Silva tempers reports of fresh Mina injury setback

I wonder if on the Barcelona equivalent of TW, they are praising their DOF for getting rid of all the dead wood and sick notes over the summer?

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking.

Yes, I love people glorifying the “good old days” which in reality was horrible mistreatment and medical malpractice. I lived through years of playing through chronic ankle injuries that eventually went too far. Once I was literally unable to walk and even injections couldn't overcome the actual physical limitation of the tendons and ligaments in my ankle no longer being able to function, I was a forgotten man.

All that “show commitment” was a one way street, and now I can't walk anywhere in the house without my ankles cracking as if someone is tapping tiles together. There went my spy career 😉. Once I was shown as damaged goods I was no longer of value and replaced.

Not to mention the fact that a freaking foot injury would mean he'd be skinned alive all match by athletes that would seem like superhuman aliens if they were planted on the pitch 30-40 years ago. And don't get me started on the concussion issues.

So we got 3 players from Barcelona this summer and all 3 of them were injured when they arrived. Two of them are still recovering at this moment.

Maybe they know something we don't?

I think it is a good job Brands got Zouma on loan.

If it is that kind of injury then that's another 5 weeks before he returns to training and another 3 weeks of training so it's probably a 7 or 8 weeker.

Gomes seems crocked since day one and hasn't even started training so he's not going to be fit before the start of November then we have the whole palaver of him needing 4 or 5 more weeks worth of games.

It's just the same old story with Everton and injuries sadly.

It does now raise the point about ever getting the strongest back 4 and team out before Chrimbo.

Typical and almost inevitable with EFC, this poxy luck with injuries.

We just did, unfortunately! Terrible luck.

Hope this is just a rumour because I've been looking forward to seeing Mina play, especially since James Marshall told us we were going to be playing with 3 centre backs this week.

It's just my own view, but I can't see how we are going to improve defensively, unless he stops the fullbacks bombing on, or puts an extra defender down the middle of our defence?

Perhaps Materazzi, who was a wonderful player but his hands on Italian approach to defending wasn't quite appreciated by English referees.

Boots these days have to be made from butterfly wings, glued together with Unicorn tears and coloured pink.
Maybe they should just glue studs to their feet.

It seems the minor injuries never seem to clear up, and again I reiterate, how do these players pass medicals?

Imagine the fume if he played when not 100% and got injured/broke down, the club would be called all sorts!

There's a new ground being built

I wouldn't be so optimistic. He was abject against West Ham and Arsenal. His reading of the game is abysmal, his positioning is poor. He's got some outstanding physical attributes but in terms of natural footballing ability, I think he comes up massively short.

It's no coincidence that Chelsea won't give him a look in and that he anchored the defence for a team that got relegated last season.

For tomorrow id rather Holgate and Keane although with Coleman being out I'd rather Holgate at RB above Kenny. Kenny isn't uo to it I'm afraid

Tony # 32 - if Jags is fit perhaps we could line up with a back three of Jags, Keane, and Zooma?

He's also 'hands on' and the quickness and cheating that goes on in the Premier league these days means forwards have the advantage.

Maybe Santa and his elves can get him fit for Christmas and he proves to be the best thing since sliced bread. So far this season we have been like donuts, running around in circles with a giant hole through the middle.

I'd also advocate a back 3 and leaving DCL as the main central striker.

Getting excited about the Fulham game, I'm sensing goals and a real good end to end game. Any win will do, but I'll bet on 4-2!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3Ns4-Qacg

Personaly I think both Zouma and Kenny are bedding in and will improve and both had decent games against the Arse. Kenny is not going to be a world beater, but with experience could be a solid defender. In general our defence played well against Arsenal. We fell to a great finish and an offside goal.

As for Zouma and him doing okay against Arsenal. He was absolutely at fault for both goals. Watch them again and watch his involvement in those goals. I don't care what he did for the rest of the game, if a defender causes you directly to lose 2 goals then I'm afraid he's no good.

I agree, Jonjoe Kenny is not looking like the long-term answer to the right-back position. Much like Tom Davies, his progress has stagnated somewhat but we will see what happens.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/yerry-mina-injury-update-everton-15210977

Unfortunately no update on how long he will be absent.

However I do not see that modern boots are anywhere near up to the job. I know balls are lighter but they afford little or no protection to stamping, being kicked, or as has happened someone breaks a toe by hitting the ball too hard. Seems that the big thing going for these 'new fangled' boots is more ball control, all at the risk of serious injury and protracted lay-offs.

Oh yes, and the players do, of course, get sponsorship money!!!

They were cutting edge compared to my first pair!
Leather ''nailed in'' studs that could do some damage...

In the West Ham game, if Walcott would have used him more instead of going it on his own, a few more very good crosses would have been placed into the area.

When Jonjoe plays in a settled team, he will become part of that team, he's not going to make it? Well don't bet on that.

I remember when the studs wore down, there were these new rubber studs you could nail in. Mind you, we were so poor I initially had two pieces of toasted hovis strapped to my feet.

Yes, I was joking – I am not an advocate of Subutteo style glue together physios.

We need a win this Sat, regardless who the starting XI are and Silva has 4 of his 6 signings available so no excuses re not having players available. Also, its Fulham at home. I bet Mitrovic scores so we'd better score at least 2.

Now that could be just him deflecting the question and he has no intention of playing Richarlison down the middle, but well let's see what happens. Perhaps he won't start with Bernard Ricky and Theo as a front three but, if we're struggling, could it be that he'll hook Tosun or Calvert-Lewin or whichever other loser we have at No 9 and shift Richarlison there?

I will be Yerry pissed off if the lad is out for a while.

I am Keane to see how Zouma does - if he plays well, it could Kurt-ains for the old Jag.

Young Mason too, could become a rock.

Now, anyone seen my pills...I see dead people.

What a fucking joke of a club...

I did wonder lol. That said, I hope Keane finds his form. He reminds me a bit of Cleverley in that he seems like a decent bloke, does his best, no drama. Bit like Jags too. I never saw enough of him at Burnley to know if his struggles here last year were an aberration or the norm.

Then there is the question why Mina has played so few matches in the past. Is he very injury prone? Can we Count on hime to be playing 40 games a season? 30? 20?

And for all that see him as a captain? Why? What has he proven?

Glad Keane is back. But not glad he has to Play so soon after a head injury. That worries me the Medical team is sort of not up to it. Either.

Yes Brent, they were. And when the leather wore down the nails were lethal.

Hovis? We used to dream of Hovis.

Krøldrup. There's a question mark there for me. Why was he never given a proper run out by Moyes?

He had the Villa game but at that point the whole team was underperforming. I didn't even think he was the worst thing about that performance that night.

Maybe he was garbage in training, but that is no barometer really. Red Rum famously underwhelmed at the lesser races only to excel on the day of the grand national

I'm not comparing Krøldrup to a race horse. But what I am saying is that he wasn't given a fair crack of the whip. He went on to perform solidly back in Italy and on the international stage

1. Language constantly changes and evolves. You don't write the way Dickens did, and he didn't write the way Shakespeare did. Emojis are the latest step in the evolution of written communication.

2. They are actually useful and add to a discussion, giving a clearer sense of the writer's tone and intention. For example, something said tongue in cheek can sometimes be taken literally, and irony or sarcasm can be missed leading to misunderstanding and conflict.

3. Your aversion to them is simply lack of familiarity and a natural resistance to change. In time you'll get used to them. Worth noting that most of us grow up thinking there's a ‘correct' way to use language, usually based on what we were taught in school. You won't find an actual linguist who will accept this though.

Not that I'll use them myself on ToffeeWeb mind.

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I heard, on good authority, that it was Keane but that it was a complete accident and absolutely no wrongdoing was intended!!

Snafi was bought at Kentucky by one of the Makhtoums for £ 9 million, a monumental amount back then. He was sent to John Dunlop who soon realised that Snafi Dancer was not just slow but very slow.

Think instead of Snafi, Krøldrup, think Moyes instead of Dunlop. So Dunlop knows that Snafi will never win a race. However, he knows that he is from the Northern Dancer bloodline. So, don't let anyone see he is useless. Never race him. Think Moyes and Krøldrup.

Snafi Dancer goes straight to stud, unraced, with no harm to his reputation. Here's where the story went wrong: Snafi was infertile and ended his days as a hack on a ranch in Canada. The sheiks set up Godolphin and learned.

I don't know how it ended for Pers. Better, I hope!

If it was not him then I. Use be getting it mixed up with another player we signed.

The way this is going, he will be struggling to play as many games as Darren Gibson.

Yes. I heard that too. Apparently Daniel Agger was the player in question. What a great addition he would've been, especially if he'd have remained injury free with us

They cover the complete ankle no problem.

A one inch stud, have to be careful when the one and a half inch nail pierces the inner sole but apart from that they're in good nick.

Think I've still got a half tin of dubbin so he'll look good on the pitch.

No chance he'll ever get another broken metatarsal that's for sure

While we're at it, where is Gomes?? Will Bernard start tomorrow? Is Everton a jinxed club? Do we Everton fans ever get a day containing good news??

Getting back to Mina, not so long ago there were some on here 'celebrating' our new signings. Quite a few of whom had previously been constant 'neggies' about the previous management's acquisitions.

In addition, and again, not so long ago we all used to bemoan the amount of 'hammys' our squad obtained and placed the blame fairly and squarely on the incumbent management team. Therefore, was there any real need to import one by the current management team?

Now, entering October, how do these same posters feel about us paying money for a 'hammy' in Gomes and a potential 'crock' in Mina?

Do they also consider Bernard, a player who hadn't played a competitive game since March, an equally important signing to kick-start our new season?

I am only asking because in our position after last season, we didn't need a drip-feed from the new management team, we needed a proper shot-in-the-arm, didn't we?

In other words, our new signings needed to hit the ground running, in order to improve our RESULTS irrespective of performances.

Thus far, and without the use of supposition, I ask anyone to prove to me how our new signings have improved our RESULTS any more than the last lot of failures imported by this stage of the previous season.

And please note, I am not talking about performances, which are subjective and opinion only. Equally, I am not looking for soundbites, just the plain honest truth.

For someone who is afraid to head the ball, Lukaku I seem to recall scored an awful lot of headers during his time here.

I don't remember many but moreover The Echo carried this story with Mearns talking to Garbutt on the subject

Discussing Lukaku, Mearns said: "Garbs I wanted you to recall a story you told me once, about one and a half years ago, about big Romelu Lukaku.

"You'd think he wins headers all the time. But I remember you said you put a ball in during training and he didn't head it and I remember you asked him why and he said 'I had an accident when I was a kid and I don't like heading the ball'. Was that true?

Garbutt replied: "At the time he wasn't particularly confident and I don't know if he was ducking out of the way of headers.

"Because he's scored a header this season against Sunderland and has had a couple of good opportunities where he's stuck his head in there; I don't know whether Koeman has said to him he needs to do more in the air or whatever.

"He used to say to me that heading wasn't really his strong point.

For the record, to date he has scored 103 premier league goals. 53 with his left foot, 27 with his right foot and 23 with his head. He has also made 64 headed clearances when helping out in defence.

Not bad for someone who doesn't like using his head.

I wonder if this was down to Turkey wanting it on loan without any cash upfront.

Anyway back to tomorrow's game, sounds like Bernard will start on the wing with Richarlison pushed up as a centre forward.

If this is the case, I would stick with the same formation for Tuesdays cup game, try and get a settled side, rather than keep chopping and changing.

We should have more than enough to beat Fulham at home and win our cup tie without him.

Brent @ 30 - gold.

How can you not be a fan of the emoji? A time-saving simple that surmises 6 to 10 words in a single stroke!

We started with pictures on cave walls, we've gone full-circle with electronic cellular devices!

Your post is paradoxical.

When you post back-to-back you can't edit the second post.

Someone code that bad-boy up so we can edit. I'm quick with the "Enter / Return" key!

Probably not a wise thing.

Lukaku has only spoken glowingly about Mourinho and Mourinho the same about Lukaku. Those statements have all been made in public by both parties. Your accusation is completely baseless, without any fact whatsoever. There has never been any evidence of him being a trouble maker at any club. Your need to make up a complete lie is pathetic.

They would run a mile if they saw one of these at Finch Farm

Casey

Gomes has a more difficult injury and thus a more difficult recovery but, when he does fully recover, we will have the luxury of having one of the world's great players in that pivotal midfield role. We are putting together an impressive orchestra – it's worth waiting for a great conductor.