 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:27:52
Very odd. Had to be completed by 1900. I think it means that it's done and the club are waiting to get Zouma in the building so they can do the photoshoot before announcing it.
Done deal.
Rob Halligan
154 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:29:35
What bugs me is, we've had since June 1st (?) To do this deal, and yet we won't know until the day after the windows closed to find out if he's signed or not?I

Why can't deals be done in plenty of time?

Neil Mc
155 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:32:37
@ Tommy 144 As well as some class recruitment, I’m just as impressed with the speed and ruthlessness at which they have assessed the squad and made the changes.

Pretty much every issue that we as supporters have thought for so long have been addressed, apart from maybe a top quality striker.

Finally, maybe a manager that connects with the view from the stands.

Schneiderlin’s position in the starting 11 will be the final test I guess. Although I still have the feeling there is a player in there, just waiting to find the right balance around him

Gareth Ashman
156 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:32:41
I’m betting he’ll definitely be with us. Just waiting to get him in a shirt with all sponsors in the background. Probably got delayed getting to the ground after meeting somewhere to get all paperwork completed.
Tom Bowers
157 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:36:03
With a little more defensive depth now it could make this club more difficult to beat than they were last season.
The defensive back four(or three) has lots of experience and certainly more options in the height department.

With previously just Jags. Baines and Seamus back there apart from Keane it was looking a little lacking in inches especially after Funes departed.

This little lad Bernard can play a bit and alongside maybe Gomes and what we already have the attacking format could get a big boost.

However, like any other new formation and personnel availability it may take a little time for it to impact results and so we have to be patient a little longer but as long as the impact comes then we can be happy.

Dave Abrahams
158 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:41:56
Rob (154), forget Everton for a couple of minutes: how did Lancashire get on, please.
Rob Halligan
159 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:43:26
Dave, need 4 to win from 3 overs. Still got 6 wickets in hand.
Paul Hay
160 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:44:25
A very satisfying day which shows real intent for the coming season.
Messrs Brands and Silva have identified areas of need and hopefully all will gell together in time.
I'm not expecting us to fly out of the blocks but it's nice to feel that we are going to be a better team to watch this season.
Rob Halligan
161 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:46:50
Mike / Dave, you'll be pleased to know Lancashire win by 6 wickets. 👍👍👍
Paul Birmingham
162 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:48:34
Thanks Marcel, and thanks to the board, for planning such an accomplished transfer assault.

Far better than I imagined. Some serious dealing been done here, in such a short time..

Now for Saturday and reality check for this season. Great to see TWs in genuine good spirits, and long may it last, as very, very well earned compared to many transfer windows.

Ian Bennett
163 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:51:10
Assuming we can get Zouma done, it's been a great window.

6 quality signings that can go straight into the team, and part of the dead wood moved on. Young lads fixed up decent loan clubs too. Massive credit to Brands, Moshiri, and Silva.

A bit more work to move on Vlasic, Bolasie, Besic, Sandro and Martina. Hopefully some decent money raised here plus other loan lads, we can turn those loan signings to perm if they impress. The side looks like it just needs a top striker.

Dave Abrahams
164 Posted 09/08/2018 at 21:59:44
Rob (161), thanks Rob, and yes I'm very pleased, Mike obviously doesn't know how exciting cricket can be, especially in limited over games and more special when we beat Yorkshire.Not to go on but cricket never gets much scope in the media these days and I loved the days of Washbrook, Tattersall, Statham, Hilton etc. etc. Thanks again Rob.
Chris Watts
165 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:06:05
Yeh plenty of time to get rid of a lot of dead wood. What an indictment of the previous management
Len Hawkins
166 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:06:58
If the FA sort the deals alphabetically it will be about three weeks on Monday before they get to Z
Fran Mitchell
167 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:11:03
we were slow to get going in this transfer window, but one thing is for sure, Brands and Silva knew who they wanted. They played a high risk strategy, but it seems to have come off.

Many were complaining when we were 'missing out' on apparent targets: Maddison, Wilshire, Mawson, Gibson, Yarmolenko among others.

Many thought we should have thrown in the towel in regards to Mina and Digne when they 'played us around', but Brands and Silva remained firm and got who they wanted.

Indeed, they got players who in general, who you would expect to go to teams offering European football. Bernard, Mina, Digne, and Gomes certainly could expect European football. Zouma, as a highly talented youngster, also. Therefore yes, we had to wait a little longer, we had to make sure some high salaries like Mirallas and Williams got off the books to guarantee our wage structure was not destroyed.

All in all, there isn't a negative word about our management duo in Brands and Silva. They have gone about business in a professional and highly confident manner that seems foreign to Everton.

Of course there will be some problems still, the team needs to gel after such high turnover, and key positions like defensive midfield and striker may mean a true challenge to the top-6 may still be a step to far, and maybe one or two players will not meet expectations.

But the first transfer window has guaranteed that we go into 2018/19 with a heck more optimism than we expected when 2017/18 finished. We can all be confident of an exciting and unpredictable matchday experience. We can be confident of posting more times than ever 'goaaaallllll' and 'get in there', on the matchday forum. And at the end of the day, that is what it is all about.

Jay Wood

168 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:11:12
Best news of the day!

Lancashire beating the Yorkies with ease! Been listening to Radio Lancashire here in Brazil. Bit of a daft wobble, losing two wickets with just 20-odd to get, but a breeze in the end.

Makes up for the soft buggers losing 3 wickets and scoring 1 run in the final over against Durham when needing just six from the over, earlier in the week.

Much else happen sporting wise today..?

Rob Halligan
169 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:16:07
Jay, the game against Durham was unreal. As you say, only needed 6 runs in the final over to win, yet they were trying for a six every ball to try and win, and getting caught. A push for six singles was all it needed.

Nothing much else today, as the test match at Lord's was washed out!!

Simon Bradley
170 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:16:11
Apparently he has had/is having a medical to finalize a loan move. All the paperwork was submitted on time before the deadline, and a request for a (legal) extension was made. An announcement tomorrow morning on whether we were successful or not is expected.

I can see it now. LFC lodge an official complaint against EFC for not getting this done before the deadline and request that we are deducted 10 points at the start of the season, and we are not allowed to spend more than 10 million on a player in future windows because we 'break' football and the transfer window!

David Hallwood
171 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:17:31
Jay(#168) hope you didn't listen to the game v Durham. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Grant Rorrison
173 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:31:29
Hopefully this one happened and we'll hear about it tomorrow. Zouma was Chelsea's best defender a couple of years ago before his knee injury. If he gets back to where he was we wont have a hope in hell's chance of keeping him permanently and he'd be a contender for best defender in the premier league. Should form a pretty decent defence in the mean time with Mina.
Drew O'Neall
174 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:31:40
Stop putting Zouma and Mina in your back four.

It doesn’t work like that. At least not straight away.

Harry Hockley
175 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:34:19
Kurt Zouma's Wikipedia page says he plays for us so that's a good indication he's joined.
Jay Wood

176 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:48:18
Even if the Zouma deal falls through, you would have to be a particularly curmudgeonly Evertonian to complain about what Silva and Brands have achieved in this compacted and foreshortened transfer window.

The fear was that with such a bloated, aged and high-salaried staff, together with a presumed tightening of the purse strings by Moshiri, it would prove a nigh impossible task to revamp the squad.

Not only has the median age of the squad drastically reduced - we now have just 3 players 30+ - we have also managed to move on a number of rapidly fading and high-earning players WITHOUT first having to generate transfer funds to start buying new recruits.

In this respect, Moshiri has been as good as his word at the AGM: don't worry about the finances; leave that to me.

The five confirmed recruits are all in their low to mid-20s. Four of them are full internationals. Three of them have been recruited from Barcelona. BARCE-FRIGGING-LONA!!! All but Richarlison are title winners. All of them have something to prove. All have the best years of the playing career in front of them.

In recent seasons, physically, Everton has been a soft touch, easily shrugged off the ball. Three of the five new recruits have real bulk, strength and height, Digne marginally less so, Bernard offers a different skill set.

Mina, Gomes and Digne are already familiar to each other from their shared time at Barcelona. Richarlison and Bernard share a common heritage. This will help accelerate their 'bedding in' period. Within that group - and the existing squad - you can already envisage exciting combinations throughout the team.

The beauty of the recruitments for me is, you are hard pushed to name a best starting XI. Silva now has real options to shuffle the pack, depending on the opposition and how he wants to play.

The recruitment also challenges the existing squad, young and old alike. No more coasting. If you want to be a part of the match day XI, earn it!

If Zouma is confirmed, then - WOW!

Well played Brands and Silva, AND Moshiri for financing it.

Jay Wood

177 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:52:31
Rob and David, re: clikky.

I frigging did listen to THAT final over vs Durham.

The missus and Toffee the dawg learnt some new Anglo-Saxon phrases with each passing ball.

It's not just Everton that can get to me!!!

Love me cricket, me.

Jack Convery
178 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:52:44
Less Zouma more like Slowma this deal.
Andy Williams
179 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:52:53
Papers all seem to think Zouma is a done deal. Never known TW to be so full of positivity. Long may it last. COYB.
Derek Knox
180 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:53:03
As you say Jay, even without Zouma it has been a good window, and we avoided any Man U rejects.
I still feel confident we will still get Zouma, but it won't be announced till tomorrow.
Unfortunately, I doubt if any will play a part for Saturday, but you never know.
Mike Galley
181 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:56:57
As loathe as I am to admit it, I think Phil Thompson made a good point on sky earlier. He suggested that our manager and DOF spent the pre-season assessing the players, and after last saturdays game at the old lady, came to the conclusion that we had to make some drastic moves in the market. Certainly with regards to the centre of defence.
I think/hope it’s a good sign that we’ve been able to do transfer business in a short space of time.
Mike Jones
182 Posted 09/08/2018 at 22:57:41
Well done the management team on the football and financial side. Better players than we had, the football side, more money spent than we recouped, the financial side. Love the chief executive’s words; she means business. I expect a tough game at wolves . and I don’t expect to win the league .but 3 more transfer windows like this I expect a team to be proud of.
Tony Abrahams
183 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:02:32
Phil fucking Thompson hates Everton, Mike, and it’s a shame we never started pre-season with this squad, because it’s just possible we might have made this smug red nosed bastard, laugh on the other side of his face?
Steve Ferns
184 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:04:48
Mike, how about this:

1. Silva spent a lot of time with all of the squad, he worked hard and tried to imprint on them all his methods. He trained them hard and they played 6 pre-season games against decent opposition.
2. Not only were results poor, but performances were poor. The players were clearly unable to respond to his methods, which required a higher level of technical ability than most can produce.
3. Moshiri was told this at length, by Brands and Silva. Silva explained what he needed, Brands explained who he can bring in, and how much it would cost, Moshiri accepted that for the Silva gamble to work he would need new players and so sanctioned the spending

It was a clear shift in policy and late in the window, and whilst we clearly tracked a number of these guys for a while, perhaps it was only after making it clear to Moshiri how hard it would be, that he authorised the spending.

John Mckay
185 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:08:33
Seems like Zouma is a done deal now as well but won't be confirmed properly until the morning.

Great additions to the squad.
Also I feel bad besic and bolasie didn't get their moves but they could come in handy at some point during the season if they don't get loaned out.

I'd imagine they could 'loan'besic and bolasie to Boro with a pre agreed contract signed contract that comes into effect on Jan 1st 2019. so technically they can still buy them now but only with a loan agreement added to the beginning.

Good window can't wait now too see Everton, after last season the football life was sucked out of me.


also can't believe spurs didn't sign a single player.

Mike Gaynes
186 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:11:19
Rob #159/#161, I haven't the slightest idea what that means, but congratulations anyway.
Mike Gaynes
187 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:17:05
Jay #176 and Steve #184, spot on.

Rob #154, because three other factors figured in -- the player, the other club, and the fact that Silva really didn't know until recently exactly what he needed.

And regarding this:

"Bit of a daft wobble, losing two wickets with just 20-odd to get, but a breeze in the end. Makes up for the soft buggers losing 3 wickets and scoring 1 run in the final over against Durham when needing just six from the over, earlier in the week."

All I understood from that was "earlier in the week" but it sounds enthralling.

Rob Halligan
188 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:18:29
LOL Mike. I'll explain it to you when you're over in December. Trying to explain cricket to a yank is probably like trying to explain the offside law to a woman.
Mike Gaynes
189 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:21:01
Rob, it's gotta be easier for you to tell me about cricket than for me to tell you about baseball. The infield fly rule alone causes people to have strokes.
Neil Copeland
190 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:22:07
Mike, basically it means we twatted them!
Mike Galley
191 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:23:12
Tony 183, I live in Kirkby and now Phil Thompson vaguely and his brother, Owen, very well. If you think he hates EFC based on what you see on sky, you should meet him in person.
Jeez, I think he hates Everton more than I hate Liverpool, and believe me, that’s quite a statement!!!
Rob Halligan
192 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:24:20
If I told you some of the fielding positions in cricket, Mike, such as silly mid on, silly mid off, gully, third man etc, I think you'd shoot me before I could explain.
Jack Convery
193 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:24:41
Rob 188 - sounds like you have been taking lessons off one Boris Johnson, on how to win friends and influence people.

Off topic I know - but can anyone think of a formation we can't play with the players we now have ?

Mike Gaynes
194 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:27:17
Neil, is that legal in England?
Mike Gaynes
195 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:27:53
I think it's a felony here.
Mike Galley
196 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:29:35
Steve 184
If that comment is aimed at me, I probably haven’t expressed myself very well as I happen to agree with everything you say. If it wasn’t, I apologise and hope you accept my excuse of having more than a couple of drinks for my misunderstanding!
Mike Gaynes
197 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:30:34
Rob #192, don't tell me. I'm still recovering from finding out that rugby sides include tight-head props and hookers, which in some neighborhoods in San Francisco would get you invited to very strange parties.
Neil Copeland
198 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:30:40
The last few days have resulted in the best TW threads I have read do well done to all and thanks for fantastic entertainment.

Can’t wait for the season to start and the team to take shape and hopefully gel. Not expecting miracles but very optimistic.

As others have said, huge credit to Marcel and Marco for putting together a plan and sticking to it. I think Mr Moshiri deserves a special thanks for making it all happen.

Now back down to earth and hoping the optimism is not misplaced, we will need to be patient though.

Finally, last word to Steve Ferns, we don’t know each other but I hope tomorrow goes as well as can be expected. Stay positive and remember all the good times with your dad.

Steve Ferns
199 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:32:41
Yes Mike, I was just expanding on what you were saying with a theory of my own.
Neil Copeland
200 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:35:13
Mike 194/195 - haha, nice one
Neil Copeland
201 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:35:13
Mike 194/195 - haha, nice one
Tony Abrahams
202 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:50:38
That’s not some statement Mike, it’s just the truth. He loves Liverpool, he hates Everton, you love Everton, and fucking hate Liverpool.

They sing a song about conquering Europe, I have got my own version, of how they got us banned from Europe.

Driving past Goodison today, and I saw a big advertisement on one of the billboards outside, with a picture of Gareth Bale, doing a scissor kick. I just need to get some paint and a big set of ladders now, and write “GET IN YER FUCKING BEAUTY” right in the middle of it, and see how many smug Liverpudlians, would see the funny side of that?

Ed Prytherch
203 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:52:11
Our opponents will be trying tto figure out how to mark 6"5" and 6'3" at corners and free kicks. Siggy will love it.
As one of the many who want Schneiderlin on the bench, I wonder if Siggy can play the deep role and let the new boys play ahead of him?
Neil Copeland
204 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:54:08
Tony 202, I’ve got ladders on my van, just need the paint
Tony Abrahams
205 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:55:31
What time are you free tomorrow mate, COD this is gonna be priceless this mate?
Neil Copeland
206 Posted 09/08/2018 at 23:57:41
We will both get locked up but got to be worth it
Mike Corcoran
207 Posted 09/08/2018 at 00:06:41
Thompson’s face lives in Kirkby, his nose has its owns flat in Ormskirk
Tony Abrahams
208 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:07:32
What colour paint do you reckon Neil? And if you give me a time, I will meet you outside the ticket office on bullens Rd, because this billboard is just round the corner on Walton lane.

Once you give me a time then Michael or Lyndon can delete these posts, because they can be bad snitches these kopites.

Lenny Jameson
209 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:09:26
Mr. Abrahams and others.
I hate Thompson with a passion. When he broke into their team in the 70's, in every derby, home and away, he'd walk towards our end at half time and full time and give the "wankers" sign.
They'd beat us 4-0 and he'd still do it. The classless bastard.
I was with Mick Lyons one night and he introduced me to him. I totally blanked him and turned my back on him. But that's another story. He's a gobshite of the highest order.
Tony Abrahams
210 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:15:37
That's always been my argument Lenny, they fucking hate us, but are great at switching the gear. Only Joe Royle has given us any rest bite over the last thirty years, but I'm hoping the tide is going to turn soon.

Sure they have got a good team, but this window has given us hope, and especially since the news the other day regarding Usmanov? Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but there seems to be something different in the air right now at Everton FC?

Lenny Jameson
211 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:25:22
I hope you're right.
They give the impression that if they can't win something, they want us to. Bollocks! When we did start winning again in the 80's, they hated it. They got us banned from Europe and gloat about it.
Anything that we get that they haven't got, they want stopped. The protests about the new ground.
Wait and see what happens if Usmanov does come. They'll want him thrown out of the country!
Let's hope that this is the start
Rob Halligan
212 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:38:28
Lenny and Tony. I was told a story a few years back by someone I know who is an avid red. This person was involved in some fund raising activity and knew Thompson. He asked Thompson if he could get a signed Liverpool shirt to raffle. Thompson said "sure, meet me outside the players entrance at the next home game, and I'll sort it for you"

The next home game, the person I know met Thompson, expecting to be given a signed shirt. To his horror Thompson said "go to the club shop and buy a shirt, and I'll get it signed for you".

Thompson was told to "Fuck right off"

Nicholas Ryan
213 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:41:13
For once, we can say 'Onwards and Upwards...' without the slightest hint of irony or humour!!
Si Cooper
214 Posted 09/08/2018 at 00:45:33
Great transfer window on the face of it. It will be very interesting to see how the manager chooses to introduce / integrate the various new faces with those he has retained.
Not sure why people are particularly bothered about clearing out more ‘deadwood’ as soon as possible. I’m sure Brands will have any essential outgoings all set up for January.
Also some strange murmurings about deals not being completed earlier. Surely the newly arrived manager and DoF, short transfer window, World Cup in July and competing for players who were on various heavyweight clubs’ ‘possibles’ list is more than enough to account for that. I expect things will be much more slick in future transfer windows.
I think the late deals add to the excitement (better if they come off though!). I thought it was Jamie Crowley who was chuffed with the thought of Richarlison, Digne and Mina being the only incomings a few days ago and now he’s hyper at the thought that the Zouma deal may not have been completed in time :).(Sorry if that wasn’t you Jamie).
Best wishes to the Ferns family for their solemn (but celebratory) occasion later today.
Lenny Jameson
215 Posted 10/08/2018 at 00:47:55
I believe it.
There's loads of stories about what a complete prick he is. The one where he ran away from Ian Snodin is a cracker. Its too long to tell here but if you ever see Snodin at Goodison, ask him to tell you. It proves everything about him and is really funny.
Victor Yu
216 Posted 10/08/2018 at 02:59:07
I hope it goes through.

Too bad we didn't get Rojo too. He would have been an excellent backup to both LB and CB.

David Barks
217 Posted 10/08/2018 at 03:11:51

in what way would spending 30 million pounds on Rojo to be a back up be a good idea, given that we already have Baines to back up at LB and will have Holgate, Keane and Jagielka in reserve for CB? The point with every purchase this window was to buy first team quality, not wasted numbers.

Victor Yu
218 Posted 10/08/2018 at 03:35:30
We are phasing out Baines and Jags. Rojo would have been here for 5 years at his prime. Silva always wants two players for each position. Rojo has his limitations but he is much better than Jags at this stage.
Davie Turner
219 Posted 10/08/2018 at 03:47:18
Think we dodged a bullet with Rojo, if there was any truth in the rumour in the first place. We still have some good young players coming through and, at £30mil, it's a top price that you'd never get back.

Hopefully Keane will improve under Silva too, there is a decent player there.

David Barks
220 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:12:20

In what world does it make sense to spend £30 million on a reserve player at the end of his prime with no sell on value? You buy players that you intend to be in the starting 11, pushing those around them to fight for their place. Not someone with the thought of being a reserve player.

We bought Mina to be in the starting 11 and have presumably bought Zouma to fight for a spot in the starting 11. Keane and Holgate will now have to fight to try to claim one of those spots once the new guys get settled into the team. Why would you add Rojo to those in the second team for £30 million?

Jamie Crowley
221 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:23:16
Si @ 214 -

That was defo me.

I honestly thought it was a very, very good window with the three signings of Rich, Digne, and Mina. I mean seriously that's a damn good window. It's not an easy thing (I imagine having never been in the position myself) to sign quality players in three key positions.

To get in Zouma I'll be absolutely flummoxed and over the moon.

And... you forgot the best signing – Bernard! I think that kid is going to light it up.

It's been a great, great window. Things may go south – that's life. But at this snapshot in time I'm not sure what the hell else Sir Marcel Brands and Co could have done?

I think time will show this was the best transfer window for Everton possibly ever. It pips the Barry - McCarthy - Lukaku window on the surface!

Again time will tell. Let's get Zouma across the line and dream of dizzying heights again.

Good freaking day to be Blue! I am hyper right now. We've hit a home run this window. The future is looking very bright.

Over to Mr Silva. We're about to see how good a manager he is. He's got talent, and an exciting team on paper. But the games aren't played on paper, as the saying goes.

Jamie Crowley
222 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:28:02
A bit of a puke-fest here by me but one more thing, with apologies.

I loved watching Roberto's team in the first season attack. Oviedo netting that goal at Old Trafford - a LB would have NEVER been in that position under Moyes. We attacked. We were an offensive team with skill.

We have here, now, the makings of a really, really fun exciting team that will break at pace and look to barnstorm the opposition.

The great thing about it, and this is admittedly hope personified, is we have a coach who wants to play a brand of football I thoroughly enjoy and attack, without seemingly neglecting the defensive side of the game.

This is a big moment for Everton. We have the makings of something special brewing.

Paul Kelly
223 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:42:50
I can see it taking a few weeks for the team to gel, but when it does, exciting times ahead, I believe.
Derek Taylor
224 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:46:44
Last year, an obsession with No 10s; this time it's central defenders!

I ask once again — Who is going to score the fecking goals???

Jamie Crowley
225 Posted 10/08/2018 at 04:54:28
Derek -

Rich, Theo, Tosun, Bernard, Siggy.

I don't think goals will be our problem. The system of bombing forward and leaving our CBs completely exposed at times might be.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe you'll see a flaccid Everton in 2018-19.

We might see a bit of retro-Martinez "we leak too many goals" however.

It's a project. We've taken a big step forward to gel a team that can compete. Patience. We might need to improve our goal scoring ability. But we're moving in the right direction.

Look at it this way, it's not an Allardyce team! We'll create chances! We may need a talented finisher in the future admittedly, but we're taking the proper steps currently to improve.

David Barks
226 Posted 10/08/2018 at 05:10:14

How is us signing two CBs to replace the departed Williams and past it Jagielka, an unnecessary obsession? That positions was a massive need, along with LB. we addressed all of them. Whether that all succeed is never a guarantee. But it has no resemblance to last year.

As Jamie says, we have an abundance of attacking players that should make us a threat. This is not to compare Richarlison to Ronaldo, but Christiano Ronaldo has never been a striker. Hasn’t hurt his goals.

It’s not about having a single goal threat up top, you need full team. I would imagine that the management will be spending this year scouting for a top quality striker for next year while seeing how these attacking players work together. But to ask where the goals are going to come from? All over, including Tosun, I would imagine.

Jamie Crowley
227 Posted 10/08/2018 at 05:21:03
Derek -

Another way of looking at the goal scoring conundrum.

We have two speedy, tricky fuckers in Bernard and Rich. They will draw more free kicks after being hacked down than you or I can imagine.

Up steps Sigurdsson for the free kick, finding Mina's or Zouma's head.

That's a viable goal scoring threat and I think that scenario will happen a lot.

It helps to have a prolific striker. To argue against that statement is asinine. But goals can be scored in other ways.

And we have a formula for that with this squad. We'll draw a lot of free kicks I think. With Zouma on board we'll have two gigantic CBs forward for free kicks and corners.

Bob Butchard
228 Posted 10/08/2018 at 05:49:34
Any truth in the whisper that it took so long to sort Mina's contract out 'cos Bill thought they were buying a small car?
Mike Gaynes
229 Posted 10/08/2018 at 06:02:53

Bernard and Theo are not going to score goals very often. You are much closer to the mark when you point to our CBs scoring off the free kicks Bernard and Richarlison will earn. And the goals will come.


However, I expect Derek's concern to be borne out in the early games. With a new manager, a new system and so many new parts to integrate, I don't think we'll score much for the first few weeks. And I expect to hear lots and lots of wailing from the impatient.

The good thing is that only one of our first nine league games will be against a Top 6 side (Arsenal away on 23 Sept). That'll give us time to get our shit sorted out before we start punching with the big boys. And I think it'll take every one of those nine games to sort it.

Jamie Crowley
230 Posted 10/08/2018 at 06:09:02
I can't argue with that Mike. Fair point(s).

I will say Theo and Bernard will create chances.

And it is fortuitous we have no top 6 sides to get our shit together!

But it's still very exciting and very positive at the moment.

Check this out, it's pretty spot on:


David Barks
231 Posted 10/08/2018 at 06:22:37
I would actually expect Theo to be scoring some goals. Otherwise I could see him lose his spot. It was only a season ago he had 10 goals for Arsenal. That was preceded by four seasons of 5 goals a year, so low, but they were also injury hit years. The year before that he scored 14 goals. I don’t see why, if he is a regular starter, that we shouldn’t expect around 10 goals from Walcott.
Mike Gaynes
232 Posted 10/08/2018 at 07:54:51
David, he's 29, he's had eight major injuries, and except for two seasons ago (when he actually had 19 in 37 including Cup and Champions League games), he's generally been a poor finisher on a percentage basis given the number of chances he got.

10 goals this season would be splendid. I do not expect it.

Andy Williams
233 Posted 10/08/2018 at 08:22:34
Derek I think you will be pleasantly surprised by how many goals Tosun will score. I think with pace and movement around him he will thrive. I think he is the most technically gifted striker we have had for many many years and he can finish. I predict 20 plus goals for him. Combined with the goals from all round the park we will be fine.
Will Mabon
234 Posted 10/08/2018 at 08:25:31
Andy - more technical ability than Lukaku?
Dave Speed
235 Posted 10/08/2018 at 08:46:21
Phil Thompson was so good at defending that he invented the 'professional foul' in the League Cup Final replay against Notts Forest in '78 I think. He fouled Birtles I think again (CBA googling it) outside the box and a penalty was given. He's been even more bitter ever since. He's so bitter that he eats jalopinos to make him smile.
Tony Abrahams
236 Posted 10/08/2018 at 08:47:25
More gifted at bringing others into the game hopefully, Will?

Anyway I've got loads of white paint in the shed, and I'm free from eleven, so if anyone has got ladders and is prepared to help me with my project, just give me a time and I will see you by the Bullens Road ticket office.

Andrew Ellams
237 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:04:09
Tosun is a finisher no doubt about it. Given the right service he will have a good season. Don't expect too much creativity from Richarlason or Walcott, they are more direct than that and bring pace that stretches teams.

The creativity and craft will come from the likes of Sigurdsson, Bernard and Gomes. The overall impact of this transfer window is a more positive attacking one but if Zouma does come in it will go a long way to fixing the issues at the back too.

Mike Benjamin
238 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:08:38
Sorry if this has already been covered but Zouma was our Plan B. There was an agreement to buy Rojo but Manure would only let him go if they signed a CB. We were always, therefore going to sign at least one.

The club should be congratulated for the organisation to have 3 sets of deals on the go at the same time in 3 different locations – Finch Farm, Barcelona and London. If Zouma doesn't go through, it is not for the want of trying.

Tony Waring
239 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:25:25
According to the Chelsea News website, he is definitely Goodison bound. Good news!
Dave Abrahams
240 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:28:15
Tony. (236), give me a bell when you are going to Bullens Road, I'll put my feet on the bottom rung to keep them steady,

What a transfer window! Looks great to me. As Tony Curtis said to Sydney Poitier in The Defiant Ones, "I'm going to be Charlie Potatoes" meaning the top dog. This is just the start; when Usmanov puts his money into the club – and he will, one way or the other – us Evertonians are all going to be walking round like "Charlie Potatoes".

Those red bastards won't know what has hit them. Fergie made them paranoid; this will drive them right over the top. Rainhill will be full to the doors with them.

Derek Knox
241 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:29:07
Tony, is he cycling his way up, none of the News Media Centres including SSN have even mentioned it?
Andy Williams
242 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:45:13
Imho yes Will. He's certainly got a far better first touch and as Tony says far more aware of teammates. Some of the interplay that he was involved in against Valencia was very exciting. Obviously he doesn't have the pace of Lukaku but he has far more in his locker than Lukakus stepovers. I think he will be a revelation this season. He was adored by the Turkish supporters and whilst the PL is obviously a step up he now has much better players around him. Getting back to Zouma what time do these people start bloody work?
Tony Abrahams
243 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:45:58
The jobs off Dave, people will be thinking Barry Chuckle, has been re-incarnated if they see you trying to carry a ladder!

Pssss, anyone else is welcome but don’t tell Dave, just keep it quiet, and he won’t hear you cos he’s going deaf..!

Andrew Ellams
244 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:47:09
Andy, if they're going through the list in alphabetical order we may be waiting a while.
Graham Murphy
245 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:47:15
No Zouma on the Chelsea Men's team page as per the link:-


Victor Yu
246 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:48:31
If he were to sign for Man Utd they would have worked overtime to confirm it last night. Just saying...
Kase Chow
247 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:48:54
Mike #238

Spot on mate. Good to see the professioanlism

Aidan Wade
248 Posted 10/08/2018 at 09:56:21
Delay is bizarre - I am imagining that the entire billion-pound EPL enterprise channels it's transfer through some little old lady with arthritic fingers and a 40 kilo typewriter.

"I'm sorry Agnes if you could just - "
"I didn't make exceptions for that rude young Mr. Busby, and I won't for you"

Paul Birmingham
249 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:00:49
Let’s hope Zouma, in. Then the club and the team can do the talking on the pitch. The first time in an eternity we have general strength in depth.

Forget Big Nose, he’s always been an alpha hotel. I recall when he lived near the Valentine in Aintree, years ago. Total head up his own arse.

Time hasn’t changed the smug xxxx.. Ask the Tommy Smith what he thinks of Big Nose.

Now let’s forget the rest and focus in GP, FF and all matters Everton.

Tomorrow is a new dawn of hope for Everton.

Peter Mills
250 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:00:49
The foul by Pinocchio in the League Cup Final replay in 1978 was on John O’Hare. Thompson had the gall to call referee Pat Partridge “a disgrace” for giving it.

Gerald Sinstadt interviewed Peter Taylor, the Notts Forest co-manager, after the match and told him the cameras showed the foul to be outside the box. Taylor replied “Well the cameras will also show who’s got the Cup, won’t they?”.

Wonderful stuff, on a par with looking at Thompson’s mug on Sky after Jags scored his last minute screamer at Anfield.

James Marshall
251 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:04:14
I had a look around the Premier League website (which incidentally is a load of shit). It says this:

Please note that some deals may still be subject to international clearance and the completion of regulatory processes.

I wish Agnes would pull her bloody finger out.

Michael Morgan
252 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:06:38
Graham @245,

He's not on the first team page, he's on there loans page. But he has been on it for a while, way before yesterday, I looked at him on there site when we were first rumoured to be interested him.

William Cartwright
253 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:08:27
Still waiting for the verification of Zouma; fingers crossed. The message from the transfer window are clear;

1. The interest in bringing youth forward is still there, but only if they are good enough. Nothing romantic. Opportunities are there and they can be taken or not. If there is a star player available who can be brought in and is better than the home grown player, then that is just tough shit. No room for sentiment. Keane will be under some pressure to wake up and perform as I believe he can
Kenny, Connolly (I think he is the best of the bunch), Holgate, Davies, Dowell will have opportunities to shine. If they are not bright enough then they will have supporting cast roles for a time and then move on to pastures new.
Given the position we were in just before Allardyce left, whisperings of Wilshire and a comprehensive development plan in place to go forward under his control, compared to where we stand now, no wonder his pundit mutterings are an embarrassment. I can't think why he is even given airtime. Thankyou Mr. M.
The media's shockingly patronizing, no, lets be more honest . . . . . bloody insulting comments regarding buying our way out of trouble and living beyond our means are an indication of the seriously good business we might have done., and how it might upset their cosy aspirations for a top 6 tournament at the expense of everyone else.
All teams with the exception of the Spuds, have strengthened considerably from where they stood last season. If Mourihno mind games don't work, I can see Manure and Spuds falling down the pecking order, with City, Chelski, Arsenal and ( the Redshites) consoliating the top 4.
We will be knocking on the door of the Big Six together with Wolves (absolutely terrific manager), Leicester, and possibly West Ham. They have been thinking big and Pelligrino replacing Moyes was a hard decision for them, but they took it.
I think the game plans for the next few seasons will be performance related, quality incoming and targets achieved or not. But I suspect we will be seen as upwardly mobile by most rational unbiased observers.
8. Last point for me is what is the scenario around Lookman? I think he will move on considering the Point 2 above . . . . . But who knows? It might be that MM are trying to play hard ball and see where it gets them, at least up until Christmas. He might see the sudden uplift in quality of playing personnel as a motivation or be intimidated / frustrated by the challenge.

Footnote; Superbly well done M+M+M. If we don't progress this season we have no -one to blame but ourselves. COYB!

Derek Taylor
254 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:08:48
What is the deadline for declaring the Club's 25 man squad ? 24 hours before tomorrow's kick-off ?

Correction to William`s closing statement in post above. It should read :-

`If we don`t move on we have no one to blame but M+M+M `. WE had nothing to do with it !

Graham Murphy
255 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:15:55
James @ 251

The problem is where her finger is!!!

Andy Williams
256 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:18:50
On another note just read that our net spend over the past 3 windows is £113 million. Considering the amount of players we have had to replace and the sums involved in this era I don't think that is too shabby. And we still have a few players that are surplus to requirements that could fetch a few Bob.
Rob Halligan
257 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:20:02
James 251. Maybe Agnes has had trouble with her colostomy bag this morning, her chairlift has broke, she couldn't find her bus pass and her zimmer frame has lost a wheel. 😂😂😂
Rob Halligan
258 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:22:03
Stair lift even.😠😠
Craig Walker
259 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:23:58
Really pleased with this window and yesterday was one of the most surprising and exciting deadline days we've had.

Last season has taught me not to get too carried away though. We've all seen promising signings turn out to be flops at Goodison. I remember thinking Keane, Klaasen and Sandro would be superb signings. How wrong can you be? A few fellow Blues are saying "bring on the derby" but, unfortunately, they are in a different league to us still. I seriously think that lot are in with a good chance of winning the Premier League this season. Let's hope not.

Honestly not sure what I would call a successful season for us. We need to be top 7 with some good cup runs and playing some entertaining football. That would do me. I still think the usual top 6 will be better than us and teams like West Ham, Leicester and Burnley will be around us. I think the weaker teams will be stronger this season e.g. Fulham and Wolves and we will need to vastly improve our away record if we want to have a good season. I'm not confident about tomorrow's game but then think we'll start to pick up points.

Len Hawkins
260 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:41:09
Some great posts on here, I hate Thomson and I had to laugh when someone said ask Tommy Smith about him. I read that Smith hated Emlyn Hughes with a passion perhaps he hated everyone he played with he could almost be an Evertonian lol.

Re the Cricket this link is funny https://www.ebid.net/forums/showthread.php?151386-The-rules-of-Cricket-Explained-to-a-foreinger-(Funny)

Andrew Ellams
261 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:42:19
Good analysis Craig. If we are to make top 6 this year somebody will need to have a shocker. But if this season is to be a success we will need to make a dent in the gap.
Daniel Lim
262 Posted 10/08/2018 at 10:42:22
Another 80 minutes before the “Friday morning” ends...
I’m bored already waiting for that confirmation. LOL, more like I’m greedy...
Derek Knox
263 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:10:14
Official Secrets have been released quicker than this, cor blimey guv, he is realistically the only one of the new signings (Richie and Digne excepted) who could possibly get on the bench.

I did hear that Agnes retired last week, and her younger cousin (by two months) had nepotistically taken her job, maybe that is where the 'hold up' is, in releasing the news.

James Marshall
264 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:13:01
Agnes in hold-ups.

I for one am excited.

Ray Roche
265 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:15:01
Craig @259,

I think Spurs will not be quite as good as last season. Okay, they have the same players but everyone else, including us, have improved their squads. And they'll have a new stadium to get used to. That didn't do West Ham any good, did it?

Burnley have the added distraction of Europa League and are hardly any stronger than last season and West Ham have a lot of players who need to gel, just like us. Same goes for Fulham and the stronger Wolves side.

It'll be a new deal for these two teams and, after the initial euphoria, we may see them brought down to Earth, who knows? Southampton are treading water and look weaker than last season. Are Arsenal a shoo-in for top 4? I don't think so. All to play for, as they say.

James Marshall
266 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:18:31
The Independent understands that Everton are confident that they have already done enough to sign Kurt Zouma on loan for the rest of the season.

Both Everton and Chelsea submitted deal sheets last night before the 5.00pm deadline, and although they have been forced to wait for the green light, Everton believe that Zouma will become their latest signing later today.
Alan J Thompson
267 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:23:46
There isn't half a lot of rubbish on here, I mean, have we really got enough fax paper to see this deal over the line and Lancs v York is not a derby, it's a Roses match. And if you don't have the education to understand that, then don't even think about the Duchy of Lancaster.
Andrew Ellams
268 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:25:18
Blimey Alan. Wrong side of the bed this morning?
Michael Lynch
269 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:26:16
Do we have pictures of Agnes in hold ups?
Michael Lynch
270 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:28:14
I've proper had my bubble burst this morning by Stoke fans telling me how shit Zouma was last season, along with Barca "fans" telling me they're holding street parties to celebrate getting Gomes off their books.

Surely can't be worse than what we already have, but I'm putting my optimism on hold until we're top of the Premier League at Christmas.

Mark Taylor
271 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:30:26
I think this window suggests we face a more competitive Premier League. I can still see Man City and probably Liverpool ahead of the field but behind them, it could be quite a bunfight because I perceive a few of the established 'top teams' may come under pressure while the 'lesser' teams – us included – may well close the gap.

Of the other top teams:

Man Utd: Bad transfer window, signs of player unrest and the loose cannon that is Mourinho who seems increasingly isolated from his executive. Potential for an implosion.

Spurs: No business at all. Stability might sound appealing but if you're not improving, you're falling backwards. Also have had quite a few players involved in the World Cup which can hurt a club's chances in the following season.

Chelsea: Jorginho is a good signing but they've changed a proven, class goalie for an unproven one, have a big weakness at cetre-forward, a couple of unsettled big players, and they have an owner facing some difficulties around the clampdown on Russian billionaires.

Arsenal: Probably have done best out of this group, some astute signings, a good manager but first season after a legend may be a challenge.

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that we could seriously challenge at least two of the above. Problem is, our own position as next best is also threatened. There's still Burnley, though I believe they will slide down a bit this year, you have West Ham spending big, Leicester adding some quality and the newly promoted teams like Fulham and Wolves looking less like cannon fodder, more like legitimate contenders for 'best of the rest'. I wouldn't be surprised if there is quite a competitive battle for places between say 4 and 10.

We've had a good window, though I think the battle is always to try and integrate so many new players. I hope we get Zouma. Keane and Holgate will do as back up but we have lost two centre-backs so we need two in.

Paul Smith
272 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:42:58
The few times I watched Stoke last season, Zouma was awful...
Si Pulford
273 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:44:12
Looks like Zouma will be rectified today. Made up. He offers Premier League experience and although unspectacular is a safe bet if there is such a thing.

On a separate note. I was in the new offices at the Liver Building last night. Wow. What a statement of intent. There is genuine cause for optimism at Everton. No other club probably in world football can boast a facility quite like it. The views are incredible and the imagination and ambition of the build is awesome.

Add Bramley-Moore Dock stadium and the statement of intent of the last day of the transfer window and I think there is definite cause for optimism. It won't happen overnight but there seems a genuine (and achievable) ambition to make Everton a force again. If the offices are anything to go by it doesn't look like money will be an issue either-read into that what you will.

The building blocks are being laid now to take this club forward in a way that Kenwright and Elstone could never have imagined.

Geoff Lambert
274 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:45:43
Would you swap Funes Mori and Williams for Zouma and Mina?

Think that would be a yes for me, I did quite like Funes Mori though.

James Marshall
275 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:45:59
His YouTube highlights from last season are brilliant.

Which means everything, obviously.

Mark Taylor
276 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:49:14

I'd swap Williams and Funes Mori for one of them...

Dave Speed
277 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:49:54
Agnes is just knitting the last line of the contract and just needs to tie it off and check for dropped stitches. With her arthritic fingers...

Meanwhile, the FA have also allocated the Road Runner to investigate any suspected wrongdoings by Everton this year, taking over from Speedy Gonzales (no relation to me). Beep Beep

Finally I'd swap Williams and Funes Mori for a sweet cigarette card of Terry Darracot and some ollies. Yes I'm that age.

Graham Murphy
278 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:52:33
Only Everton could get a player on-board after the deadline has passed! No other team are waiting on anything!
Craig Walker
279 Posted 10/08/2018 at 11:54:01
Ray@265 - All good points Ray. This is Everton though. How long before we're posting on these very pages going "Schneiderlin is shit. Keane is shit. Davies is shit. Calvert-Lewin is shit. Niasse is shit. Sigurdsson is...' ?
Dermot Byrne
280 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:01:16
Graham #278.

Maybe, just maybe, we sort this after the deadline and, considering other players we got, that seem to fill the gaps most of us identified, then just maybe we are taking a big step forward?

Live the dream mate and worry about disappointment another day... maybe tomorrow!

Phil Sammon
281 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:02:37
Loans worry me. Even the Mina deal is a loan, of sorts. He plays well and he’s a goner. Barca showed with Geri that they will buy a player back even when he’s not going to get a game.

There you go. A negative spin for you.

Rob Halligan
282 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:18:55
Alan 267, blimey mate, we all know Lancashire v Yorkshire is known as the Roses Match, but try explaining that to Mike Gaynes. The easiest way was to call it a derby match for him. Think you need to take a chill pill mate.
Jack Convery
283 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:24:56
I am assuming they are waiting for him to turn up at Finch Farm for the reveal video to be made – surely if it had fallen through, we would know by now. I can see it now – Meet Kurt! He hates CFs and the RS even more!!
Mike Doyle
284 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:25:05
Michael #270.

Many years ago I remember a Bolton fan expressing disbelief that we'd paid a fee to take "once good – but now crocked" Peter Reid.

More recently, a couple of Chelsea fans I work with asking what possessed Klopp to spend £35m+ on their bang average squad player, Mo Salah.

Si Pulford
285 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:30:36
Mike Doyle great point. Most people on here had never heard of Yerry Mina until the World Cup, myself included. But he played well. He also played well enough the previous season for Barcelona to bring him in. As did Gomes.

However the professional scouts on ToffeeWeb (there's loads of em) have decided they're not good enough for ‘Eighth place, no Europe Everton'. You couldn't make it up.

Alex Mullan
286 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:33:37
Apparently the deal is in doubt because the Finch Farm dial up TalkTalk connection went down at 4:59pm.
Rob Halligan
287 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:34:16
Mike 284. I also remember a certain Howard Kendall signing an "over the hill" Paul Power from Man City. He just also happened to go on and win a league championship with us.
Graham Murphy
288 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:35:23
I thought the club had sent the info via telegraph?
Michael Lynch
289 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:39:02
Mike Doyle

You're right. Haters gonna hate, as the kidz say these days.

Michael Lynch
290 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:45:05
Mike @284 and Si @285

To be fair though, Gomes himself admits he's had a 'mare at Barca. There are plenty of interviews online with the fella himself saying as much. He may well come good at Everton, let's hope so, but you won't find a Barca fan who is sad to see him go.

And I think there are enough posts on here about how people would carry Barkley, Klaassen or Mirallas on their shoulders to get rid of them to another club for us to know that footballers, even expensive ones, can be a bit shit but still manage to get a transfer to a decent club.

Mark Taylor
291 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:48:07
Agnes says she may have thrown that deal sheet in the bin by mistake, along with her egg sandwich wrapper...
Matt Muzi
292 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:49:28
With it taking so long for any confirmation, I think it could be the Premier League won't ratify the deal.
Stephen Davies
293 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:55:11
It's done. Option to buy in January or the summer.
Mike Benjamin
294 Posted 10/08/2018 at 12:55:55
Silva's press conference has been put back 30 mins so it may be something will be announced then. Don't panic – this is the new Everton.
Jon Hirshman
295 Posted 10/08/2018 at 13:04:10
Graham at 278, not only Everton. Sky Sports was reporting last night that there were at least 10 deals (not different clubs) also put in Agnes deal sheets. The Ings deal with Southampton didn't get confirmed until much later.
Karl Meighan
296 Posted 10/08/2018 at 13:07:11
Be nice to get Zouma to add competition for places if nothing else. I've not seen a lot of him but players perform differently at different Clubs even if he didn't perform at Stoke who had a dodgy dressing room if reports are to be believed.

All the players signed have pedigree; let's hope Silva can bring their best out and get us moving in the right direction whilst playing some good stuff.

Derek Taylor
297 Posted 10/08/2018 at 13:40:59
Can I suggest that the cynicism displayed by some of our number is fuelled by the lack-lustre performances of certain other 'worldies' brought in such as Schneiderlin, Sandro and Klaassen.?

'Just because they played for xxxxxx doesn't mean' etc.

Graham Murphy
298 Posted 10/08/2018 at 13:47:50
Silva has just said that the Zouma deal is nearly done.
Graham Murphy
299 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:02:09
The BBC seem to have changed the time of our match tomorrow on the Football main page:-

'Everybody knows our goal'
Wolves v Everton (Sat, 15:00 BST)

Jamie Crowley
300 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:07:07

I just woke and logged on - still no word.

This is comical now.

How many bureaucrats at the League Office does it take to ratify a loan?

Andy Williams
301 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:10:01
I believe the contract is being written on freshly prepared vellum - the calf had to be killed and the skin ' cured'. It is being written in cochineal ink made from freshly caught beetles. Obviously this will take a little time.
Jim Burns
302 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:10:09
Marco's press conference just now - deal almost done but no option to buy.
Andrew Ellams
303 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:11:46
I said earlier, they're going through the list alphabetically
James Marshall
304 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:16:06
"It's almost done, not official but almost," the Everton boss said. "We'll wait for a few hours and see what we'll do but it's almost done.

"I don't want to talk only about him because the market is the market. When you start to bring in some new players you want to strengthen the squad.

"Of course at his moment it looks stronger but we have to work with all of them and gel everything and put them in our way to adapt them as soon as possible."

Len Hawkins
305 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:17:52
Andy #301

They'll have to get in Anfield to get the cockroaches to make the cochineal ink, also they need a plume of a Dodo to make the quill.

Tony Sullivan
306 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:18:03
Dave Speed @277, Hilarious, made me LoL(not sure about the protocal on the upper case) (it's an age thing)
Dave Speed
307 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:35:24
Thanks Tony #306 - recognition at last! I was beginning to think I'd never make it! I did check the copyright details with Warner Brothers and Looney Tunes, and the capitalisation protocol has to be observed, but thanks for letting me know. I'd hate to f**k up on TW, of all places.

I've also just heard that the FA are waiting for the unicorn to cry so they can use the tears to dilute the cochineal ink, as Agnes has an allergy to cockroach-related products apparently.

James Marshall
308 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:39:53
TW has truly been a source of great amusement this week. What a shame the football season is about to start and ruin everything.


Andrew Ellams
309 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:41:56
Dave, there is no way anybody at the PL has any allergy to cockroach related products.
Dave Speed
310 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:48:09
Andrew #309 - Brilliant insight! This has inspired me to share a bit of inside info. I believe that Tottenham Hotspur have been in touch as Yerri Mina still has Harry Kane in his pocket, and they would like him back!
Gary Willock
311 Posted 10/08/2018 at 14:59:28
The all out, lets have some, fun attacking team:

------------ Walcott----Tosun--------------

The 'if we need to be more defensive' team:


Going to be fun season! Off to play fifa….

Andy Williams
312 Posted 10/08/2018 at 15:00:20
Len I believe that they had to wait for the flight from Tromso before they could find anything in Anfield. And Dave they could only get the unicorn tears by poking it's eyes with hen's teeth.
Neil Copeland
313 Posted 10/08/2018 at 15:02:07
I think Agnes has used the last typewriter ribbon with the new delivery not expected to arrive until Monday.
Jason Broome
314 Posted 10/08/2018 at 15:15:07
Gary Willock @311

I wasn't going to buy FIFA 19 this year. Seemed to be a waste of money.

But after Brands' quality signings, the new kit, and the thought of Silva on the touchline punching the air after Bernard scores the Champions League final winner, it looks like EA (for the 3rd year running) are going to make some money out of me!

Andy Williams
315 Posted 10/08/2018 at 15:46:07
Jason I had managed to wean myself off my lad's FIFA but I may be tempted again after this window. The pace! Just need Tosun to get a couple of IFs.
Dave Speed
316 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:02:33
Andy #312 - the hen's teeth always works. Problem is the only qualified minotaur stepped in some rocking-horse shit. He's contacted elf and safety and they're sending Medusa on Pegasus to check it out.
Chris Corn
317 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:02:36
Daniel Lim
318 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:04:48
Finally. Just got a notification from Everton FC app!
Bill Watson
319 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:04:58
Done deal... that was a long two hours!
Ray Said
320 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:05:07
Zouma loan official
Andrew Ellams
321 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:05:29
Finally. Pace and size at the back.
Jay Wood

322 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:06:15
Confirmed it is, Chris, on Everton's official Twitter feed. May have to scroll down to view it.


Phil Smith
323 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:08:11
Yes, official:


Brent Stephens
324 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:09:35
So, all done. Excellent work Everton, excellent. I can't believe there are still tickets on sale for the first home game.
Jay Wood

325 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:09:57
Zouma and Mina are NOT going to be bullied off the ball at the heart of our defence. And both are very vocal lads, too. Pickford will love 'em! Plenty of possible barnies between the 3, in a positive way, with each giving the other their 'frank' opinions.

# 5 shirt for Zouma. There's some heritage in that shirt, Kurt. Wear it with pride and give us performances to match.

By contrast, hasn't Keane himself and Jags his skipper spoken that Keane is simply not the vocal type? I like my CBs with a bit of cussedness about them!

Andy Williams
326 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:15:01
Dave. Praise be to Zeus your final flurry has done the trick. Well done fella.
Rob Halligan
327 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:16:01
Just wait for all the RS now, saying you're not allowed to sign players once the window is closed.
Dave Speed
328 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:18:29
Every trick in the book, Andy. We need to have more twists than a fart in rubber pants to beat these fuckers. Just need to negotiate the games we have to play with what we've already got and then get the new ones in.
Dave Speed
329 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:23:39
For the moaning RS who will kick off over Zouma, remind them that they completed a deal for Anderson Arroyo I think 1 week after the January window closed.
Shaun Laycock
330 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:24:19
Chelsea defender Kurt Zouma has joined Everton on loan until the end of the season... wow, what a window.
Andrew Ellams
331 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:25:33
Odds on who wears the captain's armband now Jagielka is effectively 5th choice?
Andy Williams
332 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:29:39
Dave the thing is we have proper competition for every place now. I can't remember the last time we had that. Nobody can rest on their withered laurels anymore. I can't remember feeling so positive about the squad.
Steve Cotton
333 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:31:44
When's the 3rd kit out???
Julian Wait
334 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:37:25
@Andrew #331 - imo Coleman should be (on field) Team Captain, Pickford as Vice-captain. Jagielka should remain Club Captain, but not assume team captain role if / when he plays.

Andrew Ellams
335 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:39:57
I agree Julian, hope the new gaffer does too. The only alternative I can see is if Baines keeps his place.
Jeff Armstrong
336 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:40:39
How many of the 6 new signings will start tomorrow?

Gomes is injured, Mina was still in Spain as of yesterday, Zouma signed today but not met his new teammates, but hopefully at least on the bench, Bernard,again at least on the bench, Digne, who knows,.. probably bench.

Richarlison is the only definite for me, so a probably a draw to start, then properly start the season next week against Saints.

Derek Knox
337 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:41:28
Welcome eventually Kurt, hope you play like you did in your first season at Chelsea.

I wish we had the option to buy, at the end of the loan, I am not nit-picking but if he is a success with us, we are at the mercy of Chelsea's ransom demands, as what basically happened with Lukaku not so long ago.

I am a lot happier landing him than some of the others we were being allegedly linked with, Rojo, Jones, Smalling and Vida.

Mike Gaynes
338 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:42:30
I think I've only seen him play once. Other than being gigantic and aggressive, can anybody give me a scouting report?
Rob Halligan
339 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:44:00
Good job all round by Marcel Brands.

He can now put his feet up for a couple of weeks before he gets the feelers out again, as no doubt we will need to start searching for another centre-back with Zouma only being a loan deal.

At least we've got 6 to 12 months to find a potential replacement for him.

James Hughes
340 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:44:01
A quick look at the Potters' forum and a very mixed opinion of him. From bang average to very good.

For me I would have stayed clear of him, another player who has experienced relegation, my personal bogeyman. Also no right to buy option if he has a great season. We possibly improve a Chelsea player and then lose him next May. Or the chavs say he's yours at £40m plus.

Ah well let's hope we all have a great season and get 6 points off the RS.

Dennis Heaton
341 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:45:29
Well done, Agnes, your typing speed is really improving now!
Ray Said
342 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:48:16
Mike (338) 'gigantic and aggressive' – don't those words about one of our defenders bring a warm glow?
Mike Gaynes
344 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:50:06
They sure do, Ray, and we now have two of them - Mina is the same.

But it will be nice if Zouma can also tackle, pass and play proper position. Anybody know if he can?

Ray Said
345 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:51:38
Spirit of Shankly are assembling at St George's Hall for a march – apparently we ruined Deadline Day by buying good players?
Dave Speed
346 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:58:19
Andy you're right. It's just that Marco said in the press conference that none of the deadline day gang will play tomorrow (unless he just said that to blindside Wolves).

We hope that those who wear the shirt tomorrow will see that their places are indeed up for grabs, and they play better than their best game.

Frank Crewe
347 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:58:48
So that's Zouma at 6'-3'' and Mina at 6'-4'' with Keane as backup at 6'-3''. That should give us some dominance at the back and real threat at corners and set pieces. With the players to put in accurate crosses.
Tony Sullivan
348 Posted 10/08/2018 at 16:59:22
Dave @277 in your swop for Williams and Funes Mori using ollies, I mean't to ask would you include any Bolley Washers in order to clinch the deal?!!
Jerome Shields
349 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:02:38
Good news.
Jay Wood

350 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:02:57
Mike @ 338: 'can anybody give me a scouting report?'

Check out a couple of videos and make your own assessment Mike.

First, highlights from Stoke's relegation season where he was on loan:


Second, a reel from his Chelsea games:


He looked a tremendous player when he first played for Chelsea, so I don't know why he hasn't cemented his place in the side and keeps getting sent out on loan AFTER they tied him down to a 6-year contract.

The videos for me show the following:

* similar to Mina, a towering presence in the air at both ends of the pitch
* again like Mina, no one is going to easily shrug or bully him off the ball as we've seen with Keane
* he has very good pace. He gives some attackers a yard or two head start and easily reels them back in
* he loves a sliding tackle! His timing of tackles, even in precarious situations in the penalty area, looks very good
* he isn't without guile or technique on the ball, but Mina possibly has the edge on him in this regard
* he also loves - and appears very good at - hitting long crossfield right to left passes which, I fancy, slots in very nicely with how Silva wants to rapidly switch from defence to attack

Finally, in interviews he comes across as a really good lad.

I'm hugely optimistic about all our signings and what Silva can ahieve with them.

Brent Stephens
351 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:03:40
Tony, I've not heard the phrase 'bolly washers' for yonks. No fudging!
Jamie Crowley
352 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:03:45


Thank you God.

We are now absolutely beastly in the back. Two gigantic fucking men who can defend and play.

It'll take a few games, but if we can get our best 11 out on the pitch in 3-4 weeks time, we will scare the bajeezuz out of any opponent.

Roll on tomorrow. This year is gonna be fun.

Paul Birmingham
353 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:05:40
A fine, few days for EFC. We have a maestro in football business in Marcel Brands and the rest of his support team.

Exceeded all expectations, by far.. Now to start playing and winning with style. Hopefully Seamus is made captain, and the new players are eased in.

Tough one tomorrow, as they'll be steaming into us.. but we can get a result, and the Adrenalin of the last few days should see some zip, in those that start.

Happy Days.

Derek Taylor
354 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:08:19
What price Jags and Bainsy starting tomorrow and then, later in the month, going on loan to Championship clubs?

I think Brands will spend much of what's left of August sorting out similar moves for 'the unwanted'!

Paul Kossoff
355 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:09:57
Play all the newbies, it's near a new team, surely top seven expected.
Mark Tanton
356 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:10:16
It’s a shame we can’t hit the ground running with the new signings but hopefully their arrival is a massive kick of the arse for the regulars - although we all doubt they give two fucks.
Dave Speed
357 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:10:51
Tony you got me on the bolley washers. Never heard of them round our way. I would, however, accept steelies, bongoes and cat's eyes.
Mike Gaynes
358 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:12:35
Jay, thanks, I did view the videos, and obviously his power and pace are not in doubt. However, for defenders videos can be particularly misleading. They don't show missed tackles, bad fouls or pens, missed marking assignments or bad passes out of the back. And, as you astutely point out, they don't show why he's not in Chelsea's current plans after having made such a dazzling debut and getting locked in to a long-term contract.

That's why I was hoping for a scouting report from someone who has actually seen him play in London or Stoke, or at least on TV. I've only seen him once that I can recall, and aside from his size he didn't make much of a dent on my memory. He certainly didn't make me say "Wow, I'd love to get that guy in" as Mina did at the World Cup.

Jakub Kollar
359 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:12:49
I opened TW and Klaassen showed up at the top of the webpage. I suddently got scared that the last 48 hours were just a dream.
Jay Wood

361 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:15:10
Mike Gaynes. Another thought just popped into my head which, with your affection for Barcelona, you may be able to answer.

I believe in recent years Everton and Barcelona have built a good relationship. This pre-dates Martinez loaning Deulofeu, then signing him, as Barcelona looked at Everton's Former Players' Foundation and used it as a model for their own lookalike foundation. I think I'm correct in saying that ALL Barcelona players have a clause stating that 1% of their salary must be given to the fund.

My contemporary question on the Everton-Barcelona relationship is more to do with Brands, given we have recruited 3 players from Barcelona this summer.

I know he is hugely respected on the European circuit, but I was wondering if you (or anyone...) is aware if Brands previously established a good working relationship between PSV and Barcelona, and that is now something that Everton can and is benefiting from?

Chris Corn
362 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:15:18
Derek, cant see him loaning Baines out when he said he wants two players for every position. Hopefully Martina will be gone to prevent him ever playing in that position again. Also he's said Mina and Zouma are replacing Funes Mori and Williams so numbers wise we are the same. Holgate isn't fit, so I can't see Jagielka going anywhere in a hurry.
Christopher Timmins
363 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:16:44
A really good window for us, we needed improving in every sector of the field and in my view that's what we have achieved. Most if not all of the acquisitions will be starters.

I expect it will take time for the team to gel but after 8 or 10 games I would hope that things will start to fall into place.

I never like to predict where we will finish but would expect that we will acquire more points than the tally achieved by Keoman in year 1 which should guarantee European football.

In some ways the preseason results may prove to be a blessing as it underlined the need for decisive action.

Andy Walker
364 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:21:56
A superb window. Gone from only maybe Coleman, Pickford, Walcott and Sigurdsson being able to get in a top 6 team squad, to the same PLUS, Bernard, Mina, Zouma, Digne (not sure about Gomes yet).

Hopefully it's the end of Gueye and Davies in midfield (at least after Wolves). Simply not good enough. They maybe ok for the odd game as backup or sub, but not first choice.

We now have a FULL team of half decent players for the first time in about 5 years. Bring it on.

Martin Berry
365 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:27:30
It sends a giant message to those wearing the shirts tomorrow, perform or you will not get back in.

Great for competition, and can only improve the team.

Jamie Crowley
366 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:27:41
With Man U in the middle of the Woodward's an idiot, Mou is a sulker soap-opera, Spurs not making a single signing, and Chelsea a fucking train wreck presently?

Do we dare dream?

I still say 7th, but Hope just entered the room.

I'm giddy.

John Keating
367 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:28:59
Agree with this being a good window and will hopefully restore balance in the team and introduce pace and craft.

Obviously it will take a while to gel everyone in so I don't expect too much in the short term.

As important now is to get rid, hopefully permanently, or on loan in the short term, the dross and deadwood we still have on the books. A few more youngsters out on good loans would round off a good period for the Club.

Now Mr Silva it's over to you to show the confidence Mr Moshiri has shown to you and show us what you can do.

Dave Speed
368 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:29:44
Watched the links provide by Jay Wood (thanks lad). It looks like nobody will be arsing him off the ball, like Jags was for Bury's third goal (sorry Jags, just the most recent example of lack of strength I can recall).

I know the montages only contain the best bits but the basics look fine, i.e. he can tackle, head, shield, chase, turn quickly, intercept and distribute. These used to be on every defender's CV.

Bill Griffiths
369 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:31:58
Rob (#339) hopefully Holgate will have come through by then.
Mike Gaynes
370 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:33:30
Jay #361, there's almost no business history between Barca and Brands when he was at PSV — I seem to recall one transfer years ago. But of course the manager that Brands hired and nurtured and helped build into a success, Phillip Cocu, is a Barca legend.

I assume that if Barca Nation has warm feelings for Brands, they're based on his outspoken loyalty to Cocu. And that combined with his professional reputation and Everton's existing relationship to Barca are no doubt all factors in Barca's brilliant new role as our feeder club. ;-)

Tom Bowers
371 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:33:52
We all have to be cautiously optimistic after these signings.
We have extra strength in defence now and some quality and experience to boost midfield. A good season from Tosun, Richarlison and Walcott could really see us in the top six.

It may take a few games to see any impact these new signings may have so let's not start cheering just yet but it does show a lot of determination by the club and new manager to turn things around finally.

Mike Gaynes
372 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:35:03
Jay, just looked it up on Transfermarkt and confirmed the one transfer... Affelay from PSV to Barca in 2011.
Tony Sullivan
373 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:35:17
Dave, Bollies were big plain glass, maybe your Bongoes. We were rough in Everton! Think the steelies would be a clincher though.
Tony Williams
374 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:36:59
Coleman Keane Mina Digne
Sigurdsson Gueye Bernard
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

I think Keane will come good with someone good by his side.

Mads Kamp
375 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:37:12
I haven't been this excited since 1985 when I fell in love with Everton for the first time.

All credit goes to a Danish bicycle brand named Everton – my brother had a beautiful black one and I was very jealous. One day I discovered that the number 1 English football side had the same name as my brothers bike (how cool is that!!!) – I‘ ve been madly in love ever since!


Amit Vithlani
376 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:40:28
Is Zouma left footed? If so he may be a young Distin in the making.

I thought Sylvain, at his peak, was one of the best defenders ever to pull on a blue jersey. I wished we had signed him a couple of years earlier. I recall at Newcastle when he was a young 'un he did not look totally convincing.

Ray Robinson
377 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:46:48
Tony, I don't normally play team selections but I just did and that is exactly the formation that I came up with. I then calculated who is left and came up with a further eighteen players (without thinking too hard). So, despite the fantastic window, some heavy pruning is still required!

I'd expect Vlasic, Martina, Besic, Bolasie, Dowell and Sandro (is he still with us?) to leave or go out on loan. Otherwise, the squad is unmanageable.

Chris Watts
378 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:48:07
One good thing- although the new lads have come in last minute it’s still mid August so better than previous seasons. Remember last year and sig turned up 5 games into the season with no preseason not match fit. It’s clearly going to take until Christmas for this lot to gel but hopefully zouma is ready to hit the ground running st least
Jeff Hough
379 Posted 10/08/2018 at 17:58:55
Brent at 324, there weren't any on sale apparently but I went to the box office this morning to get a Huddersfield ticket, just got back from holiday, and the girl there told me the club had only just released some tickets for the Southampton game, so I got one of those too. Not sure what goes on with this. They do it at concerts too.
Neil Copeland
380 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:04:42
Better Zouma than later.

It’s alright I already have my coat on.

Lev Vellene
381 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:05:10
At last! Now I'm waiting for Lyndon's long piece on our summer transfer window with bated breath!!!

I know we have to make do with mostly the 'old' team for a while, but knowing these new guys are ready to gently (?) guide the shirkers and the happy-to-be-in-the-team guys across the side line soonish, might actually put a spark in the plodders left...

And PLEASE make Coleman our new team captain!!! We need someone willing and able to both be vocal, and to at least SEEM willing to physically kick the lardasses that need to be kicked during a match!

Jon Atkinson
382 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:05:12
Jeff at 379 perhaps Southampton not sold out their allocation and now these on sale to Evertonians
Brent Stephens
383 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:06:45
Jeff, maybe Southampton couldn't sell all their allocation and the upper bullens has been released.
Dave Speed
384 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:10:29
Tony you might appreciate this. My best mate (was!) had a massive steelie about an inch in diameter. (Sorry I've just been watching Debbie does Dallas). As fair players we always followed the rules, which meant you couldn't touch anyone else's ollie (DDD again) unless you won it. Anyway, my mate flicked his steelie (DDD) and missed, and it headed down the front path. Being the Marquess of Queensbury guy I am, I opened our gate to let it have maximum distance for my shot and it went straight down the grid in the gutter.

As unfortunate as that was, him being the owner of the only casey in the area meant that further misfortune befell him. Someone accidentally kicked his casey into the road and it was destroyed (not just burst) by a bin lorry. It looked like Tarzan's undies as it lay there in the road.

Further events, such as me melting a load of his plastic soldiers with match heads and a magnifying glass, and in adult life screaming "GET IIIIIINNNNNN!!!" as Sharpy scored against Watford in the middle of my Best Man's speech at his wedding, means that we are not in touch any more. And no, I'm not a jinx.

Brent Stephens
385 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:10:37
Jon, stop reading my mind.
Bobby Thomas
386 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:12:05
John #382

I got 3 in the Upper Bullens away section on 26 July. They went on sale to Evertonians that day as Soton haven't taken their allocation.

Darren Murphy
387 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:14:22
Nicely done. As I said before all the panicking we'd sign 3 or 4. That's a good enough window for me.

We bought 500 number tens last season and bought in several new faces and it went tits up but we still finished okay.

Don't forget that lads and lasses.

Other sign of the coin could be we've got the right signings and make a FA cup and League cup assault whilst finishing in European places.

Happy days thank feck. Loving the window and can't wait for tomorrow man. Get in there Blues.

Bobby Mallon
388 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:27:55
Brent Stevens it’s because they are all restricted views, that people should not have to pay the full price for
John Hammond
389 Posted 10/08/2018 at 18:49:48
Great news. Half a cherry on the top. Could have done with a striker. Still... It's turned into a decent window, I'm happy. I fully expect the first couple of months to be bumpy and entertaining at the same time.

These signings should be a massive kick up the arse to the current squad.

Derek Taylor
390 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:05:22
Given the disappointment that was last season, I'm 'curbing my enthusiasm'about this second summer of playing 'SPLASH THE CASH.'

Moshiri seems to have learned nothing from his previous 'Spendfest'with only the identities of those identifying the beneficiaries of his profligacy having changed.

Merely from reading these columns,I learn several of these so-called super-stars have had anything but a settled past but are widely expected to respond immediately to the so-called superior coaching now available to them.

Accepting that the Premier is now a global stage, it would be normal for the majority of signings to be foreigners but wholesale recruitment of non-Brits may well be overkill. Indeed, being brought up in the British Leagues is now a distinct handicap. So much for Unsworth and his charges when it only costs the odd £20M to qualify a player for the roster.

Let's all hope that my natural cynicism is mis-placed but don't bet on it. Indeed a shilling or two in the opposite direction may again be called for.

Chris James
391 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:06:58
Incredible window and however it pans out we need to give credit to the M&Ms for setting out a strategy and seeing through.
We got a chunk of deadwood out (I suspect 1 or 2 more to depart or loan before Euro window shuts at end of month) and we strengthened in Defence and midfield with 6 players, many of whom promise genuine flare and a new way of playing (Bernard. Richarlison, Gomes especially) whilst 3 defenders were definitely needed to bolster an old guard and some younger players lacking confidence.
Not sure if it all come right straight away on the pitch, but a solid start.
Colin Glassar
392 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:21:43
I’m not expecting miracles with so many new players but by December I expect us to be slugging it out with the best.

I have high hopes that Father Christmanov will bring us even more good cheer in the New Year.

Brent Stephens
393 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:27:27
Colin, 1st December would be ideal for being able to slug it out with (can't bring myself to say it).
Steve Hogan
394 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:31:01
Derek (390)

'Moshiri seems to have learned nothing from his previous 'spendfest'...

What exactly do you think he should have done, sat on his hands and done nothing!!! Let's get one thing clear, without Moshiri, this club would be in deep SHIT. Sure he's made mistakes, but he has actually 'put HIS money where his mouth is, nobody else was queing up to buy us that's for sure.

Perhaps you would prefer Boys Pen Bill still to be in charge and continue to hock us up in debt with the aid of his 'pals' in the British Virgin Isles.

God forbid..

Steve Dowdeswell
395 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:32:10
Really pleased about the way this transfer window went and was handled by the new management team.
I reckon we could do with getting rid of at least 2 preferably more of the non-starters. Could this be the end of Jags and Baines in the starting 11?
Yes it is going take a few weeks for the new signings to bed in before they got the ground running but starting to get just a little bit excited about this new era in our history.
Darren Murphy
396 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:37:10
I'm expecting one more player in January. A decent striker partner for Tosun if needed. Definitely a sub.

Hopefully we'll score goals. I'm going to say Bernard is going to be a fucking beast although a lil man.

Karl Meighan
397 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:52:12
Im not giving up on Baines just yet these new players hopefully will show there skills and quality and it might bring out the best in him.

We have depended on are 2 fullbacks as a attacking threat for far to long so hopefully both Baines and Coleman will thrive and I wouldn't swap either for many in the Prem.

Marcus Leigh
398 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:54:56
Unlike this time this year, I actually believe there's a coherent strategy in place here to get rid of wage-sapping deadwood, bring in players in positions that need reinforcing and create the basis of a squad that will, as the season progresses, hopefully start playing some proper football and once again make us proud to be Blues.

This is a springboard for Silva to demonstrate just what his perceived potential can deliver. Whether he can do that or not obviously remains to be seen. But I admire Moshiri's faith in the M&M combo and his willingness to bankroll a vision which is neither in the muddled, incoherent, 'I couldn't care less about Everton as this is just a stepping stone to the Barca job' Koeman vein, or the turgid, soul-destroying uninspiring crap which Fat Sam served up.

Yes, this has indeed been another 'spendfest'. But surely rather that than the no funds, no hope, no idea what's going on ethos of so, so many previous years.

Derek Knox
399 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:58:03
Derek @390, you mention about the British youngsters, admittedly we didn't bring any in this window, but I assume they tried for Lascelles and were rebuffed, along with many others possibly.

You have to remember that Marco Silva has 'inherited' a 'train crash' by virtue of Koeman/Walsh's illogical forays into the Transfer Market.

Rather than possibly be escaping relegation come the end of the season, he had to re-enforce the squad.

As for our own youngsters, it cannot be said that he didn't give them every chance to show their worth in pre-season, only Connolly and to a lesser degree Dowell, showed brief glimpses of their potential, but at the same time showing they are not ready for a Prem season.

Tom McEwan
400 Posted 10/08/2018 at 19:58:44
Derek Taylor @390 I beg your pardon? How very dare you, how very dare you! Just because virtually every single person on these threads have completely forgotten last year's fiasco and are acting like we have one hand on the Champions League Trophy, you take it upon yourself to remind us all of FACTS? Well, I find you impertinent come on Leonard
Derek Taylor
401 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:00:51
Steve @394.My point -that you seem to have missed - is that none of them can have been actively SCOUTED by M &M but rather TOUTED by agents as the answer to their prayers once so-called bigger clubs had turned them down.

Last year we got foreign rubbish -what's to say it's not the same again !

Tom McEwan
402 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:11:37
Derek Knox @399 you, 'assume they tried for Lascelles and were rebuffed, along with many others, possibly'. Difficult to argue against that except maybe, the words 'assume' and 'possibly'?
Paul Hay
403 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:32:06
We can't deny the commitment shown here by Mr.Moshiri.
Thanks Mr. Moshiri and well done to all who negotiated so well in this window.
Christy Ring
404 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:36:51
Delighted to see Zouma coming in, a solid centreback with pace and height. We don't know how Mina, Bernard and Gomes will do, I like Digne, but Silva and Brands have brought in players for problem positions, and give us balance, unlike Koeman/Walsh, who last summer signed 3 no.10's, no striker and no left back.
Jeff Hough
405 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:46:37
Jon & Brent, I know that often happens when away fans don't take their full allocation but my ticket is for the Main Stand.
I presume that some corporate geezers have not taken their tickets up which is why some have been released.
Jay Wood

406 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:53:29
Derek Taylor and Tom McEwan.

It is true of any incoming player or manager that, no matter their age, ability, potential or previous history, no one - no one at all - comes with gilt-edged guarantees that they can be a success on arrival at Everton.

Conversely, because previous trumpeted signings failed to live up to their hype doesn't mean you can derive from that with any degree of certainty as both of you attempt to imply that THIS year's recruits will follow a similar path.

Feel free to be as curmudgeonly as you like.

Me? I'll enjoy the very fine work the recruitment team achieved in a very short time and in extremely challenging conditions. Such enjoyment may well be misplaced. However, I have no intention of suppressing my current joy until evidence suggests otherwise.

The season kicks off tomorrow with all teams equal. If you can't indulge in romantic optimism now before a ball is kicked in anger, when can you..?

Peter Gorman
407 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:55:24
Derek, Tom - you're cynicism is very understandable given what we've experienced over the last few years but what point exactly are you making now?

As true as it is that we've yet to see whether or not these new signings are the new Arteta or new Klaasen, surely there is little debate about whether or not we are far stronger after this window than before. At least we KNOW that the players Silva inherited cannot perform so why shouldn't there be grounds for optimism?

Whether all or none of these players gel, only the most curmudgeonly curmudgeon wouldn't want to applaud the work Marcel Brands has done. He appears to be Everton's best signing in a long while.

Peter Gorman
409 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:57:29
Full marks to Jay for beating me to the word 'curmudgeon'.
Minik Hansen
410 Posted 10/08/2018 at 20:58:22
Peter Gorman lol
Jay Wood

411 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:00:16
Full marks to YOU Peter for 'doubling up', even 'quadrupling' on the word!
Jack Convery
412 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:01:14
Logical buys - is Brands a Vulcan ? COYBs !!!!! IF I was Silva I would expect a lot of effort and passion from those chosen tomorrow. Those that don't will be out by end of August. Brands will no doubt spend the next few months looking for that striker that will take us to the next level and a permanent centre half unless Keane starts to show why he was bought for £30m.

I'm expecting Bernard to be our star performer this year as he's absolute class. Richarlson will cause havoc on the left and Bernard will make great use of the space created, as I can see teams doubling up on Richarlson. It will be very interesting to see the team chosen by Silva tomorrow because it will bear little resemblance to the team line up in October, unless they start to pull their tripe out, which is something they've failed to do for us, never mind 3 managers and a caretaker manager over the past three seasons.

So please EFC players make us proud and put Wolves to the sword.

Eddie Dunn
413 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:14:05
This window has given me hope for the season ahead. I don't expect miracles but I think we might just see some good football.
Andy Bone
414 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:41:35
£60 million net (LFC favourite) outlay. 6 lads in that are proven players and one possibility for Pickford's successor. Cut a load of deadwood and farmed out the youngsters. Hopefully Connelly and Dowell will get some game time, as will Beni and Holgate when fit. I was excited last season, but this seems more direct and less of a scatter gun approach. We may even see the best out of Gylfi which is a bonus. Who knows, one or two of the fringe players may respond well as well.
Mike Gaynes
415 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:47:13
Love your optimism, Andy. Keep it going.
Jeff Armstrong
416 Posted 10/08/2018 at 21:54:14
I think there are few players finished at this club after the activity over the last few days..
Davies(please).Siggurdsen, Jags, Sandro, Keane, Bollasie Schneiderlin (I wish)all surely sidelined over the next few coming weeks.
Darren Murphy
417 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:01:07
The good thing with this season we're not expected to do anything...the best thing the blue devil did was to pretend he wasn't real. COYB
Terry White
418 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:04:47
Andy (#414) I am sure Connelly will get plenty of game time at Wigan where he has gone on loan for the season.
Rob Halligan
419 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:06:58
Hey Mike, Lancashire win again tonight, by 37 runs. 👍👍👍👍
Amit Vithlani
420 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:09:41
What does one call a collection of curmudgeons?

Is it a brood?

Colin Metcalfe
421 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:12:59
Jeff (#416) "Sigurdsson finished at the club" — Seriously???

Club spend £45M and they are just going to sell him on for a massive loss? No Chance!

And apart from that, he is an excellent player who I, for one, want him in the starting eleven every week.

Peter Gorman
423 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:16:23
Not sure Amit but TW is surely the place to ask.

Jeff - I know Tom Davies has been frankly awful of late but I'd not write him off entirely. He has the ingredients, just needs the coaching.

Dave Evans
424 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:18:40
Ah Tom Mckewan @ 400/402

Have missed your clear bright pales of reason. If it is not too 'happy clappy' please reveal the formidable powers of logic in your assessments of what Brands and Silva should have done this short transfer window?

Or is it just people having renewed hope that irritates you?

Jeff Armstrong
425 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:21:13
Colin (#421), Sigurdsson was well overpriced when we paid £45 million for him, he was worth £25 million tops, less than the £28 million we paid for Bolasie, who is also finished, in my opinion, with the signing of Bernard, Sigurdsson at 29 is history.
Tony Williams
426 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:25:51
Ray (#377),

We do seem to be in the minority with Zouma and Keane but I really do think Keane will come good.

Jeff Armstrong
427 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:27:31
Peter Gorman... I don't believe Tom Davies has “it”.

As much as I'd love a fellow scouser to make it at Everton, I, and I believe a lot of fellow blues, think he is just not good enough at Premier League level. Sorry but I have written him off.

Chris Gallagher
428 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:31:50
@Amit (420)

I think the collective noun is 'former-Liverpool-defender-turned-pundit'.

(See: Thompson, Hansen, Lawrenson, Beglin plus a bonus couple of midfielders in Souness and Danny Murphy)

Ian Bennett
429 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:37:52
I think Sigurdsson will get a fair number of set-piece assists and has plenty to offer. You'd think that Tosun and Mina should get a fair number of goals from this route.

Bolasie, Sandro, Mirallas, Williams, Besic, Martina, Vlasic, Galloway are all finished. And I'd think Jagielka, Baines, Keane, Niasse, McCarthy, and Schneiderlin can't be far behind.

Jeff Armstrong
430 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:38:19
Chris (#428) – the collective noun is 'Gobshites'.
Andrew Presly
431 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:51:47
"Bollasie" – really? Credibility suffers when people don't spell names right. If a typo then apologies but the principle stands!
Paul Birmingham
432 Posted 10/08/2018 at 22:55:43
Colin @392, my thoughts too. That would be something for the club to think about.

Now for a winning start.

Andy Williams
433 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:00:50
Aah now I can see the roots of the real TW showing through. I had missed the curmudgeons over the past couple of days. All too positive and upbeat. Felt like a parallel universe.
Chris Gould
434 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:05:54
Andrew, the amount of people on here who would attempt to criticise Barkley but instead slag off some fella called Barclay or Barklay was laughable.

I could almost forgive those who struggled to spell Deleofufu no Delefefou wait er Deulofeu... fuck it.

Andy Crooks
435 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:08:02
I have checked the OED for the collective noun for ex Liverpool pundits. It is, apparently, a PRATTLECUNT.
Jeff Armstrong
436 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:09:25
Andrew really? Credibility sufferers when you can't spell? Hmmm, Bolasie can stay then, he's a really good player.
Jeff Armstrong
437 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:11:35
Chris, it’s fellah.
Tony Everan
438 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:12:29
A moanfest of curmudgeons?

A knew a lovely champion curmudgeon moaner. A great lad, and an Olympic standard moaner. People loved him for his moaning as they knew they would never hear moaning like it again, it was savoured. Come to think of it it was probably his heroin addiction that sharpened it.

Moaners with exceptional talent are Teflon coated to any sort of criticism and carry on regardless. They are like a freight train carrying a hundred trucks of gripe. Nothing is going to stop it reaching its destination. The moans must be delivered, the moanmentum is unstoppable.

Jeff Armstrong
439 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:16:39
Or is it feller, felleh... oh fuck it, 'bloke' will do.
Chris Gould
440 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:21:04
Haha, Jeff.

It's 'Fella' not 'Fellah', unless you are talking about a farmer from the Middle East or North Africa. (Had to google it to be sure)

I agree with your remarks about Bollasie but strongly disagree with your opinion of Bolasie.

Si Cooper
442 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:27:12
“My point – that you seem to have missed – is that none of them can have been actively SCOUTED by M &M”.

Sorry, Derek T, but if you think that is a valid point you must believe that Brands and Silva are not only absolute idiots but bone idle as well. Their livelihoods rely on the fact that they know far more about players like these than 99.9% of the footballing community.

Scouting players is the be all and end all for Brands. Of course he knows about fringe players at clubs like Barcelona, or Bernard looking to step up his career having earned his fortune already in the Ukraine. Silva brought Richarlison to England in the first place and being Portuguese is likely to know a lot about Gomes.

Sorry, of course you are right and they've just gratefully grabbed any old player the agents have shoved in front of them.

Peter Morris
443 Posted 10/08/2018 at 23:42:48
I see with some mild amusement that Mr Lawrenson has predicted an Everton loss tomorrow. Well, we shall see won't we, and Wolves will clearly be a big challenge, as all promoted teams usually are.

That aside, this blinkered muppet Lawrenson usually ‘punts' against the Blues. I'd love to see some analysis of it, but I reckon since he started predicting Premier League results as ‘fun' piece with some celeb or other, we would be in the Vanerama League by now based on his insights.

What a prick! Next time I see him in Waitrose in Formby, he's getting my free coffee over his head.

Derek Knox
444 Posted 11/08/2018 at 00:18:16
Peter @443, I am usually happy when Lawro and Merson for that matter, predict a result in a match we are involved in, because it generally works out to be the opposite.

What a pair of gobshites they are!

Mike Gaynes
445 Posted 11/08/2018 at 00:23:44
Rob, remind me to pick up a Lancashire cricket cap when I come over this trip.

(Do cricketers wear caps? Beanies? Helmets?)

David Midgley
446 Posted 11/08/2018 at 00:26:52
Chris #434
Spel chek--It's Fukk itt.
James Hughes
447 Posted 11/08/2018 at 00:29:23
Peter, don't waste the coffee, even if it's free!
Nicholas Ryan
448 Posted 11/08/2018 at 02:39:19
Mike [445] '...Pick up a Lancashire cricket cap...' Oh, dear, No! To be 'capped' you have to play for the county [about a dozen times]. To wear a cap you're not entited to, would be outrageously bad form!

By the way, the best comment I've heard about [Test] cricket, was from an American friend, who said: 'Only the English could invent a game, where 11 men stand in a field for a week, and don't get a result'!!

Derek Turner
449 Posted 11/08/2018 at 07:31:43
On the subject of players not being scouted, and comparisons to last seasons spending, B+S have identified some rather glaring issues which Koeman failed to spot, like we have no left side, a small defence with little aggression or pace, and they have fixed it.

Everyone was crying out for centre backs, a left back, a winger or two and we got them, for a fairly reasonable net spend. This after years of "we need six" but get two crocked midfielders, or in OFFFM's case, some odd little foreign chap for buttons and a bloke he found kicking tins in Oldham whilst out shopping.

Bernard is a player who has attracted a lot of interest for years, Brands knows exactly who they all are, its his job and he is by all accounts good at it. I know that optimism is anathema on TW, but maybe, just maybe, these guys actually know what they are doing.

Oh, and I would think its a curdle of curmudgeons.

Steven Jones
450 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:29:07
Nicholas 448

That is from a nation who invent a game that to actually get a hit they increase the number of innings so much so they don't get a hit all day or evening and then have to have to invent something called an 8th innings stretch .

Moronic game enough said of the Trump Nation .

Steven Jones
451 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:33:49
Tony 838 .

I have an ex wife like that

She has even perfected the art of saying something ridiculous and then later making it out that I have said it . taking the species to another level .


Steven Jones
452 Posted 11/08/2018 at 08:41:20
One thing I have noticed is the coaching/training is producing a more instant passing style and even the Jags type players passing quicker., earlier and this points to better sharper training routines based on fast passing and movement. It also shows the players understand their options quicker . almost instantly,

Yes it will take time - as it did for Pep and Klopp - a season at least for each but the signs are there . just some patience and support especially from the TW Brood .

Tony Waring
453 Posted 11/08/2018 at 09:34:45
Peter (443) You'll have to find some other potion. Waitrose have stopped the free coffee in Formby !
Rob Halligan
454 Posted 11/08/2018 at 09:42:48
Steven 450 .baseball is not that bad a game. Miles better American football. Jeez, is that one shit game.
Andy Williams
455 Posted 11/08/2018 at 11:28:06
Cuntbucket of curmudgeons.
Steve Ferns
456 Posted 11/08/2018 at 11:44:12
In cricket, you do get a cap for county cricket. However, you don’t get a cap every game, you get one for achievements. So many games, so many centuries, so many wickets, etc. I know this because I one was auctioned off at a sportsman’s charity auction I was at, and the owner Wasim Ackram was explaining it.
Peter Morris
457 Posted 11/08/2018 at 15:22:24
Tony (#453),
No they haven't, mate. They have just stopped giving out paper cups, so you have to take your own. I'll lay in wait for Lawrenson, the mincing meff.

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