Silva fined £12,000 by the FA

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Marco Silva has been hit with a fine of £12,000 by the Football Association for improper conduct following his verbal altercation with officials at the end Everton's defeat at Newcastle.

The Portuguese was incensed that clear offside was not given against Salomon Rondon prior to Ayoze Perez striking the winning goal that completed the Magpies' comeback from being 2-0 down at half-time.

Everton had roared into a 2-0 lead, taking advantage of some fortune of their own when Jordan Pickford escaped punishment for hauling Rondon down in the box and then saving Matt Ritchie's penalty and then going down the other end where Richarlison added to Dominic Calvert-Lewin's opener to double the advantage.

The Blues crumbled under Newcastle's second-half recovery, however, and Silva made his complaints about the circumstances surrounding the winner known to referee Lee Mason in no uncertain terms at the final whistle.

The Everton boss complained, apparently too vehemently, that Ayoze Perez's winning goal was clearly offside.

"It was a clear offside,” he went to say in his post-match interview. “If you see the image it's not just one player or two players in offside positions, there were five Newcastle players in the same line in offside positions.”

But the Silva accepted the charge of improper conduct at an Independent Regulatory Commission hearing on Tuesday.

Silva was perhaps fortunate it did not result in a touchline ban like that recently handed to Tottenham boss, Mauricio Pochettino.

 

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Minik Hansen
1 Posted 19/03/2019 at 18:45:04
Well, the publicity is good. It seems the game against Newcastle has shaken Marco Silva up a bit. Can't ask the fans to get behind the boss, but this he made it his own and stood up for something long overdue.

We saw something good against Newcastle and Chelsea; now here's for some continuity, keep that energy rolling until at least the summer for the new recruitment for the squad.

Brian Harrison
2 Posted 19/03/2019 at 18:58:00
I see Sky Sports News are reporting that the FA are looking at allegations of a coin being thrown at Barkley on Sunday. It doesn't say whether this incident was reported to the match referee, or some time later. I have to say, being at the match, I didn't see either Barkley or anyone from Chelsea approach the referee or the 4th official.
Paul Birmingham
3 Posted 19/03/2019 at 19:01:45
All things considered, there should be parity and the contenders for the worst bunch of cowboy officials this season should also be fined.

They were crap from start to finish in this game, and both sides had very poor decisions made against them.

Also, will match refs and linesmen stop wearing red vision contact lenses as, yet again, Milner will be on for 10, and all mainly from penalties.

Rant over.

Derek Knox
4 Posted 19/03/2019 at 19:39:49
Paul @3,

I agree totally regarding officials, getting it wrong so often, which infuriates thousands of supporters, which in most cases, television replay proves the majority of decisions to be erroneous.

Having said that, I know it's a demanding, and often thankless job, but they are getting paid handsomely at the top level. I know they don't have the benefit of replay at the time (maybe they should) but some decisions are, let's be honest marginal, but a great deal are not.

Rugby seem to be streaks ahead of us in that respect, and it should not be that difficult for us to emulate them. I know VAR is to be introduced, by I hope it is used in all areas of play, and not just contentious goalmouth issues.

Even VAR has, before it has been implemented officially raised many potential questions: Should the VAR panel be made up of only referees? Who, like many professions 'tend to piss in the same pot, and cover there erstwhile colleagues' mistakes'!

We all love the game, even though the money side of it at top level has become ridiculous, but those decisions should be in any game correct, whether it be a Championship or lower division game. We all know how much a couple of poor decisions can affect promotion/relegation, and it can have a massive impact on some Clubs less fortunate than ourselves.

Getting back to Marco's fine, is he really going to have to eat liver this next month instead of Prime Cut Beef? In many ways, I applaud him for at long last showing some sort of passion, as opposed to elbows akimbo or folded, and looking like a kid who has just been told he's not having an ice-cream like all the others.

The Officials should be questioned, but it is an empty gesture in reality as they will rarely reverse any decision, I say rarely, because Red and Yellow Cards do get reversed, when proven beyond all doubt (through mistaken identity or video) but goals and ultimately points don't!

Stan Schofield
5 Posted 19/03/2019 at 19:48:51
About 0.4% of his salary, equivalent to £100 fine to someone with the UK average salary, so a bit like the latter paying to go on a speed awareness course. In other words, it was well worth it for the publicity, demonstrating passion to the players and supporters, and telling the authorities that the officiating is shite.
Terry McLavey
6 Posted 19/03/2019 at 20:04:49
Paul #3 — well said!

I wonder if the "officials" are fined by the FA when they make horrendous decisions – or non-decisions – against the big clubs? I doubt anyone will ever penetrate their private club! Disgraceful!

Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 19/03/2019 at 20:25:49
Only twelve grand? No wonder the FA are fucking brewsted.
Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 19/03/2019 at 21:13:07
I agree. The Mina substitution was the most improper conduct I've seen from an Everton manager since The Fat Guy ate off the training table with his fingers.
Andy Riley
9 Posted 19/03/2019 at 21:44:14
What about the linesman who missed FIVE Newcastle players offside for the third goal??? No sanction for absolute gross incompetence!
Paul Birmingham
10 Posted 19/03/2019 at 21:47:27
All a very good thread and if we all agree that the FA, in its breeches of fair play i.e. equivalence standards for use of VAR, and the manner referees literally get away with consistently poor performances, do bring football into disrepute, in my opinion.

I know it's not a perfect world but surely if the ethos is in continuous improvement, then why don't they do this whereby the same rules apply to match referees and linesmen, as to the players?

It's an irk since Maine Road, 1977, and Clive Thomas. For a few years we get some good referees, and now in the Premier League I don't see any signs of a decent referee.

Yep and we grin and bear it for eternity.

Tom Bowers
11 Posted 19/03/2019 at 22:06:23
It's not that officials are getting it wrong so much as they are missing so many glaringly obvious things.

The offside goal that Aguero scored should have been flagged by the female linesperson. I just wonder if sufficient training is given to these officials before they are let loose in the Premier League.

I can understand the frustration of managers when points are dropped thanks to clangers by officials but the playing field should be level and players also should be fined after the fact when they get in a refs' face to remonstrate and far too many do it without punishment.

My biggest beef is referees showing no guts in penalty area incidents preferring to penalize the forward and rather than the offending defender – particularly at corner kicks when defenders are clutching and grabbing all over the place. For God's sake, let's stamp that out of the game.

We all hope VAR will eradicate many game-altering decisions or non-decisions.

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 19/03/2019 at 22:38:12
Andy #9, if there were a sanction, you wouldn't know about it. The Premier League doesn't make its referee actions public.

Best way to tell is to check the referee assignments for next weekend's games. If that assistant referee isn't assigned a game, it likely means he got set down for blowing that call.

Paul #10, Oliver could be world-class if he can ditch the attitude – technically he's superb, but he's in danger of turning into an arrogant dickhead like Dean.

I do like the way Tierney handles a game, although he'll never be one of the greats.

But you're right, the standard is sagging.

Adam Carey
13 Posted 19/03/2019 at 22:50:14
So Marco is not allowed to remonstrate against a shockingly poor decision with the official who made it, yet the highly popular manager across the park is allowed to invade the pitch to celebrate a goal..?
John Cook
14 Posted 19/03/2019 at 22:55:12
I don't think there was any refs from England in the last World Cup showing how shite the standard has become.
Jason Leung
15 Posted 19/03/2019 at 23:25:25
How can a manager be punished for ranting to the referee for a blatant and obvious mistake? I understand punishment for insults or abuse, but I highly doubt Marco Silva went that far.

If an obvious mistake was made, in my opinion, the manager has every right to rant to the referee.

Paul Kelly
16 Posted 19/03/2019 at 23:59:12
Joke, absolute joke, so you remonstrate about an absolutely diabolical decision (a wrong decision backed by technology) and for being right, your fined.

I had wrote a ninety twelve page novel explaining why, but fuck it, this next one is much more simple.

The FA, and all governing bodies are corrupt as fuck, can anyone explain the Clattenburg derby? No official could be that incompetent, ever, for any match.

But then Collina referees an Everton match even though he's past retirement age? Here is a quote from the Guardian

"From the resulting corner the Scot headed in only for Pierluigi Collina – who had been allowed by Uefa to defer retirement despite reaching the required age – to blow for a pull by Marcus Bent. Replays showed the Everton man was fouled".

I won't go over too much old ground over that one, but then you have Platini (funnily enough an attacking player) trying to outlaw any tackle on any player within the distance of an Astronomical Unit (distance between Sun and earth), but someone so powerful he has influence.

Can anyone explain the several non-decisions since Niasse being charged over being fouled at Crystal Palace? Despite the 9012 dives by those dirty cheating red scum across the park that the FA won't challenge, the game is a fucking joke in this respect.

One rule for one, one for everyone else? The FA? All I sense is corruption... Sky, the BBC and it's media poo jabbers have a bias that borders on media-driven propaganda that the world ain't seen for a long time.

I love football as much as anyone, but I see this cheating, socially acceptable scum, dirty cheating agenda reel its ugly face in my lad's football games on a Sunday. Managers too scared to bring up blatant bias against referees as they'll be banned without question should they question the decisions before them.

Football is becoming quite frankly, shite, to some one of my generation (41), it's a million miles from what I grew up with but it ain't improved despite the millions pumped in to grass roots. If anything, it’s got worse.

Paul Kelly
18 Posted 20/03/2019 at 00:10:17
Oh and just to add, Salah got goal of the season – against us, despite Gareth Bale's wonder overhead kick in the (non-) Champions League final?

Biased? — never... not in a month of Sundays.

Paul Kelly
19 Posted 20/03/2019 at 00:35:03
Don't get me started on "winning the ball but getting the man" bollocks. Who sanctioned the "If you get the ball, intentionally, but the other fella falls over" red card rule? Seriously? Who? It's a joke.

Football is now a game for fanny's. I reckon there's several posters who'll disagree, I bet none played centre-half?

Not saying attackers are fanny's, just saying the art of a good defender doing perfectly timed challenges, a la Jagielka v Wolves which is an art form of football (in itself), is being ruined by pussies in power that want to turn it into a men's version of volleyball, ie, no contact. If you don't want a contact sport, play bowls.

Rob Marsh
20 Posted 20/03/2019 at 01:37:05
£12k?

That should see him in the poor house asking for a second bowl of gruel.

He'll have to sell his wife's Bentley or switch the heating to his swimming pool off to pay for it.


Derek Knox
21 Posted 20/03/2019 at 01:42:26
Paul @17,18, and 19, I will have to remind you, that in case you have failed to notice, that the implication of these rules is extremely selective, and generally only applies to the Media/Sky 3, 4, 5, or 6 – whichever way you interpret it.

Rules are for everyone, mate, and so it should be, but you and I both know that, dependent on which side of the tracks you are, those 'Rules' are only selectively applied.

This is true in life and every other 'facet' of it, don't you feel a lot better knowing we live in a 'democratic and fair society'? :-) :-)

Paul Kelly
22 Posted 20/03/2019 at 02:10:30
Well said, Mr Knox, I get it completely!!!!
Paul Kelly
23 Posted 20/03/2019 at 02:38:16
To be honest, I like to see how the difference between old school and modern day attitudes exists.

I'll post an article in the next couple of days.

Alan J Thompson
24 Posted 20/03/2019 at 02:52:41
If VAR is introduced, I would like to see what it is that is shown to the Referee, that is, show it on the main screen at those grounds that have them so, as jurists say, justice is not only done but seen to be done. Mistakes are made in all walks of life but at the moment the standard of refereeing is abysmal – but is it due to the standard of the individual or the speed of the game?

Anyone remember the argument that the standard would improve if they were made fully fledged professio nals rather than just a second, weekend job?

Chad Schofield
25 Posted 20/03/2019 at 03:09:03
It does make a couple of interesting points:

A) Should fines be reflective of salary?

B) Will VAR eradicate most nonsense?

£12k may be a mere drop in the ocean for our manager, or say someone on a Rooney-esque salary, but it's a fair chunk to most mortals. I initially was going to suggest youth players might struggle, but of course they wouldn't. Perhaps it's more of a sad indictment of the game that a fine the size of approximately half the national average annual wage is so insignificant in comparison to Premier League wages.

I understand the need to fine individuals for disrespecting officials, as this arguably filters down across the game and even wider society. Given the Grealish incident etc, the FA have to act – and do. Perhaps though these fined would be better unpublished... but then with footballer's salaries always at the forefront of reports, it could then seem secretive.

With regards to VAR, I just can't see how it would be worse. We might even be still in the FA Cup (I know it's technically in the cup – but just because The Den didn't officially have cameras doesn't take away the point in principle), Pickford could have gone against Newcastle and have been banned against Chelsea – and who'd argue if the decisions were given? There would still be enough contention, skill and wonderment for people to discuss – it's just that while the rest of the world instantly know whether five players were on or off, whether Pickford was making a case to become a rugby star, or if Alonso's foot made enough contact with Richarlison – so would the officials.

Paul Kelly
26 Posted 20/03/2019 at 03:58:21
Thing is, Chad, the FA have had opportunities to sort this out. What would you have done if your team had been knocked out of the 1986 World Cup via handball like England had? Was the technology available?

Would any football body put up with the antics of Saurez, during his season with the red shite if they weren't biased?

If anybody wants to argue this point, feel free to participate!!!!!

Jim Harrison
28 Posted 20/03/2019 at 04:54:13
Why should the fine be more? Did he assault or strike the referee?

He did something they seem inappropriate, and had to pay a fine. Fine is not outrageous, but when you consider a football player who gets caught speeding pays the same fine as Joe Public. A manager who gets caught for inappropriate conduct (not a legal offence!!) gets a fine of half a year's salary to Joe Public.

That said, Klopp only paid £8,000 for his pitch run. Something that, in my mind, is at least as bad. The potential for causing a ruckus in the away fans, plus wrongly entering the field of play?

Darren Hind
29 Posted 20/03/2019 at 05:48:14
Paul K,

You're 100% right, of course, but – for the sake of your own sanity – leave it alone, mate. You'll drive yourself nuts.

Paul Tran
30 Posted 20/03/2019 at 07:47:39
Marco will find £12k down the back of his sofa. He'll regard it as money well spent for demonstrating some passion, being correct, and setting out a marker for the future.
Kim Vivian
31 Posted 20/03/2019 at 08:50:30
I agree with Paul – £12,000 to Silva is like someone on £24,000 getting about a £75 fine. Fuck the fine, well worth it to see some passion.

Klopp's fine was for the pitch invasion, Silva's for getting in the officials' faces, so not directly comparable. And as a matter of comparison, what was Pochettino fined?

Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 20/03/2019 at 09:37:14
Paul @19,

I was the opposite of a big hard centre-half but I'm in despair at some of the hard tackles that get punished these days.

You have phoneys, like Shearer, sitting in the studio condemning it and that takes me back to your earlier comment, on post #16, about cheating being socially acceptable (as long as we get away with it... eh!); I don't think I've ever read anything on T/W which resonates with so much truth.

Shearer, the man who nearly took the Leicester player's head off and escaped a ban by doing the FA Trophy cup draw the following week, equals what I wrote in fucking brackets!

Paul Bernard
33 Posted 20/03/2019 at 09:41:38
VAR is a joke to be honest. 'Trialing' it during multi-million-pound games is a farce. It should be virtually bulletproof before introducing it to the league. Why we have to wait 3-5 minutes at a time for VAR officials to look at a replay is beyond me.

Plus where does it stop? Only penalties and Red cards or do we turn into American football and stop-start every few minutes whilst every throw-in and foul is analysed?

John Pickles
34 Posted 20/03/2019 at 09:52:26
The fine is the FA demonstrating they don't like to see managers losing it at officials. The lack of a touchline ban (like Pochettino), indicates he was right in what he said.
John G Davies
35 Posted 20/03/2019 at 14:50:15
Tony @32.

Neil Lennon the player. I think I'm right in saying Shearer got a walkover by threatening to withdraw from the England squad if they charged him.

Dave Abrahams
36 Posted 20/03/2019 at 21:35:16
Paul (16), a lovely and truthful explanation of the way the FA controls football today, on and off the field, and as you say (in a nice Scouse accent): “It stinks from top to bottom!”

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