Fixture this weekend, with kick-off times and TV coverage in the UK:

Saturday 4 December

12:30 West Ham United vs Chelsea on BT Sport 1
15:00 Newcastle United vs Burnley
15:00 Southampton vs Brighton & Hove Albion
15:00 Wolves vs Liverpool
17:30 Watford vs Manchester City on Sky Sports

Sunday 5 December

14:00 Leeds United vs Brentford
14:00 Manchester United vs Crystal Palace
14:00 Tottenham Hotspur vs Norwich City
16:30 Aston Villa vs Leicester City on Sky Sports


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Bill Gall
1 Posted 04/12/2021 at 14:23:48
West Hams 3rd goal... doesn't matter how they go in as long as they go in. I think that was meant to be a cross.
Charles Brewer
2 Posted 04/12/2021 at 14:29:01
Well, I see the useless dinosaur Moyes has just beaten Chelsea. Largely it would seem by making an attacking substitution near the end when Chelsea were all over West Ham.

Sort of not like taking Townsend off and putting Delph on when 2 down...

Ray Roche
3 Posted 04/12/2021 at 14:33:46
Charles, don't give Moyes any sort of credit, the ceiling will come down on you.
Tony Everan
4 Posted 04/12/2021 at 14:47:36
His recruiting has been quite shrewd, Coufal, Soucek, Bowen, Zouma all strong, battling players, hard to play against, with some technical ability too. Also he has inherited an academy diamond in Declan Rice.

He’s put together a no nonsense team that can scrap with the top 4/6. I didn’t want him back, but at the same time I admit he has done very well at West Ham and probably would have had us more organised too. That ship has well and truly sailed and to be honest I still wouldn’t want him here.

I can imagine Blue Bill giving Moshiri the old “I told you to sign up Davy Moyes !” “This current situation is nothing to do with me “.

Stephen Vincent
5 Posted 04/12/2021 at 14:51:38
No doubting Moyes's achievements with West Ham this season, but how many times did he beat Chelsea when he was with us for 11 years?

In fact, how many times did he try to beat Chelsea when he was with us? He was always happy with the point he started with.

Bill Gall
6 Posted 04/12/2021 at 15:16:10
Yes, David Moyes is doing well at West Ham, with some supporters saying we should have gone for him instead of Benitez, but this is his 3rd season with West Ham. Benitez has been with us for 6 months and we haven't given anyone more than 2 seasons.
Gary Smith
7 Posted 04/12/2021 at 15:33:55
Like the 3-4-2-1 Chelsea and West Ham both playing - but players need to be disciplined enough to stop it being a 5 all the time.. Would be good to see it tried on Monday.

Pickford
Godfrey Keane Branthwaite
Coleman Doucoure Allan Digne
Gordon Gray
Richarlison

Gary Smith
9 Posted 04/12/2021 at 15:59:05
I would settle for that 4-3-3 too, Ian, albeit I'd put Dobbin on the right, and Rondon behind the counter in the nearest chippy instead.
Ian Bennett
10 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:08:58
Yep agreed mate, not sure Dobbin is ready to start. But I'd certainly get him on with 20 minutes to go.
Dale Self
11 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:19:08
Fucking brilliant block on the line.

C'mon Wolves!

Bill Gall
12 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:22:47
Gary,

Most of the game, West Ham were playing 5 at the back with 3 in front of them.

Adrian Evans
13 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:38:53
That's Moyes just sorted out Chelsea and the gengenpress, 3 points. 👍👍

West Ham sorted us out; they will be Top 4 and Champions League. Not bad for a crap manager.

We are so divided as 39,000, but that's years of crap. The last 6 years, we are all flipping dizzy.

Take control, Big Sam. At least we'll know where we are, mid table or better.

Toon winning 1-0 at the moment. Are there 3 teams worse than us at the moment, before May? I doubt it.

Crisis now, don't wait. Give big Dunc the team, get 10 points, we hope out of 15th before January. Only 15 or 17 more points to get before the end of May.

Dunc cannot do any worse than what Rafa will do. He will get players in to play away to keep us up for now.

Or it's Big Sam.
🙈

Ian Bennett
14 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:50:41
Sacking Benitez might provide a result bounce, but it's not the long-term answer to allow the players and the DoF to continue to get away with it.

That said, playing Mane vs Coleman, and a midfield two of Allan & Doucoure vs Tiago, Henderson & Fabinho was madness.

I was expecting Benitez to be tactically very clever. He turned it around in one game vs Southampton but, since then, he's been hugely naive in my opinion.

Poor at set-pieces, wide open leading to pressure which is driving a huge number of individual mistakes. Moyes against Watford, would've brought on a defender like a Heitinga or Weir – and taken the win, shutting up shop.

I am not advocating Moyes, but Benitez needs to lower his expectations on their defensive ability. Because they're awful.

Bill Gall
15 Posted 04/12/2021 at 16:57:22
they have to score don't they there could have only been less than a min
Dave Abrahams
16 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:00:46
Bill (15), they even get something out of their crap players.!!
Finn Taylor
17 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:05:37
Watch Man City now lose to Watford.

Can't see Moyes coming back to Everton, ever. Why would he? He probably thinks it more amateurish now that when he came in 2002!

Jeff Armstrong
18 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:09:33
Ian Bennett, spot-on regarding Benitez's mistakes. I'll add picking Rondon and Iwobi to his crime sheet too.

For me, Rondon having a half-decent game against Liverpool just went to prove how lazy he has been in his previous games.

Brands, Kenwright and Moshiri are guilty as sin, but Benitez has been really poor.

Joe McMahon
19 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:12:01
The awful week just continues. That lot will win the league (again) the year there is a real possibility we will get relegated.

How Kenwright, Unsworth and Ferguson can even show their faces, after all these years of the demise they are part of.

Geoff Lambert
20 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:16:46
Now only 5 points off the bottom, we are getting sucked into the black hole that is relegation with no way out. Games on 26 and 30 December looking crucial now, away to Burnley and at home to The Geordies – lose either of them and we could be bottom for the New Year.
Nick Page
21 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:23:37
Just seen the red shite score. 35+ years I've been watching those poxy bastards do that. Scored more penalties and 90+ minute goals than anyone else since the Premier League started. Never ever tell me they aren't lucky.
Dale Self
22 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:35:55
Well, City going top may be the highlight of the day. I’ll take it
Nick Page
23 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:38:14
I can see them slaughtering Watford 0-1, Dale. Satan is on the prowl.
Barry Rathbone
24 Posted 04/12/2021 at 17:49:13
Nick Page @21,

When you watch it, year-in & year-out for 60+ years, like some of us, you get past caring.

Hang in there – every cloud...

Bill Gall
25 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:04:40
I do not believe that Man City were ever thinking of letting Bernardo Silva go.
Ray Roche
26 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:12:35
Tell you what: City are lovely to watch.
Dale Self
27 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:14:30
Yes, Nick and Bill,

Silva is sublime. I think it's Gundogan that makes that City thing work so well though.

And Barry, cynical and I like it. I'm in for the long haul.

Jeff Armstrong
28 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:42:15
I find watching Man City bores me to fuck.

Maybe it's a jealousy thing... but I turned off at 0-2.

Brent Stephens
29 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:52:21
What a beautiful 3rd goal from Silva. Sublime.
Brent Stephens
30 Posted 04/12/2021 at 18:57:33
City scraping the barrel with subs – De Bruyne and Mahrez now on.
Dale Self
31 Posted 04/12/2021 at 19:15:27
Mr Cathcart got a two for one in there.
Ron Marr
32 Posted 04/12/2021 at 20:19:17
"Rondon behind the counter in the nearest chippy instead."

The food would be cold by the time he served it.

Danny O’Neill
33 Posted 04/12/2021 at 21:18:30
I didn't catch a lot of the Premier League today. I saw West Ham come back to snatch the win. They all count, but he so meant to curl that in as a cross, but slightly sliced it, which caught the keeper out!! Fair credit to them for still trying to win it though.

Despite the result, still impressed with Chelsea. Rudiger. What I would give for a central defender with that type of drive, pushing his team higher up the pitch. His midfield has no option other than to get forward. At one point, there was a move where, other than Pulisic, he was the furthest Chelsea player forward and he'd carried the ball himself from his own 18-yard box.

I agree with the half-jealousy, half-praise call on Man City. When they play like that, as they did against us, you can't but help admire the finely tuned Bentley engine they are.

Probably the team I begrudgingly like watching the most apart from Everton right now.

Nick Page
34 Posted 04/12/2021 at 21:51:02
City for the purists. They don't hoof it up the pitch and all leg it hoping for a mistake to capitalise on. I like them.
Derek Moore
35 Posted 04/12/2021 at 21:55:53
Barcodes win, Southampton avoid defeat and move above us, Liverpool last-minute winner.

Boss.

Barry Hesketh
36 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:03:13
Derek @35,

You could look at it this way, Burnley lost, Southampton dropped two points in the latter stages of their match with Brighton, Wolves are still near enough to catch.

Danny O’Neill
37 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:04:11
Agree Nick. As a purist, City are great to watch when in full flow. Not afraid to go backwards and sideways, but when they go forward, it's with real intent. It's like going through the gears.

Slightly disagree with the view on Liverpool in honesty. They do tend to go forward quickly and almost bypass midfield, but their intense forward pressing isn't hoping for a mistake. It intentionally forces them from the opposition, which they then capitalise on in my opinion.

Very different styles, but both very effective. And both very intended.

Don Alexander
38 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:24:49
Watching the allegedly world famous EPL is to me becoming more and more like watching shooting fish in a barrel, six teams possessing the guns, the rest swimming around in frantic terrified circles trying to stay alive until or if one of the six dozily falls in to join them for once. It rarely happens.
Barry Rathbone
39 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:27:06
City are flat track bullies comfy when not in a dogfight but get at them and they cave. No surprise Chels nailed them in the CL final and the neighbours across the park terrify them. For all their money they're still a gang of choking tarts.
Joe McMahon
40 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:35:43
Danny, unfortunately the lot across the Park (imo) are more or less unbeatable. The amount of goals they score is on another planet, and the finishers/goalscorers they have. Yes I hate them with a passion, and it's puts into perspective and unfortunately the pathetic outfit Everton are.
Paul Hewitt
41 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:42:06
The way people are talking you would think we where in a relegation scrap. We are Not.
Derek Moore
42 Posted 04/12/2021 at 22:51:04
You're arguing semantics though Paul. It's six losses in seven and no league win since September mate. It's nowhere near good enough.
Paul Hewitt
43 Posted 04/12/2021 at 23:11:29
I agree Derek it isn't good enough. But Benitez has had less than 2 million in transfer funds. Lost his best 2 goalscorers, midfielder and CB. Let's give the guy time. Or what's the point?
Sam Hoare
44 Posted 04/12/2021 at 23:12:12
Paul, I usually lambast the relegation naysayers but I’m not quite so confident right now. It’s not so easy to look around and find 3 or so teams who are definitively worse than us currently. Newcastle and Norwich seem buoyed by new managers, Burnley look poor but Dyche has turned this around before, Leeds have been unlucky a few times, Brentford look decent, Watford look pretty rubbish but have injury issues even worse than ours currently.

I’d still bet on us to finish 10th-14th but the longer this current run continues the closer we get to a relegation scrap. Let’s see what happens on Monday but lose that and there’s a decent chance we’re only a few points above the relegation zone.

Dale Self
45 Posted 05/12/2021 at 15:35:07
Ayew Idiot. I needed that

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