Iwobi scored the opener after just five minutes and doubled his personal tally in the 27th minute to make it 3-0 while the Everton-linked Samuel Chukwueze added a fourth with just 29 minutes gone.
Sierra Leone pulled one back in the 41st minute to give themselves a chance going into the half-time interval and went on to score three times in the final 20 minutes to earn a 4-4 draw in Africa Cup of Nations qualifying.
Meanwhile, James Rodriguez and Yerry Mina both played the full 90 minutes of Colombia's CONMEBOL region World Cup qualifier against Uruguay who scored in the fifth minute through Edinson Cavani.
Mina collected a booking after 20 minutes and the hosts would fall further behind in the second half when Jeison Murillo fouled Rodrigo Bentancur in the box and Luis Suarez converted from the spot to make it 2-0.
Darwin Nuñez effectively put the contest beyond Los Cafeteros with 17 minutes to go when he fired in Uruguay's third and Mina picked up his second yellow in stoppage time.
Later, Richarlison played 75 minutes and Allan the whole game as Brazil edged Venezuela 1-0.
Elsewhere, Tom Davies was an unused substitute for England U21s' Euro qualifier against Andorra. Ben Godfrey was absent from the matchday squad.
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2 Posted 13/11/2020 at 19:52:48
3 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:00:38
4 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:00:47
5 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:01:59
6 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:07:44
It's the same with Gomes and Sigurdsson to be fair. Even Kean.
Seems they can't handle the pressure of expectation to play for Everton.
7 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:17:51
We overpaid for him (not his fault) but that price tag and the knowledge that he has to justify it may well be a reason for his below-par performances. Trying too hard.
8 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:18:03
I'd agree with that, Dave, because, off the top of my head, Graham Stuart and Kevin Campbell are the only two cockneys that I can remember settling at Everton.
9 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:27:52
Tony Cottee perhaps?
10 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:31:20
I remember when I used to play, I found it very easy to go past opposing players, but only if I played inside, because whenever I played out wide, I never had the same desire to beat players, and because I lacked pace, it used to make me want to come inside, and I do see something similar whenever I watch Iwobi play.
11 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:35:21
It was probably the biggest club match of his whole career and he couldn't get going? I could never understand that...
12 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:44:49
13 Posted 13/11/2020 at 20:57:14
14 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:00:38
I fucking hope so...
15 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:14:46
16 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:18:02
And Psycho Pat has always been one of us deep down, Alan!
17 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:25:49
I really hope Allan and Richarlison are available for Fulham.
18 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:25:57
19 Posted 13/11/2020 at 21:43:50
20 Posted 13/11/2020 at 22:55:47
21 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:03:12
22 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:09:12
Non-attacking, non-goalscoring Number 10? Give us a clue.
He's a £28 million, £60,000 a week, 10-minute sub when we're getting beat – that's what he is.
23 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:17:20
To me, he seems to play much better on the right and either coming inside or more often attacking the full-back and whipping a cross in. He's been a bit better of late and maybe the message is getting through to him.
Against Southampton, I was swearing at the TV that he refused to back himself when going forward to get the final ball into the box. Always stalling and choosing the easy safe ball back to a midfielder. He was on the left that day and looked very poor. He seems way more confident on the right and I haven't totally given up hope on him.
24 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:22:04
I understand that dithering Dave Moyes was such a ditherer because a big factor for him was a player's character. That was arguably more important to him than straight-out ability.
I know not all of his signings worked out (Shandy Andy, Per Krøldrup, Royston Drenthe for example) but you can see a clear identikit through:
Proper self-belief, proper character, proper desire to be the best that they can be.
I'm not sure many of our current lot have that same feeling/mentality.
25 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:34:07
The impression I get (and it's just my personal feeling) is that he seems to enjoy the "easier" side of the game but lacks that last x% that's required to be an effective player at or near the top.
26 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:47:07
I wish Carlo would try him as the most forward of the middle 3. He's our most progressive passer and is a much better ball carrier than Sigurdsson or Gomes. He may not offer a huge amount defensively but then neither do Gomes or Sigurdsson.
We overpaid for Iwobi without a doubt but I'm convinced there's a decent player in there, just lacks the confidence. And the chance to play more centrally.
27 Posted 13/11/2020 at 23:55:46
I agree with a lot on here, he seems to panick a little and rush himself when playing for Everton.
28 Posted 13/11/2020 at 00:08:46
What a waste. At the time, we needed a left footed right winger with pace and end product. Could have picked up some excellent players for that £28m.
29 Posted 14/11/2020 at 00:31:45
30 Posted 14/11/2020 at 00:45:38
I'm with you on that.
31 Posted 14/11/2020 at 01:08:56
Up to now, in both instances, they're prolific failures in the (un)real world of the Premier League.
I blame the players, not the management.
32 Posted 14/11/2020 at 03:12:13
33 Posted 14/11/2020 at 03:18:22
Yeah, we overpaid but I'd have him over the some of the other players we wasted money on like Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Walcott, Tosun and Sigurdsson. The lad can still improve and is also a victim of not having a fixed position. That probably lies more with managers as he has said before he sees himself more of a No 10 type player. He has shown in this game and other occasions for Nigeria that he can play centrally. He needs to be given the chance playing there with us until we can bring in a player like Isco, or another player who is an upgrade on what we currently have.
34 Posted 14/11/2020 at 03:41:21
Gomes, Sigurdsson, Doucoure, Bernard, Davies nowhere near that. Balance his errors with his contributions and do the same to the rest. Hes miles better and productive than that lot. Yet he gets slaughtered in comparison.
Theres a clear bias for sure.
35 Posted 14/11/2020 at 05:05:25
Maybe therein lies the clue: the rest of the season he should be played as an impact substitute, when the opposition players have tired, giving him more time and room to play and slowly become a more useful player for us.
When Lukaku was on loan at West Brom, the season before he came to Everton, he scored a bulk of his goals from the bench, and that made him ready for us.
Having said that, I would ask Carlo to give Tom Davies more playing time. If Tom had been given as many chances as Iwobi has had this season, I am pretty sure the outcome would have been better.
36 Posted 14/11/2020 at 06:50:35
That's very interesting, JP, he's been involved in the making or scoring of 8 assists already this season, which is no mean feat, but I think a lot of the flack is because of how Brian W, describes Iwobi@25.
Does he have it in himself to roll up his sleeves and fight, or will he always lack confidence when the going gets tough? This is the conundrum because Iwobi has definitely got enough talent.
37 Posted 14/11/2020 at 08:15:35
Iwobi has all of the tools but leaves a couple of them in the van.
38 Posted 14/11/2020 at 08:35:47
We should concentrate on finding wingers with pace who can add goals. The amount of money Everton have wasted on these players and their wages has been truely enormous.
Iwobi is just the latest import, he's not mentally tough enough to be a success, something you could say about all our Number 10s covering the last three managers. One player doesn't make a team, our failings are much deeper-rooted than just the No 10 position which seems to attract the most attention.
39 Posted 14/11/2020 at 08:55:20
40 Posted 14/11/2020 at 09:02:46
I want him to succeed; I am in the "he's gash" camp currently, certainly not the player who I watched tear up a Europa League Final, albeit the only person in the Arsenal team who did on the night.
41 Posted 14/11/2020 at 09:17:06
Memphis Depay – now there's a player. Out of contract at the end of the season too. The player we should have bought the year we signed Bolasie...
42 Posted 14/11/2020 at 09:57:30
Yep, 5-year contract and £120 grand a week coming right up – Not!
Well, I hope not...
43 Posted 14/11/2020 at 10:06:37
He has matured as a player and person since then, he was too young when he went to Utd. He has been at Lyon a long time, the manager was quoted last season talking up his maturity and leadership qualities (which I admit surprised me at the time). His goal scoring record in France has been superb for a winger. Koeman loves him and it wouldn't surprise me to see him go to Barca.
Yes, Rob, he is out of contract soon and will likely be moving on in Jan, we will have to show real desire to get him as there will be lots of suitors as he is available for a knockdown fee.
44 Posted 14/11/2020 at 10:42:27
End product and flair. Not many in his class.
45 Posted 14/11/2020 at 10:55:53
Ed @4, where did they play him tonight?
46 Posted 14/11/2020 at 12:05:43
Robert 45 - that made me spit my tea out ;)
47 Posted 14/11/2020 at 12:33:22
48 Posted 14/11/2020 at 13:13:29
On another note, just saw the highlights of the Brazil - Venezuela game. Both Richarlison and Allan were heavily involved. Allan was playing much further ahead than he does for Everton, but that must be because Brazil were quite dominant.
49 Posted 14/11/2020 at 13:37:10
In the absence of Neymar coach Tite did something he has never done before when playing Firmino and Richarlison in the same team: playing Richy rather than Firmino in the nominal #9 position. I say nominal because with Brazil it is a more roving role than a traditional British #9.
Now Richy scored a disallowed goal after about 10 minutes after Firmino had fluffed the chance to score, but it was ruled out for one of those VAR armpit offsides by the wide man who crossed the ball.
This was a pity on many levels. It would have given Richy a lift and an early goal would have forced Venezuela to abandon their borefest game-long tactic: sit deep with all eleven players between the ball and their goal.
Richy saw very little of the ball as a result and at half-time Tite switched back to the familiar. Firmino more central, Richy wide right. Still Richy was very peripheral. I would go as far as to say this was his poorest performance ever in a Brazilian shirt. He was unsurprisingly hooked for Pedro on 76 minutes.
Allan had a fine game, playing EXACTLY as he does for Everton, mostly in that band across the pitch just either side of the centre circle. Because of Venezuela's deep-defensive tactics, yes, he spent more time than normal in their half. As ever, he was tidy in all he did. Brazil's 'get out' ball transitioning from defence to attack.
Villa's Douglas - who I like a lot - was woeful and was hooked at half-time for Paqueta. Brazil eventually won with a tap-in for Firmino, but it was not an easy watch.
Brazil play Colombia's conquerers of last night, Uruguay, mid-week away. Uruguay will be more open than Venezuela, but it is going to be Brazil's hardest game of this World Cup qualifying campaign to date.
Based on last night's performance, I would not be surprised to see Richy cut from the starting XI.
50 Posted 14/11/2020 at 14:14:22
51 Posted 14/11/2020 at 14:20:47
52 Posted 14/11/2020 at 14:23:43
He's certainly not been good enough all round this season, or last, and I'm not sure there's room for him in the formation Carlo wants to play but there's worse culprits getting paid more money for sure.
53 Posted 14/11/2020 at 14:58:21
54 Posted 14/11/2020 at 16:11:24
55 Posted 14/11/2020 at 16:31:10
The Nigerians had umpteen chances to grab the killer fifth (!) goal as well but ultimately didn't. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a team go down four goals and still come away with a point. Remarkable.
56 Posted 14/11/2020 at 17:28:16
If we're moving Rodriguez inside, as we should, then it's between Gordon and Iwobi on the right (unless we swap Richarlison which I would not do). I'd go with Gordon first of all but, if he doesn't produce, I'd be happy to give Iwobi a proper run.
57 Posted 14/11/2020 at 17:39:14
Gomes was asked to play virtually on the wing in that stupid formation at Southampton. We've all seen him in his best position and, in my opinion, he's a class player.
58 Posted 14/11/2020 at 17:44:55
59 Posted 14/11/2020 at 17:50:30
We have a few players that make a difference and want to win matches. Players that leave it all out on the pitch, players that want to win. Unfortunately Iwobi isn't one of them.
Watching Scotland and Northern Ireland the other night in must-win games was refreshing as players showed passion, desire and a pride playing for their country. If Nigeria had the same type of play-off game, would Iwobi be leading from the front? I very much doubt it from what I have seen a blue shirt.
60 Posted 14/11/2020 at 18:24:57
Carlo thinks Iwobi doesn't produce enough at No 10, so Iwobi has to adapt to another position and keep improving.
Main problems to solve in the summer transfer window are a top international right-back to challenge Seamus, and a Number 10 that is top notch. Not expecting the new Kaka or Messi, but someone decent.
I think Iwobi will stay for a while, as a top Number 10 makes every winger look better. A walking Number 10 makes every isolated winger look terrible.
We just need top 4 quality from now on, no more squad fillers.
61 Posted 14/11/2020 at 18:34:09
That's not unusual for many such players who come and go at Everton. Just seen a rerun of an old Everton-Arsenal game from way back when and Arsenal thrashed us. We had some underachievers in that line-up. Anyone remember Hutchinson or Madar?
Talking of failures, I see today Hallam Hope scored and also James Vaughan who, by the way, has been with 17 clubs up to now. I suppose they are both at the level they belong after being so promising in their younger days at Goodison.
62 Posted 14/11/2020 at 19:04:10
I don't know why we bought him, what he offers, where he's supposed to play or what he can do.
Looks to me like he's on the list of players Carlo doesn't trust, but has to play at least some of the time.
Hope he comes good, but wouldn't put my hard-earned on it.
63 Posted 14/11/2020 at 19:10:53
The fate of an Evertonian is always having to look forward to the future and only rarely to be able to enjoy the present. I suspect we've had all the enjoyment we'll get this season!
64 Posted 14/11/2020 at 19:36:30
Absolutely nowt to worry about. All good here. All very mundane as to why I haven't posted much in recent days.
You know the back story of my missus and CV-19 in Brazil. She is now officially the only one in her hospital team of 28 NOT to get the virus. A measure of just how careful she is, given the environment she works in.
We promised ourselves months ago that once this is all over we are going out, socialising more. Theatre. Cinema. Live music. Exhibitions. Cultural events. Good eating. We're still waiting.
But a couple of days before the United game, we had one of those telephathic moments couples share. Whilst I was at home and she at work, independently on the same day the same thought came to us to talk to the other about that evening: let's go somewhere at the weekend.
And we did. The United game KO 9.30am my time Saturday morning, the same time she is scheduled to go to the gym. Her workout and our game finished around the same time and within a couple of hours we headed across the mighty Amazon River to a nearby island.
The wooden launch put-putted up a narrow creek with overhanging trees and in 20 minutes we had left behind the sight, sounds and smells of our city and its 4 million population.
In no time we were swinging in hammocks, surrounded only by the contrasting greens of the forest, the occassional flash of colour and birdsong of exotic feathered beasts. No wifi. No TV. All good therapy.
This, of course, was in the middle of the protracted US elections which, I admit, has been far more fascinating viewing and a much, MUCH bigger game than anything Everton has undertaken in recent weeks.
I've taken up my free time writing to family and friends all around the world on the US elections, leaving me little or no time for TW (which I've skimmed briefly, but not found too much of interest to engage in, to be frank).
I'll be back on TW more regularly to annoy people once things settle down again. But thanks again for asking Dave. Hope things are all good with you and yours, given what Liverpool has been living through in recent weeks.
65 Posted 14/11/2020 at 19:45:09
The same goes for coaches and managers – they can't possibly all be crap!
ps: Don't give me Chairman Kenwright – he needs it to come good as much as the rest of us!
66 Posted 14/11/2020 at 19:52:32
Thanks for replying and I you two get to have more weekends together, like that one, in the near future.
67 Posted 14/11/2020 at 23:34:35
My birthday today – I'm 62, healthy and happy, loving life. Just had a great meal with the family with loads of good (Spanish) wine – waiting for the (much younger than me) missus to join me in bed...
Ffs, Blues make me delirious!
68 Posted 14/11/2020 at 23:49:27
Alex Iwobi is probably a nice decent guy but, when he played for Arsenal I always wanted him to come on (he was usually on the bench, no wonder) because, if he did, he messed their game and always missed even the easiest chances.
He does not know when to pass, how to move or when to shoot. He can't make correct decisions in the game. So, what's the use?
Sell him in January? No club will ever pay anything for him. He will be in the 23's for the rest of his miserable contract until some Turkish team wants to take him by paying half his wages.
69 Posted 14/11/2020 at 00:04:39
Post of the day.
70 Posted 15/11/2020 at 06:30:10
He obviously doesn't read TW. :-) Only joking mate, glad you enjoyed your 'soiree romantique' and a chance to appreciate the quieter side of life in these troubled Covid times.
71 Posted 15/11/2020 at 08:35:58
At times last game, he put in decent crosses and made some useful runs but start him in a game and you never get 90 minutes out of him and he will always either shit-out of a tackle or get caught on the ball giving possession away when everyone is up in their half.
It could be a lack of confidence but, if he comes back from international duty with a brace of goals, surely he will be feeling confident?
I think he has some potential but I really can't see him fulfilling it.
72 Posted 15/11/2020 at 10:25:09
Apart from Digne and Richarlison, Silva's other signings of Gomes, Bernard, Mina, Kean and Iwobi have been very poor value for the huge amounts paid out in fees and salaries, what an expensive mistake Silva's short career turned out to be.
73 Posted 15/11/2020 at 12:05:27
The loan deal may well be to give him half a season of football elsewhere to get him up and running for next season.
74 Posted 15/11/2020 at 12:54:16
Most of the very best attacking players are hugely committed when it comes to keeping the ball; the idea of someone taking it from them makes them grit their teeth and work hard to come out victorious. Raheem Sterling is always prepared to battle to retain possession of the ball. Iwobi must have 4 inches and at least a stone over Sterling, but if they were to tussle for a 50/50 then I have little doubt that Sterling would emerge with the ball more often than not. Until Iwobi starts to truly develop some of the less aesthetic parts of being a professional footballer then I'm afraid he'll always be a bit-part player at the top level.
75 Posted 15/11/2020 at 13:18:22
Whatever, he has been a disastrous signing and those injuries he has sustained have virtually written him off being a premiership player barring, a miracle.
76 Posted 15/11/2020 at 14:10:07
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78 Posted 15/11/2020 at 15:34:04
79 Posted 15/11/2020 at 15:46:25
81 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:20:38
82 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:22:12
83 Posted 15/11/2020 at 16:37:01
85 Posted 16/11/2020 at 10:40:52
Not top quality nor good enough of a team player to warrant a start. He's got some talent but his reading of the situation and poor decision making left him down.
86 Posted 16/11/2020 at 23:03:33
87 Posted 17/11/2020 at 19:27:50
88 Posted 17/11/2020 at 20:16:29
He has tried everything to get the best out of him but ,like other managers before him, he can't seem to make the penny drop. Every good game is preceded by a Weston... Can't learn. Won't learn.
It would appear you can take Big Yerry to water, but you can't make him think.
89 Posted 22/11/2020 at 09:02:56
90 Posted 22/11/2020 at 09:10:36
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