Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 - 1 Everton
Everton's final away game of the season takes them to Molineux to face Wolves in an increasingly desperate bid to avoid relegation from the Premier League.
Calvert-Lewin starts, Onana is in for Holgate, Conor Coady ineligible to play against his parent club.
Sean McAllister is called up from the U21s to the bench for the first time, with Reece Welch and Ellis Simms the other youngsters among the subs.
Wolves kicked off, playing low-risk passes to the ball away from Everton until they picked out Traore who failed to get past McNeil. From Pickford's clearance poor headers gave away possession in midfield and Wolves surged forward dangerously crossing low across the face of the goal.
Garner was fouled wide right. Mina headed down to Calvert-Lewin who tried to turn but shot wide into the side netting under pressure. McNeil got a decent run up the left wing but Neves was too strong for him. Garner forced possession in midfield but Iwobi's cross was poor.
Calvert-Lewin got on the end of Pickford's clearance and Iwobi followed up but lost it. From the throw-in, a good-looking cross from Doucore was met by Calvert-Lewin under close attention and he could not direct the header. A much better-worked attack saw Iwobi cross well to Calvert-Lewn who should have done better with the header that went a few feet over the bar.
Gueye tried his usual utterly wasteful attempt from outside the Wolves area. But Everton were responding well to the high tempo of the game, winning a corner on the right. Gomes and Trakowski were pushing silly buggers but the ref allowed the corner to be taken and it bobbled around without a clear chance in the crowded area.
Another decent Everton attack, Iwobi picking out Doucoure with a hard cross that he could not handle. Traore then went right through Onana and was rightly carded .
Another good attack, this one on the right, saw Calvert-Lewin win a corner, with more silly stuff in the goal area. McNeil's brilliant ball in beat Bentley but Doucoure had pushed him.
It was a highly competitive game with no quarter given, Everton responding well and giving the fans a lot to cheer. But Wolves did build a dangerous attack Pickford almost getting caught out.
A strange tangle with Toti floored Calvert-Lewin on the edge of Wolves area but the ref saw nothing wrong with it, while Sean Dyche was somewhat animated. Patterson needed some treatment before the game restarted. McNeil stopped the advance down Everton's left.
Garner did really well to set up Onana but he dithers and dribbles rather than shooting or crossing. He still won a corner, Mina heading over falling backwards. Patterson could not continue and Keane came on.
Sarabia had a shot well blocked and the clearance set up another attack through Calvert-Lewin. Mina did well to contain
Everton worked hard to build a tricky attack with lots of players forward. but the intricate passing broke down and Traore ran half the length of the field, his shot pushed out by Picjkofrd straight to Hwang who could not miss.
Onanan was overrun in midfield and Wolves came too close to scoring a second, Pickford parrying the heading the rebound onto the roof of the net.
Traore switched sides and just steamed past everyone, Mina getting in to shepherd the ball back to Pickford. Iwobi shot weakly from distance. But Wolves now had their tails up and surged forward again, Doucoure giving up a free-kick. Neves, straight into the Bue wall.
Calvert-Lewin advanced under close attention, Neves catching his heel for a dangerous Garner free-kick that was very poorly executed, well off target. Gueye seemed to have been caught on the ball in his own area but recovered very well.
Onana tried to play in Calvert-Lewin who was blocked by Collins and twisted around, grasping his thigh before going down, head in hands. We all know what that means. Demarai Gray came on during the 4 minutes of added time.
Everton were shell-shocked but tried to pay out the half without any more damage being done, Podence eventually shooting wide. Dawson fouled Onana and was carded but Everton could do nothing with the free-kick.
What a disastrous half with two forced changes after getting so close to scoring in well-constructed moves that could have yielded three goals for – rather than one against.
Everton restarted with a massive task ahead of them to reverse their dismal fortunes. It didn't start well with Onana getting roughed up by Gomes and needing treatment.
From a free-kick Keane almost got a chance to flick the ball goalward. Wolves physicality was a serious problem with Toti diving in on Gueye. Everton tried to work an attack and Iwobi shot toward the top corner but not have enough pace to beat Bentley.
Garner blocked Traore very cleverly as Everton tried to stay alert to the counter. Mina was the next to suffer as Neves trod full on his foot. The play was pretty ragged now with attacks harder to construct as gold shirts swarmed around the field to deny Everton time and space.
Semedo fired a long distant shot over the angle. At the other end, Gray crossed low across the 6-yard area but no-one was moving in to score. Another counter through Traore, Sarabia blazing just wide. Wolves kept coming at Everton, Sememdo lashing wide.
Everton were simply unable to keep the ball, Gray fouling Collins to get ahead of him on a lofted ball. Podence was next to volley wide. Semedo collided with Gray and Everton were fortunate to get the free-kick. It came back out to Iwobi whose poor volley flew wide.
Neves was adjudged to have brought down Keane, winning a dangerous free-kick, Garner taken off set-piece duty. Gray did nothing to beat the wall – what a pathetic free-kick from Gray.
Keane tried his arm at the long throw that saw Bently take out his defender. Gtar id a lot better with a shot that Bently got his hands to it. More song and dance for the Everton corner, Bentley clutching it out of the air after DOucoure had been a real pest.
On the counter, Pickford had to be alert and very lucky to stop Costa. Doucoure tried to force his way through but his shot was blocked. McNeil crossed in from the left but it was easily cleared.
Costas tried to force his way to goal but Mina blocked his efforts. Onana was just too casual in midfield but Everton struggled to get forward effectively. Graner tried to beat his man but inadvertently handled the ball.
Everton struggled again to get penetration into the Wolves area, Semedo going down clutching his face from Tarkowski's flailing arm.
A last throw of the dice was Maupay and Holgate on for Onana and Gueye. But Everton were finding it really hard work to create any kind of a chance against this tough, quick, physical Wolves side.
Another long throw, another distant Iwobi strike, perhaps his best of the day, deflected wide. The corner was punched clear. McNeil and Gray combined on the left but it broke down and another footrace was on, halted by Mina and Pickford.
Into the last 5 minutes and absolute desperation from Everton, Maupay trying and failing to imitate Gundogan from last week with a twist and flick in the Wolves goal area.
Wolves cleverly choreographed a long celebration for the substitution of Neves, the referee allowing him to give everyone a hug with time running out. Garner was forced to take out Nunes, as the game entered 9 minutes of added time.
Everton tried to build yet again but it was far too slow and the massed Wolves defence quickly switched to counter-attack Nunes doing everything he could but Pickford got a foot out to deflect his shot wide.
Everton kept pushing up, Nunes cynically taking out Mina. The futility was summed up by Pickford striding a long way forward and hoofing the ball over everyone and out behind for a Wolves goal-kick.
Gray tried another shot that was deflected behind for another corner, headed away but put back in and winning yet another Everton corner but again it was defended away well for an Everton throw-in.
Into the last minute of added time and Everton had a throw-in near the half-way line, McNel short to Gray who delivered a brilliant cross in from deep wide left, causing havoc at the far post, Tarkowski backpedalling and losing his balance but still heading it back to Keane who somehow controlled it and got it back across to Mina who stabbed it into the net amidst a crowd of yellow shirts in the goal area. An absolutely unbelievable goal to end an unbelievable game!
Wolverhampton Wanderers: Bentley, Semedo, Collins, Dawson [Y:], Toti [Y:51'], Traore [Y:17'], Gomes, Neves [Y:66'] (88' Traore), Sarabia (70' Nunes [Y:90+4']), Hwang (74' Lemina), Podence (70' Costa).
Subs not Used: Sa, Jimenez, Cunha, Kilman, Bueno.
Everton: Pickford, Patterson (29' Keane), Mina, Tarkowski, McNeil, Gana (81' Holgate) , Onana (81' Maupay), Garner [Y:90'], Doucoure, Iwobi, Calvert-Lewin (45+2' Gray).
Subs not Used: Begovic, Lonergan, McAllister, Simms, Welch.
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2 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:03:59
3 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:04:53
I guess we'll know the first time someone has to chase Traore.
4 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:05:19
5 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:05:27
6 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:07:07
7 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:08:33
8 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:08:39
Bbc got 3 -5-1-1
9 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:09:14
Let's stick Gana on the wing - could be fun?
10 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:09:36
Or is one of Onana/Garner playing wide? With McNeill or Iwobi at left back?
Or is Gana the left back?
How do you fit that many central midfielders into the side?
11 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:10:44
12 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:10:50
13 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:11:28
14 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:14:20
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski McNeill
Iwobi Garner Doucoure Gana Onana
Calvert-Lewin
What do you think.
COYBLUES!
15 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:14:47
16 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:15:45
17 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:17:51
18 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:18:30
Patterson Tarkowski Mina
Iwobi Garner Onana Gueye Mcneil
Doucouré
DCL
1-3-5-1-1
19 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:19:16
Very clear message to Gray. The squad would need to be down to 10 players before he's getting a start.
20 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:20:11
21 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:20:12
22 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:26:29
23 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:29:56
I think we might just see Gana at left back. Which is odd too. But you can't organise that selection into any formation without coming up with some kind of oddity.
24 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:41:05
Wolves were already going to be difficult to score against, unless it's a set-piece it's looking almost impossible.
25 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:50:08
Crunch time for Everton
Wolves v Everton (15:00)
Phil McNulty, BBC Sport chief football writer at Molineux
For the second season in succession, Everton start their penultimate league game under threat of relegation. It is sadly symptomatic of catastrophic boardroom decision making, with owner Farhad Moshiri. chairman Bill Kenwright and CEO Denise Barrett-Baxendale culpable and director of football Kevin Thelwell also under scrutiny after January passed with any additions to a struggling squad.
Everton can still put matters right, starting against a Wolves side making six changes today, but what a desperate reflection on those in power at the club that they find themselves in this dire situation once more.
26 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:52:33
1-3.5-4.5-1-1 with McNeil trying to be a wingbackforward like a madman.
Dyche is trying to sandbag them.
27 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:53:43
Looks like maximum mobility plus maybe fluidity. Needs maximum effort and clinicality on top.
Come on you blues! UTFT!
28 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:03:11
Seems crazy to me but let's see.
29 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:19:48
30 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:30:36
31 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:32:50
32 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:33:36
33 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:34:54
34 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:39:46
35 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:41:38
36 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:48:08
This is just pathetic.
37 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:48:17
38 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:51:18
At least we have Kenwright, Mosh, DBB and Sharp and a Dynasty of "Good Times" over decades! Joke of a club, absolute Killing Joke.
39 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:55:50
40 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:59:24
Doucoure is complete rubbish and Iwobi is not doing much better and then we give away a soft goal as somebody thought you could play a one-two with the most brain dead professional footballer at the club, Gana.
When we went to three at the back we failed to bring McNeil into the game at all and without knowing what is wrong with Calvert-Lewin could we not have gotten through the 4 minutes or so until halftime without him while his injury was assessed.
Dyche will need a rethink and new plan at halftime as right now the only thing going for us is that Maupay wasn't brought on and Wolves are not upto much albeit that at the moment that is better than we are showing.
41 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:59:49
So ‘miracles' now required. Our paper-thin squad is a shocking indictment of our hierarchy.
42 Posted 20/05/2023 at 15:59:57
What else works? This current setup absolutely doesn't work.
43 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:01:45
Pretty sure it was Doucoure who gave the ball away for the goal.
44 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:03:16
All over them but cannot hit a barn door at 2 paces
DCL looking promising then injured - no backup striker to note. At least Dyche didn't play Maupey
Doucs awful causing turnovers galore
Gana and Onana think they're playing walking football
Sucker punched and gone to jelly
It's still in ourhands though - COYB!!!
45 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:06:17
Pickford obviously told to take all free kicks and go route 1 so why the fuck do Tarkowski and Gana decide it's a good idea to try and play it out. Dumb stupid football players we have.
With DCL and Patterson gone I would very happily take a draw right now but don't know how we're gonna get a goal here despite Wolves being average.
46 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:08:23
47 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:18:01
48 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:18:35
49 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:23:02
50 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:24:45
51 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:42:15
52 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:48:58
We have a manager that was out of work for 10 months after being sacked by Burnley, just let that sink in.
53 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:52:13
54 Posted 20/05/2023 at 16:56:46
55 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:02:46
56 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:06:30
57 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:08:18
Our away points have been a massive improvement. People expecting us to thrash Wolves were in cuckoo land. We fight another day.
UTFT
58 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:09:33
I couldn't believe Dyche's substitutions and while Holgate didn't do too badly at right-back, Maupay managed only to touch the ball three times and shield one over the touchline for a Wolves throw-in. But we looked a total mess with all trace of a plan going off with Calvert-Lewin.
We live to fight one more day.
59 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:12:31
The competetivenes of that game, the huge home adavntage Wolves held, the great start they made to the game... Yet Everton responded and deserved to have won in that first half but just couldn't pull off the chances they worked to create.
Patterson and Calvert-Lewin forced off, Wolves so up for it, so determined not to lose. Everton somehow kept going through an extremely taxing second half and into 9 minutes of added time. And then a tremendous finish in the very last minute. You couldn't make it up.
Who put that cross in?
60 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:12:43
61 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:14:54
Credit when it's due, they stayed with it under great difficulty and got a precious point.
That will have sickened our rivals no end.
We can do it now.
65 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:17:17
66 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:18:10
67 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:18:49
It's out of our hands now, because we failed to win
68 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:19:46
We still have to beat Bournemouth who will definitely not roll over
Watched the early kick off and not sure if Brentford are really good or Spurs are really shite
Regardless Leeds will turn Spurs over
Terrible result, again not in our hands
69 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:19:52
Keane didn't do bad at all when he went forward. I think Craig is right. We had a real paucity of choice of players. Once Patterson went off Wolves could have run riot but they didn't.
I'm made up for the away fans, they stayed right to the end, when it looked like we had no chance of scoring. But there's some massive rebuilding required; no matter what fate has in store.
70 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:20:40
71 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:21:35
Now for Arsenal and West Ham victories.
72 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:22:17
Played decently in the first half, but losing Patterson and Calvert-Lewin was worse than we ever deserved. Tthe midfield had no shape, if played wide, we had no one to knock it into. It was painful to watch, we didn't stop, but no shape, just pressure.
99 minutes. The 1 point that may mean everything next week. Looks like I will have to go to Mass in the morning… it's already 4:20 am.
We ain't dead yet!
73 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:22:41
Holgate at right-back, and some other chap at left-back would be the way to go. We will score off a set piece and then defend for our lives.
74 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:22:44
Next Sunday will be a killer – can we get Calvert-Lewin fit and, if not, who plays up front? Will we have anyone fit to play either full-back position?
This club ages you so often but then someone does something to drag you back in. Incredible!!
75 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:23:02
76 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:23:46
We are on 33 points, Leeds 31 points. A point for Leeds keeps us above them. If they win, we go into the Bottom 3.
77 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:25:33
78 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:26:10
I think it can only really influence in relation to Forest, if we draw and they earn no more points, due to goal difference.
Or if Leicester get 2 draws and Leeds score no more than 1 point.
79 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:27:13
Maybe the board were right, we don't need a striker.
80 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:27:26
Losing faith in Dyche's tactics and timing and personnel of his subs.
81 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:27:44
82 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:28:26
Also remember that a coach has only 3 substitution moments, so following 2 subs for injury in the first half, Dyche was left with only one more opportunity to change his personnel on the field.
There would be no more opportunities to replace any players struggling with an injury. It is not the fault of Dyche that he has so few options, we all know that the missing board of directors have a lot to answer for, if they ever face up. COYB.
83 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:28:35
84 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:31:40
85 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:31:52
Forest lose tonight and next week at Palace – which they will.
Leicester lose Monday – which they will. We will need a point in the last game of the season.
I'm sick and tired of the Calvert-Lewin drama – whether or not it is his fault, we desperately need to get rid. Playing well 6 games a season does not help the cause. And he had a good first half today.
86 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:33:50
he's played very well since returning. That's irony for ya.
87 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:34:26
There's so many people willing to defend him but even when he is playing he's worse than average in terms of converting chances. It's no surprise that, when Everton were having fire sales to raise cash against our deficit, it was Richarlison and Gordon that were sold and no-one wanted Calvert-Lewin. If we do manage to stay up, we need to move him on to the Championship and buy 3 new strikers.
88 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:37:46
Lots of twists and turns yet – the fact that we battled to a draw will help confidence which is very important.
89 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:39:42
he was essentially unsaleable due to injury, whether or not. He's no magician but has made a difference in the last 3 games.
90 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:41:17
Also remember that a coach has only 3 substitution moments, so following 2 subs for injury in the first half, Dyche was left with only one more opportunity to change his personnel on the field.
I'm not sure that's quite right. He could have made additional subs at the start of the second half but he didn't… I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have. But I believe there was a fourth sub opportunity there.
91 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:45:52
92 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:48:27
93 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:52:53
Maybe next week Townsend can have a Lazarus-like return for his last game and score his season average of 5 stunners all in the first half.
94 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:53:39
We managed to get the ball in the box quite a bit towards the end, and I bet many Toffees were thinking. "Why the Hell is Simms not on?" Maupay and Holgate!!! Jesus…
If we manage to stay up, I'll say thanks, Mr Dyche, but quite obviously we need to move on from him to progress. He's better than Lampard. Who isn't?
Spot on, Derek (81).
95 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:54:26
He's made mistakes but it's night and day from Lampard's tenure. We'd be safe if he were in charge for the reverse fixture v Wolves on Boxing Day.
96 Posted 20/05/2023 at 17:59:04
I really don't have a clue what team he will pick next week. Maybe Holgate starting at right-back and Gray up top?
The lack of quality is killing us. After largely controlling the first 25 minutes, Doucoure's lazy layoff and Onana not bringing Traore down cost us the goal. We will always struggle after conceding.
The new Mick Lyons was thrown up top. No idea why Wolves wanted to time waste so much, it cost them in the end.
Mina my MotM by some distance.
It's going to be a long week.
97 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:01:03
Now we need favours. Will be clearer by Monday, but I do think a Big Sam guided Leeds could get a win at West Ham (not so much Leicester against The Barcodes).
98 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:01:51
I want Dyche to explain to me why he selects Maupay. Not me personally obviously but just tell us why?
99 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:02:01
It does not lack for guts or competitive spirit. And that's what will keep us up.
100 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:02:40
Onana might only be 21 years old, but he's an international footballer. If he doesn't understand that you a) make the challenge and either win the ball or foul the player or b) cover the only other Wolves player (Hwang) involved in the breakaway, then I despair.
Sell him in the summer for 㿞 million or whatever anyone is dumb enough to pay for him because he just doesn't understand what is required at this level and we need the money to strengthen elsewhere.
Well done to the players for keeping going. A draw is a great result considering how the game went with injuries and personnel changes.
101 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:05:48
102 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:06:17
Absolutely.
103 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:07:45
I understand the lack of other personnel but why couldn't a place go to a youngster if only to get experience of being involved in the set-up on matchday?
104 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:10:13
Dyche gets some stick on here yet Ancelotti gets plenty of praise even though he said he isn't a magician and hasn't got a magic wand.
So what do they expect Dyche to do with a weaker squad than Ancelotti had, injuries before the game with the only fit left-back going down, then two more injuries in the first half to two important players unable to carry on. No wonder the display suffered in the second half.
I never saw the game. I watched the Live Forum posts until Patterson went off, then switched to a good book I'm reading and decided to let what would be, be.
I got back to the Live Forum when I thought the match would be over only to read 1-0 and the understandable moaning had begun, I thought the match was over then "Mina!" came from one post, followed by "Yis!" then another "Goal", "Get in", and so on.
I waited for that fuckin VAR to show its ugly face but it never did. I was literally shaking and had to switch off again.
Now, an hour later, still not relaxed but couldn't give a fuck about the performance and who played good, bad or indifferent. We are still in the fight for another week and the battered squad will line up next week at home to continue this battle with Dyche the manager
He's done better than okay to keep us where we are and hopefully earn the bonus that keeps us up and I don't care how we play next week as long as we stay up. God bless those fans who went today!!
105 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:13:53
Couldn't agree more. Doesn't even look interested, and I'm sick & tired of watching him roll around like he has been shot.
106 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:19:33
Which is fair enough, but you and I both know Dyche would pick his favourites like Keane or experience over youth – no matter what the squad was like.
His substitutions, or usual lack of, are baffling. Burnley fans will tell you that.
107 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:22:31
Either there is a God or the Devil is taunting us.
108 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:27:08
I hope you are right, and it won't be for want of effort that we enter the final battle in a precarious position, but with hope, and hopefully, decent team spirit.
109 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:27:18
With 30 seconds to go, with Pickford loping into the penalty area for the corner, we had an “Everton, that†moment as the screen froze. I stormed out, a minute later little Charlie shouted “We've scored, Grandadâ€. Blimey O'Reilly.
I consider it to be a point rescued. It may prove to be our salvation. I thought we played pretty well, particularly in the first half. Anything that could go wrong, did so. We fought hard, which is a big thing.
My fear is that, under Sean Dyche, this limited team has been playing as well as it can. But that will not be enough.
However, the fight is there and, currently, I wouldn't swap places with Leeds or Leicester.
110 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:32:38
To be fair, my Mrs does have a soft spot for us success-starved blues.
111 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:47:55
112 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:49:04
It is not for lack of effort by the players in this match that we are about to suffer yet another defeat but years of piss poor running of the club and it was on show today with the paucity of the playing staff and the manager who is having to make these awful decisions on how to fit this broken jigsaw together.
As it turns out, we pulled out a point from the very depths of defeat in what could prove to be monumental momment in our history.
We should have been dead and buried in this game by the 80th minute but Wolves were passing up their chances to kill us off. So our team stuck at it with what looked like a defiant token effort to avoid being booed off by the hordes of blues and miraculously we got a bit of luck right at the death to snatch a point.
Like many have said, I hope never to see most of these players in the blue of Everton again (no choice for next week). I will make exceptions in the case of James Garner, who looks a proper footballer with a bit of bite to him. Dwight McNeill has been great of late and even tonight he showed he can play football in a real challenging unfamiliar role.
Patterson looks like he wants to play for the team and he is learning fast. These players, along with Simms and Branthwaite, give me hope but, my god, we are poor right now with players like Doucouré, Gana, Tarkowski, Mina, Maupay etc. Even Onana looks bang average.
113 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:52:05
The reason Simms isn't picked was Liverpool and Man Utd away. It was like we only had 10 men. He was absolutely dreadful.
114 Posted 20/05/2023 at 18:58:45
I was convinced we would score, we didn't. Before I wiped that off, we had another corner and scored, I then posted my delayed "Gooooal!"
115 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:06:20
He'd be more likely to score than Maupay, yes. Maupay runs round but, fuck me, he is so ineffectual, I just don't think we should write the lad off on the back of 2 performances at Anfield and Old Trafford.
Anyway, I'm quite happy with the point today thanks to Big Yerry, granted the performance was a hard watch but we showed a bit of spirit to get a draw at a tough place to go.
116 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:08:32
At 4:40 pm, I couldn't resist the temptation and got on the BBC football page. When I saw it was 1-0, my heart sank and I felt sick. At 5:05 pm, I was punching the air.
Now I've settled down, I realise this is not in our hands and I'm feeling sick again. Can we depend on others to help us? All we can do is hope and pray Leeds and Leicester don't pick up more than a point from their remaining games.
Thanks, Everton, for ruining another weekend. If we go down, it's our own fault but I'll be lighting a few candles between now and Sunday.
117 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:15:40
I cannot understand why Garner never stayed with their goal scorer. Instead, they all went towards Traore.
118 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:30:17
Forest buying 30 fecking players and Leeds pulling another fast one like last season, only this time with Allardyce which adds a certain tinge of irony – they don't deserve to be in this league but mind you, neither do we.
If that fat fuck Kenwright had one shred of decency in him – he hasn't – he'd put back into the club every penny he's made from his share sales and repay every single expense he's taken out of the club.
119 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:32:14
My son got enough signal for the score, it was 1-0. I prayed for an equaliser and it was still 1-0 at full time. My prayers had not been answered. Then back in signal a 5:00 pm and when on ToffeeWeb it was 1-1 – Alleliugha!!!!!!
So it will be the last game of the season that may decide Everton's fate. It was always going to be like that with this squad.
120 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:36:07
Leeds will win at a tired rotated West Ham and then at home to a terrible on-the-beach Spurs.
121 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:37:21
122 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:38:24
And repeat for that next one.
123 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:41:24
It's us or Leeds. Leicester will find it hard to rally.
Maupay consistently over Simms? Just don't understand it. Fine margins. I hope Coady is back for Bournemouth to fire this team up.
124 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:41:28
Thank you, Bill Kenwright, and thank you, Farhad Moshiri. How has this great club ended up here?
125 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:42:51
The goal at Chelsea is better than anything Maupay has done for us. When we resorted to smashing it upfield today, who would you rather have attacking the ball – 6ft-2in Simms or 5ft-7in Maupay?
It's so easy to say "I told you so" after the fact.
126 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:44:10
I just hope Leeds and Leicester lose. And if the worst happens… then we deserve it.
127 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:47:58
128 Posted 20/05/2023 at 19:48:05
Neither are good enough to play on their own. Imo Maupay links the play better.
Simms's goal at Chelsea earned a point. Maupay's goal v West Ham earned 3 points.
129 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:03:01
At this level, Maupay is a failed striker. Simms is an unknown. With those tactics today, Simms was a better option.
I have seen enough of Maupay to realise he may be good next season if we go down.
Who is in your starting 11 next Sunday?
Maybe I have answered my own question in that Keane is better than both up front!
130 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:07:51
Pickford
Keane, Mina, Tarkowski
Iwobi, Doucouré, Garner, Gueye, McNeil
Simms, Gray.
And more squeaky bums than Goodison has ever heard !!!
We now rely on Moyes and West Ham Utd – twice, and Newcastle and Spurs. Thank You, Messrs Kenwright & Moshiri.
I feel physically sick as my head is telling me the cherry on this awful-tasting relegation cake will be Allardyce laughing his fucking cock off on MotD next weekend.
I hope to god I am wrong.
131 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:07:53
My team if players are fit:
Pickford
Patterson Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko
Iwobi Garner Doucouré McNeil
Calvert-Lewin Maupay.
132 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:23:22
There were too many positional changes to compensate for an injured left-back. Consequently our play was disjointed, at times chaotic. Throwing Michael Keane up front reminded me of the seventies and Mick Lyons but nothing else was working so it was worth a try.
I am afraid West Ham have no interest in the outcome tomorrow. I expect Leeds to win both their last two fixtures. I hope I am proved wrong.
133 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:24:12
On the contrary. Leeds and Leicester now know it's out of our hands. They'll be invigorated that a win will lift them both above us.
I can see Leeds getting a result at West Ham who have no skin in the league but do have skin in Europe.
As it stands today, even a rip-roaring last-day win does not guarantee us safety. We could win 10-0 and still go down.
The result today has definitely sickened me though.
134 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:27:06
Cue the apologists talking about potential.
135 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:30:59
I will wait until tomorrow to write something more coherent, because I have all kinds of emotions running through me right now.
As did those leaving the stadium at the end.
I tried food, but the body wasn't having it.
It's not over.
136 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:31:05
Calvert-Lewin is not playing next week and neither is Patterson. The next start for Maupay should be in the Championship – regardless of club:
Pickford
Holgate Mina Tarkowski Mykolenko (if fit; if not, McNeil)
Iwobi Garner Gana Doucouré
Gray or McNeil (Simms if Mykolenko is not fit)
Regardless, we need to win against a team that have battered us twice this season.
137 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:39:42
We weren't great but we weren't shit and no-one hid. Wolves have been strong at home and we were seriously depleted when we lost Patterson and Calvert-Lewin.
Proud of the team.
UTFT!
138 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:42:39
If we play Simms on his own up front, we are royally fucked.
139 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:42:44
Yes, proud of the team to get a point from that given the in-game injuries.
Good to meet you, Neil and Martin for the first time today, and Danny of course.
I got home about an hour ago.
140 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:44:48
And why play our most recently effective forward player McNeil at left-back in a must-win game? Garner should be central controlling the game. And both Doucouré and Onana in the same midfield is only ending in a mess at the moment.
My Saturday mornings are spent watching my lad's under-12s – they were more organised than us in that awful second half today.
Credit though for throwing the centre-backs forward to do the striker's job. That could be an important point.
Right – moan over. I'm switching off.
We can still do this!
141 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:52:11
And with Maupay we are…?
142 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:53:59
We have struggled for goals all season because managers have persisted with one up front with an uncreative midfield.
143 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:55:50
Massive celebration on the goal with many of us still not knowing the scorer even as we left the ground. Thanks to Neves for the added time. Let's beat Bournemouth and then see where we are.
144 Posted 20/05/2023 at 20:56:48
If we are to play him, then we need someone alongside him like Calvert-Lewin or Simms. You'd think that would be obvious.
He may turn out to be the player who fires us to promotion next season?!
145 Posted 20/05/2023 at 21:03:09
I feel really sorry for those regular away supporters who will still be saying "It's not over yet". Sorry, you are starting to sound like the band on the Titanic offering encouragement while knowing the ship is sinking.
You have done your best for the club and it is sickening that those who have more influence within the club could not offer as much, but chose to bury their heads in the sand and plead innocence.
I sincerely hope that we stay up but we have relied on other clubs to fail for too long instead of relying on our own abilities. Today we've seen the 2nd-place team whose league position never changed with a loss, against a team that, with a win, stay in the Premier League. This shows you can't rely on other results; our league position is our own fault.
146 Posted 20/05/2023 at 21:06:59
No amount of rah, rah, rah speeches or unbounded optimism and faith will keep us up, only the final result at Goodison and other grounds will determine our fate.
Thanks, Moshiri and Kenwright — you've played a blinder… Twats.
147 Posted 20/05/2023 at 21:28:58
Also how it was realized after several key injuries in an already patchwork eleven. They fucking did what we've all demanded at their most heavily weighted moment of pressure and anxiety. They fucking did that so please just take a moment to get right with that and give them their due.
It might work out so don't go overboard before the ship requires that of you.
148 Posted 20/05/2023 at 21:43:02
Today, when Calvert-Lewin and Patterson went off ,we did well to get a draw. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know much. We had no full-backs plus other players out of position on the pitch.
Leicester are 1/8 and Leeds are 1/3 to be relegated while we are best priced 11/8. The bookies appear to have more faith in us than we have, I'm not sure I agree with those odds myself.
We are in a very vulnerable position.
149 Posted 20/05/2023 at 22:09:51
First 25 minutes, we were well in control,; after that we allowed them to dictate. That said, they never looked like scoring.
2nd half, we were dreadful and I and my two mates on our way back to the car couldn't believe we'd just equalised — we were shell-shocked actually.
But what the fuck! It's another point gained. If someone had said 5 points from Leicester (a), Brighton (a), Man City (h) and Wolves (a), we'd have snapped their hand off.
150 Posted 20/05/2023 at 22:21:35
Selling your best players season after season lies the problem. Relying on other clubs to save us now is how low we have come.
Still a chance and hope!
151 Posted 20/05/2023 at 22:22:12
If we go down, it will be overwhelmingly their responsibility.
Gonna be a tense week!
152 Posted 20/05/2023 at 22:24:25
To now be dependent on other results to have even a hope of survival is a way more than appalling legacy from those in charge, and yet today's match has generated a mere 150+ posts thus far.
Seems to me that most of us are long since rightly 100% aware of the grim fate bestowed on us.
Jeez, even if we survive this season, where does anyone with a modicum of reality see an escape from relegation next season given the gross negligence and recklessness alive and well at the top of our club?
They've already comprehensively fucked us for seasons to come.
153 Posted 20/05/2023 at 22:36:57
Let's enjoy next week for what it is. We have something to play for; we've had very little to play for for a generation.
154 Posted 20/05/2023 at 23:17:17
It's not in our hands but all we can do is go and win the game next week.
Well done, Blues.
ps: if circumstances mean no Calvert-Lewin next week, I'd like to see Keane up front.
155 Posted 20/05/2023 at 23:50:14
Effort is the only thing that has given us a chance. I believe that the players are battling despite poor managers and a history of dreadful recruitment that has left us with a ramshackle set of players.
We're now in a position where we go into the most important match of the season not even able to play a recognised formation with the players we have available. That's an absolute disgrace.
I can only hope, as the board watched that first half and saw McNeil wasted at left back, Keane floundering at full-back, Garner struggling positionally on the right wing, and then the tough calls made when our only viable striker exited the game... they thought, "Yeah, these fans might have a point. We've cocked this up and should go."
We're lucky Wolves went for the counter-attacking option. If they'd taken the game to us as they did after Patterson went off, then we'd be a point and goal difference worse off. The Keane change was an absolute shocker, even if the player himself showed admirable qualities in that second half.
156 Posted 20/05/2023 at 00:04:42
I think West Ham - Leeds will be a draw, and Newcastle will beat Leicester, therefore our survival will be in our own hands. Can we do it though?
157 Posted 20/05/2023 at 00:16:31
But hope was never going to be enough, cruel to lose Seamus and Patterson, cruelties still having to play Keane and Maupay. But the sickening reality is the abject failure of the club to have a squad depth were there is a total absence of quality cover in key defensive positions, and ultimately the one, key catastrophic failure to bring in ANY strikers to replace Richarlison or critical back up for DCL.
That, single failure may well be the most damming failure to the survival of the club. Moshiri knew it, promised a striker, never happened.
We all know why we are here, it's not been bad luck even if it feels like it, we had a badly shaped team who didn't give up, a manager, like those before him, who couldn't get the same performance from players week in, week out.
I don't care what Leeds or Leicester do, our focus is to win our last game, we have points on the table, not a game in hand. I will take that anyday
158 Posted 20/05/2023 at 00:18:03
We Only! have to win once...we Have! to win.
We can finish on 33, 34 or...the preferred option...36pts
Leicester need 2 wins and 'only' finish on; 30, 31, 32 33, 34 or 36pts plus a better GD...but it doesnt really matter if we finish 18th or 19th
Leeds is the key, they also need 2 wins but may potentially finish on anything from; 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 or the nightmare / doomsday senario...37pts
That Fat Lady is stood in the wings waiting for her cue.
We can only win or draw and hope the gods of diminishing mathamatical permutations let us off the hook.
Win!
159 Posted 21/05/2023 at 00:47:37
Team-shape/transition/injuries/suspensions fully occupy every PROFESSIONAL football club every week yet those useless prats who've managed to spend £hundreds of millions to now deliver our years-to-come perilous predicament are still there, postulating their completely unrevealed notion as to how they'll show one iota of know-how when it comes to either relegation of the skin-of-the-teeth survival they once again pray for.
Moshiri is just like a mega-balloon such as Gerald Ratner, who destroyed his own Ratner jewellery chain to the tune of £500,000,000 by telling the mere truth.
That said, truth from the Everton boardroom is as scarce to anyone not in it as the final destination of the Arteta money, and way more besides.
With these clowns we're fucked - period.
160 Posted 21/05/2023 at 02:51:41
161 Posted 21/05/2023 at 03:15:15
162 Posted 21/05/2023 at 03:40:13
It was a very very nervous build up to that game with rumours abound that some Liverpool supporters would walk down County Road carrying a coffin with the words ‘ RIP Everton' written on it so there was a lot more to the game than relegation itself. ( we did this to them many years earlier )
We were also playing the perfect party spoilers in The Crazy gang. So, we are 2 nil down by our own mistakes and Wimbledon we're laughing. I had a perfect view from the top balcony of just how bad it was. The bitterness was in everyone's faces and the mood was sickening. Absolutely gut wrenching.
The rest is history of course but here we are again as a football club that has learned nothing. What is incredible is that we have avoided the drop for so long whilst this idiot chairman has had control of things.
He would probably take great pride in that of course !
163 Posted 21/05/2023 at 04:37:01
I was probably too young to understand the mismanagement it takes for a club like Everton to be in that position so soon after a successful period. I just blamed Liverpool and bad luck. Everton were still by far the greatest. And I'd been too young to appreciate our successes in the 80s.
That said, my sense was that we couldn't possibly go down. The Street end would suck the ball across the line. We were defiant and it was the greatest day of my life until the 95 Cup Final.
I've since left the UK and will defer to current matchgoing Blues, but my sense is that it was similar to the Palace game (even ignoring the sequence of goals) but with more ferver and desperation.
This time feels strange to me. More Coventry than Wimbledon. I don't think that Palace lightning in a bottle moment can be recreated 12 months apart.
In all truth we absolutely deserve to go down. We're a mess. We look like the sort of club that needs to be put out of its misery and relegated. I found myself laughing at Michael Keane ambling down the wing in the first half. Nothing against his efforts; it just summed up our club. The game was reminiscent of when Skinner and Baddiel used to do the 'Saint and Greavesie Endsleigh goal of the month' sketch on Fantasy Football. Possibly Doucoure is our own Ricky Otto.
Staying up really isn't enough. I've never been at that point in my life. If we stay up and little changes, then we just do this again next year and go down in humiliating fashion. We are the worst club in the league. We need wholesale changes just to make survival worthwhile.
Edit: you've also reminded me what our younger fans have experienced as Evertonians. I'm in my mid 40s with vague early childhood memories of the late 80s and one Cup win in the 90s... I feel robbed. You must feel absolutely screwed over!
164 Posted 21/05/2023 at 06:13:33
Hi Joe, funnily enough I always thought we would beat Wimbledon. Even with Walker at the helm. We had players who genuinely gave a shit like Southall, Watson, Horne, Rideout, Stuart, the fantastic Limpar and a decent goalscorer in Cottee. Don't get me wrong the start we had nearly gave me a heart attack but I always felt we were capable of beating them. You only have to look at the following season when Royle took over. The same side beat all the top sides and won the cup! There was only Parkinson that hadn't played a part in the relegation fight. All the other players were at the club who started in the final.
I was far more worried about Coventry. I thought they would turn us over. Bolton had got some momentum in there few previous games and were playing a London side with nothing to play for in the league but had a European Cup Final to play, oh the similarities!! Still haven't forgiven the Chelsea fans for booing their own team! I understand West Ham don't particularly have any affection for Leeds so hopefully they cheer their side on.
165 Posted 21/05/2023 at 06:25:15
Back then most of the Squad was good enough to win the FA Cup 12mths later, off form, poorly managed and on the day - very, very, nervous - bricking it with a sort of self fulfilling nervousness everytime a cross came in - Yes, even Nev wasn't immune.
This Squad isn't that nervous as such...though we'd better wait until Sunday to really see...its just collectively not as good.
166 Posted 21/05/2023 at 07:38:26
I have worried about this fixture for ages. They play with verve and know how to score goals. We, on the other hand will surely be wothout our front man.
We will have a better chance of success with Mc Neil wide left but what we do at right back will be equally important.
Perhaps Iwobi will play there and with Gray wide right.
I wonder if Townsend might make the bench? One of his 30-yarders would be nice!
167 Posted 21/05/2023 at 07:55:35
I digress - back to the match. I couldn't get a stream working yesterday and have watched MotD so that and the LF comments are what I have to go on. I haven't read the comments on here yet but It seemed to me that we were only a smidgen of luck and a downward header by DCL away from a win.
At 5:00pm yesterday I felt like I had won the lottery.This morning, in the cold light of day my realist head is back on and nervousness for today's 1:30 game has kicked off. I said on the LF that the irony of having our fate resting potentially in the hands of D Moyes is palpable, and my predictor a few weeks ago had us finishing 17th with 33 points.
That's still possible but please W Ham and you Geordies win today for the good of our health, and leave our fate in our hands.
168 Posted 21/05/2023 at 07:58:46
169 Posted 21/05/2023 at 08:06:27
To me this time it feels different, the injuries, the abject failure to buy a striker last summer, then ridiculously compounded January. The blinkered persistence with the way out of depth Lampard beyond the Bournemouth debacles , at the same time Villa was getting rid of Gerrard and appointing Emery. In short, just how much incompetence can a club take before it breaks?
As ever, I'll be praying to the football gods to intervene and give us a reprieve. Only this time I think it will take even more of an effort from all concerned. Leeds and Leicester have not been better than us lately, so it's still all there to fight for.
170 Posted 21/05/2023 at 08:12:59
171 Posted 21/05/2023 at 09:02:40
172 Posted 21/05/2023 at 09:12:04
The goal yesterday came from a last gasp punt, we created nothing in a game where we desperately needed the 3 points.
173 Posted 21/05/2023 at 09:17:15
Like everyone on here I'm desperate for us to win on Saturday to seal survival but I just can't get up for a big celebration afterwards, no pitch invasion, no lording the players.
I wish I didn't love Everton - life would be so much easier. A week of torture ahead starting with a hung over WHU, then a Monday night supporting the detestable barcodes.
In the last month I've been rooting for RS, Man Utd, random teams that used to be in league 2 like Brentford. God it's hard work!
Like the rest of us though I'll be there doing it ! Get it done
174 Posted 21/05/2023 at 09:25:16
175 Posted 21/05/2023 at 09:37:37
The point means Leeds need a win today to escape the bottom three, not a draw.
I'd go with Gray up top against Bournemouth. Hopefully Myko is back, so Holgate can come in at right back. Gana, Onana and Doucoure in midfield, with McNeil and Iwobi wide.
176 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:02:20
177 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:03:47
This season we sold Richarlison, didn't replace him. Sold Gordon (great business) without replacing him. Bought Maupay (because we could?) and tried to reinvent him as a lone striker. Kept Lampard during the World Cup break, when it was clear to most of us he was finished. Brought in Dyche just in time to give him no players. If we'd brought him in during the World Cup break, I think we'd be safe now.
We need a big, big performance on Sunday. We need to score first. As on all the previous 'relegation' days, someone or something has to unexpectedly turn up for us.
178 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:21:21
179 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:22:27
I think you summarise our position compared to last season perfectly, we had Richarlison who was our talisman last season who helped get us over the line.
I think most of our problems were created by our last manager who failed to replace Richarlison and even had Gordon and Gray playing in the main striking role for 5 games, before finally buying the ineffective Maupay. He splashed £33 milion on Onana, who again proved yesterday what a poor decision that was. He signed Vinagre who has had about 15 minutes in a Blue shirt. As you say had this board acted as they should pre the World Cup then I doubt we would be here if Dyche had have been hired back then. Yet there were many on these pages still saying stick with Frank right up to the day he got sacked. The narrative wasn't that he was any good, just that we couldnt keep changing managers, but when they are as bad as Lampard you have too.
Dyche has not been able to sign a player, took over a squad that had lost all belief in itself and folded as soon as they went a goal down. He has had little or no striker due to DCLs injuries and Maupays ineffectiveness. Yesterday he loses his only fit right back and again DCL broke down all before half time. So a team lacking any real goalscoring threat once DCL went off, and because of Mykolenkos injury was forced to play McNeil our only naturally left footed player at left back, which severely hampered our attacking options.
I know that many have as you say resigned themselves with the thought that we are down, but at this stage I would rather have the points on the board than games in hand. Yes if either Leeds or Leicester win we would be in the bottom 3 going into the last game of the season which none of us want. I would just say Moyes has a lot of effection for this club so he will I believe have his team motivated to win today.
180 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:35:37
Onana didn't strengthen the midfield he weakened it and he affects Doucoure's game.
Moving McNeil to left back further weakened the midfield that became disjointed, and took away an important attacking strength.
By far the lesser evil would have been to play Samuel-Smith or Holgate at left back.
181 Posted 21/05/2023 at 10:37:47
183 Posted 21/05/2023 at 12:39:08
Lee. Spot on. I don't understand why Onana doesn't play in that position, and put square boots in Onana's position.
184 Posted 21/05/2023 at 12:48:03
185 Posted 21/05/2023 at 12:57:49
186 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:02:59
The main reason why Everton are relegation fodder is the same repeated error's players are making.Putting a player in a position he is unacustomed to adds to the risk of errors from such a player and requires adjustment from other players which increases the risk also.
Dyche has felt the need to change things game after game.It just shows you how confident he has in the Everton Squad and the players recruited.
187 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:03:00
The main reason why Everton are relegation fodder is the same repeated error's players are making.Putting a player in a position he is unacustomed to adds to the risk of errors from such a player and requires adjustment from other players which increases the risk also.
Dyche has felt the need to change things game after game.It just shows you how confident he has in the Everton Squad and the players recruited.
188 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:09:12
189 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:10:38
190 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:20:23
191 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:26:07
You are quite right, Doucoure is one of our attacking threats and his energy is also an asset, the rest of his game is suspect.
A centre midfield of Gueye the tackling covering player, Garner tackling and passing, and Doucoure's hassling and energy and goal threat seems to work.
Onana for me does not enhance that midfield, it just gets disjointed.
192 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:26:39
193 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:30:20
What we saw yesterday was a side bereft of any real quality with just hard work gaining us a point with Wolves missing quite a number of good opportunities in the second half and really should have been out of sight before we scored.
We stay up, and we will face the same prospect next year with no money, a crap unbalanced squad, club in turmoil without a pot to piss in and the FA just waiting to give us a points deduction.
Most of these players stealing a living on massive salaries will be off like a shot if we go down. What's left will not survive in the Championship as it will be youngsters, plus a few journeymen. Rondon was on 40K plus per week, Deli Ali 100 K, Gomez 110K, Maupay 45K. The list goes on with Mason on mega bucks on a lucrative 5 year deal. Gueye the top paid player alongside Doucoure who is only a few grand behind him both on over 100K per week. Utter madness and stupidity with the loonies running the asylum but without wearing straight jackets.
69 years old in July and been following the team since I was five years old. Glad I did my bucket trip in August last year and actually saw a win against West Ham under feeble Frank. Maupay scored the winner which is his only contribution since signing for 10 million quid and getting 45K per week. Probably the most expensive goal ever scored in the Premier League. I need to say this just to get it off my chest but he is "the worst Everton player I have ever seen" and I have seen some shite in my many years of watching Everton. Got to assume that one of the inmates in the asylum was on a high when that was agreed to. I could go on and on but bitterness wont solve the crisis so here's hoping that Moysey does us a big favour and gets one over on big Sam.
194 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:31:28
195 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:31:37
Jerome (187) Your first paragraph is spot
on. But talking to fellow Evertonians on the way to the game yesterday not one of them thought it would be a good idea to persist with Holgate. The outcome of course was several positional changes were made which disrupted the rhythm of the team. And we ended the game with Holgate on the pitch anyway.
196 Posted 21/05/2023 at 13:33:58
197 Posted 21/05/2023 at 15:03:34
198 Posted 21/05/2023 at 15:04:53
199 Posted 21/05/2023 at 15:29:20
200 Posted 21/05/2023 at 15:32:58
201 Posted 21/05/2023 at 15:40:37
202 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:04:12
Great trip up with Danny and Mark. Met some new faces such as Neil Copeland and others who I'll have to ask Mark about and a quite exceptional performance from Everton given the circumstances.
Make no bones about it, we are in general a very poor side and badly organised but without any real full-backs, our only forward gone and a goal down, we did something the Blues don't do and got a point at the death.
They worked bloody hard and nobody didn't turn up or wouldn't get off their asses. A massively important point too. Great support as always, although understandably a bit downbeat at times. My 4th away game and 8 points and a wonderful day out and game.
203 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:14:04
204 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:18:13
205 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:19:57
206 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:36:50
Well done to Moyes today who recognized that Zouma was struggling and took him off at half-time.
Over to Newcastle now to complete the job.
207 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:39:10
208 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:41:09
209 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:42:17
210 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:52:41
211 Posted 21/05/2023 at 16:53:45
It's not all over till the toffee lady sings and let's hope she's singing a happy song under new ownership next season.
212 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:00:34
213 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:07:13
214 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:07:35
It's not like Keane has the height advantage like he would have over Maupay. I just don't get it.
215 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:08:25
216 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:10:35
@215
WTF have you been smoking? ;-)
217 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:12:15
218 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:16:26
I do think you're right, Grant. Leeds scoring 3 is highly unlikely. Just can't bring myselfy to say "impossible".
219 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:19:06
Also, likely come last game we'll have no DCL and no FBs. If DCLs got a hammy his season is done. Thankfully we're at home so can't see the Bournemouth players being that up for it. No idea what team to play, whichever won't lose.
220 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:19:20
Interesting point. Keane can get you a goal, Maupay can't. We don't have anyone else. Too much pressure for Simms on this one. I'd rather have Keane fucking up in the front than at the back.
This comment is an appalling indictment on the club.
222 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:32:55
223 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:37:05
However, a decent weekend so far - Everton come from 1-0 down to rescue a point, West Ham come from 1-0 down to win 3-1, Crosby Stuart Under 9s come from 1-3 down at halftime to win 13-3!
224 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:42:13
225 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:52:03
I think we will draw with Bournemouth. Spurs will be Spurs and batter Leeds (Kane masterclass) and Leicester (after getting stuffed by Newcastle) will win their last game but to no avail as they will be relegated with Leeds and Southampton.
This has to stop here and now or some of us are going to be six feet under very quickly.
226 Posted 21/05/2023 at 17:56:17
You can question Dyche putting Keane up front, he scored a screamer last season to turn the game against Palace, and he provided the pass for Mina to score, having said that, if Dom is out I'd start Simms next Sunday.
227 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:03:06
228 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:19:26
229 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:30:04
You'd fancy Newcastle to do the job tomorrow to guarantee 3rd so hopefully we go into the last game with it all in our hands.
Also, if the Bournemouth lads know what's good for them and they want to get out of GP in one piece, they'd better be focused on packing for the beach….
Overall I'm feeling a lot better and given the board won't even come to the ground you'd hope the club is finally sold in the summer.
230 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:42:13
If it was you, dear reader, please step forward!
231 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:50:45
232 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:50:45
233 Posted 21/05/2023 at 18:58:21
'From 'Bielsa ball to this. I'd rather watch the One Show'.
Relegation just isn't the catastrophe for them that it would be for us. The price you pay for being footballing royalty I guess
234 Posted 21/05/2023 at 19:07:48
235 Posted 21/05/2023 at 19:14:45
And our league is the oldest in the world.
236 Posted 21/05/2023 at 19:23:37
If you're hoping for despair from Allardyce, you'll be disappointed. It's an easy payday for him. Four games against the Champions, a Champions League team, a European finalist and Spurs. Nobody expected them to survive. If they do, he's a genius; if they don't, he's been in the impossible job. Either way, he gets a fat paycheck.
As for Moyes, apparently he refused to let the West Ham players celebrate after Thursday so they could focus on the Leeds game. I don't imagine that had anything to do with deliberately helping Everton and was more classic dour Davey. But it was to our advantage.
Personally, I'm not in the anti-Moyes brigade. I think he did the best he could with us and better than others have with more money. But I don't pine for his return or indeed any of our ex-managers' return. Even Howard Kendall couldn't roll back the clock.
237 Posted 21/05/2023 at 20:08:22
Staying up is a must financially and for our great fans but, if real change doesn't come, then staying up will be pointless!
Give me strength and leave David Moyes out of this. If West Ham lost today, so what? It's down to us! The league table never lies.
Sad but true that the David Moyes era was the most successful since the '80s. Yes, very sad! He tried with average and did well.
All I know is, if new owners come in and we keep our Premier League status, then on the field is no quick fix. Buying our way out won't happen. Therefore the manager will need to buy on the cheap and find a style that gets points.
Forget Man City and Top 4 or Top 6. Staying put and being competitive is key. Actually, a manager used to a tight budget and being competitive is required until the stadium and finances are stable.
Really, we all need the season over!!
238 Posted 21/05/2023 at 20:26:07
But league title glory, I believe, has passed us by forever.
239 Posted 21/05/2023 at 20:30:45
240 Posted 21/05/2023 at 20:42:44
Of course he has always been backed to the hilt in terms of money wherever he has been, but it's no easy task to manage big name players and of course he is totally involved in the hiring and firing of all players and coaching, and there is no doubting this man makes great players even better - I like him!
I think the the holy grail of Champions League winners is nailed on this year - surely they won't blow it this time.
It's a crazy thought, but if the stories are true about the owners of City wanting us before they spoke to them, Guardiola could have been managing us !
Who knows what will happen down the line, but if we stay up next Sunday, as others have pointed out - we have sunk so low that a few pints in the pub celebrating survival in the premier league is the best feeling we are going to have for a right few years !
It is truly awful the downward spiral this great club is and has been on these last five years.
I forgot to add - how the fuck Allerdyce compared himself to Guardiola is not even funny!
241 Posted 21/05/2023 at 20:59:42
Kenwright has a lot to answer for.
242 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:00:10
I'm not convinced that Leeds, have the belief and brains, to beat a flat Spurs, but the last day of the season, always turns up some strange results.
Hopefully this time next week, all Evertonians, are celebrating, staying in this League, and then to gaze, and consider, what happens next. Fair play to West Ham, today, who out classed Leeds.
This club, the Evertonians, can survive these decades of slumber and the last two chronic years, then, we can survive literally, any thing this League can conjure up.
But the board, must be replaced and a new era of rebuilding, no and healing the relationship, with the fans must be a priority. Takeover, part buy ins, who really knows, what's fact or fiction.
Until, this is achieved, I see the same volatile, gung ho, madness, which has brought the club to its knees.
But one step, at time, and for the Skunks, to beat Leicester, tomorrow night, and then Everton beat Bournemouth, and Spurs can, draw or beat Leeds, next Sunday.
UTFTs!
243 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:07:04
My old man always used to have a bet on the opposition in important games on the basis if the worst happened he would at least have a little sweetener!
He could swallow losing his money if his beloved team won.
244 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:12:27
It will be the perfect stage to do that IMO.
245 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:17:49
I won't sit any easier until 10pm tomorrow.
After that I can wait til next weekend before starting to feel sick again.
246 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:18:54
247 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:43:42
Matt Leicester are crap and won't get anywhere at the Skynks place. They will qualify for CL when they tonight so they will be up for it
248 Posted 21/05/2023 at 21:49:17
249 Posted 21/05/2023 at 00:17:26
Then you take a moment and think is that how low our football club has sunk, celebrating escaping relegation for the second season in a row, should we survive, I feel sick just thinking about it, two f a cup finals since 1995, and almost the same amount of time, bar 1 year, we have survived a relegation scare on 4 different occasions.
Was that f a cup final loss to Chelsea our so called good times,because I cannot recall many good times, apart from the odd Derby win or two.
Unbelievable how low our Football club has sunk, something has to be done this summer.
250 Posted 22/05/2023 at 01:01:08
Wholeheartedly agree regarding Onana. He definitely weakens us. I'd sell him to the highest bidder. Its almost as if Evertonians are willing him to be something he clearly isn't.
He's slow of thought and movement. He lacks imagination and creativity and far too often simply strolls through a game. The master of the back pass.There is no way in a million years we'd have achieved the Brighton result had he played.
I hear people say, he's one for the future, or he'd look good in a better team. Nonesense. There has been no conclusive evidence whatsoever to substantiate those rash claims.
Against Brighton, quick slick passing, tenacious tackling and lightening reflexes brought the goals.
From what I've seen so far, Onana displays none of those attributes.
Considering that Holgate has previously played well, when selected to play a defensive midfield role by Duncan Ferguson in the past, I'd even give him preference over Onana, if the circumstances demanded it.
251 Posted 22/05/2023 at 03:56:45
Keep the faith. Leicester to lose tomorrow and we beat Bournemouth. There's lots to talk about regarding Everton. But right now there's only one thing I care about - stay up.
252 Posted 22/05/2023 at 05:11:17
If we can't draw at home with Bournemouth when our survival is on the line then we deserve to be in the Championship.
What a terrible season it's been. I actually think Dyche has done pretty well considering the appalling squad given to him and he's had a tough fixture list as well. The only result he's had which was really disappointing was against an annoyingly useful Fulham.
253 Posted 22/05/2023 at 10:04:35
although it might not seem much, getting a last-gasp goal like that could really boost the teams mentality going into the Bournemouth game. We should be able to beat them at home and am confident we will - but this is Everton we are talking about!
Injuries are the obvious concern for our last game. I think Patterson and DCL are out if they have picked up hamstring problems. Holgate in at RB for me and Gray in up top. Not ideal but best option for the situation we will prob be in. Just hope Mykolenko is back at LB or it will get tricky again!
I would seriously think about sticking Michael Keane up front in a 2 with Gray if we are losing with 10 minutes to go. Get it long to him and let him knock it down for Gray/Doucoure joining in. He seems to be something of a magnet for the ball in the opposition box (as at the wkd) and has the composure to pick the right option. Good striker of the ball and good header too.
Final comment - I truly fear for DCL's future in top level football. He seems stuck in this cycle of injury, months off, handful of games and then injury again. Been happening for a few years now. Even Dyche's kid-glove approach this time hasn't worked. I think injuries could do for him unfortunately and see him retiring early. Massive shame if that does happen and hope I'm wrong.
254 Posted 22/05/2023 at 13:18:06
Your last paragraph I agree with. DCL has been snake-bitten with injuries.
There's simply some players who get hurt more often than not in every single sport on earth. Hell, Everton have had a few through the years: Louis Saha and Darren Gibson spring to mind. Both were damn good footballers - Saha could just score and his touch was immaculate, Gibbo's range of passing and his positioning on the pitch were fantastic. But neither of them could make a difference as they were constantly in the treatment room.
Dom is no different. Amazing hold up play, excellent striker, but continually hurt.
It's sad, but we have to recognize the repetition here and move on. Dom is not an asset because he drains resources (read money) and there's not enough of a return on investment for what we're receiving back. We should be learning these lessons from experiences like Saha and Gibbo.
With a heavy heart and as amicably as is humanly possible, with well-wishes pouring, I'd trade Dom this summer and invest in another striker.
You can have all the talent in the world. If you only play 15-16 out of 38+ games, and you're in and out of the lineup ruining any continuity in the squad, you're not an asset. It's just that simple. Ruthless, but true.
Everton can not afford another season without a goal-scoring striker. Dom's injury woes are directly proportional to where we've finished the last two seasons. And we can't let this shit happen again. Two years in a row is simply unacceptable.
After this season I think we should move on from Dom.
255 Posted 22/05/2023 at 13:50:24
But some players do just seem to get injured a lot. James Vaughan had a knack of picking up weird injuries including a severed artery! His style of play probably contributed to that.
I'm hopeful for Dom. The injury (quad) he first had last year is a terrible injury that causes all sorts of problems and takes ages to get right. Hopefully he can have a decent pre season and stay fit. Regardless of who he's playing for.
Still, it's pretty obvious that we need to bring in more than one striker at the club. In fact it's at best negligent or at worst self sabotage that we didn't do it in July or January.
Might be best all round to let Dom move on. But with our budget, can we really trust the club to sign potential rather than another couple of Maupay's?
256 Posted 22/05/2023 at 14:07:58
Bellends I think is the Scouse vernacular.
257 Posted 23/05/2023 at 10:09:52
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1 Posted 20/05/2023 at 14:03:46
Lots of central midfielders in there.