Warnock unloads in frustration at Branthwaite

What made me chuckle was Tony Mowbray saying he seen Branthwaite with his top off – he's a skinny beanpole of a kid, you could blow him over 😂😂.

I watched the game; he played well, started slowly, grew into the game very well.

It was a very awkward looking attempt at clearing the ball.

In the Premier League, that’s a red card and penalty all day.

Branthwaite is very raw and Mowbray's comments underline why this loan is the right decision for the lad’s development.

I understand Warnock's frustrations but he should be directing them towards the officials. This could have been a lot more serious for the Middlesbrough player.

Warnock, though a bit of a tosser, was absolutely right about this one. Very dangerous, clumsy. Red and penalty should have followed.

They are about to witch hunt another Everton player on Talksport. As was said above, Warnock should have directed his tirade at the officials. I hope Branthwaite told him to fuck off.

Is this the same Warnock who goaded his Sheffield United players to get themselves sent off against WBA in order to get a game abandoned? Having had several players sent off for violent conduct, sought to nullify the game as SUFC were already 0-3 down.

West Bromwich Albion manager Gary Megson stated after the match, "There will be no replay. If we are called back to Bramall Lane we shall kick-off and then walk off the pitch. I've been in professional football since 16 and I'm 42 now. I've never ever witnessed anything as disgraceful as that. There is no place for that in any game of football, let alone professional football."

Kettle, pots, black. mmmmm

Well said Trevor

Apparently he strode on the pitch to tell Jarrad he should be ashamed of himself after the challenge. It was a poorly time challenge, but he is an 18 year old kid and that tool Warnock should know better.

One would like to think that Warnock's ill advised actions did not go unchallenged by the Blackburn manager along the lines of " if you've an effing problem with one of my players you see ME about it ".
Cant believe he is allowed to get away with this. Hope Everton are investigating this.

Warnock, like a lot of managers, needs to minimise what emanates from his gob. Too many managers talk too much, which would be fine if they didn’t spout drivel. Perhaps Warnock can mentor himself to have more style by viewing some Carlo Ancelotti press conferences. That’s the style managers should have, a professional one.

Calling out an 18 year old by saying “he outta be ashamed” is pretty shameful imo.

Tony

I read Tony Mowbray saying he wasnt aware of what had gone on, well I am sure knowing Warnock he would have been voicing his opinion to Mowbray during the game. So when the game finished he must have noticed Warnock making a beeline for young Branthwaite, so why didnt he run over to protect his player or if he didnt want to get involved he should have told one of his coaches to stop Warnock getting to Branthwaite.

Also you have to ask about the senior Blackburn players not stepping in to support Branthwaite.

I remember Warnock as a player, a winger. He was a coward on the field and his shenanigans as outlined by Trevor, above, mark him out as two-faced and snide. Rise above it Jarrad.

Anyone who looks like Margaret Thatcher, must be a snide, Don, but like Brian, I was also surprised that the Blackburn bench never looked after Branthwaite, a bit better

Remember a pre match tv interview with David Jones as he was preparing the side he managed to play a Warnock side.

Interviewer
"Are you concious of the mind games and chat Neil gives to opposing managers during a game."

Jones
" He doesnt do that with me"

Interviewer
"Why is that"

Jones
" Because he knows I will punch him if he does"

Bluffer of the highest order Mr Warnock

Unfortunate things happen on football fields — ask VVD. It was dangerous but never deliberate; in other words, an accident.

We should not let this drop. If Blackburn won't complain then we should. Appalled that, seemingly, no-one went to offer support to the lad when Warnock confronted him.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the challenge, it is not for an opposing manager to take that upon himself in that way. I'm bloody livid about this...

Never noticed it before Tony, but there is deffo a look of Thatcher about him.

Mind you, just seen the incident. Young Jarrad was a little err...

On the whole, I don't mind Warnock, was good for Cardiff and the turnaround he did at Rotherham after the train wrek that Alan Stubbs left was one of the biggest turnarounds I've seen in such a short period of time.

Nothing to worry about. Branthwaite will be a very fine player. Warnock is a gobshite hack.

Tony, can't disagree with that. Imagine if we have Branthwaite benefitting from a loan period, ditto Simms, Godfrey progressing further, Onyango and Small developing in the U23s, Carlo bringing it all together. Allied to the big names Carlo has brought in and might still bring in during the next window or two.

Yes, Brent, I'm very confident that Branthwaite will flourish and I think Mowbray will be privately speaking to him to manage him through this nonsense. The young fella will learn a lot at Blackburn.

I don't know enough about Small but I like the look of Onyango, he has something about him on the few occasions I've seen him play.

Alan @21

What exactly are we going to do about it?

A manager said a mean thing to one of our players... that isn't currently at our club.

You should hear some of the things players say to referees!

Not seen the incident but this is what loans are about. Learning every day on and off the field.

Wouldn't bother me what anyone said. Simply apologise for a strong challenge that may have accidentally caused an injury, learn from it and move on.

Take the high road, be the better man or at least appear to be. There's a lot more still to learn, no point in getting wound up or involved in anything else.

Pickford got it right with Van Dijk. Concentrate on the game without letting it distract you. Next day say sorry, learn and move on.

Let's go easy on Warnock. He almost took Bolasie off our hands last summer and may try again now.

There are many things he will have to experience in football, abuse from managers the likes of 'Colin', is just one of them.

Never saw the incident so I can't comment on it, except to say that Warnock should have complained to the Blackburn coaches not a young boy starting his career.

As an ex Everton player once said to me: “Warnock is one of the most disliked people in football.” He said it a bit more cruder than that though.

Storm in a teacup. I just watched the incident, and Branthwaite is looking at the ball the whole time – it's totally accidental as the guy is on his blindside. Football is a contact sport and sometimes people get kicked. Nothing to see here.

Dave. I am in total agreement. Imagine, decades ago, if a young Paul Scholes had been loaned out.

Now he's never been famous for timing his tackles, and suppose he clattered one of Warnock’s lads and Warnock went on the pitch to have a go. SAF would have crucified him.

Here is the incident on video:

Branthwaite Incident

As James Marshall said, a total accident that you get every weekend. Very clearly:

* Jarrad only has eyes for the flight of the ball the whole time
* Two players - the other Blackburn centre back and a 'Boro player - come together on his blindside. Jarrad could just have easily caught his own player as the 'Boro player
* Initially, everyone is very matter-of-fact about it. Everyone jogs away. Jarrad oblivious to what he has done
* The injured 'Boro player then realises he has a problem and the medics come on
* Two Blackburn players approach the injured player to see if he is OK. One of them is Jarrad
* There is absolutely NO mobbing of the referee or Jarrad by irate Blackburn players
* The ref consults the VAR officials and no further action - neither penalty nor card of any colour - is awarded
* The game goes on

Personally, even though it was a complete unintentional accident, I still think Jarrad is a lucky boy. Raising the boot so high and catching the player as he does can still be constituted as dangerous play and a penalty and red card could easily have followed.

I didn't watch the game so have no idea how he played following the incident, but my first instinct was 'he is one really cool dude to simply walk away as he does following the coming together'.

First time I have seen it.

Should he have went for the header?

Bizarre decision really. I thought it had to be a penalty and a yellow card. Sounds like Warnock misplaced his frustration as it was clearly an accident. Referees award penalties, fella.

I honestly can't remember the standard of officiating being this uniformly dismal. This incident is just another example.

Jay (34), it’s also the first time I have seen the incident, his boot is very high up and although no intent is meant, he is very lucky not to walk for that attempted clearance, IMO.

Thomas (35) spoken like a great defence barrister!!

Dave,

I rest my case, m'lord!

Thomas, the only problem is it's not actually that high for Branthwaite and his foot is still marginally travelling upwards when it meets the attackers face, so it's one of those split second decision things. He could have probably easily got enough on the ball to make an effective clearance, so that's his first instance.

It's a penalty as it's a high foot and so an illegal challenge but I'd say only a yellow as there is no jump or lunge towards a player he can clearly see coming to attack the ball.

For me, it's the overhead attempts that are really the reckless ones and it is double standards being applied to this challenge purely because the attacker gets a nasty facial injury.

Si,

It’s high enough to boot him in the face mate.

Thomas, I said it’s not that high for Branthwaite cause you asked about him heading it.

I know you did, Si.

Frey is a 6-ft 4-in centre-half. He was stooping slightly so the connection is not the full 6'-4". It's around the 6-foot mark though.

I reckon Jarrad was caught flat/footed. One step firwards and it's a free header for him.

All part of the learning curve for a player, in my opinion, who will be top class.

Bit of a wild swing from Branthwaite, definite penalty and probably just a yellow. It's unfortunate that the lad ended up with a cut below the eye, but there was no malice there, so no need for Warnock to get his tits in a twist.

Poor challenge though from Jarred – a bit like the penalty Davies gave away a few weeks back when he took a swing at the ball not realising there was a player in the way.

These things happen, but it's a good example of why young defenders should go out on a couple of lower league loans – so they can make their mistakes there and hopefully learn from them.

This is why a loan makes sense. He's only just turned 18. He stuck his leg up a bit high in the box while blind to the attacker. No malice obviously. We've all seen similar plenty of times - but rarely from top class defenders. Just a bit of learning for him in terms of defensive duties and in managing arseholes like Warnock (albeit I can't help but admire what he manages to achieve with crap players).

A slow day for TW posts so here's a YouTube piece (again - probs seen it before) with a guy superbly and hilariously taking off Rooney, Rodgers, Carragher, Stevie G, etc.
Link

It is a slow day Brent

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Inside the room you will find your husband sitting in a chair Kill him!!'

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The woman came out with tears in her eyes, 'I tried, But I can't kill my husband. ' The agent said, 'You don't have what it takes. Take your husband and go home.'

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'This gun is loaded with blanks' he said. 'I had to kill her with the fucking chair!'

I seem to remember Warnock slagging off Barkley when he was loaned to what was then Big Mouth's Leeds United !

Yep, this was reckless and should have been a penalty and a yellow for Jarrad, but under the current "double jeopardy" rules, not a red. Current guidance is that a penalty and a red would be paired only if the challenge is deliberate or malicious, which it clearly wasn't.

Out in the middle of the pitch, a red can be given for recklessness, and might well have been.