With his agent, Mino Raiola, in Turin meeting with officials from Juventus today, there was renewed talk that a deal for Kean was in the works and Italian football journalist Alfredo Pedullà tweeted that Juve have contacted Everton about the player's availability while Sport Witness claimed that the Blues were now open to a loan deal.
Pedullà, along with his compatriot Gianluca DiMarzio, has since added to that, saying that Everton have agreed to loan Kean back to Juventus with an obligation to purchase him outirght for the same fee the Toffees paid for him.
Late tonight, Sky Sports weighed in to bolster speculation that Kean was in advanced talks with Juventus about a loan-cum-permanent move back to his native Italy.
Kean joined Everton two years ago for £25m but has failed to settle on Merseyside and spent last season on loan at Paris Saint-Germain.
With Cristiano Ronaldo having departed Juve for Manchester United, Calciomercato.com in Italy are now claiming that Kean has agreed personal terms with his former club and all that remains is for the two clubs to agree.
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1 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:46:25
2 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:49:25
3 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:53:59
Never going to happen for him here...
4 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:56:54
5 Posted 26/08/2021 at 17:57:18
6 Posted 26/08/2021 at 18:09:25
7 Posted 26/08/2021 at 18:37:40
Make Juventus pay £15M now plus McKennie. Oor Ask PSG for Gueye plus £15M for Kean – they may go for it.
8 Posted 26/08/2021 at 18:38:17
Sadly, I agree with Barry - there is a bit of a cursed air about Kean's Everton tenure at this point. What hope there was of him igniting something here was likely dashed by that offsides and red card combo.
9 Posted 26/08/2021 at 18:42:14
Personally, I'd keep him rather than loan him to them. Send a message that we're not a walkover any more.
10 Posted 26/08/2021 at 18:43:43
And Jack (7), I suspect Branthwaite has been made available to go out on loan again, and that, if he has been mentioned in respect of players that Benitez is not looking to use this season, then that might be why. Either way, there is not much out there I have seen suggesting he has been specifically made available for permanent transfer.
11 Posted 26/08/2021 at 19:04:32
12 Posted 26/08/2021 at 19:36:52
Kean came to us for £25M on a 5-year deal at a £2.8M a year salary. So to leave him languishing in the U23s (he qualifies) will cost the club almost £8M in the next 12 months' accounts. Sending him out on loan will offset some of that fee.
Plus, if he is worth £35M according to Transfermarkt, then how much will that drop if he doesn't play for a year, or at least until January? Add that drop to the £8M.
So, much as I would (as a Blue) want him to just waste away as a lesson, I think (as an accountant) we should take a loan if we can get one.
Not easy being a senior executive at Everton – damned if you do, damned if you don't!
13 Posted 26/08/2021 at 19:50:34
Well explained, a right Catch-22 situation really unless a team wants to buy Kean.
Is there a team out there who really wants him enough?
14 Posted 26/08/2021 at 19:54:43
Best thing is another loan and hope he has a good season and then hopefully sell at close to what we paid. I wouldn't count his season at PSG as a success.
15 Posted 26/08/2021 at 20:16:10
I think this could be the busiest last 2 days to a transfer window ever if Mbappé moves, which I'd be surprised if he doesn't (£145M now or free in 12 months) that will start a rollercoaster of activity. There will be a few big-money moves but I'm expecting a lot of loans with options to buy as Covid-19 has had a huge financial impact.
I'm expecting James to leave, obviously he's not in the manager's plans but he does want to play in the World Cup for his country. I think that will give him the push to go to another club on reduced wages.
The big one from our club's point of view is do PSG want Richarlison?? If they do, then we have to play hardball and get as much money in as possible. I'm hoping we've got feelers out about a few players as this could all happen on the final day...
16 Posted 26/08/2021 at 20:32:15
17 Posted 26/08/2021 at 20:51:26
Yeah, he was a fool for getting himself sent off but, if you didn't see a player in there, you weren't looking properly.
No cut-priced deals please.
18 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:06:22
Or he might be part of a last week exodus that sees us hanging on till Bramley Moore, treading water.
19 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:09:01
It's no good keeping him otherwise; so, if we can't sell, let's take a decent loan fee and sub his wages out to someone else.
20 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:22:48
21 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:27:02
If we loan him out again, l am going to punch myself in the face.
If we buy Maupay, l will pull out my front 2 teeth and ask for them back at Xmas.
If Rafa is ever our manager... oh shit.
22 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:36:02
Thatll be good for morale, assuming he doesnt go and will be expected to regularly deputise for Mina and others, especially after he was captain last night against Huddersfield.
23 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:46:02
What happened to going and proving someone wrong? It seems a long time since Everton had this type of footballer in our club, but I suppose its also a long time since we existed to win.
24 Posted 26/08/2021 at 21:50:20
Now people may argue "He scored – so what?" Well, against Man City in Paris, he found himself on the edge of the box with a gilt-edged opportunity to pick out the top corner; instead, he ballooned it into Row Z... and therein lies the problem – he doesn't have the basic skills to be composed.
Unquestionably quick and powerful, he will make a living but he's a bit "meh" with the ball at his feet – similar to Romelu Lukaku really. Unfortunately there are no signs of Kean having the intelligence or mental resolve of Rom to adapt and prove doubters wrong.
The fact is, he is a £25M player – we need to cut our losses and accept that reality.
25 Posted 26/08/2021 at 22:06:25
26 Posted 26/08/2021 at 22:15:44
27 Posted 26/08/2021 at 22:24:00
28 Posted 26/08/2021 at 22:50:05
Does this then help us with our FFP situation? Allowing us to buy players???
29 Posted 26/08/2021 at 22:57:02
30 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:06:46
31 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:18:21
If Rhian Brewster is worth £24M and Solanke worth £19M, then a current Italy international who scored 17 goals for PSG last season is worth double the £25M quoted.
32 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:20:34
Funnily enough, he would think himself above the likes of Aston Villa or West Ham but we should keep our fingers crossed because they would be offering us more than those European giants. How much did Villa pay for Ollie Watkins?
Sack Brands and give the job to Bill Kenwright, that's what l say. (Hello, Don, how's the blood pressure???)
33 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:32:48
34 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:34:52
But if (as seems likely) he will just sit on the bench, then there's not much point. He wants and needs to be playing and I'd rather have an absolute pro on the bench who trains damn hard every week in anticipation of those 5-10 minutes he may get.
In terms of price, I think the market has been hit at the lower ends and, whereas he may have fetched £30-40M pre-Covid, perhaps £25-30M is about right now.
If he's desperate to leave, then let him go.
35 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:48:06
If Liverpool can get £20M for their reserves, we should be looking at £40M for someone who's actually proved he can score at a decent level.
Either buy him or do one.
36 Posted 26/08/2021 at 23:53:07
If Kean is so desperate to leave, best let him go but, if on loan, have a guaranteed minimum buy-out clause at the end of the loan term; otherwise, he comes back. Minimum £25M perhaps.
37 Posted 26/08/2021 at 00:06:04
As said above, he has already played for 2 of Europe's elite clubs and represented Italy. And the clubs he's been linked with are again, of that status.
Stephen Brown; a combination of the bizarre premium you pay for English players because, well, they're English!! And maybe further demonstration of good transfer strategy by you know who. Based on your figures, I make it then got a return of £43M for an outlay of about £2 or £3M.
And I don't even think Brewster player for them at senior level!!
If you didn't laugh, you'd cry!
It does frustrate me though and why currently, I'm a big advocate of shopping on the continent, not in the Premier League or following the myth of must have Premier League experience.
38 Posted 27/08/2021 at 00:26:58
You and Jay #5 need to understand that there's no way Weston McKennie is or was ever coming to Everton. He wanted only Champions League football. He got it at Juventus and there's no way he'll leave until after the World Cup – and it won't be to us.
39 Posted 27/08/2021 at 00:33:56
40 Posted 27/08/2021 at 01:25:31
Okay, he is young and he might improve... but, on the other hand, he might be another Royston Drenthe.
41 Posted 27/08/2021 at 01:31:55
That said, the sheer buffoonery of signing Kean for the fee we paid deserves examination. From what anyone can deduce from today's circumstances, we're now in a position where we need to find a boardroom somewhere in the world with at least the same level of ineptitude we've been displaying to the world of football for 30 years minimum. This has been exacerbated admittedly since the now very dubious (to me) Farhad Moshiri enhanced the role of our serially unsuccessful chairman, in the pathetic hope that Kean leaving us doesn't show, yet again to the world of avaricious agents and players, that we're the only club on the planet to willingly and repeatedly drop our kecks to the extent we provably do, lean over a barrel of the selling buying club's choice, and invite them to roger us as and when they see fit.
And they have, and will do again, until we get proper staff in the effin' boardroom and elsewhere in Finch Farm.
42 Posted 27/08/2021 at 02:21:51
Superb at Juventus last season for Pirlo, but Allegri reportedly doesn't fancy him. He'd be a natural for the Premier League. Given his $35M price tag, I'd expect Spurs might be his next destination.
43 Posted 27/08/2021 at 04:51:14
44 Posted 27/08/2021 at 07:31:23
If his heart isn't at Everton, then cash in and move on.
45 Posted 27/08/2021 at 08:20:59
Usually I'm a big believer that with players at this level, if they're not performing, they just need the right style of play, right management, right opportunities.
But I see Moise Kean as one of those rare exceptions. A guy who had a massive reputation as a very young player and is just nowhere near that level as a senior.
From watching him, I've seen really poor movement, terrible body language, poor decisions, and limited technique. I don't see anything in him that we couldn't pick up from lower leagues. Is he even quick?
I'll bet he scores a few in Europe playing for the dominant team in that league but will never really be a top striker. I'll be happy to have him gone.
46 Posted 27/08/2021 at 09:47:00
47 Posted 27/08/2021 at 09:51:08
If Richarlison does go, then the club might have their eyes on who they can buy with the money we raise, if we're trapped by the Premier League finance rules and don't have the funds now to buy a right back and maybe another centre half.
Again, if Richarlison goes, we'll need another centre-forward unless, Dobbin or Simms are ready for first-team action.
I don't think that, if Kean stays, he could last a season as a regular in the team (even if he wanted to stay, which seems doubtful). He's played where great players can set him up all day long and I think he'd prefer a bit of that again. Here, it'd be a bit of a slog.
If we sell Richarlison and Kean, as both seem like they want to leave, it gives us some leeway to bring in players that the manager sees will benefit the squad.
Final if! If clubs come in for Richarlison on a loan, I hope the club refuse to let him leave without a commitment to buy.
48 Posted 27/08/2021 at 10:01:13
49 Posted 27/08/2021 at 10:15:09
Kean, no worries... hardly features anyhow. But Richarlison, all-day running up and down, scoring goals and helping in defense... I don't think we are in that position to get an 'equivalent' replacement under such short notice.
Last season, we played with Calvert-Lewin as a lone striker. Once Calvert-Lewin got injured, our goal scoring ability evaporated... Should history repeat itself, our 2021-22 season will be a lower mid-table finish.
50 Posted 27/08/2021 at 10:21:48
He won't be missed from the involvement he's had since he's been here, even though he may turn out to be a very good striker.
Richarlison is another matter altogether. I think he's as good as irreplaceable. I'll be gutted if he goes before the end of this window because any replacement(s), if there even was one brought in, would be nowhere near Richarlison's quality.
51 Posted 27/08/2021 at 10:46:33
God, it's hard being an Evertonian.
52 Posted 27/08/2021 at 11:34:58
You don't think we'll continue bringing them in on frees then?
53 Posted 27/08/2021 at 12:29:22
On another note, Zouma going to West Ham for £25M... how I wish we were bringing him back! Him and Godfrey at the back would be excellent.
54 Posted 27/08/2021 at 13:08:26
Kean can go – he and we are not a good fit.
55 Posted 27/08/2021 at 13:42:17
Regarding Moise Kean, I like the suggestion made above that if Juventus are keen on taking him on loan with an obligation to buy, we should have a player in exchange from Juve on similar terms – like Rabiot or McKennie.
56 Posted 27/08/2021 at 14:07:01
I missed the cup game as I was away from home, so only just caught the highlights... but yes, I agree with you: huge potential in Kean and for us to be cutting our losses, essentially breaking even by selling him on the cheap, does not sit well with me.
I think he's improved a lot from his stint in France. Has all the makings of a top striker and no reason he won't kick on back at Juventus. The lad could be worth a lot of money in 2 years.
It's disheartening to see him quoted at £35M on TransferMarkt (which is his base value) and we could be offloading him for a big chunk less than that? I'd rather keep him and see if Rafa can get a tune out of the player.
I'm also reading that Nkounkou could be sent on loan in Belgium. Not a bad idea in itself, but would require us to sign a backup for Digne. Not sure with all our other needs that this makes sense. Nkounkou looks great going forward and is blazingly fast. Okay, maybe his defending is suspect, but surely rather than looking for yet another incoming player, we should retain, work on his defending, and get him games playing on the left?
57 Posted 27/08/2021 at 14:07:31
I know these things can change quicker than a politician's excuse but, if we take his word, I don't see us selling.
Not this window anyway. It makes no sense at this stage.
But we're Everton!
58 Posted 27/08/2021 at 14:18:53
Reports are really all over the place, sometimes we're linked with class players, sometimes for youngsters that don't seem likely to feature much and then there's the bang average, usually for inflated fees. Tough to gauge which is real and which fantasy.
We could easily end up with no Rodriguez, Richarlison or Kean and whoever we can bring in will have a lot of responsibility to make up for those losses.
59 Posted 27/08/2021 at 18:01:40
60 Posted 27/08/2021 at 00:00:36
Everton should have kept stum about their ffp, acted dumb, and then appealed for spending above our means, and took a £3 million fine, for breaking the rules, like the dirty dozen.
61 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:19:12
62 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:23:25
63 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:37:36
Were are you getting this guys ? I cant find it
The problem is, everyone knows our situation and will find it easy to play hard ball with us
64 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:42:03
65 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:46:29
Or we've lost a load...
66 Posted 28/08/2021 at 12:53:10
67 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:19:42
Even if a promising player fails, we still get money back. If a 28 year old fails, we wait for his contract to expire and get nothing.
68 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:22:24
His book value reduces over the duration of his contract., and 2 years gone already. Sounds ok if the current reports are accurate.
Finally we can start to sign more players, after Ronaldo deal loosened the logjam.
69 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:30:43
Absolutely embarrassing. Why would we sell him on this type of deal rather than loan him out with no obligation to buy and sell him for more next season? Very short sighted.
70 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:37:03
It seems like PSG and all top european clubs understand the reality about Kean and that is he has a hell of a lot to prove before hype becomes reality.
Fingers crossed he becomes a regular starter rather than a squad member as per his time here and at PSG we might get some cash for him then - won't hold my breath though.
Delighted he's gone the chump clearly thought he was better than what he is whereas the reality of his displays have been bang average.
Don't let the door hit you on the arse you gormless twat
71 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:44:10
72 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:49:11
I don't really care whether we get an extra mil or not, I just hope we can now replace him with someone who will actually contribute to the first team
Diaz looks set, so fingers crossed he works out.
He looks like the type we hope Brands would bring - young, exciting and with potential from a minor league. If he scores 7-10 goals he'll triple his value in 2 seasons.
73 Posted 28/08/2021 at 13:54:34
Frankly as much as I see some talent in Moise, his attitude and body language says it all. For Everton its getting the best option to cut their losses.
Italy didnt rate him, PSG, didnt want to buy him, and Everton couldnt find a position for him.
If only some club would come in for Delph...
Arrivederci, Moise Kean.
74 Posted 28/08/2021 at 14:13:08
75 Posted 28/08/2021 at 14:23:06
So if true, then Keans fee of £27M would be spread over 5 years at about £5.5m per year, with his book value diminishing each year by this amount. So after 2 years his book value would be about £16M now. Lets say for convenience £17M.
If his loan spell is for 2 more years, his book value by then would be £5.5M. If he has cost nothing last year and PSG paid a loan fee and he costs nothing the next 2 years, then we may be receiving £17M then against a lower book value.
This would please the bean counters, who are the people you need to please with FFP related matters.
Of course all the above could be bollocks, since were not privy to the details, but it might just be a clever deal..
76 Posted 28/08/2021 at 14:34:55
Lools like Moshiri has given up on cracking the top 4 right now and is settling on staying in the division till our income lets us compete.
77 Posted 28/08/2021 at 14:45:57
78 Posted 30/08/2021 at 21:31:57
Also Rondon deal progressing but no bid made for Daniel James.
79 Posted 30/08/2021 at 21:57:56
80 Posted 30/08/2021 at 22:03:49
81 Posted 30/08/2021 at 22:18:40
It looks like Daniel James is joining Leeds for £30M.
82 Posted 30/08/2021 at 22:35:18
"I said earlier these are all so-called European giants interested in him."
You were wrong then and are wrong now. Surely you understand paper talk is no gauge of serious interest the offer of hard cash is the only arbiter of serious interest and no one wanted to deal.
Get over it man we had to loan him out to get shut the facts are irrefutable.
83 Posted 30/08/2021 at 22:45:23
Have to say I agree though that there didn't seem to be a queue of European giants vying to buy/loan/buy him, or anyone else for that matter.
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