Bolasie cuts short Villa loan

Will he have anything to offer for the remainder of this season?

Well, ultimately ineffectual wide players with pace, nice touches and woeful final ball seems to be a regular theme at Goodison Park, he at least won't feel left out...

Christ... as if things aren't bad enough we're getting one back worse than what we've got — that takes some doing.

The new Henry!!

It sounds like his form has been very up and down. This sounds like Yannick for the whole of his career.

Couldn't we swap him for Vlasic?

What little chance we had of bringing a striker in will be even less likely now. We needed to lower the wage bill but have now increased it.

Reports suggest that Bolasie forced the return against the club's wishes. In saying that, maybe we're worrying over nothing, and he has returned because his agent has already arranged a move elsewhere?

The Dynod Rod contract will now cost Everton even more as we are now over flowing with rubbish.

No Premier League team will take Bolasie and unlikely any Championship Team. Palace would may be do us a favour and take him on a free.

Let's see how the man-management skills of Siva and Brands manage us out of this situation...

My question is a simple one: Why the fuck would we agree to that clause?????

5 assists isn't a bad return but, as others say we don't want him back.

Makes sense for Villa as it seems they had the option to cancel the loan. Unless Bolasie forced the return with his form. 2 goals and 5 assists in 21 games doesn't sound great for a 㿊M man.

Remember, the lad got that cruciate injury and thus was out for ages, and naturally struggled afterwards – so you can't blame the management for that.

To get him off the wage bill.

Truely astounded as to what 'second level' approval was in place to sanction and ratify the deals under Walsh and Koeman.

Who actually at the club was questioning the deals and overruling Walsh and Koeman? Was it Elstone? Truely beggars belief.

In answer to your question Bolasie is not cup-tied. He wasn't involved in Villa's 3-0 third round defeat at home to Swansea.

I wish him luck and hope he is able to recapture the imperious form he showed for Palace against us and in glimpses in blue.

We've all said he shouldn't have been bought and a similar fee to Cenk and we won't be able to give him away on a free.

It sums up the state of the club and as football and trading standards go, EFC has well and truly been had.

The recent thread on the 90s tripe buys in the EPL era, will seemingly be maintained in good order by Everton, as the current generation is as bad. Just remembered Magaye Gaye as another flightless winger.

Let's hope there's better news this week, and we can beat Millwall.

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No wonder he is always running around with a smile on his face – pretty depressing for us fans though, not to mention Brands & Moshiri

Our wage bill is a mess and will not be easily rectified. A large bunch of overpaid, ageing players, many of whom have not played much this season. Such players are very hard to shift permanently as no-one want to match their wages. Hence all the loans.

Truly the recruitment team over the last 3 years has a lot to answer for.

Our best hope is that Yannick is prepared to take a wage cut in order to get a permanent move somewhere and get what's left of his career back on track. ٦M to somewhere like Middlesbrough? Wishful thinking I suspect.

On the same day, Huddersfield appoint a new manager and their first home game when they are all out to impress and all pumped up is against... Everton! You couldn't make it up.

This will have a major impact on our summer spending, and there won't be many takers at the sort of money Everton would be asking, so how do you get them off the wage bill. You can bet that even though they all spout "I just want to play football", none will go for less money than they are on at the moment. The only way is to practically give them away.

Come the summer, there will be more deadwood at Finch Farm than there is in the Kielder Forest.

Kim @28, oh I do hope you are so right on that one but, like someone has mentioned on several occasions, Koeman and Walsh have set our Club back decades, not only have we got all this deadwood, and has been proved with Bolasie. It's the mind-boggling salaries and long contracts that go with it, it's easier to get rid of the Ebola virus, or Lassa Fever.

He doesn't seem to be able to cut it at Championship level, yet they have paid Champion's League money for him.

I know crying over spilt milk never right's previous wrongs, but it is so infuriating to see what has happened to our Club in a relatively short space of time.

No-one can blame the fans for any of this either, as if it wasn't infuriating enough, the likes of Koeman gets compensation (very handsomely) for making a total cock-up. In our world, any incompetence in a job results in an empty sack!

With Walcott's form, it might not be as bad as we think; I'd rather him returning than the above two mentioned.

Although I doubt they were paying all his wages anyway. I'll bet we were covering a good chunk of it ourselves.

A sobering sign of the times and hopefully the new business plan under Marcel Brands will prevent such practices again.

Next season will be defenders and then we will have the biggest squad of shite ever seen in the Premier League. 😂⚽️🙈

Now I know we are cursed.

Can it get any worse for us long-suffering Evertonians?

As others have already asked, why agree a loan and even allow either the player or the loaning club this 'get out' clause? The terse single line sentence reporting this on the official club site suggests Everton is not exactly partying in the street at this news, so it is possibly completely unexpected.

Trying to put an optimistic spin on it, maybe the player himself and his agent, or even Everton know an alternative loan, or even a permanent transfer out of Everton, is in the offing, but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part.

I was never convinced by the value of his fee, or his ability and what he could offer Everton. At the time, we could have got Zaha from Crystal Palace for the same price.

And now we are forced to take one back into the fold and back onto the payroll.

WTF has happened to my once proud football club?

A Palace fan I know said that when he saw the headline “Palace forward in 㿅M move to Everton”, he assumed it must have been Zaha as they didn't have another forward close to that value.

What were our recruiters thinking? Answers on a post-card please...

Stevie wonder would've done a better job.

If they can't get motivated for the FA Cup away vs Millwall, then God help Everton.

The uncanny twists of fate do seem to make the worst of the fortunes and all matters Everton.

Let's hope as many on this forum have alluded to, perhaps the player or his agent have had an offer from elsewhere, perhaps China...which seems to pay ransom money for mediocre players and players who can't cut it in the Premier League and European leagues.

We live in hope.

When will this all end?

Shrewd move Everton going for players with experience at playing against Millwall.

Well, what the fuck else could it be?

Most of the managers are nothing but frauds and chancers. They have no more insight into what makes a successful club anymore than we on TW do. But they managed to get a hand on the greasy money pole and we didn't. Usually through some backscratching or other. Ex-player, managers mate etc. Get the sack, big pay off, get another job, rinse, repeat.

Director of Football. Fancy name for a supposed expert talent-spotter. Yet we have had two and neither of them appear to be much cop. It's basically just guess work. A few lucky guesses and you're a talent-spotting genius. That's what we though about Walsh. Look at the players he spotted at Leicester City. Kante, Mahrez, Vardy. So surely he must know what he's doing. Right? Wrong! Unfortunately, his luck ran out at Everton. His guesses didn't pay off. Maybe Brands guesses will pay off eventually. Then again maybe they won't. Time will tell.

Everton is not the only Premier League club carrying a lot of deadwood. Most of them are. The fact is we will kiss a lot of frogs before we find a prince or two. It is the nature of the game because, as I've said, finding good players is just guesswork. It is not an exact science.

It wasn't the club's decision, Ian.

Simply not good enough.

Could he do any better than what we have here at present? I seriously doubt it at 29. Like Walcott, his best performances are long gone.

Terrible when it's got to this type of business. Let's hope Brands has a master plan for the garage sale at Everton, now or in the summer.

In another life, I'm not going anywhere near any sport.

Might be wrong but I'm sure a few ToffeeWebbers mentioned him before we appointed the perma-unhappy looking Silva – plus his post-match comments contain similar gobbledegook.

I think Everton F.C have collected a group of players similar to my old clubs. Too valuable to get shut but superseded by more youthful models with more yardage. Who in their right mind would give good money for our cast offs?

Farhad Moshiri, Bill, Big Sam, Ronald, Roberto... The list of mugs has to stop somewhere.

Where managers fail abysmally but walk into new jobs after being compensated for their utter ineptitude.

Where Bolasie, Sandro, Mirallas etc, etc, men who are not fit to lace the boots of proper Evertonians are allowed to shamelessly steal money from our club, and those who organised and sanctioned this theft are not run out if town in disgrace.

I have always defended the right of young working-class men to earn big money from football. Not, like Mirallas and others, to steal it and rub our noses in it. Football is detached from reality, morality and the real world. The monstrous sense of entitlement from many of these moderately talented young men is scary.

I do not see, despite what some say, any sign of our players not trying. They care, to a degree, but not enough. Defeat does not hit them up.

I suspect that most of those who were abject on Saturday had a decent night out after the game. They had no right to, they should have been too sick to the stomach. Alan Ball would have been. Roy Keane too.

We have no-one remotely like them at our club. We have nice guys getting money for old rope.

He had a terrible injury which any player would find hard to come back from. If he can give us something different, which he does, then fair play to him.

I don't care how much he gets paid because there's nothing that can be done about it; give him a chance and see what happens.

Such expensive cock-ups that have little resale value like Schneiderlin, Williams and Bolasie are crippling our transfer budget. The huge problem we have is not being able to sell.

Mirallas will probably be out on loan till he becomes a free, as will Bolasie, as other teams can see they aren't worth what they're paid and will soak up the wages until they have no contract.

It might be worth checking how much it would cost to terminate if we can't get them out the door!

What a joke it is. The bits of contact, the diving, the inconsistent lawmakers, the leeches sucking the game dry. The whole thing has attracted all of the wrong people to it. The oligarchs, the Sheiks, the dirty Russian money, and the biased, one-eyed media.

What will it all be like in 10 or 20 years?

That applies not only to the powers that be but also to that load of supporters who, right up to the day he left, were berating myself and anyone else who criticised the fraud.

I remember wing-back Tony Hibbert, who couldn't cross a ball if he tried, and midfielder Leon Osman, who could be knocked over by a puff of wind. Everton made them into millionaires many times over yet neither would get a place at any other Premier League club.

There were lots of others like that yet they had legions of supporters in our ranks and woe betide those who called them out.

It all comes back to my first paragraph...

Sorry to say he is a really bad player. He's like a poor man's Kevin Kilbane (who I really liked, despite his lackings). It's like you know what is gonna happen when he runs With the ball – nothing good!

I miss a player like Osman in the team. A bigger and stronger Osman would be a hell of a player. Osman could shoot and had a good understanding of the game.

Bolasie has a big price tag on him – the one we paid. I reckon everything above ٣M would be a robbery if anyone is crazy enough to pay that sort of money.

This wailing and feeling sorry for ourselves has to stop. It's like a negative cancer pervading our club.

However, there is one profession that comes close to football for rewarding ineptitude – politician.

On his day, he is a handful, those days may be over post injury but, when your wide options are the simply dreadful Walcott and Bernard, who doesn't really do anything other than lose his temper, surely Bolasie is worth a go.

Fucking hell, Lie [88]. Kevin, bless his heart, was unable to control a football, his only 'ability' being to hoof it forward, chase it, and then, if a defender didn't get to it first, belt in a cross in the hope that Timmy Cahill might be there to get his head onto it.

Super transfer business to go with the super coaching.

The fact is, a lot of us were very happy to have him signed, even for 㿇 million. He had made a habit of tearing us up when he played against us. He had the pace we were desperately craving at that time. And, despite the defects in his game, he established a nice, if brief, partnership with Romelu Lukaku, and he turned in a relentless effort at both ends of the pitch. I was just sick when he blew out that knee.

I don't think he deserves the vituperation I'm seeing in this thread. Personally, I wish him the best, whatever happens. And I hope he finds a place to play.

You are almost certainly in the minority.

Another player who thinks the goalposts are somewhere in Stanley Park.

And spot on. Lucky, lucky people...

Whatever skill he might have had got left behind at Palace the day he joined us.

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I would love to have that player back rather than the club forking out ٧M for nothing. Let's see what happens.

Interesting to note the manager had our left winger on the half-way line for their corner.

So many short memories here. When he arrived he gave us a huge injection of energy that was really lacking under Koeman and Big Sam. For the games they played together, he and Lukaku had a great relationship. I remember the Gwladys Street singing his name so many times. Thousands of times.

Am I wrong?

Then, a career-ending injury. So bad, it needed one big operation just to prepare for the main operation. I admire the guy (as I do McCarthy and Coleman) for getting back to full fitness. We're the People's Club, and we sick by our fallen soldiers.

If he never went to Villa would you all be making these unsavoury comments?

The whole situation is not ideal, but I find the comments here really inhumane. We're the People's Club; he's a good person. Remember that before you go shooting your mouth off.

At first he nipped in front of a rather disgusted Lukaku on the right to pop a lovely goal in. I had high hopes back then. Who knows how it would have gone had he not had the injury?

The reality is that in the Premier League it is dog eat dog, only the fittest survive. Weaknesses are targeted and exposed. There is no room for sentiment.

Any Chinese clubs willing to pay 㿇M Stirling? Or Yuan for that matter.

He is perhaps the only winger on our books that is truly comfortable playing wide. We shall see what the next week brings.

Let"s see what he can do under Silva.

Slightly off topic, but I was reading elsewhere that Everton are interested in Southampton's 2nd choice right back Cedric Soares... wait for it!

He's 27 and we are allegedly contemplating a 㾻M offer, now don't you feel a lot better after that?

On the other hand, if we do sign "Cedric", that will tell me everything we need to know about this club.

To those who claim the injury did for him – it didn't – he was distinctly average prior to that. Brian Porter#101 sums him up.

As to the contradictions between his and Villa's statements. I imagine that Bolasie wants to play football. I assume Smith explained her doesn't want to sign him long-term and consequently may not utilize him much as he would rather give younger players a chance. This probably provoked Bolasie to leave and hope for playing time elsewhere, but also ties in with comments suggesting Villa pushed him out.

You don't need to be a scouting genius to work this one out. An immense talent who is going to struggle to break in at LFC. Get the money ready and offer it.

He would be perfect for our right or left side with him and Richarlison switching throughout.

Let's not forget Sheedy, left-footed set-piece specialist who couldn't make his breakthrough at LFC. A different time, I know, but a similar situation with a similarly talented player.

I suppose, if I were him, I would rather train and be at a Premier League club than a Championship one, particularly if I was entitled to do so under my contract terms.

I doubt we will see him anywhere the team unless there is an injury crisis.

Not ideal, but we've got to crack on.

In regards to him returning, what I heard is that Villa is going through a huge restructure with it's new management. One of the reasons Dean Smith was brought in was to change the club's mindset and push the promotion of youth. They are heading for another season in the Championship and the parachute money is going to run out soon. Paying 70k a week for a single player isn't an option for them anymore. When they sent back Bolasie, they immediately recalled one of there youth player's off loan as a replacement. They sent him back as basically they couldn't afford to keep him.

Supposedly he's not in Silva's plans, so we have less than 10 days to find him a new home. I highly doubt he'll play in the cup game as wouldn't that mean he couldn't play for a third team during a season if we are looking to offload him?

Like a fool, I clicked it and read that the "explanation" is simply reaffirmation of the title letting us know that Bolasie has returned.

Could he replace Gana, similar to Wijnaldum or Sissoko play for their teams ready to counter, leaving the ball player Gomes deep?

It is beyond belief that no-one stepped in and said, "Enough is enough!" Sigurdsson cost the club 㿔 million... WTF!!!

Klaassen, Schneiderlin, Sandro, Keane, Pickford, and Rooney. Did Dopey Koeman make even one decent buy? Some might put forward Gana Gueye but he too is also very limited.

After the enormous mess Koeman made of this club by squandering all that money on utter shite, I still can't figure out why Sam Allardyce, who was never getting the job full-time, was allowed to spunk a further 㿞 millions on Tosun and Walcott – who are also utter crap.

Who in God's name signed off on these deals? Does anybody at this club have half a clue what a decent player looks like?

Says it all really when we can't even give players away that we paid fortunes for... I suppose Barrett-Baxendale won't let this kind of thing happen on her watch, will she? Oh, wait a minute...

Best of luck to him, though, wherever he ends up. Not his fault we overpaid enormously for him.

I was pleased, as many were, when this signing was made remembering his performances against us. I was disappointed that he didn't seem so good when wearing blue. The injury curtailed him. In fairness to some TW posters, there was also an outcry when the signing was made, but mostly at the cost, rather than his ability.

Interesting to compare the Bolasie signing with Richarlison. Merson famously wore a TW hat in assessing the signing and was castigated. Our hero steps on the pitch vs Wolves and we were all so so pleased.

Marco Silva insists on playing him in the centre-forward position, where he has been woeful for past few games. Richarlison had 8 successful passes and 6 passes to the opposition (could be just his Lukaku touch) v Saints and no touch in their penalty area. Bolasie was never as bad as that.

If I was Brands, I wouldn't have let the player cut the loan on his own say, as I assume it means we're back on the hook for his wages? But maybe it's because he's got a whiff of a permanent transfer and can only make that happen if he's at his parent club?

Either way, he's too inconsistent to be a regular. He's one of these players that looks like his head has no idea what his legs are doing. When they connect, something good happens... but, most of the time, they're in separate rooms.

I'd love Hibbert and Osman fighting for the team at the moment.

That might not have been the biggest, they might have earned a fortune whilst at Everton, but they were both loyal and always put 100% in.

You can't say that for half of the team at the moment. And I bet they were never on anywhere near the wages that half of our underperforming players are on now.

But wait – they came through our youth system so we must slag them off. It's a good job we don't do that with any of the current crop of youngsters... 🤔🤔

He was very much a Koeman signing, not a Walsh signing. Koeman said he was interested in Bolasie while still at Southampton.

Yes, he had some good moments, but they really were few and far between. Certainly not enough to merit the hype or the fee paid.

He was very unfortunate with his injury (even accused of 'faking' it at the time, I recall). He worked hard to get fit again and was clearly delighted to be playing football on his return – away to West Brom last season around Christmas time, I recall.

Again, he did 'okay', but looked a long way off what is needed.

I had no qualms that Silva and Brands saw him as one of the players they wanted off Everton's books. I thought Aston Villa would be a good fit for him, but they have had a middling season, changed managers and we all know what that can mean for players, especially loan players.

I continue to believe he is excess to requirements and we need to cash in, or at worst, share his salary with another club by loaning him out again, because IMO he has no short-, medium-, or long-term future at Everton.

The Echo also report that Henry Onyekuru wants to stay beyond his present loan spell with Galatasaray. The Echo also say that he is waiting for Galatasaray and Everton to come to an agreement for a ٧ million transfer to make the move permanent.

These reports by our so-called local newspaper hardly lift the morale.

Later in the same game, the ball was passed out to him by the Bullens Road, and he failed to control it and it went under his foot and out for a throw-in. He was pretty ineffective throughout the game, if the truth be told, he seemed to be out of position all game and was eventually subbed.

That day summed up his Everton career. We've seen the odd flash of brilliance, but he's not the man for us — the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He will never be consistent enough, and he doesn't score anywhere near enough goals for such an attacking player. Yet, he can be a world beater on his day! I've never been so divided on a player in all my time watching Everton, but I do think we should let him go if possible.

It must have something to do that we do not train well and take care of our players.

Maybe we create the deadwood ourselves?

Maybe Duncan Ferguson is a useless coach.

Maybe we play a type of football that does not suit our players?

How did these players become deadwood?

Mirallas had a brilliant potential. Suddenly he cant play football? What happened? Didnt he train enough or did he train the wrong way?

Williams was better than Stones the first season. Yes he is older but what happened?

Sandro plays now for Real Sociedad. I saw part of their game this weekend and Sandro was playing. Trust me Real Sociedad is a better team than Everton. I saw more creativity in 10 minutes than I have seen at goodison the last half year. I think Sandro has potential. If he is taking care of properly.

Vlasic. He is definitely not deadwood.

Bolasie. The injury ruined it for him. But maybe he has some good football left in him.

Oneukuru - find out how to get him here.

I don't buy this. I believe that something must be wrong in our training grounds. It cannot be the players fault only.

Idiotic comments

Bolasie has 11 Goals in 119 Premier League Games (2 in 29)

Richarlison has 14 Goals in 57 Premier League Games. (9 in 19 for Everton)

Add to that the fact Richarlison is still very much a young player with room for further development.

Add to that Richarlison has been superb in games vs Arsenal, Wolves, Southampton and Brighton this season.

I cannot remember Bolasie having a good game for Everton in his 29 attempts. Half of which were before his injury.

Flabbergasted by your comments.

The club are the ones for blame for all the massively paid average players we have.

I am one of those who has mocked the terms of his ridiculously over-generous contract but that was in criticism of those who laid on that contract, not the lad himself.

Having made that clear, I would like to see him return to the first-team squad without delay because, even post injury, I believe him to be no less effective a winger than those who occupy those spots under this season's manager. The cast-off colony is already full to over-flowing so let's get some bang for our bucks. Just for a change.

In our current plight, play him, give him a chance. What have we got to lose? Unless I am watching a different team?

It's like a new signing.

The very same people would surely have slagged the club off for not pushing the boat out to get their targets.

1) He is surplus to our requirements;

2) We can fit him into the current squad as a useful member;

3) We can or will change our formation and playing style to accommodate him – or, for that matter, anyone else that returns from loan, or is signed in this window.

Maybe – just maybe – those that have to make these decisions know more and have a better idea of what they want / what is needed – than we do?

For example, I found the grief dished out to Kone (I'd forgotten all about him to be honest) when he finally came back extremely distasteful. The bloke did well to be even playing again.

It's the same with Coleman now. Anyone that expected him to come back the same at 30 was living in a dream world. The reality is the old Seamus Coleman has gone. He will know it. He is 60 - 70% of what he was. He's done well to get back playing again. Giving the fella stick, especially someone that would walk into an Everton Premier League 11, is bang out of order.

Same with Bolasie. For him, a pacey, dynamic winger, that injury is a nightmare. Especially when he doesn't, with respect, really have the football brain or ability to change his game and adapt to another position. Just like Coleman, in your late 20s, you don't come back from that injury the same. I feel bad for any player that gets a major injury.

The issue I have is that I just don't think we should have been paying 㿈 million for an inconsistent, non-assisting, non-goalscoring, 28-year-old winger in the first place.

It's the big signings with nothing to play for that take the team in a downward spiral. Happened to Newcastle, Leeds, and Villa. The only reason Spurs didn't add to this list is because of Daniel Levy.

The loss could be in the hundreds of millions since Moshiri took over. This type of calamity could not and would not have been forecast by anyone buying a football club.

We have players on big contracts that are nowhere near good enough or have lost whatever they had. Schneiderlin, Tosun, Mirallas, Bolasie, Vlasic, Sandro, Williams, Besic, Martina, Tarashaj – all being paid and of little to no use...

Add to that shit-show, we've struggling first-team players that are following the same downward spiral. Pickford caught Joe Hart's cocky goalkeeper syndrome. Moshiri forked out a combined 60 big-ones for Keane and Mina but our best defender has been a Chelsea loanee. At least Sigurdsson and Richarlison at a combined outlay of nearly 𧴜 Million have yielded goals but neither are top 6 players in any way, shape, or form – like Anderson is at West Ham, who was picked up for a similar fee.

Every single one of those players mentioned is worth half what we paid. Hopefully, the tide turns but we've nothing to play for so I'd expect us to remain inconsistent for the rest of the season.

Maybe Brands & Silva had made their minds up that wide men Richarlison, Bernard, Lookman and Walcott and pushing both full-backs forward meant we had more than enough players for positions that Bolasie might play.

Maybe, just maybe, we are signing players for positions which are more than covered, even central defenders. And I suppose playing him, say, centre-forward would not be out of the question, you know, as they have a better idea of what we need or they want than we do.

One thing is for sure, most of the senior players out on loan will return in summer or maybe, just maybe, be sold for that "undisclosed fee" after a less than likely agreement on a wage cut.

Okay, he has not lit up the park since his injury, but neither has Seamus. With players who are in their late 20s or 30s it can take 5% out of their game. It's enough to make them ordinary. It's a shame we can't get part of the fee back on insurance.

I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes, or if he decides to stay and give 100%.

Belief and confidence... get them in place and anything is possible. This season was a write off for everyone with an ounce of sense. Progress is slow, but keep the faith.
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So maybe he can contribute. Nothing else, he's still fast in a straight line and still retains his great upper-body strength. And he has 2 more years on his contract. Play him.