Tosun had surgery in February and he has returned to running with some 'light' ball work under the direction of Everton's medical team at Finch Farm. They are pleased with the rate of his progress and Tosun is meeting all of his recovery targets as he bids to return from the serious injury.
But the striker still faces a long period on the sidelines before he is ready to play again, with some suggestions that it could be November before the Turkey international is back on the pitch and hopefully providing a return on his £60k/week wages.
Tosun joined the club 2½ years ago as one of two acquisitions under the management of Sam Allardyce. But he got used less and less by Marco Silva, with only two starts before the Portuguese manager was dismissed; however, he fared no better under Duncan Ferguson and then Carlo Ancelotti, who must have both agreed to his loan move in January of this year, before his fateful injury was sustained. His Everton contract has another 2 years to run.
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1 Posted 04/08/2020 at 21:18:42
2 Posted 04/08/2020 at 21:44:26
3 Posted 04/08/2020 at 21:50:18
Invest in youth. Please.
4 Posted 04/08/2020 at 23:04:56
5 Posted 04/08/2020 at 23:09:14
6 Posted 04/08/2020 at 23:25:31
7 Posted 04/08/2020 at 23:55:53
8 Posted 05/08/2020 at 00:12:26
9 Posted 05/08/2020 at 00:18:19
The injury will have destroyed much of the player's value, just our bloody luck and when we really need the money and to offload too.
10 Posted 05/08/2020 at 00:36:53
I think his future lies back home in Turkey... another one who didn't sign himself, or set his own wages.
11 Posted 05/08/2020 at 03:28:01
12 Posted 05/08/2020 at 04:33:43
13 Posted 05/08/2020 at 06:46:33
14 Posted 05/08/2020 at 07:32:54
'Tosun ain't going to shine anymore' – Walker Bros.
'Don't let Tosun go down on me' George Michael & Elton John.
Ah well it's the best I could think of at the time, I'll get my coat on the way out! :-)
15 Posted 05/08/2020 at 07:37:54
No-one will buy or loan Tosun this summer surely so he may get a few games with us this before Christmas to show what he can do with a strike partner.
16 Posted 05/08/2020 at 07:41:45
A decision will need to be made as to whether Tosun is included in the squad for the coming season. We simply cannot afford to use up limited places with the likes of Walcott and Delph as well, not to speak of Gbamin. With a truncated season looming we must not have so much of the squad missing from the get go.
Besides, we need to make room the the latest batch of thrilling signings like Ben Schwarmer or Ivanovic.
17 Posted 05/08/2020 at 07:53:59
You couldn't make it up.
18 Posted 05/08/2020 at 08:22:13
If we can sell him back to Turkey (which is probably best for all concerned) then we will be lucky to get £8M for him.
Another bad bit of business by EFC. Jeez, a penny for Moshiri's thoughts, eh?
19 Posted 05/08/2020 at 08:47:58
20 Posted 05/08/2020 at 09:05:29
21 Posted 05/08/2020 at 09:10:14
Are you sure it's not the £60k a week he loves?
22 Posted 05/08/2020 at 09:39:27
He stated that, when they were signing players, both himself and Yards of Arse had to agree on the player or there would be no signing. I wonder what they were drinking when they saw him? Whatever it was, they must have had plenty of it.
23 Posted 05/08/2020 at 09:46:40
Maybe playing up front alone hasn't helped him, and he has got a good return when playing for his country, but “everywhere the ball has just been” is how I'd unfortunately describe Cenk Tosun.
Not quite strong enough to be a target man, and not quite quick enough to play down the sides means he definitely needs a partner, and I remember a Turkish fella saying he always struggles to begin with whenever he steps up another level, but he's possibly the only “trier” who has genuinely exasperated me because his movement is so poor.
I hope he gets fit and proves me wrong though, because, despite all the negativity, he does know how to finish!
25 Posted 05/08/2020 at 10:13:39
James Beattie came with a good scoring record that went tits up in this system. Tosun isn't as good a player as Beattie was, but I agree he's not suited to the isolated role, most aren't. He's also slow.
Like someone stated on this site last week, we have had plenty of good defenders over the years, but decades of lack of goals + boring football = little quality upfront. All top 6 teams last season had goals in them; this is a mountain for Carlo to climb.
26 Posted 05/08/2020 at 10:16:36
They will all see out their contracts as no other club is stupid enough to pay these duds anything like the money we pay them. They will all at some point say how much they love the club and how amazing the supporters are – what they really mean is I am here till the end of the contract because I won the lottery when I signed for this club. Bolasie haven't heard from him in ages but since being sent back from his loan from Sporting has gone on a charm offensive with the fans posting on his twitter account most days.
I look across at the dark side and I don't see established players on long-term loan deals with other clubs, because their transfer policy is in a different league to ours. Not in terms of money spent, just in the type of player they buy; apart from Allison and Van Dijk, we could have bought all their squad.
What's really amazing is Koeman was in charge at Southampton who had both Mane and Van Dijk yet he didn't try to sign either. And before anyone says well Southampton wouldn't let him take their players, they said the same thing about they wouldn't sell another player to the dark side but they did. Money talks and we had plenty before Koeman and Walsh wasted nearly all of it.
27 Posted 05/08/2020 at 10:36:55
I dislike Allardyce immensely but something he did say was very true: he said make sure if you spend a lot on a player make sure they are the right ones, as the fans will never forgive you if you get the big purchase wrong. Just a pity he didn't heed his own advice – Tosun and Walcott really.
A bit like Eddie Howe what possessed him to pay £19 million for Solanke, he couldn't even get a game for the other lot. Again just highlights how the other lot always get top dollar for their cast-offs unlike us.
I mean Coutinho was a good player for them but £145 million for a midfield player, makes the money we got from Man Utd for Lukaku look very cheap considering he was one of the top goalscorers in the Premier League at the time.
28 Posted 05/08/2020 at 11:40:20
29 Posted 05/08/2020 at 11:53:49
We never seem to hit the jackpot signing strikers straight from European league's, have we ever got one right!?
30 Posted 05/08/2020 at 12:07:49
I think even big Sam said something along the lines of 'He is the best we could have got in January' which didn't exactly whet the appetite.
Let's hope he finds a club in January.
31 Posted 05/08/2020 at 12:35:38
32 Posted 05/08/2020 at 12:45:15
We then won't need any January reinforcements as we battle for a top 4 finish. With a fresh pair of legs and an appetite to score many an important goal.
33 Posted 05/08/2020 at 13:09:12
The strikers (Richarlison and Lukaku excepted) that Everton have signed in recent years have been average at best when starting. Walcott, Mirallas, Bolasie, Niasse, Calvert-Lewin, Sandro and a bunch of others who rarely played a game.
We need more class up front because when Richy is injured or heavily marked there is nobody who can step up to the plate.
Yes, Calvert-Lewin tries hard and has improved a tad this season but he is still sadly not up to snuff.
34 Posted 05/08/2020 at 13:18:10
What I think they should have given greater consideration to was that the Besiktas side was set up to make the most of his finishing. They had this wonderful no 8 playing at the time called Ozyakup who had a symbiotic relationship with Cenk (I remember reading an interview with him about this) and also the extremely gifted Talisca on loan playing just behind him, he had a lot of fed balls.
35 Posted 05/08/2020 at 13:28:42
37 Posted 05/08/2020 at 13:45:21
Tosun had a good but not brilliant goalscoring record in a weak league. That was always going to translate poorly to the UK – especially given his age we were buying the finished article. Add to the fact that he had none of the physical attributes (pace, height, power) to make a nuisance of himself as a lone striker and it just adds up to a stupid waste of money.
Sam and Walsh basically said, "Well, we've got a budget of circa £25M. Who can we get that costs circa £25M?" Instead of using a bit of intelligence and thinking who might suit our system, our club and our future.
38 Posted 05/08/2020 at 13:46:27
The time to get Van Dijk was when he was at Celtic, for £10M. Martinez & Kenwright decided to buy Funes Mori instead, which, for me, sums up our procurement policy in a nutshell.
39 Posted 05/08/2020 at 14:02:54
40 Posted 05/08/2020 at 14:03:47
41 Posted 05/08/2020 at 14:27:27
For £60k a week, I could even learn to love the shite.... at least I could learn to say I did.
42 Posted 05/08/2020 at 14:48:48
I think he'd be a good partner for Calvert-Lewin as Watkins is good coming deep and then you could play Richarlison on the right which guarantees goals and hard work from midfield.
Kenny Holgate Gabriel Digne
Richarlison Allan Gbamin Iwobi
Not that I think we'll bag Gabriel. Or Allan.
43 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:23:15
I'll try not to get on my soapbox about Steve Walsh (mainly because I then struggle to get off it again) but Moshiri must rue the day the hired that complete cockwomble.
44 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:48:22
I'd rather leave Richarlison where he is and get a dynamic midfielder.
45 Posted 05/08/2020 at 15:57:35
His £60k pw wages are nothing special by EPL standards but too much for any team from Europe that may have interest in him. Best we can hope for is a successful loan in January, hope he proves his fitness then bring in a loan fee next summer and say 50% of his wages paid until his contract is up.
I had major misgivings when we came in for him. 26 and never played in a major league. A good season at Besiktas after taking a good while to break intro their first team. What could go wrong?
Seems like we signed him off him scoring a couple goals in the Champions League, one against a French team, iirc. Brilliant stuff!
46 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:11:56
He is totally unsuited for the speed of the Premier League and whoever recommended him should never have been on the recruitment team.
47 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:32:26
48 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:41:53
This is the way accountants work and think mate, for example, at my local Supermarket they spent £6M on basically a greenhouse shop entrance and yet refuse to employ sufficient staff to get stuff onto the shelves! £60,000 out of that £6M could have been used to employ 4 members of staff full-time for a whole year!
The tax system is what it is and dictates that the world has gone mad. Only those at the very top have a voice and society is unravelling as a result.
49 Posted 05/08/2020 at 16:43:57
50 Posted 05/08/2020 at 17:00:22
Well, we may have many faults as a club, mainly on the playing side, but thank God we don't behave like Arsenal. They have released a statement saying "Our aim has been to protect the jobs and base salaries of our people for as long as we possibly can, unfortunately we have now come to the point where we are proposing to make 55 people redundant."
So, if each of the 55 are on £35,000 per year that will save Arsenal £2 million from their wage bill, which last season was £232 million. They earned £3 million for winning the FA Cup, let alone what they will make for qualifying for the Europa League.
What a sickening bunch of people now in charge of our football clubs, we have had some of the wealthiest applying to use the furlough scheme, and now this. Seems like there are no depths these owners think is a step too far. I will be very interested to see Arsenal fans reaction, or don't fans care about their clubs acting morally any more.
51 Posted 05/08/2020 at 17:12:12
Watkins is much better at coming short and also running in behind. He's not necessarily a creative forward but far more so than Calvert-Lewin. I think they could make a decent pair.
Also, I just think £18M is decent value for the best striker in the Championship who looks an excellent prospect and is fairly versatile. I prefer Edouard but he may well cost £10M more.
52 Posted 05/08/2020 at 17:47:50
Sandra, Tosun, Bilyzxqxdinov (couldn't be bothered to check the spelling but you know who I mean) Besic, Klaassen and probably others. Great where they were but totally not suited to the very different Premier League in England.
Somehow whether they will be able adapt or that their natural game is already Premier League ready is never in the minds of the management.
53 Posted 05/08/2020 at 17:52:59
54 Posted 05/08/2020 at 17:54:47
Interesting talking about Calvert-Lewin. I was really disappointed with his form these last nine games. He looked very flat to me and to an extent going through the motions. I really hope he flushes that out of his system. I suppose the team was so disjointed, he wasn't the only one underperforming.
Moise Kean (if he stays and is not sold, traded or loaned) will be seriously challenging to start matches next season so Calvert-Lewin had better watch out. Moise won't win the headers so much but he has a bit extra in his locker when it comes to being a natural and direct striker.
We will have to adjust our game plan to start with Moise but, judging on the last nine games, that could be no bad thing.
Arsenal, shame on them, heartless opportunistic scumbags.
55 Posted 05/08/2020 at 18:14:49
56 Posted 05/08/2020 at 18:33:38
Out of sight, out of mind.
57 Posted 05/08/2020 at 19:39:34
58 Posted 05/08/2020 at 19:44:53
59 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:03:42
On the Ollie Watkins theme... He's a bit like Che Adams at Saints. Late-ish developer – turned himself into a good player. Could do okay but we need better than 'okay'. We shouldn't really sign anyone who isn't Champions League quality (at least in potential).
Edouard is in that category – really good – but we've got Kean so academic.
We could all really do with an incoming transfer. It would cheer me up anyway.
60 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:38:18
61 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:45:29
Surely we can gamble on players at lower fees & wages and save a bit of money for more expensive safer bets?
Our buying strategy appears to be like the drunken stag parties who stagger round the betting ring having £100 on horses they like the names of.
62 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:50:43
63 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:54:03
64 Posted 05/08/2020 at 20:56:05
65 Posted 05/08/2020 at 21:42:01
66 Posted 06/08/2020 at 01:29:28
I remember his debut vs Arsenal (a 5-1 hammering if my memory is correct) and thinking he looked like a Sunday league player!
Then he went missing for 2 months with Fat Sam claiming he wasn't used to the cold weather in January and February. The lad was born a grew up in southern Germany which makes our winters positively spring like!
Yet another dreadful signing that'll we will struggle to offload.
Sam #42, I note you have Iwobi starting in your fantasy side. He's another one I'd add to the file marked “truly awful signings”. Thankfully (or rather unfortunately) it's a big box!! He shouldn't be anywhere near the starting XI. Ever.
67 Posted 06/08/2020 at 07:40:45
There were many shrewd judges on here who rejoiced at the signing of Tosun. I remember a few of the YouTube set offering bets and pledges about how many he would score. I said that, by signing him, we had now signed both the Turkish and the Spanish Andy Johnsons.
For my part at least, I did come back and admit I was wrong. I offered my profound apologies to Andy Johnson.
68 Posted 06/08/2020 at 07:52:18
I was excited till I saw him play.
69 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:02:33
70 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:03:19
71 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:10:18
72 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:14:59
Like so many of our signings we will never see a decent return for the investment.
73 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:40:16
Nope. Not as quick or mobile as I'd thought. Offers zero goal threat. Easily dispossessed. Little creativity. No defensive contribution (hardly unexpected coming from Arsenal tbh). Cannot play out wide, only as a central attacking midfielder. Bang average player.
I do not see him suddenly improving, unfortunately, and think we should be looking at moving him on ASAP whilst he's still relatively young. We'll take a hit on the fee but that can't be avoided. I hope he isn't on stupid wages because that'll complicate things somewhat. 😕
74 Posted 06/08/2020 at 08:59:53
If we sold him now, I'm not sure – post-coronavirus and him having a terrible season – we'd get much back. It would represent a big loss on the spreadsheet in terms of FFP. So I'd be very surprised if that happens.
Hopefully he can do better next season.
75 Posted 06/08/2020 at 11:29:08
The advantage of buying poor players on a 5-year contract is that the loss (if any) is slightly mitigated. In FFP terms, I'd rather his wages were spent on a player who is useful.
Since he's been here, he's given me no indication as to why he was bought, or what he's meant to do. The stats can say what they like, my eyes tell me he's a poor player that goes missing – a common theme with Brands's signings.
It would be good if Brands started buying players who make an impact quickly, rather than this 'might be good next year' nonsense.
76 Posted 06/08/2020 at 16:47:55
We've had our debates about the uses of stats and I know you won't be convinced but Brands and Steinsson do use stats and that will be partly why we bought him. I'm not sure I can think of any player that hasn't gone missing this season. It's been wretched.
I hope Iwobi will do better next season but I'm not sure he's suited to a 4-4-2. I also think he's not looked fully fit often (a bit like Gomes). Either way, unless he can be included in a swap deal, I'm 90% sure he'll be playing for us next season, likely contesting the left-midfield spot with Gordon and Bernard.
77 Posted 06/08/2020 at 17:11:08
The wages is the real issue here. Iwobi, Bernard, Kean, Gomes, Delph, Pickford are all on high wages, would get us decent fees and wouldn't be missed by me. Sell three of them, replace with effective players on similar wages and I'd say we'd be heading in the right direction.
Easy? Not necessarily. But isn't that why Brands & Ancelotti are on big money?
78 Posted 06/08/2020 at 17:54:21
I'd happily lose Gomes, Pickford, Delph, Sigurdsson and Bernard who are all on around £100k plus whilst not leading the team in any helpful way.
79 Posted 06/08/2020 at 18:15:44
80 Posted 06/08/2020 at 19:14:06
Mina, being on high wages and high amortization, would be a good one to sell on as would Delph albeit at much lower saving.
81 Posted 06/08/2020 at 21:11:43
82 Posted 06/08/2020 at 21:43:18
We are the worst run club in this league with regard to recruitment and unfortunately our neighbours are the best.
83 Posted 06/08/2020 at 21:51:30
84 Posted 06/08/2020 at 22:12:46
Like yourself, I would be happy to see the back of Pickford, Delph, Bernard, Gomes and Sigurdsson to a greater or lesser degree.
I have sympathy for André obviously because of the horrible injury he sustained but I do not really think he is right for the Premier League and certainly not right for Everton with the squad as it is around him, to my mind he would work in a 4-1-4-1 formation or as the central attacking midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 but little else, we too rarely utilise these formations currently under Carlo. Defensively, Gomes is a liability!
Like yourself, I have hope for Iwobi but do not think he is well suited to a 4-4-2 formation and like Bernard, Gomes and Sigurdsson, I feel he would be best in a 4-2-3-1 formation in the central attacking midfield role, particularly with Kean playing down the centre of the field. I just hope the squad imbalance can be addressed in the coming weeks and at least some of the very high earners (you mentioned) moved on.
85 Posted 07/08/2020 at 13:31:28
It wasn't his ability that justified his contract. He did work hard when he played, but could not beat his marker with guile or speed. His shooting is and was hopeless.
Maybe Tosun could not believe his luck to be on such a contract. When he goes back to Turkey, he will be a wealthy man.
86 Posted 08/08/2020 at 18:13:32
87 Posted 13/08/2020 at 13:39:56
But Kean is the real future... fast, energetic, wants to test the opposing keeper. Just raw. What can Carlo and co do to improve that? I predict he has the capacity to overtake Calvert-Lewin next season.
88 Posted 13/08/2020 at 14:05:54
Everton are the problem: let's see if Ancelotti, with all his experience, falls into the same trap and buys a player too old for the Premier League. Surely not and Brands still thinks he is buying players for the Dutch league with sophisticated players, not two out-and-out midfield destroyers. A typical Everton move is to buy one rather than two that are required and then wonder why we still struggle.
89 Posted 13/08/2020 at 15:36:00
It's no secret that I don't really see the point of buying anyone over 24 (perhaps with the odd exception) – and our focus should be on potentially world class teenagers.
Alisson, Robertson, Van Dijk, Wijnaldum, Mane, Salah and Firmino have all been very gettable in the past. You just have get them younger and accept a few failures along the way (who can still often be flogged for a good price).
90 Posted 13/08/2020 at 15:59:40
He was unmarked and in space. It was a natural goalscorer's goal. He was in the right place at the right time with nobody around him.
91 Posted 13/08/2020 at 16:00:45
Just when we begin to think maybe Palace will take him off our hands after his loan spell, he has a bad cruciate injury, and won't be back till November, so no chance of Palace buying him in the next window. Plus, like so many of our mediocre players, I am sure his £60,000 per week will be a turn-off for any possible suitors in the future.
Seems our DNA is buy expensive mediocre players, put them on 5-year contracts for eye-watering amounts of money, then within 12 months when everyone realises we have bought another dud, we try and loan him out while paying most of his salary.
I wish we could learn something from our neighbours, they buy in most cases cheaply and sell very, very expensively. Courtinho sold to Barcelona for £150 million and they bought Van Dijk and Alisson with the money. Sold Solanke to Bournemouth for £19 million when I don't think he had started more than a few games for them. You can bet, if they sell any of their 26-man squad players, they will get at least double what they paid for their players.
92 Posted 13/08/2020 at 16:09:26
93 Posted 13/08/2020 at 16:49:15
I think he will be starting many more games next season. Calvert-Lewin needs some competition and next season he will be getting it, so he will have to improve. I think duties will be shared to an extent, horses for courses.
Moise Kean looks like he has a natural confidence about him, essential for a striker, with a few more goals and positive headlines he could really come good in a big way.
I haven't seen any rumours of loans or anything back to Italy, so I assume that Carlo has told him he is in line to be starting matches throughout this season.
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