Tottenham Hotspur vs Everton

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André Gomes is expected to face the side against which he suffered a horrible ankle fracture in November

Unbeaten since the post-lockdown resumption, Everton travel to Tottenham for a difficult Monday-evening assignment knowing that they will need to keep winning in order to retain an interest in the European qualification picture.

The Blues will come into the fixture on the back of successive Premier League victories but five points adrift of Arsenal in seventh place with six games left. A first win on Spurs' turf in 12 years would lift them into ninth place and back into the thick of the race for the Europa League, with games against rivals Wolves and Sheffield United to come.

Trips to the Capital and North London, in particular, have yielded precious little for Everton for most of the Premier League era but, with Carlo Ancelotti demonstrating his savviness in each of the last three matches, there is hope that the club's fortunes in fixtures like these will soon change.

Tottenham could either be in purposeful mood, bent on rebounding from a poor performance and result at Bramall Lane in midweek, or continue to display erratic and vulnerable form under Jose Mourinho. They comfortably despatched West Ham at home on 23 June and held Manchester United in an entertaining contest before that but they haven't looked entirely convincing since the restart.

Everton, meanwhile, have been improving in parallel with their fitness and match sharpness and, having beaten Leicester last time out, they'll be looking to make it three wins on the spin for the first time this season.

Key to that will likely be a combination of the defensive resilience that has seen them conceded just once in the last three games, and Richarlison's ability to hurt teams at the other end of the pitch. The Brazilian scored his 13th goal of the season with the opener against the Foxes and his partnership with Dominic Calvert-Lewin is likely to be pivotal again provided, as is expected, he overcomes the knock to his ankle that forced him off just shy of the hour mark on Wednesday. (He was pictured training as normal at Finch Farm on Sunday.)

That solidity at the back and the return to fitness of Yerry Mina presents Ancelotti with a conundrum, albeit one that the coming glut of games in short order will afford him some leeway to address. The manager may feel that his starting central-defensive pairing of Michael Keane and Mason Holgate, both of whom have been excellent over the past three matches, will have had sufficient rest since Wednesday and will be fine to start again. He may elect to rotate one of them on Thursday but it would not be a surprise to see the back line unchanged.

The same goes for midfield, where André Gomes and Gylfi Sigurdsson were solid if unspectacular against Leicester and both Anthony Gordon and Alex Iwobi acquitted themselves well.

Spurs are dangerous when they're in the mood and, in the likes of Harry Kane and Steven Bergwijn, they have proven match-winners but they have registered just one victory in six games and are struggling to meet the expectation that they would qualify for the Champions League this season.

The assumption is that the hosts will have most of the ball but, if Everton can keep things tight and look to pounce on the break, they could prey on those doubts and frailties that appear to be dogging Mourinho's men and finally come away with three points from this part of the Capital.

Kick-off: 8pm, Monday 6 July 2020
Referee: Graham Scott
VAR: Kevin Friend
Last Time: Tottenham Hotspur 2 - 2 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Holgate, Digne, Gomes, Sigurdsson, Iwobi, Gordon, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin

 

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Joe McMahon
1 Posted 05/07/2020 at 21:02:20
Guys, a quick question as we all know there are certain teams/grounds where we have a pitiful away record. So the question is when did we last win away at Spurs?

I just don't know. I know Arsenal is 1996, and I'm sure it can't be that bad.

Rob Halligan
2 Posted 05/07/2020 at 21:08:18
Joe, we're unbeaten at the new WHL. Look on the positive side! The last time we won at the old WHL was November 2008 1-0. Corluka scored an own goal.
Jamie Crowley
3 Posted 05/07/2020 at 21:11:18
Didn't we beat them 3-1 under Moyes at their place?
Rob Halligan
4 Posted 05/07/2020 at 21:15:17
Jamie, we won at the old WHL three years on the bounce. 2006-07 2-0. 2007-08 3-1 and 2008-09 1-0.
Joe McMahon
5 Posted 05/07/2020 at 21:29:38
Thanks for clarifying Rob and Jamie. I do have vague recollections of a Tony Hibbert cross leading to a goal.
Mark Andersson
6 Posted 06/07/2020 at 02:41:57
Hard one to call... though it would be nice to beat a London team.

It really does come down to form, confidence and luck.

On form, we could get a result... confidence in the back-line should be high... we have rode our luck at times.

Refs and VAR are always a hindrance to our game.

If the midfield could play to maximum level then we can beat anyone on the day.

It will be tight and I feel, if we get the first goal, we can win it.

Kieran Kinsella
7 Posted 06/07/2020 at 03:47:32
We can win. Mourinho has only been at Spurs six months and he's already in one of his dark moods implying we have shady officials, and that his team are not trying, and that's just in the last few days.

Based on his previous roles, he doesn't seem like someone who is great at overcoming problems. He just seems to take the hump. Consequently, we are well-positioned to win here. The only problem is. our team. We lack craft. So I suspect this will be a dour 0-0 that does neither team any good.

But if we get a bit of luck and ruthlessness, one goal could send Mourinho into a tailspin, be it a scuffed Sigurdsson penalty, a rebound off Keane's ass or whatever. Get it in the net and they will fold. You heard it hear first, folks.

Jim Bennings
8 Posted 06/07/2020 at 06:51:53
Yet another bogey ground of ours... Christ, we do bad records better than anyone, I'd be almost proud of how many poor records we have if it wasn't so bad.

We haven't beaten Spurs home or away since the drama of Jelavic's injury-time winner way back under David Moyes (when Moyes's stock was still sky high, so that tells you how long ago it was).

Hand on heart, unless we get the first goal tonight, it's hard to see us winning because our general play has been pretty tepid, even in the games we have held on to win.

The midfield pedestrian nature and the slow, slow attacking build-up concerns me against the better sides, especially away from home, where historically we just never seem to produce a performance.

Maybe we will get a surprise but I've watched Everton long enough to know that surprises don't usually happen all that often.

Frank Sheppard
9 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:08:51
Big test for us. I am sure Carlo will want to get one over on Mourinho. Looking forward to being able to comment on Carlo's tactical acumen, and moving up the table.
Sam Hoare
10 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:18:56
Tough one as they may be due a good performance.

Despite the result we were overrun at times against Leicester in midfield until Carlo brought on Davies and changed formation. We all know that we need reinforcements in the middle and at some point that is going to cost us.

Also interesting to think we now have 5 games in 14 days so rotation will have to play a part at some point. We'll see starts for the likes of Sidibé, Mina, Kean etc at some point.

Alan J Thompson
11 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:27:25
Look, we don't mention results at this lot's ground as there is a thorn there that cannot be removed and Jimmy Harris scored a hat-trick!
Duncan McDine
12 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:32:04
Joe, I remember going there during the Moyes era and we beat them with 10 men. I think Kilbane got sent off in the first half... not sure who scored for us but remember Mark Pembridge stood out (a very under rated player in the mould of Carsley). That was one hell of an enjoyable away day.
Eddie Dunn
13 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:44:36
Apart from the penalty and Richarlison's nice strike, I don't recall Schmeichel making a save. To take the points, we have to create more chances. Instead, I expect us to keep trying to catch them on the break. Richarlison is the one player with the class to make a difference.

They are not firing on all cylinders. They look an unhappy bunch, as Mourinho's sour personality has infected their core.

Despite that, they hold most of the aces – in Kane, Moura, Alli, and Son – and I will be amazed if we can keep out that lot.

It will be the first time Gomes has faced Son (correct me if I'm wrong) since that terrible foul.

We should have won at Goodison with Dele getting away with a clear handball on VAR. Let's hope for some Karma tonight.

Jim Bennings
14 Posted 06/07/2020 at 07:55:34
The game you guys refer to is 26 August 2006 at White Hart Lane.

Kilbane walked in the first half after two yellows (his last ever act in an Everton shirt, he was sold days later).

Callum Davenport scored an own goal on 53 minutes and our new boy, Andy Johnson (remember he started like a house on fire), made it 2-0 on 66 minutes.

I recall that day Leon Osman absolutely schooling Edgar Davids and Spurs fans drooling over Mikel Arteta running the show 3 years on the spin at the Lane. Arteta was even better there during the 3-1 win in August 2007 (Osman, Lescott and Stubbs with the goals).

Paul Setter
15 Posted 06/07/2020 at 08:13:32
We haven't beaten them since 2012, so long overdue. I watched them against Sheffield United and they were strolling around and were comfortably smashed.

I think Everton will beat them today. I know our record at the so-called bigger sides is appalling but, in my opinion, Spurs aren't a bigger club and have massively over-achieved for a few years, mainly due to the manager and having Kane.

I think Everton will be celebrating another 3 points under the best manager we have had for 35 years.

Richard Nelson
16 Posted 06/07/2020 at 08:16:44
Was it 1958.. when EFC lost 10-4 to Spurs?

They left Crewe Station on platform 10, and arrived back on platform 4... maybe the other way round?

Martin Berry
17 Posted 06/07/2020 at 08:22:22
It depends which Spurs team turns up, as the high-energy relentless pressure team that they once were seems to have evaporated since Mourinho has been in charge.

They are vulnerable to set- pieces, a position that we have worked and improved on so there is a chance we can pinch something.

It will be interesting how Carlo sets us up and if we can gain enough possession to be effective. I smell a draw tonight but of course want a win.

Jim Bennings
18 Posted 06/07/2020 at 08:43:15
It depends on which Spurs team turns up, yes, but equally, as Eddie #13 points out, we need to start creating more chances.

Spurs have often turned in shit performances against us but we've never taken advantage of them, so I'd say it's more on Everton than them.

I need to start seeing our midfielders actually push up and support around the penalty area more frequently.

Also, they need to start shooting more too. When I watch Everton, what hits me compared to other sides I see is that none of our midfielders ever shoot from distance anymore, a lot can happen with a pot shot, as that kid for Southampton found out last night.

Already, Carlo has been away to Liverpool (the kid side in the Cup), Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea and we've lost them all so I think he needs to get a result tonight – otherwise, it's following a very symmetrical pattern of many other Everton managers in big games.

It's high time we start living up to the billing of a team that has aspirations, there's enough international footballers in our team, enough money has been spent, it's time to start mixing with the big boys and stop having 3-year plans that never bear fruit.

Laurie Hartley
19 Posted 06/07/2020 at 08:47:44
Chance to go 9th here and snapping at the heals of Arsenal, Sheffield Utd, and Burnley. During Silva's and Koeman's reigns, this would have been a banker loss under such circumstances.

Let's see what we are made of and if we have learned anything from the last visit to the big smoke.

Robert Workman
20 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:00:07
I am exasperated that, despite, gaining 7 points out of 9, we have only moved from 12th to 11th place. A draw tonight would leave us still 11th. It seems that we will have to win again to make any real progress.
Mark Burton
21 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:02:08
COYB. We have to have a chance today. Spurs will still be rattled by their previous defeat. Score first tonight and we will cruise to another Mourhino ref blunder.
Alan Rodgers
22 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:04:05
We can leapfrog Spurs and Burnley here. As Laurie @19 says, let's see what we're made of.
Eddie Dunn
23 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:11:54
I honestly think that it would be better for us tonight if there were fans in the ground. The Spurs fanbase never wanted Mourinho and he has managed to deliver a less exciting style of play and yet, has failed to get many points. The crowd would be ready to turn on him and frustration would increase the longer we were in the game.

They do have some brilliant players but, as Sheffield United have shown, it's about teamwork.

Derek Moore
24 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:22:02
I watched Sheffield Utd roll them in their last outing. They were not great, but the game really changed on that poor VAR call.

I feel we'll need a bit of luck to get the 3 points today and an effort from our centre-backs. Kane is the most complete striker I've seen since Shearer or Van Nistelrooy. Alli is mercurial. Prior to that awful foul, I was a big fan of Son as well, a real grafter and underrated player.

I'm hoping for that luck but my hunch is 1-1, Kane in the first half and a late equalizer from Richarlison. Mourinho and our own boss know how to set out a side, so it could be a sluggish affair to boot.

Hope I'm wrong, and Come on you Blues!

Jim Bennings
25 Posted 06/07/2020 at 09:35:56
Derek,

That for me might just be the difference tonight, the fact that they have Kane a striker that usually scores against us and he's in that elite group that needs on every sight of goal to score.

I'm not sure we have the type of player that can score a goal with one chance regular enough, Calvert-Lewin still needs too many sights of goal despite him improving a lot this season. He's still not quite the type of player that, as an opposing fan, you would fear him killing you dead.

Son and Alli are good players; Son is a brilliant player for me – better than Alli.

It will be a game of few chances, I think... two great historical managers that have seen and won it all but, in recent times, have erred on the cautious side.

Jonathan Tasker
26 Posted 06/07/2020 at 10:15:37
Mourinho is a busted flush so this represents a great opportunity to win away at one of the Sky Big Six.

As I recall, our only away win at the Sky Big Six in about 10 years is when we won away at Manchester United when Moyes was their manager...

In other words, around one win in 50 matches,

Mike Allison
27 Posted 06/07/2020 at 10:26:51
It's hard to see past 0-0 for this one. I think I can just make out 1-1 in the distance, with 1-0 and 0-1 in between.

Anyone watching the game can thank me tomorrow for the seven goal thriller that will probably come to pass now.

We have three ‘winnable' (I hope you know what I mean) home games and three away games against the teams directly above us. This means our fate is in our own hands.

No-one has started the traditional Europa League debate yet, perhaps it'll kick in if we win tonight?

Michael Kenrick
28 Posted 06/07/2020 at 10:48:02
Only one mention of Tom Davies, by Sam at #10.

I didn't recall him doing much after he came on against Leicester but I decided to review this after plenty on here said he had played well in a crucial change of formation that enabled us to hold out for the win.

For most of his half-hour, he stayed pretty central and deep, the base of the diamond, I believe. He kept the shape in a pretty disciplined manner, only venturing forward in two very impressive sorties towards the end.

What I did not see on Wednesday night was probably the most annoying part of his game previously, where he'd go in recklessly and tangle clumsily, giving away a free-kick and possibly earning a yellow. But there was none of that. He didn't even man-mark Maddison but somehow was in the space Maddison wanted to dominate, and that seemingly was enough to disrupt their flow. Once, he tried what could have been a great through ball, but it went to a defender who anticipated it, rather than our striker.

On both those runs, he beat a couple of Foxes and made two lovely impressive forays with the ball down the right channel, looking to feed our dozy forwards who had no idea what was going on and completely wasted the opportunities he tried to create. But I'm told they don't get any supply from our midfield, so I was probably missing something here...

I will credit Carlo for the improvement in his game. Perhaps with Schneiderlin now gone, Iwobi still ineffective (and shitting out of at least two challenges on Wednesday) and Sigurdsson a complete nonentity, it is time for Tom to show us what he can do? I think I'd prefer to see him in the starting line-up tonight.

Robert Williams
29 Posted 06/07/2020 at 10:48:27
RN 16. Don't know about the platforms at Crewe Station but I was at White Hart Lane in February 1960 when Spurs put 13 past Crewe in the cup. They had a good team in those days.
Martin Reppion
30 Posted 06/07/2020 at 10:57:04
As Mike implies, we need to win the home games and be happy with whatever points we get from the away games. Tonight and the Wolves match are the tough ones. Spurs have some class acts as mentioned above.

We have to continue to play better than the sum of our parts to win here. But, I am happy that, in the 3 games so far, we have seen progress.

To start that debate... The benefit of Europa League qualification is that playing in it seems to encourage players to join a club. The downside is the need for a bigger squad and potentially more 'deadwood' being kept.

With the set-up we have and Carlo in charge, we may still attract a better class of player without having to spend like a pools winner if we don't offer European footy next season.

My hope is that, if we take the 12 points plus anything from Wolves and Spurs, we will have done enough. But, in the big scheme of things, I would just like us to get this season over with and move on. Whatever happens, next season HAS to be better.

Robert Tressell
31 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:01:37
I'd like to see Tom Davies in centre-midfield alongside Sigurdsson. Gomes doesn't look fit to me yet. Gylfi has been dull but steady and more involved than Gomes. Goal threat too. Iwobi and Gordon both worth more time on the flanks – unless we use Sidibé to nullify the threat of Bergwijn or Son or Moura.

They are good but Mourinho seems to have drained a lot of life from them and the first 11 is a Work in Progress...

Brent Stephens
32 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:06:08
Richard #16 - the Highway Patrol game! A close game until we kicked off.
Craig Walker
33 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:13:38
I'm interested to see how we perform at our traditional bogey grounds with no fans in the stadium. It's got to help our chances. I still think Spurs have a better team than us but hoping we can get a win there for a change and continue our decent mini revival.
Tom Bowers
34 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:37:05
Been some odd results in all games since the Premier League started up again so why not this one or is the one which finally kills Everton's slim Europe hopes.

Spurs have been running hot and cold and the break up of Vertonghen and Alderwereld has seen their defence become suspect which Everton may capitalize on if the midfield can play well.

A fixture that hasn't boded well for a long, long time not since Andy Johnston scored there so why not another win today.

Brent Stephens
35 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:40:32
To the extent that confidence matters, I see us going into tonight's game with a good degree of confidence (doing well under Carlo; defence looking solid...); and I see Spurs as stuttering under the miserable one, with much less confidence than they normally have.

The end-of-season game there last year showed us what we can do there, having conceded a very early goal and then going ahead.

Brian Harrison
36 Posted 06/07/2020 at 11:58:55
Obviously Mourhino is hoping that by having a right go publicly at his players after the Sheffield game, he will get a response tonight. We need the same start as we had against Leicester, and put this Spurs side under pressure.

I guess, with 5 games in 14 days coming up Carlo, will be forced to make changes. I hope he starts Gordon again tonight, who looked very promising against Leicester.

A win would really set up a good finish to the season, and would build confidence for the start of the new season.

Daniel A Johnson
37 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:05:49
Interesting match tonight. Spurs to be honest despte the odd jewel are awful and still surrendering to Mourinhos brand of narcisssim.

I remember saying though that we would get something from Chelsea away and look how that turned out. Spurs record at their new ground is awful though.

1-1 prediction

Christopher Timmins
38 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:36:26
We will need a better performance than the one last week to get something from the game. A win tonight would show definite progression and I think 7th spot would then be a realistic target.

Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:37:21
Everyone sees the game differently, or maybe want different things, but in every game we have created chances, so the most important thing for me tonight is to carry on in the same vein, by continuing to make it difficult for our opponents to create chances. This is the most important thing for myself right now, a platform to finally build?
Dave Abrahams
40 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:48:37
I'm a big fan of Jose Mourhino but he doesn't seem to be as exceptional as he was, it certainly looks like he isn't getting the best out of these Spurs players with the system he is using, and they look like they don't care much for his system.

In the past, Jose could surprise the opposition by changing his style of play; now, he just seems to amble along. I hope he doesn't come to life tonight and get Spurs in a proper mood to win this game.

I'll be happy with another draw but wouldn't be surprised if Carlo pulls another win out of the bag, even if it doesn't look pretty.

David Hallwood
41 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:50:23
Unlikely, but I'd like to start with 3 at the back and Sidibe given the nod over Coleman, as the wingback.

Tough one to call, but the fact that their defence was all over the place vs Sheff U is encouraging

Graeme Beresford
42 Posted 06/07/2020 at 12:55:59
If Arsenal and Southampton have proved anything over the last few days it's ‘anything can happen in the Premier League'.

Unfortunately for us, Spurs have just been stuffed by Sheff United and will want to exact some sort of revenge, especially at home, and probably at our expense.

We will need to be smart defensively but I do think this is going to be a midfield battle. The gap is now becoming stretched in terms of finishing top ten or bottom ten for us and today is another must win game if we are to make a late push for Europe, if we lose, well that's our season over and done with, I feel.

Only good thing is last time we played Spurs that had Eriksen and Poch was their manager. They still don't look comfortable under Jose and haven't adapted well to his playing style. Hopefully we can ruffle a few feather and sneak a cheeky 1-0, which would be a brilliant result. Here's hoping though. Kane, always dangerous but I do feel the way Keane is playing, he may have the better of him.

Coyb

Jerome Shields
43 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:02:07
In my opinion Mourinho will play it tight and cagey. But does he had the players with the motivation and ability.

I can't phantom Tottenham not being able to work things out with Pochettino, and him appearing to lose the dressing room, inside a short period.

Pochettino is still unemployed, like a Mark ll Silva.

Robert Tressell
44 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:08:39
I used to admire Mourinho as a man who could improve players individually and lift whole teams. But it's been a while since we've seen that. To me he seems to have fallen out of love with football. Still an excellent tactician with a few top players at his disposal, but he won't have Carlo or our patched up team particularly worried. We'll defend deep, squeeze the space and hope Richarlison or DCL (or pray to god kean) will pinch a goal.
Andrew Keatley
45 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:09:08
As Tom Bowers (31) says, the Spurs defence is in flux. Mourinho seems to be persevering with the central defensive pairing of the erratic but talented Davinson Sanchez and the painfully slow Eric Dier.

Mourinho might decide to swallow his pride and recall Alderweireld and/or Vertonghen, but the Spurs defence - and defensive midfield - is significantly weaker than it has been in the last five or so years.

My guess is that we would benefit from being bold and trying to put pressure on them from the off, rather than give the impetus to their talented (if slightly underperforming) attacking unit.

Fran Mitchell
46 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:12:23
I don't view this as the must-win some are making out. But I think must-not-lose is closer to it. An away draw will keep morale up, and give confidence going to Wolves and Sheffield away. The home games against Southampton, Villa and Wolves should be 9 points (not that Southampton are pushovers), if we can get between 3-5 in the away games, that would represent a really strong finish to the season.

Spurs are a real Jekyll and Hyde team, and that Dutch lad is dangerous.

1-1 is expect, 1-2 I hope

Derek Knox
47 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:12:57
As mentioned previously we have to be fairly high in confidence, with the results of late, plus with Carlo v Mourinho it adds a battle of wits and experience. Spurs haven't enjoyed a lot of superiority at their new ground and have fallen to the unexpected.

Let's make sure we don't buck that trend, 3 points and we are going to be taken seriously, by the the other upcoming opponents.

Euro qualification is still a possibility, although a fairly slim one, and will still depend on how teams around us perform, which of course we have no control over.

COYB

Jamie Crowley
48 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:22:08
I'd like to see the same diamond midfield that worked to great affect agains Leicester, with a these players:

Davies deep
Bernard. Richarlison
Sigurdsson

Then stick Moise Kean up top with Calvert-Lewis.

All of that is immaterial however in my mind. This game is all about Spurs, not us. I think the players hate Jose. I think they want to revolt. They'll go out and play. If they get on the front foot, they'll continue forward and most likely be too much to handle. If on the other hand, we take the initiative and their heads start to drop, it's game over.

It's a very unhappy camp at Tottenham. Hopefully the negativity starts quickly against the Blues, and they dig their own grave.

Tony Everan
49 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:32:30
As has been said, depends on which Tottenham turns up. After the bad defeat to Sheffield Utd, they will be fired up. Jose will put some extra coal on the fire and I expect a frantic start of he game from them.

If we remain disciplined and get through that initial wave, I think we are well in this match. We can poach a goal and send them into a bit of disarray. Then Carlo will take Richarlison off and stick Tom on again for the last 30 mins and try for a repeat performance.

It's a bit optimistic but I called the correct score against Leicester so I am on a roll:

Tottenham 0 Everton 1

Steve Ferns
50 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:36:24
I hope to see the 442 diamond again. Davies deep, Gomes and Sigurdsson in the middle and Gordon at the top behind the front two with licence to drift wide either side. It's not ideal but is best with what we have.

I'd not break up the back four, and as well be sat deep, Keane should be in his element. The front two pick themselves.

Brian Murray
51 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:53:16
Gomes and Sigurdsson bring very little to the table. At least Davies attempts the killer ball and is always trying to be positive and not take the easy option.

Leave the defence alone until we can address the goalkeeping problem in the summer. Coyb let's have something to grasp after another miserable season.

Jamie Crowley
52 Posted 06/07/2020 at 13:57:35
Steve Ferns -

For me, Gomes needs a rest. He's not been good, he looks tired, his legs look heavy.

On his day he's out best midfielder, but he's been under-performing and I really think it's down to fatigue.

Saying that, he'll be MOTM no of course.

John Pierce
53 Posted 06/07/2020 at 14:01:18
I think despite the importance of the game we need to freshen it up. Three games in short order, three significantly harder than the remaining block of three. If we want the last three to mean something we have grind 5-7pts from them.

Spurs look a touch lost we look very solid, I cannot envision Carlo changing the tactics up, however the midfield needs regular rotation. Gomes should the one to give way for Davies, (I've been underwhelmed with him for some time, even pre injury; Villa away for example). Sigurdsson is doing fine as the pace of the games is much slower. I'd give Kean a start with Calvert-Lewin and plug Richarlison in wide with Gordon. Both are disciplined and can spring the front two.

Steve is right, the defense needs continuity not change. Deffo in with a shout tonight.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

54 Posted 06/07/2020 at 14:05:31
Michael @ 18. That's pretty much how I viewed Tom's performance v Leicester.

He sat deep between the lines in which Maddison was operating in and causing us problems. Without doing anything evident or spectacular Tom contributed to choking off their passing lines.

Indeed, as a result of Carlo's changes followed by Roger's own further changes, Maddison curiously dropped off to play out the game much deeper around the half-way line, which helped ease the pressure on our back line.

Tom's forays forward at the end reminded us of how good he can be. I also agree with your assessment that there were none of those clumsy challenges Tom is prone to, usually when attempting (unsuccessfully) to recover the lost ball.

Given Spurs are our next opponents, I watched their game v the Blades. Yes, the game turned on the strange VAR decision which denied Spurs an immediate equaliser to make it 1-1. And yes, they play some pretty football going forward. But - my! - they were stripped naked time and again at the back.

They have a midfield and forward line which on its day can hurt us, as well as we are playing defensively since the restart.

But equally, we have a forward line (if not a top notch midfield) which can hurt their defence.

Let's see which Spurs and which Everton turns up.

A win would start to make things very interesting in the shake down for a Euro place. A defeat would, for me, end any outside chance of that happening.

Danny Broderick
55 Posted 06/07/2020 at 14:10:40
Midfield is our weakest area, particularly centrally. But I don't think Tottenham's midfield is anything to be afraid of. Sissoko is a powerhouse, but he lacks end product and passing ability. And the likes of Lo Celso, Wicks etc might be ok players, but nothing we can't handle if we play well. I'd go 4-3-3, with Davies, Gomes and Sigurdsson behind Richarlison, Bernard and DCL. If we don't get overrun in centre mid, I'm confident we'll get something tonight. 3 points would be most welcome as it would put us above them...
Fran Mitchell
56 Posted 06/07/2020 at 14:53:21
Gordon has to play I think, he'll be buzzing after his performance and will be busting a gut to play again.

Saw something interesting in that he spent lockdown living with a Personal Trainer friend (moved out of homes as to better protect his father) and worked out every day to build muscle mass and get stronger and with results. The guy is really determined and it looks to be paying off. I think he could light up the end of our campaign.

Bernard has looked average to poor in all his appearances so far, so why people are clamouring for him to start I don't understand.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

57 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:00:35
Very close crossover of our posts there, Fran.

I agree with you that Bernard hasn't looked very effective since the re-start. I wonder how much his anxiety attack has impacted on him..?

Gordon was excellent v Leicester and did well v Liverpool.

I really like how Carlo talks about him, saying very explicitly that he isn't a token selection and getting played because he is a boy from the academy, but because he is the best choice for the position and is in the team on merit.

That has got to be a huge lift to a lad as young as Gordon to hear a manager of Carlo's standing talking about him in that way.

The same with telling Richarlison that he is in the top 10 of all the strikers that Carlo has managed.

How true and sincere all this is from Carlo is neither here nor there. It's good man-management either way to fill the respective players with confidence.

Fran Mitchell
58 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:07:34
Quite possible Jay, considering his troubles with depression, Lockdown and distance from family in Brazil could have had quite considerable impact on the guy, who in the grand scheme of things, is still a young guy (albeit being 'middle aged' in football terms).

He's looked lethargic and clumsy in his appearances so far. I like him, think he's a good option to have, but think the bench is his best place considering what we want going forward.

Danny Broderick
59 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:11:32
Fran,

The main reason I would put Bernard in for Gordon is formation. Gordon has played wide midfield in a 4-4-2 the last couple of matches. I think we need 3 in the middle tonight, that's why I'd put Bernard on one flank, and Richarlison on the other. Gordon has done a disciplined job at wide midfield, but I'm not sure he is attacking enough to play as a wide forward...

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

60 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:12:31
I may be wrong Fran, but this is the second part of an earlier interview with Bernard and I think he returned to Brazil for at least part of the lockdown, thus his mention of being close to family members and a newborn nephew.

His problems pre-date CV-19, but as you are only too well aware, Brazil is not a happy place to be right now with the shite that is going down here.

UK or Brazil-based, it must prey on his mind. It's a nice interview, not always a comfortable one for him.

Brent Stephens
61 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:16:10
Fran, Jay. Yes, I'd also be disappointed to see Bernard start (though there's something about the guy I love - probably his size, like mine); and I want to see Gordon get an extended run of starts. I'm really hoping he'll soon get into those amazing, jinking runs we're used to seeing from him in the U23s. He's also less of a lightweight than Bernard when it comes to making and withstanding a challenge.
Brent Stephens
62 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:20:25
Danny #59 "I'm not sure [Gordon] is attacking enough to play as a wide forward...".

Danny, wide forward has been his U23's position, left or right. Maybe Carlo is just asking him to restrict his play to tracking back, closing down, making simple passes etc, while he finds his feet and confidence in the first team - with a view to letting him have his head sooner or later (hopefully sooner).

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

63 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:22:55
Bernard is a lovely footballer and fellah Brent and IMO a lot more resilient to the physical cut and thrust of the PL than some give him credit for.

I've seen him retain and win back the ball many times against monoliths considerably larger than him. Not difficult to encounter as, if I'm correct in saying, he remains the smallest player in the PL.

But if we are selecting on merit, Gordon looks ahead of him at the moment. And Anthony hasn't yet shown what pace and after-burners he has. When he does he will delight our supporters and surprise the opposition.

Brent Stephens
64 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:26:39
Yes, Jay, agreed that Bernard gets stuck in. He can easily get knocked off the ball at times, given his size, but aye he's no shrinking violet.
Fran Mitchell
65 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:27:00
I would suggest Gordon is the closest tobeing a wide forward, much more so than Bernard.

I also think the 4-4-2 has consistently been a constantly changing system.

From a basic set up of 4-4-2 to 5-3-2 out of possession, to 4-3-3 on the counter attack.

I think if we set up as 4-3-3 (like Silva), we will ultimately end up with a 4-5-1 with DCL isolated.

Ajay Gopal
66 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:35:16
I agree Gomes looked tired, but he's had time to recover. I won't be surprised to see the only change being Davies for Gomes.

My predicted starting XI:

Pickford
Coleman Keane Holgate Digne
Iwobi Siggy Davies Gordon
Richy DCL

Subs: Virginia, Mina, Sidibé, Baines, Gomes, Beni, Bernard, Kean, Ellis

Brent Stephens
67 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:38:48
Ajay, I think that might well be the starting XI but I think Ellis Simms isn't near a first team start yet so I wouldn't be putting him on the bench. Big lad and hopefully in time...
Brian Wilkinson
68 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:52:57
Jim@25, I know what you mean about Harry Kane, Interesting that skybet are offering 50/1 boost, for Kane to score a hatrick.

Not for one minute do I expect it to happen, however every so often we have a bad Day where nothing goes for us, dodgy penalty ( Kane) the taker, free kick, Again akane.

I am more hopeful under Carlo o and hope we hold our own and get a result, if we have a brain fart, then that 50/1 looks tempting.

Brian Wilkinson
69 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:55:08
Jim@25, I know what you mean about Harry Kane, Interesting that skybet are offering 50/1 boost, for Kane to score a hatrick.
Not for one minute do I expect it to happen, however every so often we have a bad Day where nothing goes for us, dodgy penalty ( Kane) the taker, free kick, Again Kane.

I am more hopeful under Carlo and hope we hold our own and get a result, if we have a brain fart, then that 50/1 looks tempting.

How I miss the edit button.

Jay Harris
70 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:56:17
Bernard is a home bird and tends not to play well away.

My biggest concern is Son because of his speed and directness.

We don't have anyone who can cope with that.

Apparently its 14 games since we beat Spurs. Long overdue.

Lets hope to put that right tonight.

Minik Hansen
71 Posted 06/07/2020 at 15:57:16
Gomes gonna be fire! Looking forward to watch Gomes fully motivated to beat this lot. Whatever happens though. COYB.
Jerome Shields
72 Posted 06/07/2020 at 16:19:53
Prior to the break Bernard was the one player that seemily got a lot from Ancelotti coaching. I would say at that stage he was the most improved under Ancelotti.

But he has not been selected to start since Everton came back and when he does come on he appears not to have come through the break well, what ever the reason. Gomes is the same, but Ancelotti is limited in options.

Ancelotti is probably hopeing that they both will become match fit from playing. Sigurdsson has the proverbial going missing problem and Davis was able to beat defender quite easily when he came on, against Leicester. I believe Davis is most effective in the final third, he tends to lose possession if he comes from further back.

Jerome Shields
73 Posted 06/07/2020 at 16:36:58
Forgot about Son, who got away with the late tackle in Gomes, but got caught again within two matches for the dirty player he is.
Rob Halligan
74 Posted 06/07/2020 at 16:49:51
Jerome # 72. Bernard started the game away to Norwich.
Steve Shave
75 Posted 06/07/2020 at 16:50:37
In reference to Bernard, I think he has looked better under Carlo mainly because Carlo got him drifting inside more, this seems to suit him. I agree though, he's only shown glimpses for me, If Fonseca wants him I'd consider it.
Geoff Lambert
76 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:19:03
Laurie #19

"Chance to go 9th here and snapping at the heals of Arsenal, Sheffield Utd, and Burnley."

Well thats fucked it now Laurie shhhhhh.

Tom Bowers
77 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:27:49
Lot's of diverse comments about the team selection for the game today. One thing is for sure is that they need 100% effort to get a result at a place generally unforgiving.
Spurs have been up and down and depended heavily on the Son, Delle, Kane strike force but Since Kane's injury and Delle's inconsistency ( I thought he was overrated anyway) they have not performed and this may also be down to Mourinho who has done little to reverse the situation.

However, every game is different and we never know what to expect with any game since the season restarted but Everton's defence need to be on their toes to keep Spurs scoreless as they do have talent throughout the squad.

Kase Chow
78 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:28:20
Bernard is awful - flatters to deceive. Output for an attacking player (goals and assists) are poor

If he was homegrown the stick he would get...

Jamie Crowley
79 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:37:54
Fran @ 65 -

I think the 4-3-3 is coming, we're just not there yet. It wouldn't shock me in the least if we're playing a 4-3-3 come Christmas and being on the front foot most matches.

Jerome @73 -

I have not forgotten that tackle, and Son is a shithouse. I would never root for anyone to get hurt. But if Son were removed from the game one way or another, I'd not be displeased.

I will say I sincerely hope at least 2-3 hearty, hearty tackles are put in against Son. I will also say if Gomes "pulled a Roy Keane", part of me would be pissed off, but that evil, dark side of me would be pleased.

Gomes won't do that, it's not in his character. Here's hoping someone on our team sends a strong message that when Son is on the ball, he best keep his freaking head up and get rid of the ball quickly.

If this were hockey, Son would have no choice but to drop the gloves from the initial faceoff, and he'd spend zero time on the ice because every single time he went back out there, someone would go after him and force him to fight again. A steady diet of the sin-bin.

I really hope someone sends a hearty, albeit clean, message to that jackwagon at least 2-3 times today.

Kieran Kinsella
80 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:54:01
Kase Chow

What unadulterated poppycock! Since I neither attend matches nor go in the forum, I know for a fact Bernard receives exactly, down to the insulting syllable, the precise amount of stick he would receive if he was a local lad. It's a completely equitable process of abuse.

Jamie Crowley
81 Posted 06/07/2020 at 17:59:30
I have to say, Bernard does get torn a new one on the Live Forum.

I'd say Tom wins the one v. one abuse battle, but it's pretty darned close.

Jay Evans
82 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:01:23
Tough one tonight.

Beware the wounded animal as we all know how difficult it is to play a team after they've just had a a good slapping. However, the opportunity is there for us without an angry home crowd pushing them on.

If we score first you never know. Young Dominic is due a goal as well.


Full support blues 💙
Onward Evertonians.

Kieran Kinsella
83 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:04:15
Jay

I'd normally agree on the wounded animal analogy, but these days when wounded, Mourinho seems to keep picking at the scab until it goes septic. Tottenham are toast.

Danny Broderick
84 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:09:29
If Gordon plays as a wide attacker tonight, he'll have my full support. I just haven't seen much of this from him as I don't watch the U23s, and he has been playing a disciplined role in the first team so far. He contributed well for his assist for Richarlison against Leicester. Let's hope he can get on the front foot if he plays there tonight...
Derek Moore
85 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:09:35
Agree with Jamie (#79), both on the formation and on Son. I haven't watched an ice hockey game since I was last in the US - mince pies can't keep up with the puck! - but one thing that I really liked about the sport was the way it policed itself, largely through actions our American correspondent describes. This method actually keeps the cheap shots to a minimum, because you're going to get them back. With interest.

Jamie gets extra points for the absolutely perfect Scouse use of shithouse as a noun in a footballing context. Marvelous stuff.

If only we were allowed to get some use out of Besic this campaign, he'd be an ideal candidate for a spirited challenge or three on the Korean.

PS - Kieran Kinsella (#80) very cheeky and gave me a sly grin. Poppycock indeed.......Fair dos though, much more restraint shown today than recently.

Frank Fearns
86 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:13:04
Alan post 11 -- "Jimmy Harris scored a hat trick" v Spurs in 1958 - we got stuffed 10 - 4!!! Terrible memories. The only good thing was the other lot lost 5 - 0 to Huddersfield the week before so there was a bit of a truce at school
I lean on the side of those saying Gomes should be rested. He looks very sluggish and is poor at creating space to receive a pass. More than happy to be proved wrong and would be pleased to see him control and dominate the midfield.
Anthony Flack
87 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:23:43
I remember Peter Reid saying that for several years after Marwood did Adrian Heath that they organised before the game who'd boot him

I know times have changed with cameras and retrospective action etc but if we are getting well beaten and there is five minutes to go I hope someone boots Som to kingdom come.

Anthony Flack
88 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:23:43
I remember Peter Reid saying that for several years after Marwood did Adrian Heath that they organised before the game who'd boot him

I know times have changed with cameras and retrospective action etc but if we are getting well beaten and there is five minutes to go I hope someone boots Som to kingdom come.

Andrew Ellams
89 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:24:44
Anthony I remember the boot Peter Reid gave Marwood later on in that game.
Jerome Shields
90 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:28:29
Rob#74

You are right. He did not register with me, which says it all. Maybe after lockdown Ancelotti formation doesn't suit him. I also don't remember him tackling that much. He had one of the highest tackle rates for a forward player this season, before the break. Hopefully he with find his form.

Jamie#73

Someone has to get a hard tackle in on Son early in the game and his Marker needs to continually breath down his neck. As you say he is the type of player that would continue to try to get away with it. In Ice Hockey it would be as you say.

Rob Halligan
91 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:30:29
Anthony, if we are three or four up with five minutes to go, I hope someone takes the little shit out!!
Jamie Crowley
92 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:42:39
Derek @ 85 -

High marks for understanding the concept of self-policing.

Wayne Gretzky scored goals for fun. Why? Because Marty McSorely played wing on Gretzky's line for like ever.

If anyone even breathed on Gretzky, they were in for a beating. And everyone knew it.

Some say Goon, I say Guardian Angel.

Andrew Keatley
93 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:45:02
It's disappointing to read people on here sanctioning Son being targeted (in respect of his tackle that precipitated the Gomes injury). Son made a petulant and tactical flick out against Gomes - who then fell awkwardly and suffered a horrible injury; if he'd made a horrendous studs-up challenge or thrown an elbow then I could slightly understand the ongoing sense of desired retribution being meted out - but he didn't. I hope the players, Gomes included, are focused on the game at hand tonight and not distracted (as posters above) by any Gomes / Son sideshow.
Jamie Crowley
94 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:46:45
Jerome @ 90 -

I couldn't agree more. I will jump up and yell with delight if and when that happens.

As I say, a hearty, hearty challenge.

p.s. - Try saying that last sentence with a pirate accent. Quite fun. Sophomoric, but fun.

Mark Tanton
95 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:48:10
Happened in the old days. Why not? Take him out!
John Kavanagh
96 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:48:15
I'm hoping that Gordon starts and builds on his appearances so far by opening his account against Spurs and giving Mourinho something new to moan about. Given Kane's prolific scoring scoring record against us the back 4 will need to be on top form and the midfield will need to get stuck in and cut off the supply, hopefully by settling accounts with Son early on. We are long overdue a win against them, but then again I was saying that about Leeds for over 20 years.

Paul Tran
97 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:49:57
We've become hard to beat and must carry that on tonight. If that Everton turns up, we'll get at least a point. More players in their box will create havoc in their poor defence, we must test it.

We don't need outside recognition, just keep on winning, creeping up that table unnoticed will do for me.

Jamie Crowley
98 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:50:17
Andrew -

This has been done to death, but that's your version.

I see an entirely different version. A player, with the red of a bull in his eyes, chased down another player and hacked him down from behind. Cause and effect. Without the challenge - from behind mind you - the injury doesn't happen.

On top of that, as I'm a mind-reader of some capability, Son knew exactly what he was doing. It was filthy, dirty, and he intended to injure. It's one of those shithouse (!) cheeky (!) moves that a player does, pretends it's done on "accident", and then claims innocence.

In short, fucker knew what he was doing.

You have your version. I have mine. Mine's right. 😜😂

Kieran Kinsella
99 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:52:49
If we're going to "take out" Son, it's a shame we can't field Schneiderlin for one last match before a lengthy ban. With him gone, maybe Sigurdsson would be the best man for the job.
Kieran Kinsella
101 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:55:55
Mike Gaynes,

I've been keeping an eye on Choudhury at Leicester as this article rings very true. He could, hopefully, be a bit of a ground breaker. He's a tough player and has a bit of talent too. Leicester has a large Asian British community so he's positioned to be a good role model for the next generation of local kids.

Jerome Shields
102 Posted 06/07/2020 at 18:58:21
Jamie #94

The second red card for Son was against Chelsea, straight after Tottenham won the appeal against red card in the Everton match. They again put in a appeal and Mouriho blamed the Chelsea Player for bring the Referees attention to it. It was Var that actually confirmed the red card in that occasion. So it shows you what Everton are up against with this Player, fully supported by his Manager. They lost the second appeal.

Andrew #93

You might find it disappointing , but a player like Son will push his luck and is probably encouraged to do so by the Manager. Tottenham where up against in both the Everton and Chelsea games and Son was encouraged to do his dirty work. It did affect Everton as Gomes was playing well. It backfired in the Chelsea game.

Mourinho will not be saying to Son to take it easy, he will be fully encouraging him.

Mike Gaynes
104 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:02:05
Jamie #79, you gotta get your head out of the 1980s, man. Hockey isn't like that anymore. Hasn't been for decades. You can count the number of remaining "enforcers" in the league on one hand.

Nowadays, the player initiating the fight as you describe gets ejected. Just like Gomes will today if he goes all Roy Keane on Son.

You cheer the red card if you want. I'd rather win the game.

Rob Halligan
106 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:02:40
I also remember Son being sent off down at Bournemouth, when he flicked his studs up at a Bournemouth players chest after being fouled. Great player he might be, but he's snidey with it. If someone so much as breathes on him, he's gone down like he's been shot.
Jamie Crowley
107 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:05:30
Jerome -

I was so, so unhappy with our response to Spurs' contesting the red.

We just laid back, said, "Nah, it's fine."

It really, really ticked me off.

We need points. We're not getting points down to 10 men. We can't do anything rash. I just want to see us send a message and put in a robust tackle or two, and be incredibly physical with Son.

I mean, serious question: does he not have it coming??!!

Christy Ring
108 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:05:34
I hope Carlo starts Davies in midfeld, ahead of Siggy, he played well against Leicester, and he has a more physical presence, and he can tackle, I know sometimes, he can be rash, and pick up a yellow, but Sigurdsson, who is a no.10 for me, good when he has room, but cannot tackle or defend in my opinion. Hope it's a good night for Gomes.
Jamie Crowley
109 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:05:44
Jerome -

I was so, so unhappy with our response to Spurs' contesting the red.

We just laid back, said, "Nah, it's fine."

It really, really ticked me off.

We need points. We're not getting points down to 10 men. We can't do anything rash. I just want to see us send a message and put in a robust tackle or two, and be incredibly physical with Son.

I mean, serious question: does he not have it coming??!!

Mike Gaynes
110 Posted 06/07/2020 at 19:06:18
Kieran #101, yep, I believe he was mentioned in the article. But the lack of representation is still pretty striking. All the top Asian players appearing in the Premier League seem to come from overseas.

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