Cazoo sponsorship to end this summer

It's fortunate that the club have a fantastic commercial department who probably have a waiting list of replacements itching to get on board...

"It's fortunate that the club have a fantastic commercial department..."

Haha – that made me chuckle!

So, either Everton and Cazoo really have been unable to agree suitable terms, or there's some opportunistic, tacit virtue signalling going on, based on the time frame.

Lyndon and Michael - I'm on the site with Chrome on an Android phone, and every time I navigate to a new page an Ad panel appears after about a second right on top of the photo or text towards the top of the page, completely obscuring it.

This has been happening for about a week now. I noticed you introduced ads on page load a few weeks ago and it was working fine initially (the underlying page was offset correctly to accommodate them), but now the behaviour has changed and the page is being overlaid.

Let me know if you need android or chrome versions etc.

Other than that - thanks once again for giving us this resource for all our highs and lows!

Cazoo were willing to pay X amount Everton FC wanted Y amount, that is the reason for the end of the link-up when the contract ends in the summer – but hey that's not as interesting as mostly unfounded speculation is it?

Really annoying feature that is doing my head in!

I agree. Their statement says: "We were unable to agree suitable terms". If it were Ukraine related, surely they'd emphasize that by saying "We don't want to sponsor Everton because a company, owned by a guy whose wife used to be friends with Putin's one-time girlfriend also sponsored them until they cut ties with him because of the Ukraine war so, to show our disgust at Everton's three degrees of separation 'connection' with Putin, we are cutting ties to signal our moral virtue."

Plus what's the reputational risk for Cazoo? "I was thinking of getting a car delivered from Cazoo but once I saw Everton play on TV, and the players had Cazoo on their shirts and in the background I saw an ad for MegaFon so I Googled that and found it's also connected to USM, which is owned by Usmanov who knows Putin, so therefore I no longer want that car."

I did use the word either in my post.

This is because I don't know for sure and was indeed speculating, based on current events; Cazoo being willing to continue, as with Villa, my belief that Everton are probably unlikely to wildly hype our requirements in our present situation and so on. I also don't know it was about X and Y any more than you do, as I wasn't there.

Nothing wrong with speculation and healthy scepticism when we don't know for certain.

No take or information as to whether those describe the Cazoo decision.

Reputations affect contract negotiations and can sometimes affect cost projections in the situations where the entity is leveraged. The risk is that, when an entity's reputation is negatively affected, it could affect future contracts and thus the future revenue stream.

The most recent concrete example is the banks that have backed away from Manafort after Stephen Caulk was sentenced. Before these recent developments with oligarchs that is.

I remember complaints with NEC because their name was printed in red in the programme! And I'll always associate it with that awful Lineker white bib top.

You've learned what is meant by 'virtue signalling' and I now understand the concept of 'reputational risk'.

It's been an enlightening day. :)

I think that's all I remember Tony.

I'm not much good at quizes!

My favourite kit, which I still wear, is the 1995 FA Cup Final shirt.

No logo at all as the deal with NEC had run out at the end of the league season and the new sponsor was lined up for the following year. The players had a sponsor logo when NEC stumped up a bonus, but the replicas were sold without as it was just for one game.

It still looks class.

The one around 92-93 salmon stripped top was one of the better away tops, be nice to bring that one back for next season.

Haha you're making me homesick. I haven't had a Revel in 20 years. Unlike Branston's Pickle, mince pies, PG Tips and Heinz Baked Beans, they haven't made it over to The Old British Shop in Kansas City.

Something about the continental look of the blue and black on it and simple straightforward sponsor.

I hope we don't get one or those woeful betting companies again with insane writing all over the place.

On away shirts, my least favourite has to be around 1996 and some weird yellow and black striped concoction. Maybe even another yellow number just prior to that with "zig-zag" stripes all over it.

Oh and that awful "Vinny Samways" white thing we wore in the post FA Cup win season when we took the Charity / Community Shield.

Just keep it simple. Royal Blue and Amber for me.

To add to the debate; white socks or blue? I'm a white sock advocate.

Providing we survive with Lampard as manager and the new stadium on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey, that should be a magnet to some big new sponsors.

COYB

We brought in a new manager but continue to struggle trying to play football or get positives results leaving us on the relegation threshold.

Cazoo happy with Villa association and probably offer a few more million. Not so bothered with us, offer a few less million and we turned it down.

Sponsorship is easy when all is going well. Less so for us both on and off the pitch due to so many unknowns.

I loved the dark green 3rd kit of about 5 years ago ​and also the striped navy and purple.

Hoops and Stripes can work. Sash, no? It looks cheap and tacky like a hen do or some pageant ribbon.

3rd kits are there to experiment with. I think a classic Croatian style green (obviously not red) and white square pattern could be a winner, especially for the kids.

I loved the Hafnia and NEC days. Thought Cazoo was good.

Cazoo exiting is not exactly surprising, but it will be a challenge to replace them with a much more favourable deal for the club. I would not be surprised to see a gambling or crypto/NFT replacement for Cazoo either. If you follow the money, that's where it seems to be, right now at least anyway.

It's essentially start-up type deals, with most of the entrants in crypto, so expect even more sponsor turnover if the club does go this route.

Just asking llke.

I'd love us to get NEC again. My memory of football goes back to 1989 so they are always our sponsor in my head.

Just like United will always be Sharp, Liverpool will be Candy and Arsenal will always be JVC.

Teams seemed to have the same sponsor for years back then.

We could even wear their old fashioned excellent Blues shirts they make too... double bubble!

One, we have a new and better deal lined up; and two, we can't be that strapped for cash to go ahead and cancel an agreement with what's going on at the minute.

Very strange, hoping number one is the answer.

Alex Chesterman, who owns the brand, rarely gets these kind of matters wrong.

As we're seeing in Formula 1 and US sports, some of these new Crypto start ups have billions to spend and so are likely to be the best place to get a very lucrative deal in the recession that is coming.

These companies have billions, by the way, because huge venture capitalist firms and the major finance institutions are pumping money into the space as it's going to disrupt everything in the way the Internet did.

Some of these crypto companies are likely to take out companies like VISA and AMEX long term by making transactions nearly free for vendors and consumers.

Also the energy consumption thing is a myth. The ‘mining' occurs where energy is cheap (eg. Where excess energy is created and would be wasted so is sold cheap).

Banks consume 10x more energy and do a lot more environmental damage than something like Bitcoin. As does gold mining.

I get that fintech might be a thing that changes the world. Crypto currencies on the other hand are not a store of value, have no legal backing (as in are not legal tender anywhere and can't be used to pay taxes or government fees) so they are really just collectables – worth something because people like to have them and think they are worth something.

I collect stamps, similar thing, but at least there is a limit on supply of old stamps.

I think you have to separate out what cryptos are hoped to be and what they could easily become. It is a big problem for capitalism that a lot of opportunities are exploitable by the dregs of humanity as much as by the rest of us, and in some cases the dregs actually have the upper hand because they are without a conscience.

Maybe not Ponzi schemes as such, but there is definitely also the potential for a bubble to burst. Are you too young to remember the dot.com bubble?

I was thinking of the Dutch tulip bubble. The whole NFT thing is just bizarre. Millions blown on something without an actual use or tangible value.

John Quiggin:
"The “proof of work” process by which Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies are generated depends on “miners” competing to solve increasingly elaborate, but pointless, mathematical problems using specially designed computers and lots of electricity. The higher the price of Bitcoins, the more electricity it is worth burning to generate them.

Calculations a few years ago suggested that the electricity used in Bitcoin mining was comparable to the total demand of a small country like New Zealand. But as the price has risen, so has the demand on electricity resources, to the point where abandoned coal-fired power stations are being reopened. Even when Bitcoin is mined using renewable electricity, that electricity is diverted from other uses, which must then rely on coal-fired or gas-fired electricity.

As concerns have risen about the environmental damage caused by cryptocurrencies, attempts have been made to find “green” ways of producing them. Past efforts of this kind have failed, but perhaps these will succeed. However, we don't have time to wait and see. Financial institutions need to divest from cryptocurrencies and financial regulators need to shut them down. When and if an environmentally safe version emerges, we can take another look."

My loveable red friends in the playground were responsible for some particular sponsor - related quotes.

Can anyone guess what hilarious jibes me and my blue mates were subjected to ?

Never Everton's Cup?