Turkish clubs are still able to bring players in but the window slams shut next week and the Istanbul club who were 2019-20 Super Lig champions are supposedly keen to close the deal before then.
The sticking point, of course, will be wages paid to Everton's Columbian wizard, whose remuneration is said to be at least £200k per week, and he has thus far shown no interest in reducing his pay in order to secure playing time away from Merseyside.
His position at Everton remains unclear, with Rafa Benitez acknowledging his presence and the player finally back training with the first team after isolating due to Covid-19 protocols.
But when it comes to matchday, Benitez is thought to be reluctant to compromise the defensive integrity of his selected team when they are not in possession, putting in doubt even his selection for the 9-man substitutes bench, which Everton were unable to fill last time out at Brighton & Hove Albion.
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1 Posted 05/09/2021 at 10:49:01
2 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:04:25
3 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:12:33
Financially, I don't see it, as surely we are still going to foot the majority of the wages bill? If we couldn't sell him, why loan him out?
Personally, I hope he stays and sorts whatever previous he has with the manager out. And vice-versa. I want to physically see James play for Everton. And I think the vast majority of Evertonians would love what they see.
4 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:15:24
Unfair? Maybe, but history shows he isn't going to bust a gut for a living. Maybe he doesn't need to, that's how good he is.
I do wish people would stop assuming his wage, we don't know what it is. When he first arrived, it was widely reported he was on £90k a week and Brands was a frickin' legend for negotiating that. Now it might be £200k but we don't know.
The James - Everton story is a sad representation of the modern game.
5 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:26:04
Just as Bolasie and Besic did, they saw out their contracts and we never received a penny in transfer fee for either. There are a few on our books who will stay to the last day of their contracts because nobody else will pay them the money we are.
No wonder we have FFP problems the way this club has been run and all this has happened on Moshiri's watch. Let's hope the FFP has taught him a lesson, Leicester have done everything he wanted to achieve at Everton – won the Premier Keague and the FA Cup and more than balanced their books in the process.
6 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:27:30
7 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:27:33
8 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:37:13
He needs to have alternative solutions in the squad so he can adopt different tactics as needed.
9 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:40:23
I think the player needs bringing back into the fold and an arm around him, Papa Carlo style. He needs telling he is going to be used in a strategic way for Everton this year that benefits us and him to the maximum. He can get us more wins if he is fighting fit and motivated, whilst getting himself a guaranteed pass for World Cup selection next summer.
For it to happen Benitez and Rodriguez will have to build bridges and trust in each other. Sadly, I fear that possibility may have gone past the point of no return.
10 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:53:31
And if we can use a talent like James sparingly, then he wins us games. I know many, myself included, keep pointing to the Derby, but if he only plays half the matches and does that, I'll be happy.
11 Posted 05/09/2021 at 11:57:53
Spotrac say £90k per week... but they are apparently unreliable if what was posted about Calvert-Lewin's new contract taking him well above £20k (£75k) per week has any truth to it. As you say, we just don't know.
But very few other sources are using that Spotrac number. The Echo (I know, I know) cites £200k per week in just about every story that mentions him. Now if that was way off the mark, you'd think someone at EFC would have a word with them lads and lasses down in St Paul's Square, you know... in the interests of openness and transparency *cough*, *splutter*.
No, you're absolutely right: we just don't know.
12 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:03:09
However, I dont see why we should indulge him / if he aint fit, just like the Colombian coachs decision, he shouldnt play if thats the case. Thats my view whether or not Rafa is manager.
13 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:08:56
If we sell him, or send him on loan, then Benitez is no fool, he will not forego the lad's talent. If we keep him, it will be because Rodriguez has convinced him, and the players, that he can fit into the team game.
14 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:10:53
My thought at the time was hes getting the same wedge, but over 2 years instead of 1, plus theres an option of a further year. That sounds like a win-win, especially considering hes got a great relationship with Carlo.
Some of the sites who compile such wage data show his contract as £180k. Separately it shows duration of the contract as 2 years. I wonder if some teenage scribblers have misread it, the rest just blindly reproducing it.
The £200k is a relatively recent appearance, but we dont know for sure, as said above.
Maybe image rights?
15 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:16:41
I would think Everton "having a word" is the last thing the club would lower themselves to do.
Anyway, it's not 'our' – so meh!
16 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:31:07
I'll focus on the footballer. I hope I get to see him play against Burnley and if not, against Norwich.
17 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:52:59
18 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:55:33
19 Posted 05/09/2021 at 12:57:55
Players agents are always wanting moves to happen because of money. It's a living but greed is rife. That's a sad fact of life especially in the ''entertainment'' industry.
I don't blame the players as their careers can be short at the top and they don't all become second-rate commentators like Gary Neville and Carragher.
The only important things worth talking about are the players performances and the team's results. I really don't give a toss about off the field dealings.
20 Posted 05/09/2021 at 13:01:07
He scored goals and is a player many Evertonians can't remember since Kanchelskis (an equal highly paid temporary fixture). Or the quality that many Evertonians haven't seen. I hope they get to.
If we want to point the finger at those soaking up wages and not giving anything back, Fabian Delph springs to mind more than James Rodriguez in my mind.
21 Posted 05/09/2021 at 13:09:57
22 Posted 05/09/2021 at 13:58:30
Rafa is right about him, effort and commitment come first.
23 Posted 05/09/2021 at 14:17:45
24 Posted 05/09/2021 at 14:26:56
For example the young and handsome JFK remains an icon of American politics despite being a monumental twat... and James strikes me as similar. His gorgeous technique blinds the entranced to his incompleteness. Hardly any pace and not keen on defence or the physical, he compounds woes by having a proclivity for taking time off.
He is a 17th Century dandy, a workshy fop of style but questionable substance – traits of failure that did for him at Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Of what use is genius if sitting at home or on a jet arsing around on social media when the action is elsewhere?
And he's either a bit dim or incredibly arrogant.
At most clubs (especially this one), if you butter up the fans, you can get away with murder... but soft lad doesn't seem to have grasped this and, worse still, shows no intention of wanting to. All-in-all, everything looks like it has to be on his terms or it's no deal. Not what you want if building a team. If Benitez laid out these home truths at Real Madrid and sees the same issues here, he has no option but to bin him.
Love the fella's ability and not in favour of shooting him in a dark alley but it isn't happening for him so it's time to say "Adios".
25 Posted 05/09/2021 at 14:33:57
26 Posted 05/09/2021 at 14:54:18
27 Posted 05/09/2021 at 15:00:07
No worries there, Barry. Rodriguez never gets involved in any rough or tough places or situations.
28 Posted 05/09/2021 at 15:02:14
Many a true word said in jest - nice one
29 Posted 05/09/2021 at 16:13:35
Drink the booze and have a dry October.
30 Posted 05/09/2021 at 16:57:55
The players currently playing in the starting 11 all want to play for Everton.
31 Posted 05/09/2021 at 16:58:22
Because, if it doesn't, there'd be no point in loaning him coz we can't use the money to bring anyone else in, can we?
Not unless we try'n get someone in January.
James isn't likely to go to Turkey though... Be like Tom Cruise going the Grafton!
32 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:06:38
I'd understand if we had moved him on before the end of the transfer window, because we could have brought in a replacement, but to lose a player of his calibre and probably still have to pay a percentage of his wages doesn't make sense. He's a class act and the fans at Goodison would definitely spur him on.
33 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:08:13
34 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:17:32
35 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:29:04
I have to wonder if you've seen that comment in the way it was meant. 🤣
36 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:29:36
Benitez appreciates skill, he brought in Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia and Robbie Keane, all skilful players... but grafters too.
James has got loads of skill but has he got the will to graft and fit into a team pattern? Benitez isn't going to cut off his nose to spite his face; I think he'll use anyone that's on the playing staff, if they will give the team an edge.
As for Delph, well, the same goes with him. If he gets fit and can contribute to the team, then Benitez will use him.
As far as I'm concerned, if Benitez doesn't play either as regular first-team players, it's because he thinks there's better available at the time.
I'd love to see him too, but I think it's a dangerous road to travel if fans demand a player to play, no matter who it is.
37 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:35:45
38 Posted 05/09/2021 at 17:52:05
39 Posted 05/09/2021 at 19:18:40
We're off to a nice start, but let's be real here - we're light on genuine creativity and have almost zero depth. Anything less than three points against Burnley and the good vibes will start to sour. We don't have the luxury of spurning a player like James when he's under contract. Benitez needs to figure out how to make it work, that's what he's paid for.
40 Posted 05/09/2021 at 19:31:07
Tom Cruise‘s quest to get a 2 am taxi outside the Grafton.
41 Posted 05/09/2021 at 19:51:33
I bet if you brought on Delph when we are winning, nine times out of 10 we will draw or lose.
42 Posted 05/09/2021 at 00:13:15
All things considered, even if his salary is £10 million a year, and we end up covering half of that this year if he fancies a loan to Turkey, then wed be down £15 million on the James Rodriguez experiment. The lack of a transfer fee was always going to mean that the downside was always going to be paying his fat salary for 2 years - and when you consider what we lost (in transfer fees and wages) on players like Bolasie and Schneiderlin, as well as the inflated salaries of non-achievers like Sandro and Bernard, I think James was definitely a risk worth taking.
Maybe Benitez will decide to keep and utilise James this season, but if he goes out on loan then so be it; saving that £5 million (or so) makes sense if he is not considered to be fit/focused/ready to contribute.
43 Posted 06/09/2021 at 02:53:45
I'm talking about Duncan McKenzie, a guy still held as a legend by some of us despite having only been adept at waltzing runs right across the pitch in a derby whilst allowing the opposition to re-organise their defence, oh, and being able to jump over a Mini car.
James Rodriguez, by his present-day stance re club (us) non-availability in favour of private jets for a home country who see right through him, is a luxury we cannot afford.
Courtesy of our inept owner/board we're embroiled in a football world of hard graft rather than fanciful craft, if he ever feels like it.
44 Posted 06/09/2021 at 04:01:02
If the rest of Gray's season turned to crap as of now, as rough as it would be on our hopes and expectations, we could live with it based purely on what we paid and are paying him versus the return we got. The difference with James, as Andrew #42 mentions above, is the overall outlay over the course of their contracts. We'll all have our own opinions with the value of hindsight.
45 Posted 06/09/2021 at 04:51:29
James on the other hand, based on that same criteria, still owes us. Hence this loan, get rid, keep & try to get the best out of him debate.
46 Posted 06/09/2021 at 11:49:39
47 Posted 06/09/2021 at 16:48:30
48 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:10:32
49 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:12:24
50 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:25:59
51 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:32:50
52 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:45:06
53 Posted 06/09/2021 at 18:06:08
I can't see him being blasé or stupid enough to openly flaunt his time away if he still had a relationship with the club. His fitness will clearly nosedive and he would be heavily fined if he was simply taking the piss.
If I was a ridiculously overpaid sportsman and my club had just told me to take gardening leave then I wouldn't be sitting on my arse in my back garden either.
54 Posted 06/09/2021 at 18:07:19
55 Posted 06/09/2021 at 18:53:40
He comes across as a likeable chap but neither he nor his agent are doing themselves any favours. Get him to Finch Farm, get him fit, get him involved and get it sorted!!
56 Posted 06/09/2021 at 19:04:47
I do agree however it is a mess and an avoidable one. Carlo really fucked us, didn't he! Fair play to Rafa for taking on this mess and (so far) getting a tune out of the players.
57 Posted 06/09/2021 at 19:06:13
58 Posted 06/09/2021 at 20:17:10
Where did it all go wrong James?
59 Posted 06/09/2021 at 20:26:08
The photo of him on his private jet, while his team mates were getting smashed at City, still grates with me, along with the cold winter months of many a missed game by him, and the not knowing who we were playing.
Now we have him sat on the back of a yacht, puffing on a vape, with a couple of birds for company.
We now have some players who are making a big difference and starting to pull trees up, have a quicker tempo attacking.
Whether James plays again or not I do not care one bit, I am more than happy with the current setup, for me James need to step up, stay fit, and certainly put a lot more effort in to convince me otherwise.
60 Posted 06/09/2021 at 23:06:33
As for another Turkish loan, no chance. Do they want us to financially compensate them too!
61 Posted 07/09/2021 at 00:36:54
We are talking about the highest elite level. Players know where they stand in the team and I am sure other players can see what James can do and can't do and won't blame him for not defending hard enough. It sounds like we're talking about high school teams that focus on efforts rather than winning. Even Messi is free and willing to join Everton, surely we'll reject him.
62 Posted 07/09/2021 at 08:15:45
Rather than getting fit on the training ground after missing 4 games already, he was sunning himself on a yacht in the Med.
His commitment was all there to see on the private jet at the end of last season, whilst games were still being played.
63 Posted 07/09/2021 at 10:08:12
64 Posted 07/09/2021 at 10:52:35
Is there is still a deal to be done on him going to Porto on loan now in return for Diaz in January or next summer ? The transfer value of Diaz could be negotiated and adjusted to make the James loan deal happen. Also James may be motivated to take some kind of wage cut to be happy and to be playing somewhere where he is wanted by the manager.
65 Posted 07/09/2021 at 11:04:35
I think this yacht episode is just further evidence of his nonrelationship with Benitez, which you can see in the cold way Benitez talks about him. No warmth whatsoever. They just don't like each other.
I don't think this is the last of James, I think he will make sporadic appearances as a sub, and will be anonymous cos he ain't motivated anymore. The problem is, if you want to use him, you have to build the whole team around him, like we did last year, and even then it ain't great that often, as we know. He's a wonderful player, but as long as he isn't prepared to run, he creates a vulnerability for us that other teams will seize.
66 Posted 07/09/2021 at 11:13:41
Either that or, despite the fact that he's a bit of a genius when it comes to football, outside of that he's a bit of a knobhead.
67 Posted 07/09/2021 at 11:18:19
68 Posted 07/09/2021 at 12:49:42
If you had worked hard all week and were given a long weekend off, and were on £200k a week, what would you do? Sitting on a yacht would be right up there for me.
Not defending everything James is done or doing, but this is nothing.
69 Posted 07/09/2021 at 14:28:25
70 Posted 07/09/2021 at 15:59:14
71 Posted 07/09/2021 at 16:18:08
72 Posted 07/09/2021 at 16:53:01
73 Posted 07/09/2021 at 17:27:09
The words nose, face, spite, two goalkeepers and bench come to mind.
74 Posted 07/09/2021 at 17:38:51
Perhaps James and Jack Wilshere can start up a futbol del playa league for the continental playahs!
75 Posted 07/09/2021 at 17:49:25
We have a player in Rodriguez who has something many others don't, ie: a bit of vision. It's true he doesn't look like he'll give us much in the way of 'spadework' (tracking back, throwing tackles in etc) but I suppose you could argue Allan won't give us much in the way of defence-splitting pin-point passes (no criticism of Allan, just making an obvious point).
These days (I'm 62) I don't really get too hung-up about who arrives or leaves and understand they're professional sportsmen with greedy agents who are constantly looking to increase the length of contracts or move their players on (any 'romantic' notions I had about players and Everton ended when Rooney went to Utd).
However what does drive me to distraction is Everton 'doing a Niasse'.
It's clear that the best professional football players (or for Sky Sports viewers, 'top top players') exist in a rarified world. They're staggeringly well-paid and though 'adults', often appear mentally frail. That's not really a criticism of them as individuals, just a natural by-product of spending all one's time with a group of indulged wealthy sportsmen.
The clubs who pay them are interested only in results and usually whatever keeps the players happy makes sense.
Bill (spit!) Shankly spent much of his career mentally building up players so they'd run through walls for him.
So here's what I don't understand about the (apparent) treatment of Rodriguez.
Why the seeming hostility and cold shoulder from within?
What if the opposite had been tried?
Praise, praise, flattery, praise.
If we get a bid that suits everyone, fine, let him go, take the money etc, but until then, make the feller feel ten-feet tall.
All this hard-case stuff about training away from the first team, no squad number, no locker (whatever goes on) is just dumb and self-defeating. Once a player has signed a contract, anything other than playing nice is dumb and self-defeating - remember Winston Bogarde.
As for the player's ability, any Everton supporter genuinely doubting his talent imo doesn't have a clue.
"Yeah but what about his commitment?"
What about Everton's?
Just a thought.
76 Posted 07/09/2021 at 18:12:12
77 Posted 07/09/2021 at 18:45:13
78 Posted 07/09/2021 at 19:13:28
I think Benitez expected James to be gone in this just "slammed shut" window. He didn't go, Benitez won't back down, so a Mexican (or in this case a Spanish/Colombian) standoff has ensued.
This one is a lose-lose as far as we the supporters and the club are concerned, I feel because James will only go exactly where he wants to on exactly the terms he wants.
I think he's here until his contract runs out in the summer unless he gets it paid off or partly paid off by the club to do one. I don't think we'll see him play for Everton again.
79 Posted 07/09/2021 at 20:04:49
Seems Benitez has no intention of playing James and he isn't the least bothered, but Everton are contracted to pay him £200k per week or whatever till his contract ends. He will turn up at training, will do whatever is necessary to fulfil his contractual agreements. He wont leave till a deal is struck that suits him and that won't happen till January at the earliest.
But having a player at the club who is not likely to be picked can't do team morale any good, and to think how desperate we all were when he signed to be able to see him play live at Goodison.
Maybe our owner needs to get both Benitez and James in a room and tell them to grow up and put their differences aside for the good of the club. As nothing can happen till January to help resolve the problem.
80 Posted 07/09/2021 at 20:41:13
Then we will find out just how much of a fuck the Colombian gives...
81 Posted 07/09/2021 at 21:00:59
I heard only yesterday that Rodriguez had been brilliant in training towards the end of last week, and it was the best Benitez had ever seen James train, including when they were at Madrid together.
If true, this will be a kick in the teeth to the manager, and also to the club who pay him an absolute fortune every week. Rodriguez has so far figured in 52% of the games that Everton have played since he signed for the club, and it would have been nice to see him figure in another 52%, but not with an attitude that appears to have total disregard towards Everton Football Club, if it's true that he will now have to self-isolate.
82 Posted 07/09/2021 at 21:32:42
On the last day of the season at Man City, he showed a lack of respect for the club and he has continued this season with his silly comments about not knowing who they play on Saturday.
If he was vaping on that yacht, he is an idiot. He should look at his ex-teammate Ronaldo: at 36, he conducts himself with total professionalism.
83 Posted 07/09/2021 at 22:26:19
84 Posted 07/09/2021 at 22:32:29
85 Posted 07/09/2021 at 22:51:35
When Benitez was replaced by Zidane, that's when James got dropped – and hard, barely featuring for the rest of the season and not much the following season until finally joining Bayern on loan in 2017.
So I think Rafa will select Rodriguez if he performs well in training.
As for the yacht, I believe the players were given a long weekend off. Allan was apparently in Disneyland with his family. I don't see why James would have to isolate if he's just been in Spain.
86 Posted 07/09/2021 at 22:52:47
Sorry, but as much as I like his talent, I am with Rafa all the way on this twit. Wankers are wankers, talented or not.
87 Posted 07/09/2021 at 23:04:05
The manager has to be the boss and the club will stand by the boss before they stand by the player.
88 Posted 08/09/2021 at 01:10:26
89 Posted 08/09/2021 at 02:03:11
He's scored 97 goals in those games, not quite one in three, and a good number of those were in leagues of lesser repute than ours. He's forever therefore been the "nearly" guy who might just take his next club to a level above their norm. But he provably never does that, hence he's moved out.
Alternatively he might just be a talented cynical dickhead who's only interest is himself, whose regard for whoever employs him is akin to my regard for the pair of used skiddies I throw into my laundry basket each night.
Yet he's now 30 years old.
90 Posted 08/09/2021 at 04:15:44
You can have your own opinion of what he did on an aircraft to South America but if you think he could have played that game then you are saying that Everton lied which does not seem to be the case. As for "vaping" on a yacht, Ray Wilson was a pack a day man and Roy Vernon was known to have one in the shower and reputedly put one out on the pitch in the warm-up. Grow up, even rich people do daft things.
91 Posted 08/09/2021 at 11:02:11
Perhaps if James adopted an approach of “I will show him” rather than chilling on a yacht, he might be taken more seriously by the manager. I know he is entitled to a break if the club allows it and he avoids Covid problem areas but he just doesn't seem that bothered to me. He is in danger of disappearing into the “nearly great” category and, for me, he has done very little to justify his reputation since the 2014 World Cup.
The aforementioned Duncan McKenzie produced moments of skill, which I would suggest were beyond James's ability but a succession of managers could not build a team around him to function with a luxury player.
92 Posted 08/09/2021 at 11:17:20
He has just returned from an amber list country so, unless he has recently been double-jabbed, he will have to self-isolate once again. Let's wait and see if he's pictured in training today.
Surely our club would have cautioned those being given time off and who had not been double-jabbed against visiting anything other than a green-list country?
93 Posted 08/09/2021 at 11:40:34
94 Posted 08/09/2021 at 11:42:07
He's put up impressive attacking stats in every league he's been in, with the sole exception of his last season at Real Madrid, when he barely played under Zidane. He put up monster numbers in Portugal and France, which are high-standard leagues. He led the French league in assists and was in the team of the season.
People were excited about the prospect of us signing Luis Diaz from Porto and were gutted it didn't come off. Diaz is an exciting player, probably still improving, but James was not only much better when in Portugal, he was also 2 years younger than Diaz is now, when he left for Monaco.
He was named best midfielder in Spain after his first season, despite missing 2 months with a broken foot.
At Everton, despite playing for a team that put up garbage attacking stats his personal numbers were still impressive. Just in raw goals and assists terms, he contributed to a goal every other match.
The idea that he's some kind of nearly-man is baffling.
That a story is going around this morning that Everton have agreed a deal with the Turkish team to send him on loan whilst paying most of his wages is perverse. Thankfully, it appears that Rodriguez is blocking the "deal" going through.
It sums up Everton as an institution, that we can somehow get a player of his ability at the club, not have had any fans actually see him live playing in a blue shirt, and be falling all over themselves negotiating an embarrassing deal to force him out the door. Jesus wept.
95 Posted 08/09/2021 at 11:47:15
ALL the players were given a long weekend off after training all last week. As I mentioned above, Allan was at Disneyland, for example.
Apart from the spurious claim from March that he'll have to isolate 2 weeks, I've heard nothing to suggest any truth in this. As far as I'm aware, he'll be training today at Finch Farm.
96 Posted 08/09/2021 at 12:17:02
97 Posted 08/09/2021 at 13:17:10
98 Posted 08/09/2021 at 14:25:21
If the player himself had shown that he really wanted to be here, then I'm sure fans would be behind him. But he hasn't. He even said when we played Leeds that he didn't know who we were playing. Sounds like a committed player. He probably was given time off this week, but why not stay at Finch Farm and get himself ready for Monday? No, he goes on holiday... smoking!
99 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:07:39
Hah, it's supposed to read "Marca"! Typing without my glasses on, plus TW wouldn't allow me to edit the post. 😕
100 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:25:02
Did any of the first team stay at Finch Farm? How about the coaching staff?
I'm not a fan of athletes vaping, but what he does in his off time is his business tbh. It's only because he is a massive superstar in Spanish-speaking countries that he's had his pic snapped via telephoto lense. Other than hearing that Allan was on holiday with his family I have no idea what any of the other 20+ players have been up to, so they are non-stories.
He did come off as a bit of an arse suggesting he didn't know who Everton were playing, this is true.
But other than translated exchanges from Twitch, paparazzi photos and third-hand opinions on what he, Rafa etc want, and that people are fuming about, what do we actually know?
1. The club want to sell him, due to his large wage, which they awarded him only 12 months ago.
2. He has been ineligible for selection so far this season due to Covid protocols.
3. He's been training with the team as soon as he was permitted.
4. He's made no public statements saying he wants a transfer and in fact has turned down at least one offer (Porto).
5. Benitez has given no indication that he won't be selected when available. He has a squad number.
Everything else other than those 5 points are supposition, people reading into things that may not be there
Let's see if Benitez actually picks the lad, and how he plays if picked?
101 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:29:31
Perhaps you will be proved right and the lad has simply made a few social media gaffes. We will see if Rafa picks him over the next few games.
If we see James get a cameo and he shows desire and commitment, then I will be quick to admit I was wrong but my reading of the situation is that the guy doesn't want to play for us. Carlo abandoned ship, leaving him in a bit of a pickle.
102 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:33:59
103 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:45:42
104 Posted 08/09/2021 at 16:46:53
Hopefully Monday when we hammer Burnley!
105 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:13:31
In nearly every game I saw James play last season, he worked hard. Maybe not as much defensively, but the amount of ground he often covered to get on the ball put a lot of players to shame. He would constantly drop back to his own half to try and start a move, be available for a few passes and be up top looking for the end of the move.
I say we give him a chance.
106 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:26:35
107 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:36:46
Spot on for me.
Somethings are just priceless, like the look on James's face when Richarlison put the ball into the net at the Kop end. Fucking joy. Watch James's celebrations after that goal, he knows what it means to Evertonians.
That boy gives us something special and he's here for another year, so let's milk it
108 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:43:55
When I go the Burnley game on Monday, I would love to see Rodriguez playing at Goodison in an Everton jersey.
109 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:50:22
Just a glimpse of that #19 shirt on the pitch will have me dancing.
110 Posted 08/09/2021 at 17:50:29
James could still offer us something, but freezing them out of the team, no pun intended for James frozen out, is giving them a free reign to put their feet up, pick their wages up for doing nothing.
I would work the bollocks off them; we will not get a transfer fee for either, both will be gone, at the latest, after this season, so, while they are here, make sure they do not get their feet up for the remainder of their contracts.
111 Posted 08/09/2021 at 18:12:20
112 Posted 08/09/2021 at 19:16:05
Hes easily physically intimidated, he scored two goals and had one assist in his last 16 games, he has the heart of a pea. He missed games because he was ‘fatigued. Hes a massively overrated prima donna.
Hes turned down loan deals where he could play some football.
Fuck him, stick him in with the kids and let him see his time out.
113 Posted 08/09/2021 at 19:23:47
Indeed. Great to see some pragmatic Blues not letting emotion get in the way.
For me, you have two types of players: ones that can make things happen and ones that stop things from happening.
James isn't capable of playing his own game and doing what some Evertonians demand which must be chasing down full-backs, booting it into Row Z, steaming into challenges.
But hardly any players on the planet can do what Rodriguez is capable of. His presence alone at Anfield last season put them on the back foot.
But you do need workhorses around him. There's no doubt about that.
114 Posted 08/09/2021 at 19:35:51
Clive bloody Thomas started his love affair with us that day. Sod all wrong with our disallowed goal. Then again, they had a decent one ruled out.
115 Posted 08/09/2021 at 19:38:27
I think most would settle for him expressing and showing a desire to put his boots on.
116 Posted 08/09/2021 at 19:49:37
He played 23 league games last season. And Benitez has not picked him so far this season.
Tell me, Darren, what does ‘desire' look like?
Does it look like Duncan Ferguson getting sent off for strangling someone and leaving his teammates down to 10 men?
117 Posted 08/09/2021 at 21:20:06
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119 Posted 08/09/2021 at 22:12:12
120 Posted 08/09/2021 at 22:34:01
121 Posted 08/09/2021 at 22:46:00
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123 Posted 09/09/2021 at 09:19:56
Maybe they'll make the same mistake as you, Brian, in assuming he's a soft touch because of his appearance or simply because he's foreign?
Of his weaker aspects I don't believe robustness or bottle are amongst them.
124 Posted 09/09/2021 at 10:27:21
Very different situation playing alongside ten of the best players in your country against lowly opposition to playing against Man City, Chelsea, the Red Shite etc etc.
On a different subject, have a look:
125 Posted 09/09/2021 at 10:50:49
There is a definite football brain in him. I'm not by any means saying at the same level, but it would have been interesting to have seen him back in the Premier League, in the right time after regaining his confidence with Werder Bremen in German. Like a certain Kevin De Bruyne, himself not blessed with pace.
Intelligent football, just at Everton at the wrong time in my opinion. I think we'd have grown to like him if he'd been with us under better circumstances.
126 Posted 09/09/2021 at 11:08:48
Even in the European games when facing continental opposition, to which you'd think he'd be more suited, he was woeful.
He was steady in Germany but nothing more.
Conversely DeBruyne was integral to a Wolfsburg team that finished 2nd in the Bundesliga. He was brilliant in a Europa League game at Goodison, awesome in fact.
He got double figures in goals but most tellingly, got 20 assists. Which in a league season is phenomenal. He also starred in a destruction of Bayern Munich that season.
He was simply so good, it was obvious.
127 Posted 09/09/2021 at 16:43:53
128 Posted 10/09/2021 at 14:47:58
129 Posted 10/09/2021 at 17:46:49
De Bruyne and Klaassen are very very different players.
De Bruyne can play pretty much anywhere – centre-midfield, wide midfield, wide up front, false 9 – and has as good a range of passing as anyone in world football, as well as incredible vision and execution.
Klaassen can only really play in an advanced central midfield role, and his game is really made up of quick, short-passing and off-the-ball runs that seem his arriving late and unmarked in the box.
Also, De Bruyne is far from slow – and is very fast when carrying the ball. Klaassen on the other hand is a plodder who is unlikely to ever find his pace carrying him past a player (which is why his off-the-ball running is so good).
130 Posted 10/09/2021 at 18:38:07
I'd like to see a comparison between him and Van de Beek, who we might have got had it not been for FFP. It troubled me being linked also to Maupay. Thank god we are skint... so to speak.
131 Posted 12/09/2021 at 16:08:36
Whilst I'm not a fan of boo boys, or scapegoating a player in gerneral, can I just assure Eugene - and any other potentially worried blue - that Moise was absolute shite against Napoli. Woeful.
All Moise would accomplish by being still here is being disliked by a different set of fans to the ones that dislike him now.
Juventus are off to their worst league start in a generation - one point from three games - and the Juve fans are - perhaps understandably - a bit miffed they swapped the free scoring, eternally youthful all time great Ronaldo for the sulky little shit they thought they'd offloaded to those English idiots for big money years ago.
One swallow doesn't make a spring. And a nicely taken goal against the mighty Lithuania doesn't prove Moise Kean is fit for purpose either Eugene.
132 Posted 12/09/2021 at 16:15:34
Are you fairly new on here?
133 Posted 13/09/2021 at 01:49:29
If this is true then the berk/s who signed him need to be provided with another arsehole courtesy of a sawn-off shotgun.
I'd be amazed if Brands was involved in such a signing because it all smacks of a self-deluded (minor) billionaire once again imposing his very flaky football knowledge on very well-paid employees, who obviously acquiesce on the grounds of very well paid self-interest, and that seems to be the recurring theme for the past 30+ years under you-know-who.
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