Everton vs Salford City

Tuesday, 15 September, 2020 122comments  |  Jump to last
Carabao Cup Preview

Carlo Ancelotti has a number of options available to him as he plots a course through to round three

Everton continue their busy start to the new season with the first step of what they hope will be a long journey in the Carabao Cup as they host Salford City.

Buoyed by victory in Sunday's Premier League opener against Tottenham, the Blues will be looking to progress to the third round for the third season running (they received a bye in 2017 due to their participation in the Europa League) where Fleetwood Town would be their opponents following their victory over Port Vale.

Despite representing the obvious carrot of silverware and triumph in a competition they have never won in its 60-year history, winning the League Cup offers Everton a pathway to Europe in 2021-22, albeit not to the Europa League but to the playoff round of the new Europa Conference League.

Wednesday's opponents are recent newcomers to the English Football League, having been promoted from the National League last year, the next step in the club's progress under the leadership of Manchester United's “Class of '92” — Nicky Butt, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville and Paul Scholes — who purchased them in 2014.

They finished in 11th place in League Two last season and sit in ninth having drawn their first match of this season ahead of their first ever meeting with Everton, a tie that will see ex-Blues midfielder Darron Gibson return to Goodison Park more than three years after he left for Sunderland.

Carlo Ancelotti, who takes charge of his first English League Cup tie in almost a decade since his Chelsea were beaten 4-3 at home by Newcastle United at the third round stage in 2010, faces the perennial dilemma for Premier League managers with designs on the top end of the Premier League table: how many changes to make to a winning team against lower-league opposition.

The question is a pertinent one given that the Blues travelled to London for a late-afternoon kick-off on Sunday, face West Bromwich Albion in the lunchtime game on Saturday and would be in action again a week from now in the cup again should they beat Salford.

Given that, with the exception of Djibril Sidibé, who is no longer with the club, and Mason Holgate, who is ruled out through injury, the Italian could field the same victorious side that Marco Silva did at the third-round stage last year at Sheffield Wednesday without having to use any of his new signings, making significant changes from Sunday needn't be all that risky.

There are inherent dangers in making wholesale changes, as Everton managers have discovered to their cost over the years, but with the congested fixture list, the need to give playing time to fringe players or put others in the shop window, it is expected that Ancelotti will go with a very different side.

Jordan Pickford might keep his place in goal and the lack of options in defence mean that one or both of Michael Keane and Yerry Mina could continue at centre-half — maybe one of then partners Jarrad Branthwaite — but it would not be a surprise to see Jonjoe Kenny and Niels Nkounkou in the full-back roles.

In midfield, all of Gylfi Sigurdsson, Bernard, Tom Davies, Anthony Gordon, Yannick Bolasie, Theo Walcott and Alex Iwobi are in with a shout of starting, with Muhamed Besic and Fabian Delph (fitness allowing) also in contention.

Up front, there might be one more chance for Sandro Ramirez to impress but Moise Kean will fancy himself to start, perhaps partnering Dominic Calvert-Lewin who will be keen for an opportunity to get a scoring run going.

As ever, whichever line-up the manager chooses should be more than capable of beating a team from League Two and there will be insurance on the bench in the form of the first-choice starters should the manager need help in the second half.

Kick-off: 8:15pm, Wednesday, 16 September, 2020


Reader Comments (122)

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer

Paul Birmingham
1 Posted 15/09/2020 at 22:47:20
Lessons learnt from our previous in the forms of this tournament; I hope Carlo puts out a proper team that can win this match. Build the positive momentum for this week and for the season.

It will be interesting to see which players start. Hopefully, pride, drive and hunger will now increase in the squad, now we have a trio of solid and reliable midfielders. Hopefully it will improve the desire in the squad.

Brian Wilkinson
2 Posted 15/09/2020 at 22:55:30
I would stick with the same starting 11, then if all going well, make changes around the 65 minute mark.
Rob Baker
3 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:08:14
Sandro? Who? He should be nowhere near the matchday squad, let alone considered starting material. Include Besic and Bolasie in that category too. Calvert-Lewin will be rested so Moise will start and get a good 90 mins to impress.
John Keating
4 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:12:44
None of the new signings should be included in the squad, certainly James and Allan were huffing and puffing before the end of the Spurs game and should be rested for West Brom. Mina has been a bit injury prone and again should not be included. I'd go with:

Kenny, Keane, Gibson or Branthwaite, Nkounkou
Davies, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Gordon
Kean, Walcott

Give Bolasie a half to put himself in the shop window. Hopefully, with the arrival of the new signings and the good performance against Spurs, all these players will be up for the challenge and produce good performances.

Will Mabon
5 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:14:04
Well, I would imagine if we do start with the same team, and they play to the same level, it could be all over by 30 minutes. Then early changes could be made. An unwelcome injury would be a blow.

Hard one to call. The more options we now have, the more permutations. I don't think we necessarily need the same team for the continuity of form, this being very different to the Prem. but the match fitness angle is a help so early in the season.

It should be almost a given whichever team we field - but we've heard that song before.

Tom Bowers
6 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:21:21
We know what the priorities are and the Mickey Mouse Cup isn't one of them. However, winning every game is, so let them do the business here.

Obviously some players from Sunday will be on the bench giving an opportunity to some others who aspire to be regular first teamers especially the youngsters, Gordon, Branthwaite etc.

Kevin Molloy
7 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:28:54
Amazing that Brands still has a job really. Spends a hundred million 12 months ago, and we now literally cannot give any of them away.

And to think he was brought in to sort out the crazy spending (just thank god we got Carlo).

Derek Knox
8 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:29:42
I almost feel embarrassed to say this but I have never felt such love for a Manager of Everton, than Carlo Fantastico, and I must hasten to add is a few years younger than I.

I admire his cool approach, his recognition, of what are mostly, useless players through no fault of his own inherited.

I also admire Farhad Moshiri, because he has never walked away from whoever was the Manager, although mostly the incorrect choice, and provided the necessary funds, on the advice of those you would think would know better!

Let's take this Cup seriously for once and get our hands on it, something we have NEVER done before, come close, but no cigar!

Will Mabon
9 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:33:38
Derek - easy, Tiger. You're too old for a man crush.
Danny O’Neill
10 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:37:29
I get priorities, Tom, but I would never call any trophy Mickey Mouse.

Winning silverware makes a statement. I haven't seen Man City, Liverpool or Manchester United turn their nose up at this.

And as the article and Derek elude to, it's frustrating that this is a competition that has eluded us. Let's take it serious, end that void in our history and get some silverware back in the cabinet.

If Pep was pleased holding it up last season, I will be this one!

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:39:03
Will, it's those eyebrows. Derek can't resist 'em.
Paul Jones
12 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:41:45
I would field a strong team to have the game won early then rest players. Too many bad memories of fielding weak teams in the competition in the Moyes era then bringing the players on who were meant to be resting to chase the game.
Derek Knox
13 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:41:50
Will @9, Aw come on, give an old man a moment of elation, satisfaction, appreciation, expectation and premonition.

Not quite the Five Boys on the old chocolate bars, whoever can remember them, but not too far away! :-)

Danny O’Neill
14 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:46:19
Exactly Paul, get the game won then rest rather than gamble only to have to bring players on to try and rescue a game against a likely stubborn defence of a once in a lifetime lead and victory for the opposition that ends up taking more effort out of the players.
Will Mabon
15 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:49:09
Eyebrows, old chocolate bars - you guys will give me nightmares.
Colin Glassar
16 Posted 15/09/2020 at 23:59:57
Please Carlo whatever you do, don't start the three new boys. Let them catch their breath in time for the game against West Brom.

Put the deadwood on display in the hope someone might be daft enough to buy them. My team would be:

Oh go on then, bloody Iwobi as well just to make up the numbers.

It's the Mickey Mouse Cup against sodding Salford so, if we don't win, this lot need shooting.

Rob Halligan
17 Posted 15/09/2020 at 00:05:55
Win this bloody cup, get into Europe, do well in Europe, then qualify for Europe on a regular basis, and it all helps to attract a better quality of player.

In four of five years time when the likes of Rodriguez and Allan have either moved on or retired, hopefully they will have been replaced by younger but equally as good players. You have to start somewhere and winning this cup is as good as any, and boy, do we need to win a cup!

Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:18:23
Colin, agree except no Besic. Not ever Besic.
Christine Foster
19 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:29:45
Derek, I remember the five boys by Frys, my favourite was the one with the different flavours in the bar..
Chris Mason
20 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:35:33
We need to give our star players a chance to settle in and train fully ahead of the next league game.

Play the expendibles. They need game time and frankly we won’t get many chances to give them that / show other clubs just how fantastic they are :)

Stephen Vincent
21 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:56:39
Nkounkou and Bolasie have looked lively and interested in the admittedly limited pre-season I would give them both a start. Moise Kean is surely a must as is Jonjoe Kenny if only to rest Seamus's aging legs.

But lots of firepower on the bench just in case it goes tits up.

Bill Watson
22 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:57:57
Hands off, Derek. I haven't felt such love since we signed Bob Latchford!
Bill Gienapp
23 Posted 16/09/2020 at 01:09:59
Jesus, forget Sandro. Moise Kean should be nailed on to start and play the full 90 minutes.

On a side note, I quite like the Salford City logo. It looks like a lion Sith Lord (i.e. the villainous counterparts of the Jedi, for any non-Star Wars buffs).

Jamie Crowley
24 Posted 16/09/2020 at 01:37:00
USA Blues -

This is being streamed on ESPN+.

Tom Bowers
25 Posted 16/09/2020 at 01:45:12
We know what the priorities are and the Mickey Mouse Cup isn't one of them. However, winning every game is, so let them do the business here.

Obviously some players from Sunday will be on the bench giving an opportunity to some others who aspire to be regular first-teamers especially the youngsters, Gordon, Branthwaite etc.

Tom Bowers
26 Posted 16/09/2020 at 01:49:33
This will always be the Mickey Mouse Cup as long as teams keep putting out the benchwarmers for most of the rounds.

The top clubs in particular don't take it too seriously mainly because it clogs up their fixture list when they have Euro games to play which are more important.

Michael Low
27 Posted 16/09/2020 at 02:06:18
In Canada, this is live on DAZN.
Get the job done Blues!
Scott Davies
28 Posted 16/09/2020 at 03:32:50
For any Blues down under like myself, the game is live on beIN Sports 2. Albeit at 5 am – better set my alarm. COYB.
Kristian Boyce
29 Posted 16/09/2020 at 04:28:50
I've never understood how we have never won this cup over the last 60 years. I also think I've posted the exact same thing on here for 14+ years just before we kick off in the competition. It's utterly ridiculous that a club with our honours list has never added this one to it.

I think a lot of my gripes goes back to the Moyes area, and him pretty much insisting on playing a weakened team, and showing little interest in this cup. The sad thing was it was probably the best hope for any silverware during that time.

Looking back to when Man City started with the oil money, they took this competition seriously. Success breeds success and I'd love to see our name on it this season.

Jay Harris
30 Posted 16/09/2020 at 04:34:04
Good shout Jamie C. I watched Villa scape through against Burton today so there's no such thing as a free ride.

Having said that the only players I would retain from Sunday is Pickford, Kean, Doucouré and Calvert-Lewin with Richarlison on the bench just in case.

That gives an opportunity to Kenny, Branthwaite, Nkounkou, Davies, Sigurdsson and Kean to show us if they are interested in a place in the new Everton squad or not.

If they can't beat Salford at Goodison Park, they shouldnt be playing football.

ps: I would also give Big Dunc the manager's hat for this one.

Mike Gaynes
31 Posted 16/09/2020 at 05:29:17
No signings so far this week. Brands out.
Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 16/09/2020 at 06:30:26
Danny @10 says everything. It's a cup, and we haven't won one for 25 years, so winning any cup should be our main priority.

Bill Griffiths
33 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:05:46
I think Carlo is in a bit of a no-win situation regarding the 3 new boys. If he leaves them all out and things go pear-shaped, he'll be crucified on here, if he plays them and they suffer injury putting them out for a few games he'll be crucified also by others.

Personally, I would rest James, play Doucour all game and maybe give Allan the first 45 minutes. Some posters suggest playing Branthwaite while I would play Gibson alongside Keane.

John Reynolds
34 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:16:12
Pretty much any XI Ancelotti puts out should be good enough to ease past Salford, but a reasonably strong selection from last year’s squad would be best (if that’s not an oxymoron). Starting a jewel like James against a 4th Division side would be a reckless endangerment. All it takes is a hairy-arsed psycho fullback wanting to make a name for himself and our hero is on the treatment table for weeks. Let Theo take him on... Keep some firepower on the bench if it’s needed.
Derek Knox
35 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:20:01
Good points there Bill, especially regarding Gibson, I really like the lad, and he needs to be given a chance to show what he can do.

I like that Branthwaite too, but through more or less emergency, he has been given a few chances. He looks to be a decent one for the future but has some rough edges that need polishing.

He may actually play Doucoure and Allan, as they have the experience, but are still relatively new to playing alongside each other. A few fringe players too will be expected to either showcase for Transfer purposes or prove their worth in The Last Chance Saloon.

Sam Hoare
36 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:20:58
No need to risk the new fab 3. If the B squad can’t see off Salford at home then they should be ashamed.

Kenny Keane Gibson Nkounkou
Sigurdsson Delph Davies
Walcott Kean Gordon

That still leaves the likes of Iwobi, Bernard, Bolasie, Besic, Sandro etc on the bench. Shows how bloated our squad is!

Darren Hind
37 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:24:54
There is a very good reason we have not won a trophy since big Joe the Evertonian was in charge. Fear

No club has feared the banana skin quite like we have.

I've lost count of the number of times managers have shied away from prospect of humiliation by playing a second string...Only to be humiliated anyway.

These cups have represented our only hope of silverware for years. What are we saving our players for ? To be out of both of them in January again ?

Get your best team on the pitch. Get more game time with them playing as a unit. Get the game won and Get the fuck out of there.

Rest ? most of them have just had more time off than a furloughed Barber

Colin Glassar
38 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:25:59
According to today’s Daily Mirror today’s game will be used to hawk some of our really crap players like Iwobi, Besic, Pennington, Sandro etc... Lets hope they can put in a decent performance and we can soon see the back of them!
Ian Bennett
39 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:35:41
The deadwood don't deserve a chance to play.

They should be told to train on their own, and to find another club ASAP. If they want to play, take a wage cut and move on.

If they want their wages, tell them they won't play football again at this club. We've got to move them out, they're sucking us dry.

Jay Evans
40 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:38:36
I’ve lost count of the amount of times our previous managers have rotated at this stage and we’ve been knocked out.

TW is always then full of posters who quite rightly point out that you should always start your best eleven, changing things only when we are comfortable.

Let’s not get burnt again please Don.

Full strength and full support as always.

Onward Evertonians 💙

Kevin Prytherch
41 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:42:01
Colin - if that is the case

Kenny, Pennington, Besic, Nkounkou
Bolasie, Delph, Baningime, Iwobi
Sandro, Kean

That’s a team that would strike fear into the hearts of many a Sunday League Veterans team...

Andrew Ellams
42 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:56:34
As the next two rounds of this competition are next Wednesday and the Wednesday after I think we'll see a mixture of players rotated over the matches to get minutes into as many players legs as possible before the next international break in October.
Martin Berry
43 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:20:01
Carlo will be keen to win this game and the competition but its also ideal to use his squad, so I suspect he will start with fringe players and see how the game goes.
Christy Ring
44 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:22:43
Rest the new players, give the players, we're looking to sell a game. I wouldn't play Keane or Mina, considering they're the only fit centrebacks we have. I know it's still a cup, but our expensive reserves should be able to beat Salford.
Eddie Dunn
45 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:32:57
There has been enough evidence in that first game that we could sustain a serious challenge for the top 6. Considering the importance of protecting our new boys and a game on Saturday v the Baggies, I wouldn't even put them on the bench.
Let the fringe players stake their claims and I would also rest Mina as, with Holgate crocked for 2 or 3 months, we really need to wrap him in cottonwool.
Bob Parrington
46 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:44:41
It's somewhat of a conundrum for Carlo. New season,
relatively new as the coach, new exciting mid-field combo, suggested need to keep momentum, need to rest new players, players needing to be on show for possible transfer, players needing to be on-side to be part of the squad and a number of other issues.

For me as a rank amateur, I would start with Lossl, then Seamus, Keane, Branthwaite, Digne as the back 4. I'd include Doucoure in the mid-field along with Gordon plus Bernard as the nr 10, Kean, DCL and Richarlison.

Preservation plus enough clout would be the background for this based on the thought not to underestimate the underdog!

Colin Glassar
47 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:58:35
Spot on Kevin 41. World beaters all of them!
Martin Reppion
48 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:02:48
This is an opportunity for the players who didn't start on Sunday to step up and say 'look I'm still here and want to be part of this', or 'I'm a footballer, get me out of here'.

The pre-match team talk should be along the lines of, 'get out there and chase everything for 45 minutes. Prove you are worth your contracts because if you haven't wrapped this up by half time your careers, not just here, are over'.

I think Keane will be the one starter from Sunday to play (probably as captain). If any others are needed then we are going to be stuck with a bloated squad of over paid nobodies for a long time.
A good performance from those players listed in various orders above could create interest and allow us the funds to have fun in the last knockings of the transfer window.

Rennie Smith
49 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:03:08
Surely it will be mostly the stiffs on show tonight? Maybe some of them will be in the shop window as well. He'll probably need Keane to play and maybe go 4-4-2 with Kean partnering DCL to give him a chance. It would be typical that Iwobi plays a blinder just because he thinks a few clubs will be watching.
Hugh Jenkins
50 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:05:20
Christine (19) - I think you are confusing "Five Boys" with one of Fry's other products, called "Fry's Five Centre".

I remember it well ( but couldn't recall it's name) so googled it. Link and history below.


On the matter of the Salford badge, when I first saw it in the header I thought we were playing Millwall again (shudders).

Philip McKeown
51 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:05:53
I wouldn't put any of the unwanted players in the shop window, by that I mean those confirmed in past few seasons. Besic, Bolasie, Sandro.
I would focus on the players who are more likely to remain and also protect those who are vital to us at present by not having them start the game
I would also be aware of those who have evidenced may be more likely to get injured with games in short succession.

Therefore after careful consideration I would pick the below. I am conscious of the powder puff midfield but still feel they should have enough for a league 2 side at home.

Kenny Keane Branthwaite Nkounkou
Siggy Davies Iwobi
Walcott Kean Bernard

Subs - Virginia Digne Gibson Allan Doucoure Gordon Calvert-Lewin

Rest - Coleman Mina Gomes James Richarlison

Inj - Holgate Delph Gbamin Tosun

I would like to see a few if the new boys get 20-30mins

Fran Mitchell
52 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:17:35
Rest the 3 new players, if any play, then Doucoure.

Rest Richarlison. Rest Digne. Rest Coleman. Rest Mina. Rest Gomes.

Nkounkou Kenny Branthwaite Keane
Iwobi Davies Sigurdsson
Kean DCL Gordon

Take DCL off at half time and bring on Simms

Fixtures will be coming thick and fast and we don't want to force unnecessary injuries. We also need games for the fringe players for them to be some level up to speed when we need to call upon them.

Christopher Timmins
53 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:26:39
A night to give those who are looking for new clubs a chance to impress. Rest everyone who started on Sunday!

Ray Roche
54 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:33:52
Hugh, Christine is correct, Fry’s did make a Five Boys chocolate bar as well as a Fry’s Five Centre, which similar to a Chocolate Cream but with (allegedly) fruit flavours.
Ajay Gopal
55 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:39:39
I agree that we MUST win this game today, but Everton SHOULD be able to beat Salford at home with a team of youngsters who are eager to impress and break into the first XI.

GK: Virginia (if Pickford were to pick up an injury during the season, shouldn't our backup have had at least some competitive game experience?)
RB: Kenny (able deputy for Coleman)
CBs: Branthwaite (already played and impressed in the PL last season), Gibson (again, needs some game experience as he may be called in during the season)
RB: Nkounkou (impressive in pre-season, he will be eager to show what he can do)
MF: Iwobi, Davies, Bernard, Gordon (all of them have a point to prove)
Forwards: Kean, Walcott/Bolasie

SUBS: Lossl, Coleman, Keane, Delph, Siggy, DCL, Simms

Liverpool's kids beat us last year in the FA Cup, surely Everton's 2nd XI can ease past Salford? As someone suggested, Ferguson should be made the manager - so that Carlo can work with the first XI to get them prepared for WBA on Saturday.

Ajay Gopal
56 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:39:39
I agree that we MUST win this game today, but Everton SHOULD be able to beat Salford at home with a team of youngsters who are eager to impress and break into the first XI.

GK: Virginia (if Pickford were to pick up an injury during the season, shouldn't our backup have had at least some competitive game experience?)
RB: Kenny (able deputy for Coleman)
CBs: Branthwaite (already played and impressed in the PL last season), Gibson (again, needs some game experience as he may be called in during the season)
RB: Nkounkou (impressive in pre-season, he will be eager to show what he can do)
MF: Iwobi, Davies, Bernard, Gordon (all of them have a point to prove)
Forwards: Kean, Walcott/Bolasie

SUBS: Lossl, Coleman, Keane, Delph, Siggy, DCL, Simms

Liverpool's kids beat us last year in the FA Cup, surely Everton's 2nd XI can ease past Salford? As someone suggested, Ferguson should be made the manager - so that Carlo can work with the first XI to get them prepared for WBA on Saturday.

Derek Taylor
57 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:40:29
Derek @13 and Christine. Frommy retirement home, I recall the Fry's Boys as Expectation, Realisation, Desperation, Pacification and Acclaim.

Back in the' frantic fifties', we used to say that just about summed up the Everton front five although which of Catterick & Co deserved 'acclaim,` I know not !

Oscar Hold ? Just maybe.

Mike Corcoran
58 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:58:28
Looking forward to a bit of NkounKou
Christine Foster
59 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:04:35
Thank goodness for that, I remember the 5 boys fruit flavoured ones with dark chocolate. (as well as the later 5 centers bar)
Used to have to share them out when grandad came home on a Friday night after finishing work and getting paid by the Mersey Docks and Harbour board..The pockets in his dockers overcoat went all the way to the floor!
Derek Taylor
60 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:11:16
Christine, didn't they used to talk of a docker called Darrell. He used to acquire'surplus' stock with the words 'darell do me !'

But God love 'em all, we are here because they `looked after us` and our familes !

Robert Leigh
61 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:14:27
Don't want to cup-tie anyone who might have some sell-on value, so I'd leave out entirely:

Sigurdsson (we have Delph & Davies who aren't going anywhere)
Walcott (assuming we are in for Bailey)

Also there's a balance to be struck with having inexperience down one side, so having Gibson/Branthwaite at LCB with Nkounkou doesn't work for me. So out of Mina and Digne, Digne has to start (can always be subbed when we're winning).

Kenny - Keane - Gibson - Digne
Davies - Delph - Doucoure
Gordon - DCL - Kean

Bench: Lossl, Branthwaite, Nkounkou, Gomes, Bolasie, Bernard, Richarlison.

Salford will be up for this, luckily with Carlo at the helm we will too!

Christine Foster
62 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:20:02
Haha, yes Derek they did, out of those pockets would come salt fish and the occasional leg of lamb..

Years later I remember nan and later my mum would break the leg of the lamb before cooking.. continuing the tradition I asked mum one day why break the leg before cooking, was it to cook better?, quicker? No she replied, " it's so it can fit in the oven"
Never even thought to ask before haha

Christine Foster
63 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:23:05
Btw Frys chocolate cream.. dates back to 1866... 12 years before the blues came into being..
Fran Mitchell
64 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:32:37
Robert, can't see being cup-tied for the League Cup being in anyway detrimental to the possibile sale of any player.
John Kavanagh
65 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:41:06
I expect Salford (and especially Fleetwood assuming we progress) will seek to level things up with some rough stuff. I think playing any of our new first choice midfield would be taking (what should be) an unnecessary risk. If we lost any of our new midfield with a lengthy injury it could finish our season.

I agree this is a perfect opportunity to give a few of the tougher youngsters a game and allow Kean a full 90 minutes. There should be no place for Sigurdsson who doesn't seem to have the backbone for any sort of physical encounter.

It will be interesting to see what Carlo comes up with to balance the need to pace out the season against the priority of getting some silverware. We need to score early and kill them off by half time. 3-0 please.

Brian Harrison
66 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:44:13
For those calling for Carlo to play his strongest team, they are suggesting that although we are paying the ones outside Sundays team massive wages, they cant be trusted to beat Salford. Well what a sad indictment on what Unsworth and the other non first team coaches are producing. I would remind everyone last season in this very competition Liverpool put out practically there Under 23s side to beat us. Because they knew they had enough talented youngsters to beat Everton a Premier League side, not a 2nd Division side.
Brian Williams
67 Posted 16/09/2020 at 10:54:18
If "cup tied" referred to Champions league then yes, but the Carabao Cup?

Don't think that'd make any difference whatsoever to our fire sale!

Tony Everan
68 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:02:21
There will be changes but we need some toughness in the team for resilience and we will damage them relentlessly with some pace. 4-4-2.

Kenny Keane Gibson Nkounkou
Walcott Doucoure Delph Iwobi
DCL Kean

Alan J Thompson
69 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:04:09
I'd certainly be resting the 3 new lads, Richarlison, Mina and Digne as we don't need unnecessary injuries. If those who replace them can't manage to beat such opposition then they truly don't deserve to be here. A midfield of Sigurdsson, Davies, Gordon and Walcott with DC-L and Kean up front should be good enough with a back four of Coleman/Kenny, Keane, Branthwaite/Gibson and Nkounkou in front of Pickford.
Jim Harrison
70 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:09:03
Strong team needs to be out there, but keep James in the bench unless needed.

Kean needs game time

Nathan Jones
71 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:09:05
Id go for a strong spine, Pickford, Keane, Doucoure, DCL, flancked by other first team squad players. ie braithwaite, Kenny, Nkounkou, Davies, Siggerson, Walcott Keane. I think its important that we play the same formation as Sunday so the players get used to the formation so when injuries / suspensions happen they other players know whats what.
Robert Leigh
72 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:09:39
Fran & Brian

The clubs we'll be selling those clowns to might be worried about the League Cup, it won't be anyone above us!!

Derek Knox
73 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:23:28
Ray@54 & Christine, sadly since Cadbury cornered the market, the confectioner in question is now 'small fry'! :-)

" Haha, yes Derek they did, out of those pockets would come salt fish and the occasional leg of lamb ". Rumour has it that once he was stopped by the normally lackadaisical security, when the aforementioned cut of meat accidentally fell on the floor. Aye, Aye lad what are you doing with that? " Roast Potatoes, Carrots Peas, Mint Sauce and Gravy came the reply "! :-)

Hugh Jenkins
74 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:23:44
Ray (54) - yes I know - I was a big fan of "Five Boys" but to my knowledge, they never made a multi flavour version. In Christine's post that is what she refers to (a multi flavoured versions of "Five Boys") and that is what I originally responded to.

The "Fry's Five Centre" was based on the same shape as "Fry's Peppermint Cream",which was a five segmented semi oval shaped bar with each segment filled with peppermint flavoured fondant cream.

The "Five Centre" version had five segments with a different fruit flavoured fondant filling in each segment.

The "Five Boys" was a flat chocolate bar with five segments each imprinted with the face of a boy with different facial expressions.

David Pearl
75 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:35:58
I'd play the same 11 as on Sunday and give them another game to get used to each other so we can smash WBA on Saturday and go top (and stay there). Lets face it, we should be out of sight by half time and then we can think about resting whoever needs to be rested. Treat this as a practice game and let them have some fun and score some goals. That's the thing really. The formation worked really well against Spurs... going from 433 to 4141 at times. So will it work against a team sitting deep? I hope we find out. Same again Carlo!
Craig Walker
76 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:46:17
I agree with David @75. What's the point giving game time to players who we would like to get rid of unless we are putting them in the shop window? I say play our strongest XI and use it as a chance to fit in the new players. It's a cup competition and we want to progress to the next round. Make changes when the game is safe.
Derek Taylor
77 Posted 16/09/2020 at 12:09:00
Pretty certain it will be a mix of first teamers and usual bench warmers. Can't see Carlo putting any of the 'disaffected' in the line up !
Chris Mason
78 Posted 16/09/2020 at 12:15:13
All this talk of soft centres reminds me of our midfield last season
Danny Baily
80 Posted 16/09/2020 at 12:56:31
Craig, I'd be tempted to keep the likes of James well away from this one. League 2 is pretty... Robust.

A heavily rotated side should still have enough about them to see us safely through to the next round.

Jamie Crowley
81 Posted 16/09/2020 at 12:59:40
Phillip @ 51 nails the starting 11 for me.

I'm one of the "play your best 11" voices on here. But for this game, with the congestion of the fixtures right out of the gate, and absolutely not wanting any of Allan, Doucoure, or James injured, we have to expect the squad to step up and prove their worth.

Save the three amigos for later in this tournament and also the weekends.

John Reynolds @ 34 also nails it for me:

but a reasonably strong selection from last year’s squad would be best (if that’s not an oxymoron). Starting a jewel like James against a 4th Division side would be a reckless endangerment.

Jamie Crowley
82 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:05:54
How many times in Carlo’s post-game presser will he exhale through his lips and make that quick PPrrrr sound? Quickly followed by a one-eyebrow raise?

Seriously, what’s the over-under on something like that? Four? Five?

Chris Hockenhull
83 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:08:08
Hugh 74. You certainly wax lyrical regards the old 5 Boys (me too the ‘fruity’ version was sickly). You may wish to go to YouTube and put in Barry from Watford Minty Biscuit “. A kindred spirit!!!
Stephen Brown
84 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:18:15
Kenny Keane Mina Nkounkou
Davies Doucouré
Walcott Siggy Iwobi

More than enough to beat a league two team but has height, strength, pace and power if they want to mix it up?!

Richy and James on the bench in case

If we are 3 up take off Mina, Keane and Doucouré

Simon Jones
85 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:33:57
I know we call this the Mickey Mouse Cup, especially when that lot win it, but I wouldn't mind if we started with two thirds of the team that started against Spurs and actually went out to try and win it.

Last season's crab-like midfield combination could mean 0-0 after 70 minutes and we'll be shitting ourselves. I'd probably start Dacoure & Allan with Gomes or Walcott and Davies, Bolasie instead of Rodriguez, Kean instead of Richy.

Same defence and Pickford in goal, hopefully they shouldn't be too busy.

Dave Abrahams
86 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:37:25
Simon (85), quick one: It was Liverpool fans who called it The Micky Mouse Cup, when we were the first club from Merseyside to get to the final in the seventies.
Simon Jones
87 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:49:23
Thanks Dave! Didn't know that.
Bill Gall
88 Posted 16/09/2020 at 14:44:38
This is a tricky game as on paper we should be able to put the under 23 team out, and expect a win, but this time we don't want to expect to win we have to continue to raise our game and want to win.
We have to play the players like Allan and Doucoure with the strength and desire to win that we have been lacking for the past couple of seasons in these type of games. Delph should be included as he has to prove that he is a premier player with Iwobi also. I expect Braithwaite to be in but would not include Rodriguez as he seemed to be the only one out of the three new signings that slowed down in the second half of last weekend's game. The only other change I see that will happen will be Kean in for DCL, but then Ancelotti may surprise us with his selection.
It does not matter who the team that Ancelotti puts out what I want to see is a genuine desire to win a game regardless of what division a team is in. 6/7 wins in a cup can put you in Europe.
Pat Kelly
89 Posted 16/09/2020 at 14:58:03
"This competition can give you momentum and purpose very quickly in the season, more than is normal this year because of the schedule. It is crucial straight away to show we will be confident in our stadium this season. We want teams to hate the 90 minutes on the field when they come to Goodison. Every successful side starts by being strong on its own ground "

Seems Carlo is taking this seriously.

Andrew Ellams
90 Posted 16/09/2020 at 14:59:55
Ironic the RS fans calling this the Mickey Mouse cup when they've now won it more than anybody else.
Jay Harris
91 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:05:25
You are absolutely correct.

My grandad used to get off work every Friday afternoon and would take me to a sweet shop on the corner of Islington and Commutation Row and get me a Frys five boys which as you say was a flat thin bar of chocolate with boys faces imprinted in the chocolate.

Maybe we can have the Everton version of five boys with Allan, James, Doucoure, Richy and Digne. Now that would be very digestible.

Per Stumo
92 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:11:24
I'd want us to start with a mix of 2nd string players (Kean, Davies, Kenny, Bernard, Gylfi), players we're looking to get rid of (Besic, Bolasie, Delph, Walcott) and a smatter of youngsters (Branthwaite, Niels, Gordon, Baningime).

We'll win the game. The 2nd string gets to prove themselves to signori Ancelotti, the has-beens get to show off for potential buyers and the youngsters gain valuable experience. In theory.

For the Scandinavian fans this game is shown live on V Sport 2 (formerly Viasport 2).

Nick White
93 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:13:36
I’d definitely be going with the core of the side from Sunday with some of the younger and fringe players rotated in. I would not be playing any of the deadwood who’s attitudes have stunk out the place for years. Vital we keep momentum and when we are cruising then bring on the subs to freshen it up ahead of Saturday.
Kevin Molloy
94 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:24:10
the lamentable Echo has it's latest headline 'Rodriguez starts in changed lineup'. only when you click on their wretched link do you learn, that this is a team conjured from the air by their 'journalists'.
Danny O’Neill
95 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:27:51
As I said above, I'm in the start with a strong side, get the game won, then take players off to rest gang. History records don't show that Tottenham (for example), have won the meaningless Mickey Mouse Cup 4 times. It adds 4 x trophies to their honours list.

The feeling of winning a trophy again will unlock this club and be a statement. I remember feeling a wave of anticipation at Wembley in 1984 and want to feel that again. I didn't care then it was the Milk/League Cup and I don't now.

That said, I get the argument and the sentiment of not risking players. But, I hate this perception that foreign players and South Americans in particular can't "mix it". It's hardly like growing up in the Favellas or Bogota doesn't toughen you up a bit.

Likewise, as per another forum, a Man United fan reserving judgement on James until he sees him in the winter. Please, have you been to Munich & Germany in the winter?

Whoever plays tonight, let's take it serious, get the game won and get a game closer to Wembley.

Robert Tressell
96 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:39:18
I would love us to get serious about the cups. Restore our sense of belief in winning - fans and players.
Mike Gaynes
97 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:39:42
If James starts at a 4th-level side, I will have a heart attack.

Our starting midfield from two months ago will be just fine for Salford. Leave out the newbies.

Tony Everan
98 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:51:40
We started half asleep against Blackpool and were 3-0 down after about 20 minutes. We need to start with concentration and have some steel and organisation to make sure we out-muscle them. Then the quality, fitness and pace will speak for itself. Salford wont just turn up and roll over they will be sticking the boot in and trying to turn it into a battle.
David Cash
99 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:03:55
I'm happy to trust Carlo to make the right calls regarding selection. He will want to get game time into some of his squad, but he will have seen the fitness reports and have a good grasp on who should and who shouldnt be risked

Must win
Gareth Clark
100 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:16:25
Lössl, Kenny, Mina, Keane, Nkoukou, Doucoure, Sigurdsson, Gomes, James, Kean, Iwobi

Subs: Virginia, Branthwaite, Davies, Allan, Gordon, Bernard, Simms

Geoff Lambert
101 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:16:58
We have got more chance of winning this than anything else. Full team out for tonight rest a few for WBA. we aint going to win the league now are we?
Gareth Clark
102 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:20:47
Kenny Mina Keane Nkoukou
Gordon Davies Sigurdsson
Iwobi Kean Bernard

Subs: Virginia, Branthwaite, Delph, Walcott, Bolasie, Sandro, Simms

Julian Wait
103 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:22:58
Play a serious team and only rest players who need it so they can train / recuperate properly to avoid injury. It's a long season ahead of us and some of these guys are not 100% fit.

I personally wouldn't play Rodriquez for those reasons alone. I also would not include any players that definitely don't have a future at Everton; we need to build a tight-knit squad and understandings and relationships between the players who will stay. If they're marginal but possible, maybe give them a runout.

As stated previously, and without naming names, that should still leave enough talented - and motivated - players to win this game.

Robert Tressell
104 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:23:24
I think we should be able to play a young back 4 without too much trouble.

I'd go:


Defence is a bit inexperienced / youthful but Gomes and Sigurdsson should control the game and plenty of goals in the front 3.

Iwobi, Bernard and Simms to make an appearance too, maybe 2nd half.

Dave Abrahams
105 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:28:14
A couple of posters have said, quite rightly, that Salford will play a tough, rough game and yet, have put Walcott and Iwobi in their starting line ups, two players who back out of 25/75 tackles!!
Brian Williams
106 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:35:22
Hear hear mate. Both Frankie Howard's in my book!
Geoff Lambert
107 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:44:37
My team to win a cup and qualify for a European tour.

Pickford; Coleman, Keane, Mina, Nkounkou Doucouré, Allan, Gomes' Bernard Richarlison, Kean

Geoff Lambert
108 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:47:37
3-0 up then make a few changes.

COYB 25 years and counting

Steve Greir
109 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:18:28
ESPN (Everton Supporters Please Note) Brasil, we're on live here - channel 160.
Tom Barton
110 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:23:10
Hey up blues
every opinion is fair, respect.
For me, if any of our new midfield, especially Jim, are anywhere near this game its a simple no.
No friggin way we should be putting these 3 players at any kind of risk, just one loon in the Salford side, all due respect, that wants a 'name', could have a massive influence on our season.
Any of the other players, stealing a living, should have the bollocks, and more importantly, some pride, to earn their silly wages.
Terry Farrell
111 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:24:02
we put in a real shift on Sunday so I don't want any player from that starting 11 in the team tonight. the remaining players should be fired up and win convincingly.
wba game is too important and anyone without a full pre season eg James will need his fitness building up.
Ajay Gopal
112 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:29:33
Amusing to see some TWers suggesting we play our strongest XI. Years of failure have made us a scared bunch. Our weekend opponents - WBA have made 10 changes (yes, 10) and are presently leading their League Cup tie comfortably. Carlo should challenge the fringe players and youngsters to come up with the goods. If he plays more than 3 players from last Sunday’s game, I would be very disappointed.
Mike Gaynes
113 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:35:24
American Blues, ESPN+ is working fine on the WBA/Harrogate game right now, so we should be able to access ours just fine.

It's a subscription services, so if you haven't signed up yet, you might want to do so now.

Kieran Kinsella
114 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:41:24

I am glad our suffering amuses you

Kev Gibbs
115 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:46:57
Tom Barton @110 sums team selection up perfectly.
Michael Barrett
116 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:59:35
You lot are dreaming if you think carlo will play the same team what beat Tottenham it will be a mix of dead beats that were stuck with, the owner and the manager don't give 2 fucks for this trophy, staying in the premiership is no1 priority
Rob Halligan
117 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:06:44
I mentioned elsewhere on the forum that this Salford team got tonked 6-0 by man Utd U23's in the EFL Trophy last week. Now I'm not sure if it was Salfords strongest team or not, but FFS we shouldn't need any of last Sunday's team to beat these.
Daniel A Johnson
118 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:07:12
Everton B team and the unwanted tonight.

Be interesting to see how they feel about being picked to play Salford whereas others get rested. Lets hope the attitude is correct

Michael Barrett
119 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:14:41
It seams to work alright for our friends across the park...there b team is scared to play shit mate
Rob Halligan
120 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:15:54
Michael # 116. This season could be the season when every manager, not just ours, considers taking the league cup seriously. Before this month is out, there will only be eight teams left in the carabao cup, having only played three or four league games. The quarter finals aren't due to be played until December, so I think it could, or should be taken seriously this season.
Stan Schofield
121 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:17:44
We'd have to have really poor strength-in-depth to even consider fielding more than one or two of Sunday's team. We haven't got great depth, but it's not bad enough to avoid fielding other players, to keep the main XI fresh and reduce the added risks that can be run playing against relatively unskilled Salford players who are likely to be up for a right old scrap. We can take this cup seriously AND avoid unnecessary risk.
Howard Sykes
122 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:24:10
Any team Everton field should be good enough but remember the FA Cup game against the Liverpool third team last year.
Per Stumo
123 Posted 16/09/2020 at 19:24:31
Virginia - Kenny, Keane, Branthwaite, Nkounkou, Davies, Gylfi, Walcott, Gordon, Bernard, Kean

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

» Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site.

About these ads