Ronald Koeman has been relieved from his managerial duties with Barcelona, following a poor start to the 2021-22 season, after only 14 months in the high-profile job at the Nou Camp.
It came as something of a surprise when Koeman resigned his post as head of the Dutch national team to take the prestigious job in La Ligue. He had agreed a 4½-year contract to manage his country's stars through to the 2022 World Cup a few months after being sacked from his job as Everton manager in October 2017.
But when the opportunity of managing Barcelona came up – the club where he'd spent arguably his best years as a player – he could not say no to his 'dream job'.
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1 Posted 27/10/2021 at 23:33:00
2 Posted 27/10/2021 at 23:36:39
3 Posted 27/10/2021 at 23:37:49
4 Posted 28/10/2021 at 00:22:44
Xavi is in line to replace him.
5 Posted 28/10/2021 at 00:34:47
6 Posted 28/10/2021 at 01:08:31
Maybe more universal next time Mr Gaynes - "suitcases were already in a taxi cab with the meter running" perhaps?
It certainly seems that second season is the back breaker for Senor Koeman. To continue the luggage theme, his teams fall apart in year two like a three dollar suitcase. Adios hombre, but think of the positives. More time to work on the short game.
I wish my Spanish was better. I'd love to know if there's a Barcelona equivalent of these pages, and if somewhere a fan is documenting how it was Joan Laporta undermining Rotten Ronny the entire time. I'd be willing to bet quite a lot there is.
Some mysteries are too profound to solve in our lifetimes. But the "Koeman is pants" case, I do think we've gotten her over the line.
7 Posted 28/10/2021 at 09:27:50
Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce, Silva, Ancelotti, Benitez...
Koeman's uniquely disinterested stance and preference for golfing will never be forgotten. But what a Rogue's Gallery we are assembling. I didn't realize in checking the list that Silva was out of a job for 18 months after leaving us before he took the reigns at Fulham.
8 Posted 28/10/2021 at 09:47:19
9 Posted 28/10/2021 at 10:07:05
From your Merseyside Police Identification Parade of Everton suspects (former managers), if I put the football aside, the only 2 who emerge with respect and dignity for me are Martinez and Silva. Think I've said it all before, but my view on all of them:
Martinez: Extremely nervous. I thought it was a mistake waiting to happen. He proved me wrong and what a season. Then he started to prove my initial nervousness right. Unfortunately. I ended up being a staunch defender ironically, hoping he was going to get back to those ways.
Koeman: Hands up. I got hoodwinked by 1980s Danny's view of Koeman the player. Alarm bells going when he seemed to hesitate. He clearly didn't want to be here. The disjointedness of transfers and when a lot of the damage was done that we're still cleaning up, happened on his watch. I try not to let my view of him as a manager tarnish the player I watched as a kid. Fantastic centre back with one of the most fearsome bullet like shots you'll ever see.
Allardyce: A part of me died typing that. He was actually our manager? Did it really happen?
Silva: See Martinez. More than nervous this time. He got Hull relegated and we'd been here before, but we're going back for more? That said, brief optimism for half a season when we seemed to be flying. But like many, only had one way to play and when it didn't work, folded his arms and stood watching.
Ancelotti: So hopeful for this one. We got a big name. A past winner who could put us on the map. Those voices who called out that he would struggle to manage non-top players proved right, although we got agonisingly close to Europe, which could have changed things. Bolted as soon as that collapsed, Real came calling and presumably he could see the FFP shit show that was coming. Disappointed is an understatement. I'd go as far to call it unprofessional, but that's with my Everton glasses on.
Benitez: More of the same in terms of big name and past winner. But ironically more suited to the job at Everton? Nervous and uncomfortable with this one, but as with all the above, I'll support him as I did them.
Exception being Allardyce. I just couldn't and focussed on the team. I couldn't look at the dugout.
10 Posted 28/10/2021 at 10:16:48
11 Posted 28/10/2021 at 10:44:23
I think I read that when Koeman was sacked that there was a clause in his contract that EFC would continue to pay his wages until he took up another full-time managerial position. His managing the Dutch team didn't count as full-time and he continued to be paid.
I hope that I have this completely and utterly wrong.
12 Posted 28/10/2021 at 11:25:02
After listening to Roberto's bullshit I wanted Koeman for the blues as his straight talking gave the impression of a disciplinarian. It was just arrogance.
Alarm bells rang more or less straight away with the random scattergun approach plus his dedication to the golf course.
13 Posted 28/10/2021 at 11:31:33
I try not to be vindictive but from the moment this clown put his holiday before turning up here the odour of rank misjudgement enveloped him.
I can put up with things not working out if employees take the club seriously - Martinez, Allardyce, Silva - all looked interested Koeman never did. Carlo pretended to and in fairness Moyes did initially but in the end was as shifty as Carlo.
Up yours, Ronnie, you utter fraud.
14 Posted 28/10/2021 at 11:41:15
I'm guessing he will get 3 years of his contract paid to him for doing nothing. Just like he got from that team Everton.
What a team Barca had not so long ago. One of, if not, the best l have ever seen. They were that good that Guardiola only played with one centre-back. Piss take or what.
15 Posted 28/10/2021 at 11:41:53
The very curious early hype as a future Barcelona manager based on nothing; hype that grew in inverse proportion as he continued to cement how little he has to offer, all presented in a vein of dour, gruff and misplaced arrogance.
Even stranger that the early evidence of his unsuitability and difficult persona was ignored for every subsequent appointment - and on he continued, laying the same trail.
Should have retired the 26-inch tree trunks with his reputation intact. He is no manager.
16 Posted 28/10/2021 at 12:06:01
17 Posted 28/10/2021 at 12:33:53
18 Posted 28/10/2021 at 12:57:12
If I was Moshiri, I would have sacked him on the spot and made a valid case for kicking him out without compensation because he had undermined the club.
19 Posted 28/10/2021 at 13:20:31
Why don't we offer him to Newcastle and get Koeman back?
20 Posted 28/10/2021 at 13:35:18
21 Posted 28/10/2021 at 13:42:47
Why don't we put our dicks in a blender?
22 Posted 28/10/2021 at 13:44:36
23 Posted 28/10/2021 at 13:51:28
24 Posted 28/10/2021 at 14:35:29
No tears being shed here for his demise.
25 Posted 28/10/2021 at 14:51:21
One down, one to go. Ancelotti you are next. Bring them both back to Goodison to be paraded in front of The Grim Reaper.
Disrespecting Everton!!! Pair of Bastards.
26 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:06:22
I can't think of many top, top drawer players who succeed at management. They are few and far between.
My theory is that they were that good players, they didn't have to think about it. It was instinct. So they don't know how to explain it.
Whereas an average player who done well and played at a decent level without setting the world alight, knows what it takes but can explain, demonstrate and coach.
I'll give you another Dutch example; Guilit.
I don't know if it's because they are not interested because they're not on the pitch anymore. Or, they get frustrated because players can't do what they would do.
I don't know the stats, and it would be open to interpretation of opinion, but I think generally, the majority of the most successful managers were not the superstars of their day.
Look at the Premier League Top 8 right now. In fact let's go top 10. Maybe 2 in there who were genuine top drawer players? And even one of those was a renowned super-sub.
27 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:19:44
And all this talk of Benitez going back to Newcastle. It's too far from Candy, isn't it?
28 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:27:00
I may have to save some for his Obituary.
29 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:37:55
On the subject of Rafa Benitez. I was far from happy with his appointment and he has a lot to do to make me happy as far as improving the team. However, if he is going to challenge the hierarchy and start calling for change in all areas related to football and we finally get rid of some deadwood, then I'll back Rafa.
All of the past managers mentioned in this thread were obviously only too willing to go along with the orders from football dunces running the club.
30 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:39:39
Someone, probably Xavi, now needs to shed a few high earners and build a team around the excellent Gavi, Pedri and Fati.
31 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:45:45
32 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:50:37
They will probably blame the succession of "Busted flush Hollywood managers" for fritting away the cash, and slag off the Ciutat Esportiva Joan Gamper fact finders who say that the youth coaches have gone into decline and produced "diamonds" like Deulofeu who were "never given a chance."
You can get pretty good panoramic views up there in the Nou Camp so I am sure there's an expert on BlaugranaWeb putting the world to rights.
33 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:52:20
I suspect he may possibly end up in the Ajax job if Ten Haag moves on to England?
34 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:53:41
There's a good piece from Julian Nagelsmann of Bayern (still only 34) with the sound bite management is 30% tactics and 70% social competence. That's very unlike being a player.
Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho etc were all incredibly shrewd operators who made individuals better and made teams better than the sum of their parts - and that applies to the wider coaching staff as much as it applies to the playing staff.
These guys would have been a success in any walk of life. People with their skill set and drive always go far.
35 Posted 28/10/2021 at 15:57:22
I'm so annoyed with you I was looking for an anthem for Benitez and you go and spoil it by saying you meant Caldy.
36 Posted 28/10/2021 at 16:02:46
Yes Colin, I didn't think he was serious.
Brent, stings a bit doesn't it?
37 Posted 28/10/2021 at 16:05:43
A couple of nuggets from carameloweb.
Argumento del hombre de paja -
Jugador de campeonato en el mejor de los casos - Championship player at best.
No soltará su tren -
He won't let go of his train set.
I'm not convinced this one is correct though.
38 Posted 28/10/2021 at 16:15:42
Hahaha the universal language of fans
39 Posted 28/10/2021 at 16:38:03
"Dish iss futbol"
40 Posted 28/10/2021 at 17:09:14
41 Posted 28/10/2021 at 17:43:17
42 Posted 28/10/2021 at 17:58:33
Sadly, when he was rightly sacked, it still cost us a fortune. I cannot remember him contributing anything, and I hope that this is the end of his time in management.
43 Posted 28/10/2021 at 18:14:17
44 Posted 04/11/2021 at 11:54:19
Fail at a club and get paid up within a year and still be paid the remaining three years. Let the dust settle for a few months, take another job, fail again, get paid up for remaining 3 years. That is 8 years salary, for doing a 2-year project tops.
It is time something is brought in. You fail at a club, you have two choices: you do not work for the remaining time left on your contract elsewhere; if you take a job elsewhere, then the previous club does not have to pay anything after employment elsewhere has commenced.
45 Posted 04/11/2021 at 22:43:13
I don't like the guy. Never forgave him for the cheating clothesline he choked Amokatchi with.
He did a good job at Southampton and can see him doing well at a Dutch or German club bringing through talented youngsters.
I understand why he didn't but he should have stayed managing the national team.
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