The Everton midfielder who has hardly played since joining the club more than 2 years ago, failed a breath test after his Audi RS Q8 collided with a Jaguar while he was exiting the M56 near his home in Hale Barns, Cheshire.
Having failed breath tests for alcohol, he was fined £25,000 plus £275 costs after pleading guilty at Manchester Magistrates' Court and banned from driving for 14 months.
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1 Posted 29/09/2021 at 09:38:17
2 Posted 29/09/2021 at 11:24:18
It's just one of dem songs
3 Posted 29/09/2021 at 11:46:50
4 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:13:43
And the fans had a go at James….
5 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:18:21
6 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:23:28
Not condoning drink-driving in any way. But this was not the result of an all-night bender. He cooperated with the police and the other driver at the scene. Assumed full responsibility for his actions. Expressed genuine remorse.
I'll wager some TWers have been done for worse drink-driving offences than this.
7 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:36:36
8 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:37:31
9 Posted 29/09/2021 at 12:54:51
No wonder he can't get fit.
10 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:02:14
11 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:06:02
12 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:13:18
13 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:19:35
14 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:23:54
15 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:27:13
When I was working, I would undoubtedly been sacked for an offence such as this - he should be too.
As for the claim that he's on £25k pw, that is admitted to be after tax - and no doubt all other deductions. £25k is no doubt the net amount that hits his bank account every week. Any £25million player who's on such a "paltry" amount would be sacking his agent!
PS - if he'd only had one drink, had gone to bed and was still 50% over the limit hours later, it must have been a very large one!
16 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:28:38
That could amount to one drink too many. A pint, or maybe a single measure of spirits.
Not excusing the fact that he was somewhat naive/thoughtless/however you want to word it but at 52 micrograms etc etc he wouldn't have been drunk or anywhere near it.
Still a silly mistake but not the hanging offence some are making it out to be, and yes still wrong.
And I bet there are literally thousands of Evertonians who drive home from the game "slightly" over the limit.
17 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:35:45
This lad is lucky that he didn't hurt himself or others by his foolish actions, he broke the law and was caught out, the courts have dealt with him and like any other person, he's allowed to continue on with his life, hopefully, he has learned his lesson.
18 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:38:16
19 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:43:07
The Everton committee comprised a number of people who were active in the Temperance Movement - a group who were against alcohol consumption on the grounds that much social misery at the time was caused by drink. As a result, the Temperance Movement actively fought against breweries and tried to get alcohol banned. Mahon was the organist of St Domingo Chapel and the chapel was renowned for its anti-drink stance, as were the minister, the Reverend Ben Chambers, and Will Cuff, the choir master who would later become Chairman of Everton. John Houlding, however, was a brewer.
Extremely Ironic as the club's performances over the years have turned quite a lot of us to drink at times.
20 Posted 29/09/2021 at 13:56:38
21 Posted 29/09/2021 at 14:00:04
An old taxi driver once said to me "good drivers drive the other fellas vehicle as well as their own" not possible with senses dulled by chemicals.
22 Posted 29/09/2021 at 14:26:00
Don't drink and drive. I went out for a meal with my son two weeks ago in Glasgow at the start of college term. He had a pint and thought he could drive. I said you might be over the limit or not, but if you had a accident even if under the limit it could count against you and why take the risk of any possible grief. I drove back to the hotel. Told him never to drink and drive.
23 Posted 29/09/2021 at 14:32:23
Derek's put a lot of effort into the collection and also the ToffeeWeb get togethers.
So if you pledged to support the charity please do it, and if you didn't then do it anyway.
24 Posted 29/09/2021 at 14:35:35
25 Posted 29/09/2021 at 14:44:56
26 Posted 29/09/2021 at 15:00:07
27 Posted 29/09/2021 at 16:03:58
28 Posted 29/09/2021 at 16:26:38
29 Posted 29/09/2021 at 16:38:32
Anyway, yeah, he did something monumentally stupid, accepted responsibility and is paying the price -- not the least of which, as Kevin #13 points out, would be the likely fury of his boss. Well-deserved fury, in my opinion.
I just wonder, however, how much of the venom here is based on the fact that he's not a contributor on the pitch. If the offender were Mina or Duke or Dom, would anybody be saying, "sack him"?
30 Posted 29/09/2021 at 17:05:01
31 Posted 29/09/2021 at 17:33:42
32 Posted 29/09/2021 at 17:47:49
33 Posted 29/09/2021 at 17:55:00
If you're over the limit ban them for life. It's not a mistake – it's driving when you know you're over the limit.
34 Posted 29/09/2021 at 18:37:18
35 Posted 29/09/2021 at 18:47:33
36 Posted 29/09/2021 at 18:48:11
37 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:03:56
It really is absolutely horrendous. How much are that lot worth now? I reckon we'd get £10 million for Iwobi if we're lucky and he could be persuaded to leave. the rest? There is a significant danger Kean comes back to us in 2 years and then leaves for nowt. The others, the less said the better.
And then on top of that, how many decent performances have we had from any of them? You can count them on the fingers of one hand. Brands has blown close to £200M in fees and wages just in that window, and we've had nothing to show for it.
38 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:05:27
Personally I think this prick should have his contract ripped up and be legged.
39 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:15:13
"If the offender were Mina or Duke or Dom, would anybody be saying, "sack him"?"
In a heartbeat. Ditto if it were Maradona, Pele or Messi in their pomp playing in blue – some things are beyond parochial idiocy.
40 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:16:08
Maybe seeing the clubs spend fortunes on media training for young players, maybe they should set aside some of that money to educate their young players about alcohol and drugs as both seem prevalent in players.
41 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:21:52
He earns plenty of dosh – so let's over-react to a minor offence.
42 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:24:02
43 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:29:04
44 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:31:59
45 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:39:14
Very cosy down there it seems to me.
46 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:50:04
Must cost in relative terms, little more than a pair of underpants to the average Premier League footballer. No need to get into these situations.
Large old fine though; unusual.
47 Posted 29/09/2021 at 19:51:03
48 Posted 29/09/2021 at 20:02:19
We also of course carry Delph and Tosun but other than that a lot of wages have been cleared and that means we can hopefully start again and improve the squad from here.
As Tony has said, we have been in the same position a few times over the last few years now, thinking we could be on the verge of something with a few quality additions. Then he goes and spoils it all by saying something stupid like lwobi, we need you.
Back to basics with this Rafa guy. Could be a good thing in the long run to clear out as much crap as we can. Make space so we can give the kids a glimmer. Then bring in the right players, at the right price. It's oh so simple, l've heard.
49 Posted 29/09/2021 at 20:07:32
50 Posted 29/09/2021 at 20:28:12
51 Posted 29/09/2021 at 21:21:33
52 Posted 30/09/2021 at 02:14:58
Made me laugh. Will do for a while, I believe. Keep up the funny remarks.
But why can't these stars pay a driver?
Also, Gbamin will never play for us again. His glass physique won't allow for him playing top level, so he'll see the contract out and then start a band... or something. But playing conscetutive matches for Everton... No Way!
53 Posted 30/09/2021 at 06:00:40
Steve Hopkins @ 7, Nail, spot on head there, mate, with that post.
54 Posted 30/09/2021 at 07:50:26
Yes he's had horrendous luck with injuries but we couldn't build a team around Darron Gibson and Gbamin is much the same.
The fee we paid, the wages he's on and the fact he's been here 2 years and hasn't made five starts is beyond belief really.
Gbamin, Delph, Tosun, all stealing a wage and have done for too long, we need to find a solution to these three players so they are no longer our problem.
55 Posted 30/09/2021 at 09:29:36
If we'd fired this bum a year ago we could have perhaps kept Virginia - who is certainly an improvement on Begovic - or bought one of the others whom “Financial Fair Play” restrictions made impossible.
Off-topic: Has anyone noticed how Derby County is being destroyed (multiple points deductions) because of technical financial rules, while the “Shite Six” have now been told that they don't even have to pay the pitiful fines imposed for trying to destroy the sport?
56 Posted 30/09/2021 at 09:42:30
The lad has had two horrific injuries and by all accounts has showed an exemplary work rate and attitude to try and get back to playing over the last few years.
This late night incident was certainly his fault and he should be held accountable but the same cannot be said for his lack of time on the playing fields.
57 Posted 30/09/2021 at 09:48:42
58 Posted 30/09/2021 at 09:50:55
59 Posted 30/09/2021 at 09:59:38
60 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:03:44
61 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:13:31
As for calling him a waste of space he has had two very bad injuries which can happen to anyone. I'd say give him a break but that's the last thing he needs, another bad injury!
62 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:16:49
They would also have to demonstrate the potential damage to the club's reputation. It would get very messy. I assume we'd rather get him back on the pitch and take it from there.
Internal disciplinary action is something else. I expect, based on what happened with other players, that he will be hit with a club fine on top of that imposed by the court. I think Rooney lost two weeks wages.
63 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:34:36
I'm not condoning drink driving by any means; why was the fine so high? Is there a reason?
64 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:44:30
The fine is based on the individuals income/expenditure. I think it's uncapped as well.
65 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:51:47
As Steven Hopkins mentioned, the money he has, getting a taxi on the night in question, which he could easily afford would have averted all this. I know it's easy to be wise in retrospect or have Darren Hindsight, but you know what I mean. :-)
66 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:55:53
I tend to lean towards it being a young lad who's made a mistake that many others do. That doesn't make it right, but life is littered with personal mistakes as much as it is successes.
But. he lives in the bubble of the modern professional footballer, so there's more outrage and criticism. This has probably been compounded by the fact he's pretty much been injured for just about the entirety of his contract at Everton so this is generating further frustration and criticism from the Everton fan base.
It does however seem a large fine. Is that the legal one? If so based on his salary (so relative)? Or is it what the club has fined him? Sorry, questions. No answers!
67 Posted 30/09/2021 at 10:58:26
68 Posted 30/09/2021 at 11:47:53
It could be he had quite a few drinks and waited til 5 am, thinking most would be out of his system by then. You could then say "Well, at least he had the sense to not drive earlier, when more alcohol could have affected him more."
Either way, no-one should get behind a wheel after having drunk alcohol, it is just not worth putting someone else's lives at risk.
69 Posted 30/09/2021 at 11:59:50
70 Posted 30/09/2021 at 12:11:09
Jean-Philippe Gbamin is another of those whose value has plummeted as he's only managed to play one or two games since his arrival. The Board of Directors need to look at these awful signings!
Oops, I forgot: Brands is on the board!
71 Posted 30/09/2021 at 13:01:57
However, it doesn't ring true that he only had one drink.
Many years ago I used to manage pubs and at the end of a 14 hour shift I'd sit down with a couple of pints of low strength lager (4% max) for a couple of hours with my staff. I never had more than 1 pint per hour and never more than 2 in total. Sure enough, I got pulled over at 3 am one night and breathalysed, I blew 18 µg, well within the 35 µg limit. So to blow 52 µg after one drink does not ring true to me.
72 Posted 30/09/2021 at 17:00:53
Gbamin had played 200 games in 6 seasons for Lens and Mainz - hardly the sign of an injury prone footballer.
Think we have to give Brands a pass on this one.
73 Posted 30/09/2021 at 19:51:19
He is indeed "a bum" and a "waste of space".
I have far more sympathy with some poor kid who has had his entire youth consumed after being signed by Everton at the age of 11 or something, who has learned nothing apart from football, and at the age of 18 is "let go".
In any sensible commercial operation, he would have been fired at the latest after the first season he was unavailable.
And as for driving while pissed (as has been noted, it wasn't marginal) that should constitute grounds for immediate dismissal.
74 Posted 30/09/2021 at 20:01:21
75 Posted 30/09/2021 at 20:09:38
I'm not sure this has ever happened on the internet before. I'd better go and lie down.
76 Posted 30/09/2021 at 20:12:29
77 Posted 30/09/2021 at 20:27:35
We all know excessive consumption of alcohol is detrimental to sports performance. Gbamin's doing himself no favours at all if his aim is to try to get back to full fitness. Furthermore, drink-driving calls into question his moral turpitude and current psychological frame of mind.
78 Posted 30/09/2021 at 20:48:00
Surely we should be prepared to cut this kid some slack and refrain from calling him a "bum" etc.
There are some pious contributors on here. It seems to me that some are jealous of any young feller earning big bucks and some who have been frustrated at his injury record and can't wait to stick the boot in.
He did wrong and will be punished.
I hope the man gets properly fit and does a job for us.
79 Posted 30/09/2021 at 22:41:23
What I would question is his value to his employer. In most other occupations his contract would have been terminated after a couple of months.
Why is football so different?
80 Posted 30/09/2021 at 22:51:28
Of course his appearances for his previous two clubs are relevant, they are the basis on which he was signed. I presume as well that he passed his medical.
For once, I can't for the life of me see how Brands can be blamed for Gbamin's injury problems since he arrived at Everton.
81 Posted 01/10/2021 at 14:47:41
82 Posted 01/10/2021 at 15:13:16
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