Everton U23s thrashed by Champions Manchester City

Friday, 29 April, 2022 42comments  |  Jump to last

While the main focus of concerned Evertonians has rightly been on the dreadful performances of the senior side, Everton U23s were comprehensively thrashed by the PL2 Champions on their night of celebration in the season finalé at The Etihad. But Everton narrowly avoided the greater horror of relegation from PL2 Division 1, after Leeds Utd could only draw at Arsenal.

Only one change for Everton from the last game versus West Ham, Harry Tyrer replacing Barry Crellin in goal.

After complete domination by Man City for the first 7 minutes, in Everton's first attack, Whitaker drove a great volley against the bar.

Everton should have taken the lead on 14 minutes when Dodbin got free and past the City keeper a long way out but his shot on the empty net was poor and could not be finished at the far post by Cannon running in, who saw his shot cleared off the line. City then hit the post and had the rebound cleared off the line.

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The deadlock was broken on 22 minutes when Cole Palmer was allowed time to tee up a lovely curling shot beyond Tyrer and inside the post.

City went further ahead on the half-hour with another very slick goal, a tremendous finish by Lewis getting in behind the moribund Everton defence.

Palmer, easy as you like, put a dangerous free-kick inch-perfect into the top corner that Tyrer was desperately trying to cover. 3-0.

Emilio Lawrence had a rare venture forward and saw his shot slightly deflected wide, the resulting Everton corner was also headed wide from close range.

It was 4-0 well before the hour-mark when City passed their way through the Everton defence to score with ease. And it was 5-0 with 22 minutes left when City walked the ball into the Everton net. Delap then made it 6-0, quickly followed by the 7th for a rampant Man City.

Everton U23s: Tyrer, Mills, Campbell, Astley, Welch, Butterfield, Whitaker (46' McAllister), Price (62' Hunt [Y:90+3']), Dobbin, Cannon, Lawrence (74' Garcia).
Subs not Used: Crellin, Anderson.

 

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James Flynn
1 Posted 29/04/2022 at 17:41:41
Their low ranking affected by the club pushing more teenagers into the side.
Jerome Shields
2 Posted 29/04/2022 at 17:54:13
Malaise at all levels. Just due to the way the Club is being run. Good luck tonight.
Gary Jones
3 Posted 29/04/2022 at 18:18:09
If double relegation wasn’t enough to demonstrate the complete rot at the heart of the club, I don’t know what is.

#KenwrightOut #MoshiriOut

Kieran Kinsella
4 Posted 29/04/2022 at 18:21:28
Gary 3

I think team ranking at this level isn't necessarily indicative of actual performance in terms of development. Chelsea are below us and yet few would say they don't have good youngsters it is just their 18-23 year olds are in their first team or out on loan.

Paul Birmingham
5 Posted 29/04/2022 at 18:55:08
Just got in the ground a fair few here.

City are the winners of this League, so it will be interesting to see if they are in holiday mode or not.

Hopefully Everton put up a fight.

UTFT!

Michael Kenrick
6 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:04:49
Hmmm… so City blokes seem to think it's a good thing to win their league trophies. How fucken deluded can you get?
Phill Thompson
7 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:08:57
This is our team on our official blog.

The Everton side for tonight's match at the Etihad: Tyrer, Mills, Campbell, Astley, Welch, Butterfield, Price, Whitaker, Cannon, Lawrence, Dobbin

Paul Birmingham
8 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:18:24
Everton good on the counter, and have come close hitting the bar and a shot off the line.

Michael Kenrick
9 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:23:45
Shocking corner, who was that?

Standards have really gone to pot since Unsworth up and left.

Paul Birmingham
10 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:26:31
1-0, City, a bit of luck Everton could have had 3 goals.

City clinical finish. Looks like a tough night she'd.

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:28:03
Michael

I'm surprised since his deputies who took over were the cream of the crop among coaches and not just like his mates.

Tony Abrahams
12 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:45:22
Guardiola said that Man City made that much money from the sale of players from their academy that it allowed them to go and sign Jack Grealish from Villa.

Mark Boullé
13 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:50:46
Dear me, senior team are shite and going down, U23s are rubbish and going down, Everton Ladies are having a horrible year...

What a time to be a Bluenose...!!

Paul Birmingham
14 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:52:39
3-0, and tbh, they could have had 6.

A younger version of their first team.

Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 29/04/2022 at 19:58:58
Three brilliant goals to be honest, unstoppable, don’t know the ages of the City players but Everton have very young players in their team tonight.

We are advertising for a top coach to take over the Academy today, better late than never!!

Michael Kenrick
16 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:00:14
The good news is that Arsenal U23s are beating Leeds Utd 1-0 at half-time, a result which would keep Leeds below Everton and keep us safe from the dreaded relegation.
Tony Abrahams
17 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:19:48
I remember going on as a sub against City, at the old Maine Road, when they had to win, to win the old Central League. They were flying, I remember one player putting backspin on one of his passes, helping to deceive our keeper into giving away a penalty, and at 17 years of age, my only thought was “How am I going to get to this level?”

A few months later, I remember getting MotM against City, in another reserve game, and think this is what happens with young footballers.

Everton have got some good young players, but they've all been thrown in at the deep end together, and this has obviously made it a much more difficult season because of this.

Let them get the summer out of the way, I think a lot of young kids develop physically during the close season, and let's see how they come back next season, now they've got a bit more experience?

Paul Birmingham
18 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:24:35
4-0, no complaints – these are a very good U23 team for City.
Dave Abrahams
20 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:30:49
Leeds now beating Arsenal 2-1, it never rains but it pours!!
Paul Birmingham
21 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:38:01
7-0,
Dave Abrahams
22 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:42:31
Leeds are beating Arsenal 2-1.
Robert Tressell
23 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:43:30
Delap, Palmer, McAtee, Lavia, Kayky and Edozie would all be in or around our first team.

Palmer and McAtee are lovely footballers. Unfortunately we've nothing like that in our ranks. Possibly Metcalfe.

Tony Abrahams
25 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:50:24
It also appears that we don’t have anyone teaching the younger players to “really love the ball” or maybe the standard has dropped since Unsworth left.
Michael Kenrick
26 Posted 29/04/2022 at 20:52:11
Dave, stop posting that shit.

It's Arsenal 1 - 1 Leeds Utd.

Michael Kenrick
27 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:02:13
Dave, you naughty bugger, why post that?

As if things weren't bad enough.

Get yer bloody beads out and beg for forgiveness!

Phill Thompson
28 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:05:00
And that’s the Final score Arsenal 1-1 Leeds.
So we're safe from relegation… err well the u23s are!
Brian Wilkinson
29 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:08:17
How’s the women’s team doing.
Robert Tressell
30 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:10:54
Tony # 25. I hope some of our lads have your determination. That will stand them in good stead and despite this drubbing a few should have good careers.

Sad though because I think with a few of them they have real talent - but we approach the game as you would an amateur game and it doesn't help them showcase their talent.

No passing triangles. No structured movement of the ball up the pitch. No organisation in any attacking sense.

The kids at City will be coached along the lines of the grid used at La Masia which enables progression of the ball up the pitch, overloads, passing triangles and balls across the 6 yard box from wide positions.

Why not us?

Danny O’Neill
31 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:17:41
The clue is in the name of the game.

Football.

Take care of the football and impact or influence the game of football.

I'm probably being to simplistic, but control the football, you control the game.

Neil Copeland
32 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:18:03
Brian #29, they are shite as well but safe from relegation so actually pretty good
Dave Abrahams
33 Posted 29/04/2022 at 21:36:43
Michael (26-27), Not guilty your honour, I honestly would never knowingly post wrong information, especially if it was bad news.

On another website it said Leeds have now equalised and they have scored again to lead 2-1, I posted that in good faith, in fact Leeds scored in the 84th. minute to make it 2-1 but the goal was disallowed, thankfully, but that disallowed goal wasn’t reported until later in the thread, so apologies if I upset anyone but it was definitely not intended.

Paul Birmingham
34 Posted 29/04/2022 at 22:43:28
We beat them earlier in the season but they took the piss, tonight, after a decent start, by Everton.

Some of of the City players could make good careers in football, if they keep their application and focus.

But now for Chelsea.
UTFT!

Neil Copeland
35 Posted 29/04/2022 at 22:48:13
Paul, absolutely we can beat this lot, come on blues.

UTFT

Sam Hoare
36 Posted 30/04/2022 at 00:27:11
City (and Liverpool) have showed how investment into a club should be spent. Elite club now, with excellent professionals and a consistency of style and excellence at all levels. Admittedly they may have had richer benefactors but the contrast is damning.

Over to you Kevin Thelwell!!!

Kieran Kinsella
37 Posted 30/04/2022 at 01:01:04
Tony Abrahams

That City game you mentioned. Was that in the era of Paul Lake, Ian Brightwell, Redmond, Hinchcliffe etc I remember that group pre-dated Fergies fledglings are we’re rated similarly but never quite made it. I can’t remember the term the media came up with for Mel Machin but it was akin to Busbys babes. I remember you mentioning Gary Crosby so it’s roughly the era but maybe they were a year or two before your time.

Paul Birmingham
39 Posted 30/04/2022 at 01:27:41
Neil, deffo mate, Everton can do it, for sure.

I don't think Thomas Touchel is coached to meet the most partizan UK crowd, and he will find out what the soul, in football terms, is about this weekend.

UTFT!

Paul Birmingham
40 Posted 30/04/2022 at 01:50:35
Those who tend that standards have dropped since Unsworth left, fair play.

I think it's improved.

I'd say the players – albeit late, far too late – are now trying to use the ball and move off the ball better, but it's work in progress.

Tonight, Man City put on a show, Everton showed some rays of hope but, compared to the first game in November 2021 when, Everton beat this team, the ravages of a very tough season, have taken the toll.

But the lads stuck at it, but serious questions about the coaching at Finch Farm, as many have raised for donkey's years, is a good positioning point.

There's a massive gap, but starting late in the best practice and techniques, is better than never.

If Everton stay up, then they've earned it.

Tony Abrahams
41 Posted 30/04/2022 at 09:08:48
Kieran it was the day after Everton won the league at Norwich City, mate. Funny, I had to carry the skips back to the coach, which was parked on the concourse, outside the main entrance after the game. Loads of young lads had congregated and were giving us a little bit of stick, and although normally I’d have responded, I couldn’t let them hear my scouse accent, and I think I made the right choice, because a few minutes later one of our coach windows was smashed, after a brick was thrown!

I think Everton get coached to win from a very early age Robert. I also don’t think there is anything wrong with this unless it gets in the way of nurturing talent.

Look at results from tournaments, Everton’s younger teams always do very well, so if they are winning, they must have talented kids, which is why I personally think that, the initial recruitment is not the real problem?

Robert Tressell
42 Posted 30/04/2022 at 09:40:39
Tony I don't think initial recruitment is the problem either. Our 7 year olds are probably as good as anyone's.

But being coached to win youth football matches does not equate to good coaching. I think it does get in the way of nurturing talent.

It equates to finding a simple formula to win youth matches:

- physical attributes often beats technical ability

- score goals from counter attacks and set pieces

- force opposition mistakes

You can see all of that in evidence in our u23s.

There is a bit of token (and stressful to watch) playing out from the back but that is our only consistent commitment to use of the ball in possession.

Players like Whitaker and Dobbin are good footballers and probably could have held their own in that Man City side. Welch, Campbell and one or two others too maybe.

The difference is that the City players are drilled in the things that allow them to win by using the ball properly.

Highly rated Emilio Lawrence must be wondering whether it's a good idea to get out now and learn how to use the ball properly.

Sam is right that City and others have invested in this (and the rewards are evident) but I wonder how the investment compares to, say, our investment in a player like Iwobi or Tosun (where it really wouldn't have been hard to get a player as good for 1/4 of the price).

Tony Abrahams
43 Posted 30/04/2022 at 09:58:53
You write what I have felt for a very long time now Robert. Many years ago my partners son was playing an under 10’S game at finch farm, and Everton won because they had better players. It was all strength and individual talent though, and I was very surprised that the coaches, never had them passing and trying to keep the ball, once they had a good lead, and this just appeared very lazy to me at the time.

Telling a kid to pass the ball, when he’s got the strength or ability to do it all by himself won’t be easy, but how are they going to truly learn, if you don’t?

Dave Abrahams
44 Posted 30/04/2022 at 10:47:03
I think at Everton and possibly other clubs they look at the coaching badges the coaches have got and appoint them then find out later their ability doesn't amount to all that much, like Robert (42) I found it stressful to watch Everton's U23s more often than not.

Growing up older fella's would always tell me “Let the ball do the work” watching Everton's teams at all levels that poor ball gets worked to death just going from the penalty area to the half-way line then gets passed all the way back to Pickford to starts the process again.

How did Busby, Catterick, Shankly, Nicholson, Clough and many other managers do so well without these coaching badges? It will be interesting to see how Unsworth prospers now with his badges.

Danny O’Neill
45 Posted 30/04/2022 at 14:24:12
I am a scratched record on this. If you focus on results at youth level, you are not focussing on coaching or development. You are feeding your own ego. Results really don't matter at youth level.

I was out with the wife and dogs this morning and starting ranting because I was watching the local teams going through their training.

I almost wanted to go over and take over. Coaching? Sending them around the pitch and then run up and down in a straight line. When do you play football in a straight line? Press ups. Not once did I see them working with a football. When I coached, the warm ups were always based around the ball. Mini matches with emphasis on tempo to keep the ball or press to win it back. Work harder off the ball than on it, but be comfortable when you have it. I watched blokes shouting instructions that they probably could carry out themselves and just sent the lads running around a pitch whilst they

I got told to shut up and leave it by my better half. But it frustrates the hell out of me.


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