Everton bring keeper Olsen in loan

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Everton have completed their second deal of Transfer Deadline Day with the acquisition of Swedish international goalkeeper Robin Olsen.

The 30-year-old was picked up on a season-long loan from AS Roma where he had recently been made available for transfer having spent the previous season on loan at Cagliari.

After spending the first eight years of his career in his native Sweden, ending with a three-year stint at his hometown club, Malmö, Olsen moved to PAOK in Greece in 2015 but was loaned to FC Copenhagen in 2016 before signing for the Danish club on a permanent basis that year.

Roma signed him from Denmark for €12m following his exploits during the 2018 World Cup in Russia where he helped his country reach the last eight but his move to Italy didn't go as planned.

He played the first season in Rome but was sent out on loan to Cagliari in August last year during which time he was suspended for four matches for a fracas with Gianluca Lapadula of Lecce.

Olsen, who has been capped 38 times by Sweden, has been brought in by Marcel Brands and Carlo Ancelotti to provide competition for Jordan Pickford who has been in unpredictable form in 2020. He will wear the No 33 shirt previously worn by Joel Robles.

The loan deal with AS Roma does not include an option for Everton to buy Olsen on a permanent deal but it is understood that the club will pay his full wages until the end of June 2021.

 

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James Stewart
1 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:08:13
Won't provide any competition for Pickford at all. More likely a Lossl replacement, and a poor one at that.

Colin Glassar
2 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:08:54
Awe inspiring not. Good luck Jasper.
Steve Ferns
3 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:09:00
Not seen any confirmation of this. Where's the source?

Seems the echo and other sources are confirming it on Twitter.

Very underwhelming. But I'll certainly trust in Carlo Ancelotti and Marcel Brands' judgement on this one.

Paul Hughes
4 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:09:03
Sky haven’t caught up yet. But I’m sure this will be completed. Seems like a very sensible move to me to have some experienced cover for the iffy incumbent. Welcome to the joyride, Robin.
Geoff Harrison
5 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:13:50
I presume this Olsen can play up front. I just hope that the somewhat negative response to this signing is not at all reflected in the dressing room. Hard to say, but I agree with James (1) he doesn't represent a serious alternative to Pickford, so what's the point?
Matt Brown
6 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:14:39
Underwhelming end to an excellent window. Fail to see where this keeper Is going to provide the competition needed for Pickford, in Carlo we trust, but with all the money being spent, surely £8m on Romero would have been the better choice.
Neil Cremin
7 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:15:33
Don’t know if he is any good but at least it is recognition that Jordan is a problem
David Cooper
8 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:17:17
He is 6’5” so that’s a good start! Played for Sweden in the 1998 World Cup. And Harry boy on SSN reckons he’s a good keeper!
Kunal Desai
9 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:17:30
Pickford will most likely be replaced with someone more superior next summer. Always going to be tough to bring in a quality number two. Got to trust Brands and Ancelotti on this one. This should give Pickford a kick up the backside, buckle up or your benched for this season.
Grant Rorrison
10 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:19:56
David 8. I assume you mean 2018?!?
David Cooper
11 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:20:55
Thanks Grant! It just seems like 12 years!
Steve Ferns
12 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:21:48
Grant, Harry redknapp probably thinks we signed Andreas Isaksson!
Frank Wade
13 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:32:11
I typed Robin Olsen into the search box on YouTube and the first option shown is 'Robin Olsen mistakes', although there is also a clip of his best saves.
Jack Convery
14 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:33:01
Sweden 6pm Sunday 11th Oct v Croatia to get a 1st glimpse of Olsen if he plays.
Pete Williams
15 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:34:26
First choice for his country 48 times so maybe he's a better option than the invisible goalkeeper (Lossl). We can loan him to someone like Blackpool or Fleetwood. He might also be better than Pickford when he totally loses it and needs a straitjacket.
Keith Monaghan
16 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:35:22
He's been signed to replace Lossl, who'll drop down a division or two before 16th October - performance on the training ground will determine if he can challenge JP - presumably, Carlo's knowledge from Seria A etc suggests he may be able to.
James Flynn
17 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:35:28
If he can play without the near-inexplicable dumb mistakes that are part and parcel with Pickford, he'll do for now.

Julian Wait
18 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:36:42
Frank #13 - I bet that's Everton fans - and maybe some others on a wind up - looking to see if he has any prior.
Phil Lewis
19 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:36:53
Just been looking at Olsen's best bits on YouTube. (I do realise that Sandro, Kean and Niasse all looked like world beaters on YouTube!) He's a big lad, 6.5ft and looks very agile. Biggest plus over Pickford? He looks comfortable either collecting or punching crosses/high balls from corners and dead ball situations. A Swedish International keeper, this loan deal has to be good business. Personally I would have no hesitation putting him straight into the first team. I can sleep more comfortably tonight, as I've said on here for so long that we would win nothing with Pickford in goal.
Peter Thistle
20 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:38:51
Finally a proper goalkeeper, can't wait till he takes over from Pickford, it's bound to happen. Ancellotti lies when he says he trusts JP.
Jack Convery
21 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:41:36
Peter - he trusts him to cock up.
Duncan McDine
22 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:42:54
David (11) - I assume you mean that it feels like 22 years
Martin Berry
23 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:49:04
Even Harry had a good word to say about him from his sources that say he is a top keeper.
Respect the number of caps he has for Sweden and he could be built for the English game, glad to have him.
Kevin Prytherch
24 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:50:24
This strikes me as one of Unsworths overage signings to make sure he can get his hands on the PL2 trophy again. Typical Everton, chasing mediocre U23 silverware instead of concentrating on developing our own keepers.
Mike Gaynes
25 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:50:27
Peter #20, regarding "Finally a proper goalkeeper"... don't get your hopes up. He's a proper Viking god at 6-6 with Thor's physique, but as for actual goalkeeping... well, I posted this on the other thread. Royal Blue Mersey interviewed a guy from Chiesa di Totti, the Roma blog, about Olsen. Here are some of his comments:

CDT - "Olsen is and has been definitively on the chopping block for nearly 18 months now, while Lopez is currently in a state of limbo. But, to be honest, they’re both there for the same reason: they’re passive and error-prone keepers, both of whom lost their jobs to Antonio Mirante, who is really nothing more than a solid journeyman type of keeper. Olsen cuts a much larger figure and uses his massive limbs/reach pretty well, but was just too slow off his line and not really quick enough in distribution. Couple that with a few glaring errors in critical matches and you have Roma’s current predicament: two decidedly average keepers that have been incredibly difficult to offload."

"[Olsen] started off well enough in 2018 and even got a cleansheet on his debut, but the wheels fell off almost immediately: he conceded 15 goals over his next six matches and finished with 58 goals conceded in 35 appearances in 2018-2019. He really does use his massive frame to his advantage, but in the end, he’s just too passive and slow to suit Roma’s build-from-the-back approach."

"He is a massive, massive keeper but, at least based on advanced metrics, he’s decidedly middling when it comes to shot-stopping and even claiming crosses. It’s possible that he might find more success in a different league, but he wasn’t up to snuff in Serie A for some reason. And leadership... eh, not so much in Rome; he struggled to communicate with Roma’s defenders, who were largely Italian, so perhaps if his English is stronger than his Italian he’ll have better luck."

Martin, he was certainly a top keeper at the World Cup for Sweden. Let's hope that the Olsen we meet and not the one who's been knocking around Serie A.

Kevin Dyer
26 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:52:21
#19 Phil metrics indicate he's much worse than Jordan in terms of claiming crosses, despite his height. Very few clean sheets for Roma and Cagliari over the past 2 seasons and lots of errors which is why Roma farmed him out on loan after only 1 season. Can't see this fella offering serious competition for Pickford tbh. Still, far more likely to be trusted than Lossl, who has never managed a game for us, even against lower league cup opposition; he certainly seems an upgrade on him.

I think we tried to bring in competition at GK but were unwilling to shell out on a big wage or fee. Reassess in January I think. Hopefully Pickford sorts himself out.

Glad Bernard didn't go the other way, I like the fella and think he can contribute this season, if used correctly.

Steve Ferns
27 Posted 05/10/2020 at 23:53:00
Kevin, I think you are right. We've signed Olsen to play in the u23s and Harry Tyrer is now free of u23 duties and can push Pickford out of the first team! it all makes sense now.
Steve Ferns
28 Posted 05/10/2020 at 00:02:38
I'm also glad Bernard didn't leave. I know we need to balance the books, but I like the little magician and without him, Bolasie would have been edging back into the first team.

Martin Berry, the "built for the English game" comments refer to the traditional Italian style of football. Remember Per Koldrup? David Moyes was nothing if not meticulous in his homework on potential transfers, which is why he got the nickname "Dithering Davey" on here. So, it was an insight into Italian football that Moyes never picked up on how bad Koldrup was at heading the ball. It's simply not part of Italian football. Sure, there's plenty of headers and goals from corners and the like, but aerial duels in Italy are nothing like they are here.

So the hope is, surely, that this massive keeper's strengths are under-recognised and under-utilised in a league where the play is more technical. Perhaps once he starts playing for us, he will show his ability on crosses and command of his area, soak in the confidence flowing through the team and produce his best football?

Wishful thinking for sure, because whenever I've seen him, he's mostly just been picking the ball out of the net.

Martin Berry
29 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:05:05
Steve,

In Carlo I trust, he has been pretty good so far!

James Flynn
30 Posted 05/10/2020 at 00:05:41
Mike (25) - Thanks. Interesting read. Much appreciated.

In the end, just another guy spouting an opinion on a player. Olsen just can't have the routine case of the jitters like Pickford.

I'll preface this next with an acknowledgement that it's a bit American to American, yet all Evertonian to Evertonian. I'd love to knock 10 years off Tim Howard's age and have him backstop this Everton Team.

Bill Gienapp
31 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:25:22
Underwhelming. Feels like he's been brought in to serve as a more viable backup (since Lössl could hardly be less viable at this point), as opposed to genuinely challenging Pickford. Mike's post at (25) makes for pretty grim reading. We might as well have just kept Stekelenburg around.
Steve Ferns
32 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:32:46
James Flynn, do you remember Tim Howard's early days? He was 27 years of age when he joined Everton. He was at Man Utd, as I am sure you are very much aware, when he had a series of calamities and left under a cloud. He was very much a laughing stock in Manchester, and they were certainly surprised at his resurgence in blue. However, despite how well he played for us, it was forever blotted by the odd error.

In his autobiography, former Man Utd coach and Man City goalkeeper, Tony Coton had to say this: Link

Tim Howard, at 27 years of age, turned his career around. Is it possible for 26 year old Jordan Pickford to do the same?

Perhaps another signing that Carlo Ancelotti could still make is to employ a top class goalkeeping coach. Let's not forget that the highly regarded Hugo Oliveira left with Marco Silva. Hugo was with Marco Silva throughout his 3-year spell in England, but he was not with him in Portugal or Greece. Instead, Hugo was at Benfica where he was responsible for bringing through Ederson (now of Man City) and Jan Oblak (now of Atletico Madrid).

Everton's current goalkeeping coach is Alan Kelly. Alan Kelly played for Preston North End, Sheffield United (in the PL in the '90s) and Blackburn Rovers. Following his retirement he worked in soccer camps in the USA, before joining PNE as a youth coach where he met David Unsworth.

When Unsworth took over from Koeman, and Patrick Lodewijks had departed with his fellow Dutchman, Unsworth brought in his old mate Kelly as a temporary coach. After Allardyce came in he appointed his old mate, and long time collaborator Martyn Margetson to the role. For some reason, Unsworth was allowed to keep Kelly in a job as an U23 goalkeeper coach after dropping back down to the U23s.

Then after Allardyce and co cleared out, Silva brought in Hugo Oliveira with him from Watford. After Silva left, so did all of his staff. So when Duncan was caretaker he appointed Jeffers and Ebbrell as coaches and promoted Alan Kelly to goalkeeper coach.

Carlo Ancelotti brought in very few actual coaches. Just his son and a couple of fitness coaches. Alan Kelly has remained firmly in place as goalkeeper coach.

I have no idea how good Alan Kelly is at his job. Carlo Ancelotti is a very good judge of character. Clearly he rates him, or he would not still be in a job almost a year later. I just wonder though, with the severe dip in form of Pickford, the inability of Lossl to show any ability to lay down a marker in any of the games that he's played and for the very highly rated, U19 European Champion Joao Virginia to still have not made a significant breakthrough, whether it is possible that Alan Kelly is not up to the job and that Carlo Ancelotti might want someone else to bring Pickford back to his best?

Jamie Crowley
33 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:35:38
Hang on. So we have Lössl, Virginia, and now Olsen.

How many keepers do we need? Can we play two at a time? Someone steer me as to the thinking behind this because I only see more salary expense.

James Stewart
34 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:36:16
@25 Accurate perspective. In many ways the Swedish Pickford, meaning he is terrible. I highly doubt he will play a single game.
Karl Masters
35 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:38:43
Whilst I say give this fella a chance, two things strike me:

We might as well have kept the Stek, who did a solid enough job.

Why the hell are we paying Lössl £53k a week for if he's not going to play?????

Steve Ferns
36 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:39:40
Jamie Crowley, expect one or both of Lössl and Virginia to depart on loan to the Championship or lower. The Championship has another 10 days or so to conclude their transfers (from within England only) and so expect Brands to get Lössl back out on loan.

There's a load of Championship clubs who got off to a bad start who might fancy a keeper with Premier League experience (at Huddersfield rather than us). Virginia is now 20 and should be more mature and capable to step out on loan now.

For that matter, there's still time to get Bolasie, Besic, and Baningime off on loan to Championship (or lower) clubs.

Karl Masters, I read he's on £25k a week. He was on a low wage at Huddersfield and did nothing to justify a big wage here.

Tom Bowers
37 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:45:34
Let's all pray that Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison stay healthy until the next window at least.
Jamie Crowley
38 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:46:41
Steve Ferns -

Thank you. What appeared on the surface to make no sense to this dullard now is clear.

Steve Ferns
39 Posted 06/10/2020 at 00:52:46
Tom Bowers, we have until a week on Friday to sign players from a lower league in England. This means we can still do a deal for Josh King of Bournemouth who are looking for just £10m. Also Sarr of Watford is also available but they want top dollar and after missing out on Sancho, Man Utd are favourites for him.
Michael Penley
40 Posted 06/10/2020 at 01:15:49
The type of coach Pickford most needs isn't a goalkeeping coach, I would be getting him a meditation coach. He looks permanently wired during the game as if he's just downed 6 cups of coffee and done a few lines of cocaine. I'm sure the mistakes come from this manic mindset and if the club aren't addressing this then they should be.

Bring in a Zen Buddhist monk to work with him, anything. The keeper should be the calmest player on the pitch, not a frenetic hamster who would die if he had to keep still for 5 seconds.

Mike Gaynes
41 Posted 06/10/2020 at 01:17:47
Steve, you may be right about those keeper loans -- and Tyrer.

There are other Championship strikers we could look at as backups, but King makes perfect sense -- pacy, ridiculously hardworking, experienced, a decent scoring record (50 in 171 games isn't terrible), and clearly wants out.

WBA and Villa are reported in for him too, and Bournemouth reportedly turned down a bid from Torino this morning, so we oughta move on him quick-like if we're gonna.

Personally, I'm glad Bernard is still around -- I still think he's gonna win us a big game this season -- and that we haven't given up on Kean.

Colin Metcalfe
42 Posted 06/10/2020 at 03:11:56
Man Utd have been shuffling shit our way for years and our gullible club has been happy to take them. Yet the moment they view Everton as a potential top 4 rival, they refuse to do business with us regarding Romero.

Yes, I can't stand our obnoxious neighbours but I think Man Utd are worse they act like you are a good friend whilst stabbing you in the back.

Phil Smith
43 Posted 06/10/2020 at 03:29:31
For me, he was the best keeper at the last World Cup. Solid, dependable and reliable. Basically everything Pickford isn’t at the moment. Good choice, I think.
Ernie Baywood
44 Posted 06/10/2020 at 03:55:53
Seems to me that we've assessed that there is some risk that Pickford completely collapses and we simply had to get the best fallback option we could.

Which is fine by me. I don't seriously expect him to take Pickford's place though.

Bill Gienapp
45 Posted 06/10/2020 at 04:26:43
Phil (43) - The problem is, if we're just going by the last World Cup, then we'd all be ecstatic to have Pickford.
Alan J Thompson
46 Posted 06/10/2020 at 04:40:44
Jamie (#33); What do you mean, why do we need four keepers? Obviously they are to go with the eight central defenders, the four full backs and the eleven midfielders. And then there's the "deadwood" list, but that has 10 days to go.
Mike Gaynes
47 Posted 06/10/2020 at 04:43:27
Bill #45, you da man!
Andy Griff
48 Posted 06/10/2020 at 06:33:35
Get him between the sticks for the derby. Can't be any worse than Pickford in his current form.
Mike Allison
49 Posted 06/10/2020 at 06:35:52
I agree with Michael @40.

Download a £5.99 meditation app for Pickford and we could save £20-30m on a new keeper.

Steve Shave
50 Posted 06/10/2020 at 07:04:41
Mike 49 or a few grand on a Psychiatrist who can prescribe Ritalin.
Jason Barker
51 Posted 06/10/2020 at 08:42:15
What's not to like about this? A loan of an experienced, giant of an international keeper? That'll do. Jesus, if he can catch a ball then that's an upgrade of what we're having to persist with at the moment.
Brent Stephens
52 Posted 06/10/2020 at 08:49:44
Don't know anything about the guy but it seems that several clubs decided to put him out on loan.
Christopher Timmins
53 Posted 06/10/2020 at 08:54:55
Folks I don't know anything about the guy but, given the current form of Pickford, we just had to bring in a goalkeeper. Hopefully he will start our next game.
Laurie Hartley
54 Posted 06/10/2020 at 08:56:51
Colin # 42 - you make a very good point. Why would any of our rivals do a deal with us that will strengthen our team?

Conversely, if any rival Club offers us a player, why would we take them up on it?

Romero was worth us asking United the question - they put the block on it for a reason.

Anyway - let’s look on the bright side - Olsen might be the business. We won’t know until he gets a game.

Carl Manning
55 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:09:29
Typical Everton, Kevin? How have Everton been anywhere near typical this season and the transfer window? Ridiculous thing to say.

Typical Everton to win 7 in 7. Typical Everton to follow their manager's convictions and sign the players he wanted. Typical Everton to have made the 2 best signings of the window in Allan and James? Typical Everton to have given the fan base so much hope and optimism?

What is typical Everton is fans thinking they know best and slating the club and players at every opportunity! How many times have we seen Olsen play? 2/3 I would guess with most of us. Carlo would have seen him loads in Italy. There will be a reason Carlo went for him instead of Romero. I think he has proven he is untypical Everton and a winner.

Why don't we do what Everton have done, and trust the manager?

Peter Gorman
56 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:12:15
Oh Carl, and we were doing so well...
Eddie Dunn
57 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:12:17
A token gesture to keep Pickford on his toes but not his replacement. If Pickford responds, then it's a win-win situation; if his form continues to be erratic, then expect Pope or similar at the end of the season.

However, although many have questioned this guy's ability, just the presence of a big, calm goalkeeper might just help to settle the defence down.

Rob Dolby
58 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:15:32
I can't see him displacing Pickford. I think it's more likely that Olsen has been bought to replace Lössl who seems to be injured a lot.
Ernie Baywood
59 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:16:54
Can't believe the people saying they hope he starts the next game.

Have they even got any idea if he's any good?

Seems unbelievably odd to me.

Karl Meighan
60 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:20:46
Phil @43,

Pickford was the best keeper at the last World Cup, imo. He's made a few errors but, as yet this season, they have only cost goals, not points. He made two very good saves at Spurs which contributed to a fine away win.

It's his dealing with crosses and commanding his area that worry me. Corners and anything thrown into the box, he seems to struggle, I would like to see him look to catch rather than punch crosses away.

Let's back him and hope he has lots of improvement in him. I'm sure he is probably his own biggest critic and, until he costs us, stick with him as Romero and the like are certainly not way above.

Tony Everan
61 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:24:19
Olsen is a Lössl replacement; Lössl will likely go on loan in the next 11 days if possible, probably with us paying part of his wages. Roma obviously saw major flaws in Olsen but he is a stop (stopper) gap for a year. There will be some work done to find a more permanent replacement next summer if Pickford doesn't dramatically improve.

I think Romero is out of contract in June so it could be we sign him on a free, giving him a 2- or 3-year contract to be our solid back up keeper.

It will be interesting to see if Olsen can step up his game and provide realistic competition. He may not be world class but he could offer better stability than Jordan if he is up for it.

On the other hand, Pickford could be forced to get his act together and improve.

Bill Griffiths
62 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:27:49
Mike, Steve do you think King would want to come and sit on the bench?
Paul Dewhurst
63 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:32:59
Top of the league, do some great player trading and at the last-minute replace Martin Stekelenburg with someone similar but 8 years younger and you all still moan.

We are not buying a keeper who replaces Pickford. The squad was strengthened, to replace Pickford, we are going to need to spend the next year lining people up and buying a replacement rather than a panic-buy keeper.

Sam Hoare
64 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:34:16
A real shame we didn't get Romero. Think he maybe has what it takes to be first choice, and a very decent one at that.

Olsen looks no great shakes. Very big but not great at crosses and not super mobile. Reminds me a bit of Begovic.

He was really bad at Roma. He was also not good in his last season at Copenhagen. But he was actually pretty good at Cagliari on loan last season so maybe there's some hope.

Will be interesting to see if he's given a shot after Pickfords next howler.

Those who've seen my constant Pickford bashing will know that I refer alot to save percentage. And a bit to xG, as in how many saves keepers makes compared to what they 'should' save.

Olsen's career save percentage is 73%, which is about 6% higher than Pickfords.

And also an encouraging article here: Link

Which shows that halfway through last season Olsen had some of the best stats in Europe for keeping out shots that might be expected to go in; ie he was conceeding less goals than would be expected given the xg.

Jim Potter
65 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:34:40
No one is more frustrated with Pickford than me. And the main reason is that he is a great goalkeeper.

His concentration is wavering and his confidence is shot.

But I'd stick with him hoping he rides this out and comes back as the keeper I think he can be.

He's had a poor time for quite some time but there's quality in him and some unbelievable reflexes.

If they can help him mentally with a sports psychiatrist then I think he will recover and improve drastically.

We need to back the lad not crucify him. We are after all meant to be supporters. (Even of supposed lost causes).

Flak jacket on.

Derek Thomas
66 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:36:15
It will take balls the size of Viz's Buster Gonads to make the decision to throw Olsen in for the derby.

Over to you, Carlo...

Steve Ferns
67 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:48:48
Sam, for Cagliari, Olsen reminded me of Lössl. Countless highlights of him diving in vain and picking the ball out of the net with the occasional save.

I still think we dodged a bullet on Romero. He'd have been on big money and would be nothing more than expensive backup. This fella won't even be on a third of Romero's wages.

With the impending departures this summer, I hope Brands is able to identify and secure a top-class keeper to take us to the next level, particularly for what is likely to be a European campaign of some sort (touch wood but remember there's the new European Conference - a bit like the Johnson's Paint Trophy for midtable clubs like us).

Eric Myles
68 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:49:20
Tony #61, Donamurra is out of contract next season also, but I don't think he'll want to come sit on our bench.

Sam #64, we didn't get Romero 'cos Man Utd see us as a challenge to the top four, which is good news and it means we won't be getting any more of their cast-offs like Smalling.

Steve Ferns
69 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:57:37
Bill Griffiths, I think Josh King would certainly want to sit on our bench against a season in the championship. Also, he knows full well that injuries are inevitable and I bet he would have the confidence that he can get into our side and stay there, and not look back.

Let's see what happens. But I'm a little worried we are short up top. Sure Richarlison is a good alternative to Calvert-Lewin, but if he's already on the pitch, then he can't offer fresh legs.

If we don't sign anyone, it'll be very interesting to see how Carlo keeps us fresh. He's often pulled Calvert-Lewin off with a few minutes to go, so without Kean, it'll be interesting to see who he now turns to.

Phil Lewis
70 Posted 06/10/2020 at 09:58:43
I have been a critic of Pickford's virtually since we signed him. In the past I've been howled down both in the Gwladys Street and on ToffeeWeb for my comments regarding his poor positional sense, weak handling of crosses and his 'small' stature for a top quality keeper.

I take no pleasure from the fact that many of my dtractors have come to agree with me. I have willed him to prove me wrong. I still will be more than happy to eat my words if Pickford can eradicate these defects in his game and find the necessary level of consistency at the highest level, which is after all, what the whole team is aiming for.

We have brought in Olsen, the man is already gathering statistical criticism from ToffeeWebbers before he has pulled a jersey on for us! Personally, I would throw him straight in against Liverpool, a baptism of fire. But whichever goalkeeper Carlo chooses for the derby, be it Pickford, Olsen, Lössl or Virginia, I for one will be right behind them.

Barry Rathbone
71 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:01:27
Something had to be done.

With Pickford's litany of gaffes continuing into this season and the whole nation trembling at the idea of him representing England his career at the top flight is essentially finished.

Only a matter of time before he is turning out for Hartlepool.

Sam Hoare
72 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:05:15
Steve@67, I'm not that bothered about highlights. The stats say that at Cagliari, who were very poor, that Olsen saved 76% of the shots he faced and made no errors leading to goals. I'll be happy enough if he plays for us and replicates that form. But I'm not convinced by him overall, seems to parry a lot and not hold onto shots enough.

We'll have to differ on Romero. I think he'd have had a really good chance of taking the gloves permanently from Pickford which might have saved us searching for a new goalkeeper next summer.

James Marshall
73 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:08:21
One thing people complain about with Pickford is he's too small – Olsen is 6'-5" so at least he's tall. We like tall players at Everton, don't we.

Kevin Dyer
74 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:26:00
#72 Sam - no errors last season? That's good to know at least. Sounds like his handling is good and he's not erratic, at least. Lets hope Pickford thinks this fella has been brought in to breath down his neck (even if he hasn't, in reality) and gets focused.
Danny Baily
75 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:30:47
Looks like a solid keeper. In an ideal world, he'd start our matches from this point on. Someone who can put some gloves on and catch a ball would be a big improvement on Pickford.

Understand if Carlo persists with Pickford though. It's a big call to drop the keeper who went into the season as the No 1.

Remember when Burnley dropped Joe Hart and it turned their season around? Imagine what a solid keeper would bring to this setup. It could be the difference between a decent season and a great one.

Sam Hoare
76 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:31:39
Kevin, should be noted he only played 17 games for Cagliari, so quite a small sample size. I believe there were a couple of errors at Roma so i'm not sure how good his handling is in all honesty.
Drew O’Neall
77 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:37:54
Eric 68

Donnarumma won’t be sitting on our bench if he comes.

Kevin Dyer
78 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:40:52
#76 I see, Sam. Interesting to read that the Roma fans were kind of on his case from the start due to animosity towards DoF/Recruitment Monchi? Can't help anyone, especially a position that requires concentration.

Anyway, he looks like an upgrade on Lössl and this looks like the best we could get, considering we didn't want to (or could) buy a better option outright.

Mike Keating
79 Posted 06/10/2020 at 10:51:43
Mike @ 25,

Good analysis from Martin which leads me to question your hopeful conclusion: “He was certainly a top keeper at the World Cup for Sweden. Let's hope that the Olsen we meet and not the one who's been knocking around Serie A.“

I think we signed Besic on the same basis and look what happened there.

I guess he's a better standard of cover than already available and at the end of the season, Carlo will pull a star keeper out of his magic hat – if we are really challenging for honours this is the most important position to fill.

Frank Wade
80 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:00:35
Sam #64, Thanks for posting that link. The comparison on goalkeepers by their saves of Expected goals is a very good stat. They can be at the mercy of their defensive systems.
Frank Wade
81 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:10:19
This Link shows there is nothing wrong with his one-on-one ability or agility. Link
Mike Keating
82 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:14:19
Me @79

Apologies for the error - I mistook Martin as the author of the blog Mike provided. As the edit button seems to have disappeared, it was too late to change.

Has the edit button gone for good or is it just me?

Frank Wade
83 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:22:24
Mike #83. The Edit button works ok for me, on a laptop using Firefox.
Jonathan Tasker
84 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:29:30
Happy to have Olsen. I'd definitely be playing him in the derby. Pickford is easily the worst goalkeeper in the Premier League. That's borne out in the official stats.

On Pickford, there's something not right about him. I used to attribute it to him being just not very bright. One of my mates feels he is markedly autistic. Whatever it is, he has to be replaced and Everton should have bought a top quality replacement.

Joe McMahon
85 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:44:37
Jonathan, Autism isn't connected to as, you put it, being "not very bright".

Personally I just feel he is arrogant and isn't very good, not very likeable and not the keeper Big Nev claims he is. He gives no confidence to defenders for fans. The look Mina gave him on Saturday speaks volumes.

Karl Meighan
86 Posted 06/10/2020 at 11:49:03
Throw him in for the derby? sounds like another Glenn Keeley type of idea that. Stats? Please don't be fooled by them. All players make mistakes. In a keeper's world, he makes a mistake and, more times than not, it leads to a goal which is highlighted and noticed.

I'm quite sure we have midfielders who have lost or given the ball away that has lead to an attack for the opponents, you don't drop them when it happens. Defenders also make mistakes, it happens.

I would have been much more likely to give the understudy a chance last season but after 4 games? If it's still happening after 15 to 20 games, then it would seem necessary.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

87 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:13:06
ADHD... bipolar... autistic... feed him Ritalin... just plain thick.

Keep the Pickford debate to his abilities as a goalkeeper rather then pretending to be online medics and psychologists.

Big Nev still supporting him, saying he has had 3 bad minutes (if that) in six months.

Big Nev Defends Pickford

Can and should he do better? Absolutely.

Does he have enough pressure on him for his place if he performs badly? IMO, no. Lössl and Virginia don't provide that.

I know the grand sum of zero about our new recruit Olsen and the only YouTube video I've seen of him is the one provided by Frank Wade above. And in that there were some excellent saves.

My belief is Pickford's form will have to fall off a cliff or he gets injured before Olsen plays ahead of him and that Jordan will continue to be our Number 1 this season.

What Carlo and Marcel decide in the transfer window of 2021, based on Jordan's form, might be a different story.

Nicholas Ryan
88 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:15:20
Michael [40].

I agree with your basic point, that Pickford's problems are in the mind, rather than any lack of natural ability.

At risk of boring everybody, can I quote for the umpteenth time, and apply to Jordan Pickford, the words of the Australian cricket coach about Mark Ramprakash [a batsman of supreme ability who couldn't sort his head out]:

.... "A young man afflicted with talent..."!

Chris Williams
89 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:21:44
For what it is worth, according to Darren Griffiths and Ian Snodin on Everton Radio, Jordan is a lovely lad and very well liked around the club.

I'll take their word for it, over the opinions of his arrogance from people who may never have met him.

As to any issues of autism, I've got no ideas.

After years of watching Gordon West, I've got a high tolerance of mercurial goalkeepers. He got dropped several times for poor form, was suspect on crosses according to his manager, got sent off for thumping a centre-forward, giving away a penalty that cost us the match. He also got involved with the crowd, in altercations more than once. He is an Everton great in many eyes including mine, although he was playing in several great Everton teams for most of his career.

Jordan will hopefully experience something like that now. But, if his form continues to be erratic and he costs us points, I'm sure Carlo will drop him – and rightly so.

Jamie Crowley
90 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:38:10
Alan back @ 46 -

Thank God someone shares my concern about the economics of all this. Our squad is still bloated. I have no idea how we’re paying for all of this.

I’ll enjoy the ride, but man-oh-man do we need to get our financials in order! How are we solvent? Our wages to turnover is ridiculous, and it has to change.

Andrew Ellams
91 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:46:02
Jamie, we have shed Baines, Niasse, Schneiderlin, Martina, Stekelenburg, Sandro, 50% of Walcott and whatever PSG are paying from Kean's wages off the books. And if you add together the likes of Garbutt, Dowell etc, it all adds up.
Colin Battison
92 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:50:20
At least it might be a kick up the arse that Pickford needs, I just don't know whats happened to him. Even after the blunder for their first goal he flapped at an easy ball straight to their player instead of putting it away from the danger zone, and they should've scored.

It's when we're in a tight game that it's going to be an issue as it could be the difference. I think if we can get Joshua King in within the next 10 days as well, then what a window we would have had.

Mike Keating
93 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:54:34
Thanks Frank (#83),

I'm using Safari on an iPad, so that may explain the loss of the edit function.

Probably one for the webmaster during the international break while Pickford and Olsen try to impress for their respective countries.

Colin Battison
94 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:55:17
Danny Welbeck is a freebie, any takers?
Phil Greenough
95 Posted 06/10/2020 at 13:58:04
Jamie, we have sold or loaned out:

Luke Garbutt, Oumar Niasse, Cuco Martina, Morgan Schneiderlin, Leighton Baines, Maarten Stekelenburg, Kieran Dowell, Lewis Gibson, Moise Kean, Sandro and Walcott.

Also. FFP has been suspended, so gives Everton a chance to get their finances in better shape. By which time we can get Bolasie and a few others off our books.

James Morgan
96 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:23:04
It's astonishing that Neville Southall or anyone for that matter is backing Pickford still. He's not going through a bad couple of months, it's been 18 months! He simply isn't good enough, the same thing happened to Joe Hart and look at him now.

As for not costing us points? Ridiculous argument, that's only because the lads at the other end are doing the business! If we were to miss out on top four on goal difference because he's thrown five in, then it darn well matters!

Ray Roche
97 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:35:36
Colin, the medical staff are overworked as it is. We don't need another 2 goals a season sick note to give them even more work.
No thanks!
Paul Tran
98 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:37:27
This is a good case of hedging our bets, particularly concerning FFP. Carlo says to Pickford 'Show me consistency'. He says to Olsen 'Be ready to take your chance'. He says to Moshiri 'Give these two a season then maybe I'll tell you who I really want'.

I don't know anything about Olsen. I'll judge him on when I see him. I don't think we'll be waiting long. Pickford appears to me an honest, hard-working player with ability. He also makes too many basic unforced errors. That suggests to me that he can't sustain the level of competence we need. Whether his issues are technical/mental is one for the coaches.

All players at this level have ability. It's all about how consistently they're effective.

John McFarlane Snr
99 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:40:04
Hi Carl [55],

It saddens me that some supporters give certain Everton players stick based on performances, but what saddens me more, is that they are inclined to treat newcomers who have yet to wear the Everton strip, with scorn and derision.

I appreciate that we are all different in our approach to all things "Everton", but I will base my opinion on the new recruits when I next take up my position in the Park End, whenever that may be.

Andrew Ellams
100 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:42:53
I did read somewhere that the buy option on Olsen at the end of the season could be as low as €5M which means he could be here to stay next season whether Pickford gets his act together or not.
Brian Harrison
101 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:55:14
I think that goalkeeper is one of the most important players in the side, you don't see too many teams win the league with poor keepers.

Yes, they are all prone to making a mistake who isn't, but the very good ones usually make the fewest. Top keepers give their defenders confidence which usually makes the whole defensive unit more solid.

You have to wonder where this leaves Lössl as even Virginia played in the Caraboa Cup which is hardly great if you are supposed to be the backup keeper. I don't know why we didn't leave him on his loan spell with Huddersfield they seemed happy to have him and he seemed happy enough to stay there.

Maybe they might come back in for him in what's left of the window, as there appears to be no future in him staying with us.

Dave Abrahams
102 Posted 06/10/2020 at 14:59:38
Karl (86), playing Glenn Keeley in that Derby game was a massive mistake, Howard Kendall's actually. Keeley hadn't played a game that season, had been injured, he told Howard, I'm not match fit,I've hardly trained, Kendall told him he'd be okay.

Keeley took the rap, 35 minutes with Everton and that was that. He played hundreds of games for Blackburn, a very competent centre half and captain but Howard thought he knew best.

He got rid of Mickey Thomas later on because he demanded a game after being out for a couple of weeks. Kendall told him he wasn't match fit. Maybe he had learned from the Glenn Keeley affair.

Christy Ring
103 Posted 06/10/2020 at 15:24:47
Steve @32 Alan Kelly has 34 caps for Ireland, and vied for No 1 position with Packie Bonner, and later Shay Given. His dad also played in goal for Ireland, so he has plenty of experience as a coach, but to say he might not be up to the job, because of Pickford's errors? That's a lack of concentration.
Eric Myles
104 Posted 06/10/2020 at 15:32:48
Drew #77, glad someone understood what I was saying!!

Oi, Barry #71, Hartlepool are my second team!

Bobby Mallon
105 Posted 06/10/2020 at 15:38:04
Jamie Crowley 96. Paul the Esk has put on Twitter some figures and says well done Everton for a great transfer window; have a look.
Jay Harris
106 Posted 06/10/2020 at 15:38:31
I cant believe that some blues are giving the club stick for what has been a remarkable window.

Personally I was overjoyed at James, Allan and Doucoure (not to mention Nkoukou and Brandthwaite) and did not expect any more due to finances but we have brought in a top CB and GK cover as a bonus.

I think it is all part of a plan because no top class keeper was available and hopefully in the summer we might be in for Donarumma or at least that standard.

Steve Ferns
107 Posted 06/10/2020 at 15:41:10
Christy, he hasn't coached me, so I cannot critique him. I find it strange that Unsworth's mate who was brought in to help him for a caretaker stint is now our fulltime Goalkeeper coach 3 years later.

As I said originally, Carlo is no mug and if he's happy with him, then it's for good reason. But if Pickford is to be our number one and has suffered a prolonged crisis of form, then one of the cheaper things to try is replace the coach and see if someone else can get more out of Pickford, because for the last 9 months under Kelly, Pickford has gone markedly backwards.

It doesn't matter about the coaches playing credentials. But Alan Kelly was not a highly regarded coach, he got the gig at Everton because he was out of work at the time and was mates with Unsworth, not because he was a top coach. With Pickford in need of help, we should really go out and get the best coach we can. But again, Carlo is no mug.

Ryan Holroyd
108 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:05:46
Steve - how do you know Alan Kelly isn't a top coach?
Steve Ferns
109 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:07:23
I don't Ryan, as I say in the first sentence and in the original post. But does that mean we cannot ask the question?
Mike Gaynes
110 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:29:41
Danny #75, we don't need our season "turned around".

We've played 7, won 7. That's an "ideal world" to me.

I think changing keepers at this point -- especially to an untried newcomer who isn't exactly widely admired -- would be lunacy.

Martin Berry
111 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:31:00
He looks a big lad and hard to shoot past, his agility also looks good from the link from Frank #81 (thanks).

Also you have to back Carlo's judgement which along with Marcels has been rather good of late.

So let's give the lad a chance and a big welcome.

Iakovos Iasonidis
112 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:42:55
I know him well from when he played for PAOK. He was 3rd choice goalkeeper and we sent him on loan. If he was not good enough for PAOK, he sure is not good enough for Everton.

I wish him all the best, of course... some goalkeepers mature after 30. I truly hope he is one of them.

Tony Abrahams
113 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:45:09
Keep talking Steve F, I think some of the things you are saying on this thread make a lot of sense mate.

My mate, who was a decent non-league keeper, said he watched Karius getting warmed up by John Achteberg before the Champions League Final, and said he wasn't surprised the kid played so badly after witnessing something he described as a third rate workout, and this just before the biggest match of his life.

Rennie Smith
114 Posted 06/10/2020 at 16:51:47
Mike @110, completely agree. Can't believe some people are looking for Olsen to be thrown in for the derby and I still don't buy the hysteria over Pickford.

Jay@106, it's a sad fact. I may be underwhelmed by Olsen but I think we've had a fantastic window, bringing in serious players who have hit the ground running for relatively average sums.

Peter Jansson
115 Posted 06/10/2020 at 17:03:55
I have not followed the discussion here. But I have seen Olsen play a lot since I am Swedish.

Robin Olsen is better in Pickford in dominating the air around the goal on corners etc. He is also a very good shot-stopper. He is also, I think, better in positioning compared to Pickford, who is constantly out doing weird stuff.

Also Olsen is not doing so many freakshows as Pickford. He does not make as many blunders.

Pickford is supposed to be better on his feet, passing etc. However, personally, I think he is overrated at this as he is frequently misplacing passes. Also, he starts the game too often with long balls leading to absolutely nothing. This has improved since I believe that Ancelotti has told him to stop doing this too often as the only thing it leads to is to give away the ball.

Olsen does not fit in the profile of a modern goalkeeper that can pass like Allison, but neither do Pickford fit into this profile, as he makes too many mistakes.

Olsen can be a good option, especially against teams hoofing balls into our penalty area.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

116 Posted 06/10/2020 at 17:24:02
Thanks for that Peter. Valuable and appreciated insight from a native Swede who will have seen more of Olsen than possibly every other poster on TW.

Frank Wade's YouTube video on Olsen backs up a lot of what you say.

Derek Wadeson
117 Posted 06/10/2020 at 17:32:09
Great window for Everton, three first choices and three back up to take the squad forward.

Two things, from what we have been told Olsen commands his box by coming out and catching using his 6ft 5in frame. The goals that have been scored against Everton this season have either been Pickford errors or shots from outside the box and one set-piece corner. Not one of the outside the box shots was in the top unsaveable corner, so maybe a keeper with longer arms has entered Carlo's mind as well.

Up front losing Kean could be a blow if we have any injuries between now and the January window. By then Tosun will be back and Carlo may have two thoughts, use him as back up or sell him to raise funds for someone he really fancies.

Last season we took the centre back gamble and it paid off because Holgate stepped up to the plate, here's hoping the same happens up front this time.

Julian Wait
118 Posted 06/10/2020 at 17:36:14
Perhaps Milan will falter out of top reckoning (not at the fault of the keeper) and we can maybe pick up Donnarumma in January for $20m to close out the season.
Bill Griffiths
119 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:04:21
Steve, King may possibly look at as you say and I would be happy if we signed him.

I saw an article on the Red Echo site yesterday discussing our supposed interest in the Polish guy and Lorente. Their reporter indicated it was unlikely we were that interested and intimated Carlo and Brands would be happy to turn to Ellis Simms in an emergency.

When I went back to the article, it was somewhat changed and the bit about Simms removed.

Patrick McFarlane
120 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:09:41
It sounds to me that anyone who keeps goal for Everton is on a hiding to nothing, the requirements seem to be perfection.

Save every shot, never put it out for a throw-in, don't faff around at the back even if you've been instructed to do so by the management, claim every ball that gets launched into the area, if you can't claim it cleanly, ensure that the punch-out finds an Everton player in space and never ever, under any circumstances concede a goal.

Phew! I wonder where we'll find Mr Perfect? How much would he cost and which club would be fool enough to sell him?

Rob Halligan
121 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:16:57
Patrick (John), I'm ready and available and waiting for the call from Carlo!!
Andrew Ellams
122 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:24:08
I can't see Olsen getting into the team for the derby simply because he has no time to prove himself in training due to the international commitments.

After that, it's down to Pickford to get his act together.

John McFarlane Snr
123 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:31:04
Hi John, {aka Patrick} [120] if you're looking for Mr Perfect look no further than ToffeeWeb, there is more than one for every position. There have been many players [over the years] that I have considered not good enough to play for Everton, and that was all I ever said, "They're not good enough", and no matter how bad they were they were, they were a damn sight better than me.
Kevin Prytherch
124 Posted 06/10/2020 at 18:37:52
I wouldn't say we need Mr Perfect in goal. Nigel Martyn probably didn't make some of the saves that Pickford does, but he was solid and did what was expected.

That's all we want as fans, a keeper who makes the saves he should do, one that knows when to put their foot through the ball and one that come and claim a cross. Also, ideally, one that can communicate with the defence.

I'd say it's pretty standard things that we'd expect from a keeper.

Frank Crewe
125 Posted 06/10/2020 at 19:39:01
I'd play Olsen in the derby simply because they will play Van Dijk and we will need Olsen's height and muscle to counter him at corners and free kicks.
Gerry Clarke
126 Posted 06/10/2020 at 19:43:42
Agree with Andrew @122, Pickford will stay in place until his next fumble.
Steve Ferns
127 Posted 06/10/2020 at 19:46:52
Frank, Yerry Mina is taller.
Barry Rathbone
128 Posted 06/10/2020 at 19:53:05
With no supporters in the ground, the normal derby pressures don't apply... so take Pickford out and put this guy straight in.
Stephen Vincent
129 Posted 06/10/2020 at 20:42:39
I watched the YouTube link provided by Frank and Olsen looks really good but to be fair I could put together a similar show reel for Pickford.

What we need to know is can he do the simple things well? Can he catch a ball when under no pressure? Can he push the ball to safety rather than back into the danger area? Can he dominate his penalty area and not scare the shit out of his back four?

If he can do that as well as the spectacular stuff, then he will do for me.

Jack Convery
130 Posted 06/10/2020 at 20:43:46
If we are looking long term for a goalkeeper to have for at least the next 10 years, then we should look at Unai Simon at Athletic Bilbao. Likely to cost a fortune but would be worth it. He is only 23 too.

Any Basques out there want to agree with me?

Kevin Molloy
131 Posted 06/10/2020 at 20:46:26
We've had to put up with Oliver Hardy in goal these last 3 years, not any more.

I think we've found our Stan Laurel.

Paul Birmingham
132 Posted 06/10/2020 at 20:47:10
I reckon the England games assuming Jordan is picked could decide if he plays in the derby.

My hunch says Carlo, will play him but it will be his last chance to retain his place. The stakes are big and rightfully, we are trying to consolidate their position in the league.

But good competition is healthy, but I've not seen enough of Olsen to pass comment on his abilities.

I recall the 2018 World Cup game when Sweden played Germany, and I recall he made a few decent saves.

Perhaps the shadow looming will drive Jordon Pickford, to rake stock and refocus, and fight for his position.

Here's to an injury-free international window, and return to full fitness of our injured players.

Mike Gaynes
133 Posted 06/10/2020 at 20:59:53
Jack #130, I'm no Basque but he'd be at the very top of my list, along with Onana at Ajax and the Polish madman Dragowski at Fiorentina.
Robert Tressell
134 Posted 06/10/2020 at 21:18:40
Jack & Mike,

I find it hard to judge keepers. Lots of spectacular shot-stoppers - but very few with that commanding presence. And very few also with presence, agility and the ability to use their feet which is a vital part of the game for a big club now.

When they have this combination then games often go by without noticing them. I'll happily bow to your knowledge on Simon but will look out for him.

Bill Gienapp
135 Posted 06/10/2020 at 22:32:29
I have to say, Olsen gave a rather impressive interview on the Everton site:

Olsen: I have come to Everton to win

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

136 Posted 06/10/2020 at 22:42:08
Ex-England keeper Robert Green's take on the Olsen-Pickford scenario.

Why Olsen Signing is Good For Pickford

Sam Hoare
137 Posted 06/10/2020 at 22:44:35
Plenty of decent keepers out there to look at next summer:

Donnarruma
Unai Simon
Strakosha
Dragowski
Walter Benitez
Dean Henderson
Onana
Larsonneur
Nubel
Maignan
Casteels

And one who I think is very underrated and not oft-talked off is Dubravka. Maybe a bit old and prone to the odd howler but his shot-stopping was phenomenal last season.

Robert Tressell
138 Posted 06/10/2020 at 23:14:03
Sam - I've just been trawling Transfermarkt etc for similar. I don't think there's a shortage of candidates.

I wondered whether we might get Benitez over this summer because he was out of contract at Nice but re-signed.

That's a summer 2021 issue now though, pleasingly.

Don Alexander
139 Posted 06/10/2020 at 23:50:27
To me this lad, only off Youtube admittedly, looks like Jordan as a shot-stopper. He's also got 37 caps for Sweden, albeit with little competition for the shirt. He's also 6'-4", which in itself should be a challenge to Jordan and opposing ball-headers.

Interesting times!

Is Olsen to better Andy Rankin (a very good goalie in my opinion) as worthwhile competition to make Westy the legend we remember? Because those of who we there well recall Westy's wobbly moments in the late '60s. But by 1970 he was the equal of Banksy, and that's what we need now.

THE BEST!

Tony Cawson
140 Posted 07/10/2020 at 00:32:14
I don't know the answer, but Pickford is going to kill our season. Wherever we end up, add 10 points at least, before he starts with his unforced calamities.

Absolutely finished. What if's everywhere come May. He could have Maldini and Baresi in front of him. He would still kill off the unreal belief and start the lads have made. What a fucking shame.

Phil Smith
141 Posted 07/10/2020 at 00:32:21
Pickford was okay at the World Cup, let's not kid ourselves.

His distribution was good and was more focused (he always is for England) but this guy stood out for me. Commanding and steady.

Kieran Kinsella
142 Posted 07/10/2020 at 00:53:04
If he displaces Pickford, it will be like poor old Graham Taylor:

Swedes 2 Turnips 1

Derek Thomas
143 Posted 07/10/2020 at 01:31:47
Don @ 139; I agree, West was very secure in April 1970 when we won the league – But... for various reasons, was merely a shadow of his former self 6 months later vs Keflavik.

Flapping at crosses, giving V-signs to the crowd for moaning at his mistakes – totally lost the plot. Got dropped the next game – because we had a decent replacement.

And so would Pickford.

Jim Harrison
144 Posted 07/10/2020 at 03:49:39
Good article on BBC by Rob Green about this signing:

Robin Olsen signing good news for Jordan Pickford - Robert Green analysis

I think it shows that there is still a belief at the club that Pickford can turn it around but there was a need for a solid alternative. If there is no change by end of season he will be replaced.

Personally I have doubts he will recover his early form, but given the investment in midfield there are probably wasn't the money to do anything about it this year. Or a standout available alternative that we could actually sign.

Bob Parrington
145 Posted 07/10/2020 at 13:01:49
Here we are after 4 games top of the league without a point dropped... and yet so much negativity on this thread. What the fuck is going on???

There's a lot of 'talk it up' positivity going on within the club right now, which is what the club needs. I hope none of the players and staff read this thread because it is so full of negative comment, it is embarrassing.

Justin Doone
146 Posted 07/10/2020 at 17:22:12
Honestly they may not be better, but I would show Pickford he needs to up his game by dropping him for the derby. It's a big game and we are probably better going with a keeper who will command his box better.

I still think it was a mistake to play Pickford in the EFL Cup games, where he made a few mistakes and looked shakey.

It was the only time realistically to try out your number 2 in a competitive game. I know Virginia played the first game but why not keep him in for the 2nd?

Pickford needs to concentrate on the right here, right now, not be thinking about his next move, weather that be distribution or telling your team mates off.

This goes for looking at the ball when kicking it, not looking down the wing at who's available. His main 'additional attribute' of quick feet and excellent distribution is laughable. His kicking and decision making has got to improve.

This can also be said of all the defenders. Against Brighton we made it easy for them to press us in the second half with to many 5 yard backward passes. Where was the alarm bells and urgency to play the ball away from the danger area.

Brighton coughed up a few cheap balls that we took advantage of. We then returned the favour. Thankfully we had a 3 goal lead, but we have to be better than that. Keep the pressure off our back line as much as possible.

Steven Astley
147 Posted 07/10/2020 at 21:08:57
This article from last year not covering Olsen in any glory whatsoever!

Is it time for Roma to replace Robin Olsen?

Seems an odd signing on this basis... unless Carlo knows something nobody else does. Would be interested to know how much involvement he had.

Mark Andersson
148 Posted 08/10/2020 at 08:27:08
After watching the highlight reel, I think we should call him Olsen Parry.
John Keating
149 Posted 08/10/2020 at 08:57:58
Pickford will remain Number 1 until he actually loses us points this season; only then I think will Ancelotti look at dropping him. While the team outscore opponents or we draw or lode on merit Pickford will play.

However, if Pickford continues as he is and money is available next season, I can see him going. Hopefully he reads between the lines why his England job is on the line.

Derek Taylor
150 Posted 09/10/2020 at 18:21:16
Even in the joy of the team doing well, Evertonians have to have a player to moan about. It used to be Osman, then Hibbert until Howard and Barkley had to be chased out. Now it's Pickford who gets the treatment.

Sad to say, so many 'loyalists' don't deserve to have a top table team EVER!

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