Dyche announced as the next Everton manager

I think he will, but hopefully won't listen to Kenwright's tales from a bygone age, that's not relevant to anything in the 21st Century.

Just read Frank's message, it didn't work out but he's a likeable man with no bitterness.

That being the case, Dyche is no surprise, but nor would Bielsa have been a surprise. I think Steve Ferns is probably right that we wouldn't meet his demands (although I would guess it's more a case of couldn't than wouldn't) and, as Sam H points out, he invariably has a full pre-season with a club when he takes over.

I hope Dyche can keep us up or, failing that, manages to put together a plan that the board can get behind to see us promoted in our first season in the Championship. If we can kick off in the Premier League in the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, I'll be delighted.

Good luck to him, as we desperately need him to succeed in the short-term. All fans should get behind him and I’m sure they will.

He will probably be interviewed in TalkSport 5 hours before his appointment is announced on the club’s website.

“Can you bring us back up, Sean?”

He’s only getting the job because the club is run by a gang of absolute tossers and nobody else wants to know us. Why would they?

But hey, Bill is a lovely and well-respected man in football.

Can we just fold and start again as St Domingo Vale?

Trying to play Man City and Arsenal type football without the right players is asking to get beat.

Dyche has had to manage with ordinary players who are not the best and proved he is adaptable to what he's got. Also, I think his no-nonsense up-beat personality is one of his strongest points; I don't see any downsides to him myself.

He'll have to perform a minor miracle this season to keep us up though, what we are facing now as a club is the biggest crisis for donkey's years.

Or we just could not afford Bielsa and his team; in that case, I think we have dodged a bullet.

For the last few months no Everton player has remotely looked like they know what they are meant to be doing. Players will respond to clarity of direction, formation simplicity and knowing their roles.

Fucking Burnley (sorry John Senior).

We are Everton for fuck's sake. Sorry again, I'm emotive.

Only days ago we were told the DoF would make the decision. Now either there was nothing left on the managerial supermarket shelves or this smacks of board and owner interference yet again and not allowing the DoF to be empowered to do his job.

When do we play Arsenal?

It's all about survival as a football club until Moshiri, Billy the liar and our Board are replaced.

Just read he was a red shite fan!

I'm not a huge fan of the football he plays, but I am an admirer of the man - he's also a good laugh in interviews and doesn't take any shit from anyone.

I still think we'll get relegated anyway, regardless.

No club of our stature would even consider this guy... except us.

For fuck's sake.

Poor style of football and struggled with Burnley even when he had a bit of money.

Championship here we come.

Bielsa would not have the players he needed. He's not what we need right now. It would be as futile as him going to Forest Green Rovers. A waste of time.

Sean, get a striker in before Tuesday's deadline. UTFTs

Bielsa's methods would have taken too long to make a difference. Davide Ancelotti is untried at any level.

I'm just glad we didn't go and appoint someone who's never managed in the Premier League. History seems to indicate that clubs that go out and find foreign managers at the end of January tend to be relegated. Think Felix Magath or Pepe Mel.

It does tend to be the old guard that seems to keep teams up. Dyche will have a tremendously difficult job keeping us up but I feel that it's the right kind of appointment given our current situation.

Also, do we know that Thelwell wanted someone else or is that just speculation?

I think a lot now depends on how the transfer window pans out; still a chance we could see Gordon go (he's bang average at this level anyway) and possibly Onana.

I am not confident we will stay up, I think the damage is too far gone at this club.

Like I said earlier, Bielsa has never started coaching a first team mid-season. Timing was wrong.

Re Dyche, let's see if we can look beyond the stereotype. Many people (including myself) said that Howe would not be the best choice as his team conceded way too many goals and now he's managing the team with the tightest defense in the Premier League.

"What I've learned down the years is: why fight the box you're put in?

"4-4-2, pretty direct, defensive football. On the positive side, hard-working, strong team ethic, strong feel, good coach.

"I don't mind it being that. Whatever job I get, if I get one, I want the fans to know they've got a team that is going to give everything, that they've got a team that is going to work, the team is going to have a heart.

"That won't change – definitely not. What I do is look at the technical understanding of the team, the tactical understanding of the team, what their background is, where they've been and what has been their influences.

"You have to piece that together and start moulding that into a team. That's how I personally view how football should work within a team. If you get that right, the rest will work out for itself."

I feel your pain and frustration, the DOF position at Everton is an absolute joke which of course is consistent with so many other aspects of how the club is being run.

Take some hope that, with Dyche in charge, we have a better chance of surviving than with Lampard. Take some hope that, with a bigger budget, he might acquire better quality players that will allow us to play in a more positive and attractive manner than was the case with his last club.

Without hope, we have nothing!

You have got three days to give Everton a chance of staying in the Premier League, the most important 3 days in our recent history.

Get Gordon sold for £35 million and get in someone who can score and someone who can create.

Not too much to ask, is it???

Remember Kendall came to us from Preston… and Moyes came to us from Preston… it's short-sited to be dismissive of Burnley.

Good Luck, Sean.

We will / may start moving forward when we all accept that we are a middling sort of club, albeit with a fine fanbase and history.

He will go 4-4-2 though with Calvert-Lewin flickin some headers on for Maupay or another striker… if we ever fuckin sign anyone.

Plus having watched Burnley quite a bit under him, he likes to get crosses into the box, something we have deffo lacked.

Shows the board haven't got much of a clue though if you believe it was him and Bielsa the main two in the running as they are two completely different managers.

Good luck, Sean. You're gonna need it.

It's a big ask, none of the teams down with us look hopeless so we are going to need to be picking up points most weeks just to stay above Southampton!

He deserves this chance, 10 years at Burnley, turning them into a top flight club remarkably. Must admit, if I took over at Burnley I don't think I'd be getting and keeping them in the Premier League.

He's clearly a top coach. The main wish I have now is that the fans just give him a chance and stay off his back.

Four days to go on the transfer market, and a late sacking and appointment may be too little too late. Good luck, give it your best, get the players on board and let’s beat Arsenal and the red shite to start with.

Christ.

I'm going

Pickford-Patterson-Mykolenko-Tarkowski-Mina-Onana-Iwobi-Gray-McNeil-Calvert Lewin-Simms

All subject to fitness and any transfer moves between now and Tuesday of course.

Maybe a contract until the end of the season, then review it. Although, if he has the same negotiation skills as Allardyce, he'll get an 18-month contract.

Shame I spent years telling them he was a dinosaur who played God-awful football. I can hear their laughs now, from miles away.

All we can look forward to is playing 4-4-2 hoofball and 35% possession with 1 shot on target!!

I find this appointment quite embarrassing and I'd have much rather have gone fighting under Bielsa than watch turgid, negative shite. But, he's here now, he is our manager and we must support him.

Hopefully he'll bring us stability and organisation (along with survival this season, obviously) for 18 months; then we can bring in a young, progressive mana...blah, blah, blah!!

Fuckin Everton...I hate how much I care but I just can't stop myself.

A straightforward manager who will hopefully give us something to cheer.

Welcome, Sean.

Make life easy for yourself. Bring in a midfield general to help Gueye and get the team playing as a unit.

And bring in a hard-working forward.

COYB!

People don't give Sean Dyche enough credit; two seasons ago, Burnley finished 7th and in the Europa League. They beat us, Liverpool & Arsenal away, the current Premier League leaders, in what was an average team.

I recall a certain Dwight McNeil scoring a peach of a goal and he was putting a tackle in everywhere! Carra on commentary that day said he was the best player on the pitch! Only 21 at the time!!!

So let's welcome Sean to Goodison and get behind him and hope we have 3 new signings before the Arsenal game!!!

Please stop introducing common sense into this hysterical debate!

The “Dyche Out” battle lines are already been drawn up.
After all, we had such a plethora of world-class managers all clamouring for the job, why choose him?

I just hope he has been given more than a 6-month contract.
I can imagine the conversation now: “Thanks for keeping us up, Sean, but you don't play football the Everton Way so we are not extending your contract.”

Or: “We only hired you to keep us up, Sean, and you failed, so we are not renewing your contract but we thank you for all you've done for the club and wish you well in your future career.”

Just imagine how much notice a bunch of over-paid, under-achieving players are going to take of what he is trying to accomplish when they know he's likely to be out of the door at the end of the season?

Anyway, I thought a revolving door of constantly changing managers was something we virtually all agreed was a bad thing for the club? Don't we want a period of stability?

Sometimes, I just don't get some of the thinking that goes on on this site!

Or survival is entirely dependent on finding goals and we won't find them in the current team.

I doubt Thelwell strained his grey matter too much with this appointment. Hopefully he's at least preoccupied with a genius signing.

Maybe they are the only ones that 'get us'?

I've just been trawling some real-life, not game-based, player databases, and found this guy: Ion Nicolaescu playing in the Israeli League. Doesn't sound much, but he looks very quick, has great upper body strength, plays with both feet, obviously has a footballing brain, and only costs €600k (approx. £500k) He has good statistics and is at a good age for resale when he makes it in the Premier League.

Go get him, Sean & Kevin...

You tube link here, Highlight reel

Official promotional video Promo Video

Welcome Sean, by the way, now keep us up please, pretty please...

That song will only be appropriate for the rest of the season because, come May, he will be grey or bald or both. Good luck, lad, you are going to need it.

Well, statistically the answer is Yes. Is he going to get our shower of a team playing attractive football at the same time? Unlikely.

Our football to the end of the season should be pragmatic stuff based on needs must. This has the best chance of keeping us up so is what we need this time round. Job done. I hope.

However, it's his draw ratio plus a few wins that will keep us up. I can't seem to find those draw ratio stats for him versus Lampard's.

1. Everton were not in the relegation zone then.
2. This squad is considerably weaker than that one
3. There are no really bad teams this season apart from Everton.

Dyche needs to get at least two strikers in before the window shuts and he may save Everton. Lampard would have taken them down for sure.

Joking apart, I believe this to be the most realistic appointment. Bielsa would have neither had the time, nor the players (inherited) ,nor probably the backing of the Board for finances and may have walked. Davide Ancelotti would I believe have been a good choice but again the wrong time, why didn't he step in when dad went? Maybe one for the future.

When you look at Dyche's record at Burnley, he had little funding but managed to keep them up punching above their weight several times, beating some big named sides too. Their fans idolised him, I remember the Dyche masks too.

Now the interesting part starts, we have technically enough games and points to play for to achieve safety, will he be backed in the Transfer market as we definitely need bolstering up front and midfield? At least he has 3 or 4 days to negotiate, not long, but better than nothing, I suppose.

Welcome aboard, you have my backing. The Future May Be Bright, The Future's Ginger!

“No club of our stature”????? We just escaped last season and are joint bottom half-way into this season. We last won a trophy back in 1995!!

We have to leave our past in the past – times have changed and our manager's job is a poisoned chalice that very few guys fancy. Our stature is at an all-time low and we need to rebuild from the bottom.

Dyche will give us a solid defence and hopefully get some pace into it. The midfield has been a shambles for a long time and Dyche will make sure whoever he picks knows exactly what their role is and god help them if they don't perform.

What he needs is a striker, as we all know, and if Gordon goes we will have some decent money for one.

If Dyche can stabilise us, then let's see if he has it in him to then build a decent young team with energy and desire.

In the meantime, the fans need to get behind the team like last season and stop all this defeatist crap – we are not adrift and there's plenty of games left so less of the “I'm finished with the club” nonsense and do what we were all born to do and support our team!!!

Lee; we'll meet up at the match soon. We both can't help ourselves!!

Happy days!!! UTFTs

The Mail saying Biesla turned it down, doesn't make sense that he'd fly all the way here just to say he didn't want it. His demands were probably too much, but I think he'd have been a disaster.

Some comments on here that the DOF wanted a different manager, but if he had a personal choice, wouldn't he have at least got an interview? I believe so.

Dyche comes across as a strong individual, and brought Burnley as far as he could, and didn't he fall out with the new owners? He deserves a chance with a big club (not trying to be funny); we'll see what he's made of.

Frank left with dignity, said a nice few words about the club and fans, I don't think he mentioned the board?

The right man in at the right time.

Let’s all 100% get behind him.

Including us!

Aside from the obvious difference in experience, I can't see much difference in his philosophy to Bug Dunc. I'm not saying Dunc should have got the gig, but we've had plenty of managers state that hard work is the key and failed.

Good luck to him and I hope he gets some time, but I also hope we haven't just rolled in another Benitez or Allardyce.

Like all previous managers, he needs the workshy players to put in the effort.

Aw well, we start again, with two very tough fixtures coming up.

I hope to be proved wrong, but Burnley was not the shitshow we are atm. Plus we have a week to do transfer business and Chris Woods is already at Forest, so where does he turn?

A 2½-year contract seems about right; I never thought that Dyche would be our manager when we departed Goodison and arrived at the new place.

So another massive payoff further down the line. We never learn.

The good thing is that no more time is wasted. He has a week to prepare for Arsenal.

At this time of the season, and in Everton's position, you have to take what you can get – much like the signing of players.

He did well with a ragtag bunch at Burnley, so why not here?

Like last January, it's déjà vu time… so fingers crossed.

I just hope our board of incompetents have sorted the terms in advance. Because if not, we have very publicly backed ourselves into a corner with a short list of two, one of which had already expressed reservations about taking the role even before the interview. In basic negotiating strategy, we would be in a very weak position in relation to Dyche's demands as of now.

Of course our board are not as useless as that. Are they?

Good luck, Sean, if it's confirmed.
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I think the board aren't just incompetent, they act in bad faith.

I don't think it was Bielsa who released the info about him having reservations, I think that call came from inside the house.

A two-horse race of two horses that should never have been in the running.

We still end up with the lessor of the two.

It would be unbelievable, apart from the fact it follows on from the many 'wrong managers' appointed by a Moshiri-led board. Pathetic!

It hasn't yet been confirmed so I'm still hopeful it never is. IMO, a second rate Sam in experience, track record, motivation and football style.

My only hope are his finances are minimal so we can get rid asap without too much of a payout. But given Moshiri's terrible record of getting shafted, I doubt it.

I just don't get why we don't plan in advance – we are repeating our approach – same with player transfers and waiting til the bitter end each window.

''Sean Dyche football manager and former player who was most recently the manager of Everton.''

I know we get through managers quickly but this is taking the piss.

I remember when Klopp arrived, there was that unpleasant rumour and literally half-an-hour later he was giving his press conference. Here, it feels like we are still operating in the 1950s. Just so fucking shoddy.

I just hope he is lucky and a couple of points from his first games in charge would represent some progress. It will be interesting to see what happens in this transfer window, particularly with Anthony Gordon seemingly set to leave. Clearly, we need extra options up front and in midfield and what about a left-sided defender, anybody?

I will now renew my season ticket next week and hope for a brighter future.

Let's get behind him; sound bloke and he takes no nonsense from anyone. I felt Frank was too much of a mate with the players. UTFT!

I look forward to seeing us become well organised in open play and at set-pieces, hard-working and direct. All of this sounds very much like Joe Royle, by the way.

I also think he'll help us recruit players who are a good fit for the club.

More than anything, I think we can stay up now. It will be very hard but we have a decent chance.

Let's hope we have to name a pub after him.

Good luck to him.

He should get us organised too. That might just be enough to rescue the situation. We can't look further than May right now.

Dyche is a big upgrade on Lampard and hopefully will see the end of the pass-and-stand-still possession system. We can't be much worse.

Make a decision and get on with it.

I'm past caring who is in the dugout, I don't even look at it these days. I just want someone who can get the team ready for Arsenal and Anfield.

Get on with it.

And then get on with making the real change in the summer once we get over the line again.

Right now, I just want points and I'm not particularly bothered who helps the team get them regardless of my views and opinions.

I think I'll be listening to the Eagles again this evening to calm myself.

For the record and I know they are only words, but very nice words from Frank Lampard on social media.

I just hope we can get a striker or 2 in. Then I'd be much more confident of how the season will pan out.

No more "Calvert-Lewin is our talisman" bollocks from Frank.

I'll be getting right behind him because, if he does well, then my club is doing well.

If he keeps us up, that would be an extremely good start because, let's face it, we're absolutely shite at the moment.

Hoping that Dyche will change a few opinions on here, and in a positive way. At least he just about has enough time both in the Transfer Window to strengthen – I hope he is given sufficient funds – and enough games left to at the very least keep our 70-year record in the Top Flight intact.

One: to maintain our top-flight status; and

Two: to bring about meaningful change at Board level!

The anti brigade won't be able to help themselves. They will be itching to say “We should have got x or y” and if it goes wrong they can be the know-it-alls who can then refer back to how ‘wise' they are as they will say they never wanted him in the first place.

Me, given where we are, I think it's a pragmatic and prudent appointment and will be right behind him.

I hope he can work miracles and somehow keeps us up. First call of business is find a way for the team to score.

McNeil and Mykolenko to fire in curling crosses, sometimes from the touchline just inside the half-way. line. Keane to be reinstated as centre-back.

It won't be pretty but at least we'll try to play forwards.

He never ever proved to be a good manager either with Burnley or especially at Blackburn.

I can see us even struggling in the Championship next season with his poor style and tactics.

Moshiri’s dithering and Lampard's loitering for his payoff has cost us big time.

It should have been done during the World Cup break though.
That is why this board are useless.

Finished 7th with Burnley in the Premier League and only spent 10 bob!!

If Frank got us to 7th, you'd want him knighted!!!

I wanted Gallardo, but with him never really being linked, either the club did not want him or he did not want to come. The club do know of Gallardo, as Brands had him top of the list when we appointed Ancelotti. If Gallardo said no, and I had to work through the list of the favourites with the bookies, Marcelino was more attractive than Dyche.

I wrote on here about why I did not think it was right to go after Bielsa. I think I was right but, between him and Dyche, there is no question for me. The issues were age, Bielsa is 67 and his energy levels are not what they once were.

Not an issue for someone like Ancelotti who stands passively on the sidelines at training. Someone who whispers wise words into the ears of players. Someone who sees tweaks and makes them to win games.

Bielsa is not someone stood on the sidelines. He is in the middle of it in training. Like a young coach. Watch the many, many YouTube videos and you'll see him ranting and raving at his players to do what he wants. When they do, he is bellowing encouragement. He looks like he is going to give himself a heart attack.

A proper Bielsa is like this and the 67-year-old has lost a bit of it.

Also, I was worried that Bielsa does not have time to prepare. He watches more tape of games than any other manager. He is famous for it. The only one who can rival him is Benitez. The modern coach relies on a team of analysts instead. Bielsa being 67 still prefers to do it all himself. He makes little videos for each player. Things to do, things to work on.

Before taking a job, he does his due diligence. He has never taken a job mid-season – ever. Taking the Everton job was not something I thought he would do, mid-season.

He wants to watch every minute of every game for at least the last three seasons. Not just watch the game, but study it. Study what each player is doing at each given moment. Meticulous detail of the player and his movements, his attributes, and have an idea of how he can or cannot use the player.

Then he wants a long pre-season to work with them. To get them ready for the fitness levels he requires. This all takes time. He cannot do it mid-season.

However, Marcelo flew in to London for talks. This is a big step. This is not politely telling the club, No. This is Bielsa having considered it carefully and thinking there is a way it works.

Perhaps, at 67, he is thinking he has not got many opportunities left, this could be his last job. Once he flew into London, I knew he wanted to take the job. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise. No-one flies in from South America and simply says No.

Bielsa is a control freak. No doubt about that. But some misconstrue this. They think this means he wants to control transfer policy. Not at all. Bielsa wants the final say, for sure. No one leaves and no one comes in unless he agrees to it.

But Bielsa does not scout players. He does not talk to agents. He does not want to nip over to Blackburn to watch Ben Brereton Diaz playing. He wants to work with a Director of Football.

He will give a profile of a player. A list of attributes that the player must have. Then the scouts will find a few, the DoF will negotiate the transfers and contracts and Bielsa will give his consent.

At Lazio, Bielsa agreed to take the job. Lazio were in a mess. He resigned before a ball was kicked. The President had agreed to sign 5 or 6 players, the players were all agreed by Bielsa, the President and the recruitment team. They were all attainable. Lazio signed none of them, and so he resigned.

At Argentina, Bielsa dropped Argentina's best player. Juan Roman Riquelme. At the height of his powers. He will take on the big star. He will get rid of him if he does not like him. He had the whole country against him.

Bielsa is strong enough to take everyone on. The reason he got rid of Riquelme is not that he was super slow. It was that he is the archetypical Argentina Number 10. Strolls around, hands on hips. and foot on the ball. Bielsa, as you know, wants high-tempo football. He could have used the slow Riquelme, but only if he kept the ball moving fast.

His passing ability would have worked in his system, but Riquelme had too much clout and refused to play Bielsa's way. So Bielsa dropped him. This act, and the many times he did exactly the same thing, shows you that Bielsa can sort out our squad. He can do what none of the managers since Moyes has done, and take on the shirkers. His way or no way.

Why did Silva fail? Probably because he lacked the authority and strength of character to impose his will on the players. They threw him under the bus, they made his tactics look flawed.

Bielsa would not allow them to do that to him. He would drop any one of them. He would not hesitate to replace a star name with a youth player who will do exactly what they are told.

Allardyce used to drill the defence. We had a great well-drilled defence as a result. It was not him personally but his legion of coaches. When it came to the attack, Allardyce said he had talented players and they could figure it out for themselves. Our players could not.

The modern player is not like an '80s player. They do not want to think for themselves. Academies do not teach them to think for themselves. They are programmed how to think and what to do, and when given freedom they produce the zombie football we all hate.

Bielsa sorts this out. He teaches players how to run, where to run, where to expect others to run. He programs into the players what the Americans call "plays". This, in case you have not guessed, is pre-determined movements by the players.

This is something other coaches have copied for well over a decade now. There's countless videos on YouTube of Bielsa coaching top coaches how to do it. Players do not have to think for themselves, they are programmed where to go and what to do.

As for the defence, Bielsa is defensively sound. So many make out that he is Kevin Keegan. Score more than the opposition, we will win 5-4. That is not Bielsa's thinking at all. Bielsa does not want this to happen. Bielsa likes to defend high up the pitch.

He invented the hounding of the player on the ball that coaches like Guardiola and Klopp adapt so well. Sure, he did not actually invent it, and as my father told me when I used to rave about Bielsa to him, "We used to do it, we just called it closing down, son".

Sure, we did do closing down in the 80s and perhaps before, but not to the extent that Bielsa does. These days, it is all about beating the press. the press Bielsa pioneered. But after having people trying to beat his press for so many years, Bielsa knows better than anyone how to stop this, how to adapt to the press being beaten.

His Chile team played a 3-1-3-3 formation. It's usually written as 3-3-1-3, but make no mistake he had a DM in front of that back 3. This formation had no width. None at all. The middle was congested. Teams could not beat the press through the middle if that's where everyone was.

So they go wide, and Bielsa's tactics were always about forcing the opposition wide. Force them to run further and you can get back. Look how many goals his teams other than Leeds conceded and you'll see that it was not Kevin Keegan attacking tactics.

I do not believe this rubbish about Bielsa coaching the Under-21s. I note the journalists peddling this narrative all have Kenwright connections. He is spinning this round so Dyche does not look bad. The club is trying to deflect away from the reality.

What is the reality? Well, I do not know, I was not privy to it. Bielsa would not have come here to simply say No. He boarded the plane with every intention of saying Yes. He will have offered a way to fix Everton, not just this season but long term.

Bielsa would not want to sign big-name stars, he would want players he has worked with, or players he knows we can sign. Young and hungry. With him in charge for a sustained period, spending would be at a minimum. He would keep the squad he had and only make changes to fix injury issues, loss of form, transfers out, or something of that nature.

If Bielsa felt there was a way to make it work at Everton, and he would not have boarded a plane unless that was indeed the case, then it is disappointing that we have not listened and acquiesced to his demands.

As for Dyche. He is not a bad manager. He always protests, as does Allardyce, that he can play better football if given the opportunity. Well, here it is. We are only 2 points off safety. We are only 3 points off 14th.

Okay, we are going to lose our next two matches. We would expect to be about 4 points off safety and well adrift of that middle section. But then comes Leeds Utd (h), Aston Villa (h), Nottm Forest (a), Brentford (h). 4 winnable games. If we win 3 of them, then I would expect us to be back in the middle of that middle section and above the relegation zone.

The other thing that occurs to me is this: forget Lampard. Imagine we went from Benitez to Dyche. The football we played under the Spaniard is similar to what we can expect under Dyche. The players are mostly the same type. The playing style is similar. It is not a big jump. It is only a year ago.

Squad-wise, the big loss from the Benítez days is Richarlison. But other than him, it is Tosun, Kenny, Alli, Branthwaite, Gomes, Rondon, Delph, Gbamin. Only Richarlison is a loss to Dyche, but he will want to replace Tosun & Rondon, as we all do.

As for the signings in since Benitez: Onana, McNeil, Maupay, Garner, Gueye, Tarkowski, Coady, and Vinagre. How many of them are not suited to Dyche? Garner is the first that comes to mind. Vinagre perhaps as well. But the rest will fit his system. He can use them.

With Tarkowski and Keane, he inherits two of his old centre-halves. He will also like Coady, Particuarly with playing a deeper line, like he did at Burnley. This will then bring out the best from Mykolenko.

Coleman's pace is less of an issue sitting deep. Perhaps Patterson is ill-suited to Dyche, but he did well with Trippier. Maybe he can work on Patterson.

The midfield with Onana, Gueye, Doucoure, and Davies vying for a central two, then that surely would be satisfactory to Dyche's requirements. Iwobi will be shunted to a wide midfield berth.

Gray does not really fit unless he is a forward. Gordon is gone. McNeil will be given a second chance under a man who understands him. Townsend is on his way back and would suit. We definitely need another wide midfielder.

Up front, we know we are desperately short. Calvert-Lewin and Maupay would suit Dyche, if he can get them back on form. Dyche will need another target man, and a more effective second striker than Maupay, unless he can get Gray to play that role.

For me, the squad does more easily suit Dyche. We are not as far behind as we all think. The run of losses makes things seem worse than they are. We just need a few players of quality to suit Dyche's tactics.

I might be bitterly disappointed that we have Dyche instead of Bielsa, but I believe we can be optimistic of beating the drop, regardless. The task is not as difficult as some have been making out.

The possession game is okay if you have a Grealish, Foden, Mahrez etc who can get past a defence with skill. We don't have those players.

We also have a traditional Number 9 who might actually start scoring again if we give him some crosses rather than deciding to pass back again.

It sounds old-fashioned but I think our squad is better suited to getting the ball forward fast and getting crosses in.

Hopefully that is what Dyche will bring.

Dyche will at least try and adapt the style (sure it will be very dour) around the squad.

Hope he starts by putting the 'big heads' within the squad in their place, to many times these wealthy stars are 'wonders in their own right'.

We need these players to knuckle down, start playing at 110% and hopefully get some points on the board, after all, we still have 18 games left to make a difference.

Bielsa would have been a car crash.

There was a stat on ToffeeWeb that we've actually been quite mean at the back and, as we have all been saying, the real problem has been in the attack.

I would expect Dyche to not only sustain that defensive solidity but get the best out of Calvert-Lewin as the target man.

I don't have much faith in many of our players but Dyche could give us a fighting chance to pull clear and then represents calmer waters in coming seasons.

That's the Sean Dyche way. 😀

Just when you think this club couldn't stoop any lower?

Give him a 6-year contract and be done with it.

But of course, you can't possibly have a pre-emptive opinion on this forum, everybody's got to be given a chance, right?

So here's my prediction, for what it's worth. Nobody will want to sign for a Sean Dyche team (understandably), Dwight McNeil will play every game until the end of the season and Everton will be relegated, having finished 20th position!

Agreed. Being optimistic like Howe, he kept a small club in the top flight, played a certain way, and finally had a bad season. Howe has shown he can do more and be more flexible so hopefully Dyche will do likewise.

I’m sitting here reminiscing, the little ginger scraggy kid, has just got to the pinnacle of English football (in my Evertonian mind) and I’m absolutely delighted for him.

He’s built a career, on being a no-nonsense man, and speaking to him last year, (for only the second time in 33 years) he told me that he tells the players, to wear shin pads in training, because nobody is allowed to take it easy and shit out of any tackles.

Let’s not kid ourselves, we might love skill, but above all else us scousers, love this type of football, because it’s probably the first thing that most of us were taught when we were children.

Forget the rocket science, I look over the park and see when Liverpool lose a bit of energy, they begin to struggle because they are built on pragmatic energy, and so was “Kendall’s-Everton”. I’m not saying it’s just a scouse thing, but if you understand Scousers, they love players, who work fucking hard, so start as you mean to go on please Dychey 🤞🙏

Not hugely optimistic, I think poor management has been the symptom of the last 30 years of Johnson, Kenwright and Moshiri, rather than the cause of Everton's decline.

Good luck to Dyche. COYB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YY7PY-IH0

Oh, and welcome back Steve, missed your posts !

At least with Bielsa, he would have probably raided the youth team in the search something new to give hope. Instead prepare to see Burnley Mk II and Keane probably the first name on the team sheet.

Now, Thelwell needs to get cracking with getting 2-3 players in before the transfer window slams shut - 1 big CF to provide genuine competition to Dominic, 1 creative mid-fielder and hopefully a goal scoring wide player.

Perhaps if you still have his number, a call and outlining the fans' view would benefit him in quickly learning about our squad and our boardroom antics

The team needs goals, he’s got to sign a couple of players who can score. Dyche will have done his homework and will have players in mind already. We’ll find out who they are very soon.

With so much at stake he won’t be gambling on young potential in this window. It will be experienced,hard bastard professionals who can score. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the rumoured Arnautovic and Ziyech arrive. Maybe others who are a similar profile , he will be signing players that the opposition will not enjoy playing against.

It’s a short term mindset, but there may be no long term if we don’t get the short term right. So the long term plan can wait until the short term goals are met.

That's Iwobi done for then lol

Was he at Forrest with you back then?

He gets Everton already.

Lol I thought the same

I don't believe his major problem is with the defense, ours is lack of goals and supply from the midfield. I am not sure what financial help he will get before the window closes but it would give him an advantage if he could get a more direct winger and a midfielder with a brain.

Styles, tactics and formations change, good coaches can adapt and learn, lets see if S.Dyche has learned anything since being unemployed that can improve his management style.

In the meantime Welcome to Everton and I hope you brought your Skis as you are on a very slippy slope.

The Everton squad is awful and wouldn't be able to play fast attack and move, there is no Bergkamp, Henry Scholes, Silva etc. I think Sean is the right manager with the squad, seeing as no wholesale changes will take place due to being skint. I wonder if its done damage to his reputation seeing what Vincent Kompany is achieving now. If it has he can try something different for Everton.

Still four days left in the window

You might be surprised to find me saying that, given I spent six of the best years of my life at the other end of Stanley Park. But Everton have always been a club that resonate for me. Graeme Souness (Via the Echo)

He was nothing more than a polite, if not straight talking individual. His love of the city was was very evident and I remember very clearly him saying that he loved the fact it was a proper football loving place.
It was a long time ago but he was an extremely amiable and engaging man who didn't have a bad word for Everton, just honest opinion.

Every day that the new manager cant work with this squad is another day wasted. Apart from the compensation you get when you leave this club, I cant think what would entice anybody to become manager while this owner and board are in place.

I wonder if Bielsa had come what he would think of the likes of Gueye and Davies and their abilities to move the ball, given that he never fancied a player with the ability of Riquelme.

I think Dyche will work on the players' attitudes and get them giving everything. From where we are now, that's at least a start.

Living up to his name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKTPc_TR5kg&ab_channel=TheCoaches%27Voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YY7PY-IH0&ab_channel=TheCoaches%27Voice

I understand that Moshiri is dealing direct with Amanda Stavely over Gordon!
Does this mean that the debacle with the Danjuma saga has pushed Thelwell nearer too the exit door?
It also feels to me that BK is playing less of a part in respect of transfers etc, which can only be good IMO, and if true, DBB being part of the interviewing process!

Good luck to the new manager.

I support Everton. Always have and always will until as long as I can breathe. They frustrate me. They upset me.They make me fall out with the wife. They make my dogs unsettled (that's probably my fault). But they have given me some of the best moments of my life. And they will do again.

See you at the next one blue boys. Regardless of who is is in charge, it's always about us, the supporters. Always has been, always will be.

We love them. We live them.

Although to be fair a large proportion of posters seemed to favour Dyche so I'll take the ride for now.

The important thing was to act quickly and decisively and for Everton this is just that.

Lets hope the players buy into it and we see more confidence and determination from them.

We just need a couple more signings and sort out Gordon and Onana's situations and we'll be in better shape.

Frank for all his charm and sincerity was totally out of his depth so I can only see immediate improvements in team selection and tactics.

Steve Fern great to have you back and interesting in-depth analysis.

I guess it's Ale house with Dyche rather than Jail house with Dunc.

As I have said all along he is perfect for where we are now and may be for the next few years.
The question is can we support the manager for a change, because to keep sacking managers after less than 12 months is crackers and no way forward.

I wasn't meaning to say Dyche is of the ditch more so thinking the ditch is a good analogy for where he finds himself right now based on our league position.

Best appointment with what was available to us, he's got some bollocks.

Good luck to him.

I wanted Frank to succeed terribly. Loved us hiring him. It all fell to shit. There's NO REASON WHATSOVER Everton should be in this position two years in a row. Disgusting and unacceptable.

Sean Dyche will, without question, steady this ship. We HAVE to stay up, we HAVE to have consistency at the managerial position in this club. We need a pair of hands that will see us through the storm to calmer waters. Sean Dyche is that man.

I know him well. My wife is a huge Burnley fan. I think Dyche is a vastly underrated coach who played a brand of footy at Burnley he simply had to play. I think at Everton he'll eventually play a "prettier" brand of footy, and he will be vastly more tactically astute than Lampard.

This is good news. I felt relegation was imminent. Now I feel we'll fight like hell to stay up, and favor us to do so.

Some of this shit won't be pretty. I don't fucking care. Stay up, then express yourself as a team moving forward. Dyche is literally perfect for the task at hand.

But, it’s all agreed with Dyche.

Take another shot of courage
Wonder why the right words never come
You just get numb

It's another tequila sunrise
This old world still looks the same
Another frame

It’s easy to say that Dyche took Burnley down. What about all the seasons in which he potentially kept them up? How many times did he have a direct influence in their survival? Truth is, we don’t know. But given their budgets and size, it was a minor miracle they lasted as long in the Premier League as they did. It could be argued he saved Burnley from relegation many more times than he failed. He also got them promoted twice. That might also come in handy too.

It’s probable none of us really want Dyche. We all wish we weren’t in a position where we need that kind of manager. But we are where we are and I’m personally not seeing any better options for the immediate task at hand.

Hopefully, it's because grass doesn't grow on a busy street !

Or, they are Solar Panels for (Football Knowledge) powering the Great Escape !

A few have really made me think - the CBS (I think) coverage of the end of the Leicester away game last season. The guy that sent it to me commented 'we don't want much do we? A couple of away wins a season the odd brilliant performance at home and the fans will absolutely adore you'.

Someone had dubbed a very soulful violin version of Z Cars over the band playing as the Titanic sinks, which actually brought a tear to my eye.

DK has just sent me video of a Member of Parliament asking questions in the House about our Usmanov links!

I didn't sign up for any of this. I will never ever forgive Kenwright for bringing my club so low, for bringing me to the point where I almost fell out of love with Everton FC. I read guys on here accepting that Dyche is the best we can hope for, he shouldn't even be on the long list, nor should Bielsa, a 67 year old Argentinian who can't speak English and has no intention of learning.

We should expect the best as the norm, we shouldn't have to celebrate beating Palace 3-2 at home or stay behind for 30 mins after the game ends at Leicester because it is our first away win in 8 months. Our new manager list should be inventive filled with guys who want to come and join us, we should have Zidane beating a path to our door for God's sake. Not being happy that we managed to persuade a manager, who was sacked by Burnley, to come and keep us out of the championship.

The level and severity of mismanagement at my club is what needs to be questioned and still the charlatans who 'run' the club sit there smug grins on their faces thinking that appointing Sean Dyche is the answer to our problems.

I despair I really, really do.

I don’t mind what sort of football we play at the moment so long as we stay up. There’ll be time to think about the School of Science later.

If all goes to plan, and when doesn’t it at Everton, Dyche will provide both a quick fix and long-term stability. It’s easy to imagine him staying for a decade, like David Moyes, and quietly overachieving with a team that takes pride in working hard and making life unpleasant for everyone who visits Goodison Park. Style of play may eventually become an issue, but at the moment that’s the least of Everton’s concerns. And Dyche may prove to be a cloth-cutter whose style evolves at a club with greater resources. Everton have tried all kinds of managers since Moyes left in 2013 – Big Cup-winners, firefighters, snake-oil salesmen – but Dyche could be the best fit of the lot. That’s good news for Everton, but it comes with one nagging reservation. If Ol’ Gravel Voice can’t sort Everton out, they might be beyond salvation.

Sums up my feelings. No, I cannot see him staying a decade, but he's the right man for this miserable job right now.

Glad Bielsa declined.

I for one am relieved that we've got him.

He was a scrawny midfielder, broke his leg, went on the weights whilst he was injured, filled out and had a decent career in the lower leagues, when he converted to a central defender. I remember his third division Chesterfield, getting robbed in a FA Cup semi final, at old Trafford against Boro, when he was their captain, and being gutted for him, because he had stayed in the game, and that would have been an incredible achievement.

I saw he was manager at Watford, and asked a Watford fan about him on holiday, because he had been dismissed for Zola, after doing a good job. He told me that Dyche had not deserved the sack, and had been very unfortunate.

He then went to Burnley, promotion and relegation followed, then another promotion, and he genuinely punched above his weight on a regular basis, (not like Moyes, who created a myth after finishing 4th imo) for a few seasons, before he finally dipped last year and got the sack.

We need pragmatism now more than ever, and Dyche’s sidekick, Ian Woan, who is only from the Wirral, was a very cultured footballer, and maybe he might bring Steve Stone, who also got the most out of himself, as a professional footballer, so hopefully after an initial pragmatic approach, he might do a good job, and show people he’s got a few more strings to his bow?

Let’s hope he keeps us up, Moshiri finally sells us, and we can suddenly begin to look forward to moving down to Bramley-Moore🤞 We will soon find out.

A really eccentric bloke.

Yes, Jamie’s post made me smile too, wonderful stuff (thanks Jamie C!)

Good to see do many names back posting again with Jamie C, Mike Gaynes and Steve Ferns all back,

UTFT!

I do believe he will keep us up but personally I would have preferred Corboran or Davide Ancelotti but who knows if they were approached or even interested.

The only positive for me is that Dyche really wanted the job and does at least have some knowledge of the Prem and the teams we face.

Dyche is the ideal appointment for us right now.

Bielsa is a nutcase.

We don't need another 'high concept' manager that will take months for the team to understand, we need a bit of dogs of war, to get some fight back in the team! Currently the team seem about as mentally strong as the average ToffeeWeb liveforum poster! Let's get the clogs on! Arsenal and Liverpool won't like it up 'em! ;-)

Frank was a very good nternational footballer, he wasn’t a very good manager like many good players, I saw Sean Dyche growing up as young player, he wasn’t outstanding but he was a team player, knew his job and stuck at it and made a good living out of the game, a much better living as a manager, ordinary players often make very good managers, maybe Dyche will be one for us, I don’t think he will be as poor as Frank Lampard was for us, is that even possible? Frank’s record with Everton puts him near the bottom of the list if not bottom.

Oh, wait a minute !

There are not many top international players who become successful managers. Revie, perhaps and Clough before he was injured. Most of them came from lower league football, like Dyche.

Sean Dyche.

The problem at Everton is that the ones that are making the decisions regarding the manager and players we need to get rid off. Someone like Bielsa with his expertise would get nowhere and would not be wanted. Dyche would bringx organisation and some discipline, enough hopefully for Premier League survival.

The real work would then have to be done to get rid of the leeches of progress and over the coming years provide an atmosphere conducive to the higher-level capabilities of Bielsa and Silva. The latter who was not strong to overcome the failings of Brands and interference from those that knew it all, but knew nothing.

It's good to be back and I hope your family is doing well too. As I said on one of my few other recent posts, the football we had on offer was so poor this season, I didn't have anything constructive to say and it pained me to read endless despair.

Other than that Palace match and the false hope it provided, we probably should've known that things weren't looking great when we lost 4-0 to the mighty Minnesota United FC on that beautiful summer night.

But alas one of the many beautiful things about sport is that there will always be hope and true fans can never quit their club. And we ride the rollercoaster together. It ain't rock bottom yet, but we can't fall much farther, so I'm back to help us inch back up.

Which is why I think it will likely lead to a level of improvement that might fill us all with false optimism again.

I predict a Moyes like tenure.

They need belief and to play as a team which they can do.
There are enough games left to pick up the required points
and why should we be afraid to go to Liverpool these days?
coybs.

I would like to think he has been concentrating on finding a player somewhere on the planet that knows where the fucking goal is, can use it, and can be persuaded to come here if he's fucking bonkers enough.

who had a wonderful idea

to grow a circular beard

that all other teams would fear

he grew a DISC BEARD

A DISC BEARD !!!

Howard Kendall was criminally overlooked for an England cap.

Mikel Arteta never played for Spain because they had the best midfielders in the world at the time.

Don Revie won only half a dozen caps for England.

Brian Clough's international career was curtailed by injury after only two caps.

We had better get moving pronto or we are certain to struggle.

It won't be pretty but I'll support him. We must stay up, to go down will be a disaster for the club that could take many years to rectify.

I posted here last season just after Dyche had been sacked saying it was great news for us as he'd have kept Burnley up. No idea if he would have done, but after the new manager bounce they did go down (fortunately).

Zack, cheer up, you're an Evertonian, we will have to battle through. 😂🤞

I feel no gratitude whatsoever to Lampard. He was useless and incompetent but walked away with multi millions.

We stayed up despite him not because of him. The support base was incredible and we got lucky playing certain teams at the right time when they had nothing to play for.

My own view on his football is that he's a tough taskmaster but results-driven and not good to watch but survival in this League must prevail.

Time to reset and the season starts now; hopefully Everton can get a couple of strikers and I'll say a few more players on the gauge, some players could be leaving Everton.

Hopefully some stability and hope to take forward in this fight to stay up.

17 games, and possibly a win rate of 7-9 games will be a huge task, but it's so tight at the bottom half of the table, it's wide open...

The gap can't grow so the next two games will give an idea if there's a new manager bounce.

UTFTs!

sounds like you're a fan of that disc beard. Go get yourself a can of tuna and you, too, can flex the cut.

Fair enough, if you guys think he's the man for the job, that's more than good enough for me, and I will support him all the way. If he can get some passion out of these players and a semblance of a system, then he will deserve backing.

Over to you, Sean… and please spend the Gordon cash wisely!!

I think that's the general consensus. We could appoint Guardiola right now and still go down. No sense appointing a manager who wants us to play decent football, because our players are incapable. At least they're incapable of learning how to before we're relegated.

Dyche is a pragmatic appointment. I don't imagine he'll take us very far but he's maybe the best candidate to get us to 17th.

I can't claim that as my own. That is from Bob Mortimer's Football podcast. So funny. He does a mean Sean Dyche.

Dyche is sort of like a jollier, more palatable Allardyce, but he knows how to organize things and grind out results. I'm not sure how people can post that they just want a hard-working side that fights for the shirt, then turn their nose up at this appointment.

Firstly, thanks to everyone saying hello, or, "good to see you back" or the like. Good to "be back".

When things go to shit with Everton, there's a steady stream of, "We're shit. We suck. We're crap. Etc." I just wears on you. That constant stream of negativity when in reality we're 6 points off 13th. Yes, it HAS been unacceptable, sub par garbage. But the spleen-venting on TW sometimes just makes me swerve for a bit. I read, I choose not to post, it's just not worth it amidst all the poo-slinging posts.

That brings me to Frank Lampard. He's gone. It's easy to rip him one. But I prefer a different way to remember Frank.

Under Lampard I witnessed my single favorite moment as a Blue since 2007 when I was born, not manufactured.

The Palace game.

Down 0-2 after the first half. Somehow, some way, Frank motivated those boys to play their hearts out and ensure our Premier League survival. And what happened afterwards I'll never forget, ever. I don't cry for sports - there's WAY more important things in life. But that day I came damn, damn close.

The fans rushed the pitch, American college football style, and what I saw I've never, ever seen in all of sport.

It was a pitch invasion, but it was more than that. Now this may sound poetic as fuck, but for me it's accurate.

I saw an explosion of the human spirit. An unbridled joy that surely isn't superficial, but comes from the soul. Fans - ordinary men and women who see Everton as part of their identity and sewed into the fabric of their very being, celebrating an accomplishment. The expression of the human soul of happiness, it came from deep within, genuine beyond comprehension, and so palpable your could feel it emanating from anywhere in the world you viewed this bliss.

It was simply beautiful. I have no other word to describe it. And it was, and probably will always be, my favorite Everton moment.

I said to my wife, "THAT is what it means to be Blue. THAT is Everton. Anyone watching this knows this Club is brilliant."

Frank Lampard gave me that. He surely had help - Keane, Richie, Dom - but he was overseeing the squad. He gave me that ultimately.

So for me, he'll never receive a bad word.

That moment was absolutely priceless. And if Frank was overseeing that effort and subsequent celebration, then I'll remember that, and him fondly. I wish him luck moving forward, and thank him for always giving 100%, always speaking plainly and in a manner befitting Everton, and for that ridiculously special moment that exemplified the pinnacle of the human spirit through sport.

There you have it.

Hopefully Sean can give us another one like that very, very, soon.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/people/simply-the-best-your-photos-with-sacked-clarets-boss-sean-dyche-that-say-thanks-for-the-memories-3658139

Does it say something that the two dumb Yanks are the two happiest with this hiring?

So Sean Dyche it is. I am an Evertonian so I will support him because sooner or later we have to stick with a manager. I hope he leads us out for the first game at Bramley Moore.

Shin pads eh Tony - not rolled up Echos? 😉

Despite the derision by some on this thread about Dyche being an Ale House football manager he managed to get a Burnley squad to punch well above their weight for a good number of seasons in the PL.

For those that still think Dyche is beneath being warranted to be an Everton manager please watch the Coaches Voice links from Gary Russell earlier in the thread, Dyche comes across as someone who knows his shit and cuts his cloth accordingly.

Come on Sean get this rabble playing with some effort, intensity, togetherness and we may just see an escape from the current shit state we find ourselves.

COYB!

After looking at Sean Dyche's background, I feel that he is the more credible appointment for the clubs current situation.

We need to give him time and a chance, I have more faith in Sean Dyche in helping us out, good luck Sean, you have my backing.

I think Dyche is going to surprise us over time. Tell you someone else who's going to be significant for us : James Garner. Currently a bit forgotten but he has the hallmark.

But now, it is a crisis time until Or if we get out of the trap of relegation. Yes, ordinarily we would be looking for the best managers when Sir John was in charge and we'd look forward towatching the best players come the best players.
First of all, hope springs eternal, even if it doesn't bounce very high at the minute. I read a thread about Moshiri looking for investment. Well, that give me the first glimmer of light and a hope it means the beginning of the end for Kenwright, and the sooner the better.

I got all those cuts of film of Derek and, some of them were ??? but some were really funny and lightened gloom a bit.

But first of all, the target is to win matches, or if not win, then draw and get away from the relegation zone. I think Sean Dyche can lead our players, especially if we get two or three good ones, away from the drop. If we do that, then we fight to get as high up the league as we can again. Stating the obvious but we are in a battle and that's it. I think this manager is a good choice for this battle. I've read how Tony A rates ahim and that gives me hope.

I feel sorry for Frank, I think he really wanted to do well for us, the supporters. Now, we look forward. I don't know if we'll get any points out of the first two matches. As long as those two teams know they've been in a hard game, that will be a start, if we get a point of either then that'll be a good result. Let's just see how we go in the next 4 months.

As my "mate", Steve Ashcroft, Everton Academy graduate and friend used to say about his bald dome:

"Mate! Not bald! It's a push button for sex!"

Obviously, I'm not expecting pretty football just yet, and Christ alone knows whether he can keep us up, but I am expecting a fight, and the return of some pride. In my view, this is a very sensible appointment.

Dyche is the best man for the job if the job is remaining in the Premier League, but he should take some of what Bielsa had planned into account himself and follow a bit of his ideas.

Mainly because staying in the Premier League has basically been my main priority but, if Dyche buys players like Ryan Fraiser (who has been touted), then we only have more of the same to come for the next 4 or 5 years, the exact same as what we've endured for the previous 4 or 5 years.

Eventually, we have to make a big change right through the club, literally from top to bottom. Start by buying youngsters, hungry lads who want to make a career, want to make their mark in football, and putting a lot of faith in the U18s and U21s etc.

I know we have Kevin Thelwell but, if Bielsa ever considered an upstairs style role, I'd have him under serious consideration.

Every single one of us, and all the personnel at Everton, have been drawn inexorably closer for decades to the vortex of relegation in the maelstrom mania that's infested our club as owner and manager for all of this century, and more.

How many years more – and now it will definitely be years more given the gross ineptitude of Moshiri already – do we have to endure the eternal dross we've frankly chosen to endure for decades?

There's two sides to this. Our side and his. The Premier League is ruthless. People like Curbishley punch above their weight for years, have one bad experience, and their career is over. George Graham, unpopular at Spurs, fired; career over.

Realistically, Frank Lampard is finished as a Premier League manager unless he can find a lower league team and get promoted back there.

So Sean Dyche, who has a remarkably similar record to Eddie Howe, is taking a huge risk taking on the 19th-placed, impoverished team that fire managers every 12 months. If he fails, he won't get another Premier League job.

He could have easily sat on his hands and waited on an easier opportunity to come along. No job is tougher than Everton. It's ruined lots of good managers. But he's taken a chance on us.

I don't want to hear “it's about money” as he's no pauper and could have found a comfortable wage in the Championship or elsewhere if money was tight. But instead, he obviously feels strongly that he can make a success of this. So I think we should give the guy a chance.

To become even midtable, Everton need a complete overall of the management of the club, which would mean the removal of underperforming management and the installation of accountability at all levels and winning objectives.

The Dyche appointment suits the current management. In the short-term, Dyche could preserve Premier League status, but that will be the height of the club's achievement. Since the present club management are purveyors of football mediocrity and are the main threat to the club's financial existence.

The present Everton situation and how it came about is an absolute disgrace.

I hope this does put off the over overriding need to completely overhaul the upper echelon. I genuinely hope/think the Board can not show their faces at Goodison again (or miraculously emerge at Bramley-Moore Dock for the opening of teh new Everton Stadium! 😡)

Two outstanding posts on here;

Jamie (249), beautifully written and captured. I was watching here in South Africa (first game 1965) and looking back objectively I doubt if any game has impacted me the same, apart from maybe the Inchy semi-final winner in ‘84. Live vs TV will always influence but….

Steve (109). An evocative and thought-provoking piece. I would emphasise I am comfortable with Dyche but everything I have read indicates Bielsa could have been the rocket the club needed. Guess we will now never know.

Critically I have read that Bielsa came with a positive mindset, went well with Moshiri on first interview, but all seemed to turn when he met Kenwright. (Back to many previous points, what right or credentials has he got to be involved in such a key decision?)

Could that be that he could see his trainset disappearing, or Bielsa immediately sussed out he wouldn't get the control he wanted - plus interference from inherently incompetent senior management? Again, we will never know.

So, after the utter shambles of the last 6 weeks (I loved Frank but either of these two could have been appointed 8 weeks ago – even 1 week ago) and with the possibility of no additions, let's recreate the siege mentality of last season and give Sean full support.

He is ideal for a 4-month scrap and, as has been indicated, his Burnley team at times played some very nice football.

I pray he can bring in some long-term structure that allows a positive start in the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. Plus, at a wider level, solid investment and a thorough overhaul at the top, bringing in proper football and commercial savvy management. Know all that will need patience.

My hope (only) of the last 6 weeks has finally had some expectation added in. Let's hope Arsenal's new-found losing streak continues next week… (Joe Royle's first home game as manager, anyone!!)

If nothing else, I think the atmosphere will be fantastic and hope the Board help by staying away again!

COYB

Come to think of it, about the same as our last 7 managers! 😂

I, like many have watched Everton win league titles, FA Cups and a European trophy. I've followed and continuously follow them endlessly.

I've experienced great times watching us win trophies. The journey back from Norwich in 1987 will never leave me even though I recall very little of the match itself.

Kings of Europe in waiting.

But that night last season was special. An outpouring of emotion by supporters who this club mean everything to and always will.

The new manager will get everyone's support. Because we support Everton.

There are only two I can think of that didn't. But even then, we were still behind the team.

Managers come and go. We are always here, always have been and always will be.

I know where I want real change and it won't come through continuously changing the manager.

But let's get them over the line again.

If we do go down then I think he is the most likely manager to get us straight back up because if we don’t we’ll be down there a while

The only way we have a chance is if “everyone” sticks together over the next 4 months! What good is the board staying away going to do the team, new manager and players? We need to get behind the team and leave all this nonsense aside for another day!

The behavior of some fans at recent home games has been disgraceful. Although I am happy that Gordon has gone and it's a good deal for us, it saddens me that he probably made his mind up about leaving the day the fans faced him up and abused him in his car.

It should never come to this!

Support the whole club and see where it takes us, Good luck Sean.

Obviously our DoF, whoever it is, hasn't had any input at all. Dyche will recruit his type of player and it all just continues. What a mess!

If the latest managerial does turn out to be Sean Dyche, it's a totally underwhelming choice.

And how many players do Everton need to sell before they can enter the transfer market? Make no mistake, without quality additions, at least 3 or 4 players, the club look likely to be relegated.

What decent player would come to the club in its present state anyway? The Kevin Thelwell signings in the last transfer window have been mediocre. I assume that they were his and Lampard's signings – but who knows?

What a terrible state Everton Football Club are in!

Gordon decided to leave when Chelsea came calling in the Summer; from then on, he has had in his head an exaggerated sense of his own ability. Unfortunately that has not manifested itself on the pitch this season.

I also suspect his inflated opinion stretches to hairstyling as there can be no other excuse for the pompadour he is sporting. Unless, Bob, he has taken a couple of those tablets you were once famous for – they would have the same effect.

"A STATE OF MIND
If you think you're beaten, you are;
If you think you dare not, you don't;
If you like to win, but think you can't...
...It's almost certain you won't;
If you think you will lose, you will have lost;
For throughout the world you will find
success begins in a player's mind.
IT'S ALL IN THE STATE OF MIND"

One could argue the merits of it, but certainly a few of our players should heed this mantra.

I'm not the most excited I've ever been with an appointment, but it looks like he is one of us now. I will be behind him however, and look forward to his full baptism as an Evertonian when we beat Arsenal.

After this, it depends where we finish. If we avoid the drop, a fresh season will likely see the aim of consolidation. Something to build on. After that, style will be expected.

If we drop, a complete rebuild will be needed, whilst having the fan and financial pressure of needing immediate promotion.

Tough job here. Especially when you factor in who the bosses are!

Last three seasons Premier League form: 53 games 2 goals 5 assists

Salary reported to be £63,000 pw.

We need two players who can bring goals to this team, we cannot score. We need to do much better than this on the goals front to give us the best chance.

Tony E, I read that too, we were offered Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth when he had a dispute either with the club or Eddie Howe; ironically we will now probably be paying for him, should it materialise. You couldn't make this shit up, could you?

The sooner we are rid of this Board, the better, but keep the powder dry for now, let's concentrate on backing the new manager; Premier League survival is key to our future.

Also read that he has asked for 3 to 4 new signings with the Gordon money – hope so, and that they are the right signings too, but won't hold my breath.

Kenwright is the cancer and Moshiri is the virus. Together they are the perfect malady which has almost killed the patient. Dark days ahead indeed.

Came from the RS and in his 10 year Everton career managed to score more than 5 league goals a season - with more games to play, in half of them.

Wise words Lee 👍

Couldn't agree more. Some of our fans are the only reason Id ever consider stopping supporting the team. Never bloody happy with anything. If we'd landed Simone as manager they'd be crying 'ffs no. He has no premier league experience, we're down'. News flash, it's 2023, not the 1980s, we're not the dominant force in domestic football. Some people on here have a dellude sense of entitlement, that we have the pull to attract the best managers and players the world has to offer. Simple fact is, we don't. The past is gone, we are where we are and we need to pull together and support the next manager, regardless if we go down or not we need stability.

I for one am happy if it's Dyche. He worked wonders at Burnley, they were a nightmare to play against for so many teams and they played with fight, grit and spirit, something we haven't done consistently in years.

He's alot more tactically astute than I think a lot of people give him credit for. He takes no shit and can see him being a strong character that can galvanise the team and put a boot up the holes of anyone not pulling their weight. Read or listen to a lot of his interviews, the man has a damn good footballing brain and seems like a natural leader and influencer.

I can see this being dogs of war part 2 and I'd rather grind out 1-0 or 2-1 wins than play attractive, fluid football (we don't have a squad capable of that anyway) and get battered 5-2. Let's get organised, battle hardened and get some fight and pride back first. I think Dyche is the perfect man to instill some of the qualities and commitment a lot of our players have sorely lacked for far too long.

The reason Dyche is getting so much stick are the same reasons Howe did.

I think he's probably the perfect manager for us at the moment. Despite their form we do have some really good players, a lot better than those he worked with at Burnley. The right manager will get a tune out of these. Maybe DCL told to stay in the box like Carlo told him, maybe McNeil played the way he should be delivered crosses to DCL. Back to basics a reset.

My only concern is we may run out of time and games as this won't be an instant fix.

Longer term I could see us evolving with him. He's not the tactical dinosaur he's made out.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing where this goes. He's a far better appointment than Bielsa or Allardyce

Lets get behind Dyche he's no mug and could be a great manager for us.

If Dyche signs that poisoned dwarf, Ryan Fraser, that’s it for me. He couldn’t get a game at Bournemouth, can’t get a game at Newcastle, has a reputation as a changing room arsehole. He’s shite. I’m done.

Dyche out!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx1Tp5MLRr4&ab_channel=StevenMichaelBogarat

couldn't agree more. But it's not just Bill that lives in the past, you are correct.

Everton are not a force or pull, and haven't been for decades. If Kings Dock had been our stadium for over 10 years things may be a bit different in 2023, but we will never know.

From the first game of pre-season, he was stinking the place out, then home loss to Tuchel, away loss to Gerrard, both of whom were sacked a couple of weeks later cos they were getting whacked by everyone else.

Seven goals conceded to bottom club Bournemouth, the losses at home to all our relegation rivals. If the change had been made after Bournemouth, as it should, we'd be comfortably mid-table now.

If we do go down, this relegation is 100% the fault of the people who run the football club.

So you’d have sacked him after the first pre-season game would you?

I detest the Everton hierarchy but they have tried sacking underperforming managers and it hasn’t exactly worked out great.

I probably would have pulled the trigger on Frank earlier but surely you can understand why they would want to at least try show faith in a bloke in the hope he can turn it around.

I don’t really see Lampard’s hiring and firing as a dramatic failing by the board. For me the real damage was done well before the threat of relegation. The hiring of managers with a completely different philosophy to the last. The two Chairman, a DOF and a manager somehow conspiring to sign three number 10s in one transfer window. The selling of top players and replacing them with overpriced shite.

The list really does go on. But this particular decision seems pretty ok to me. They tried to back him until they couldn’t. Fair do’s.

The article missed the point, as with similar ones in other media outlets, that Kenwright has been the root cause of our decline for over a generation; they only look at the Moshiri era. Nearly all of today’s football correspondents simply don’t remember that we were - and still should be - an elite club.

In his column today, Graeme Souness, of all people, calls it a calamity that a club of our heritage is in such a precarious position thanks to the incompetence of the board, but of course he does remember when we were winning trophies.

yes, when we got whacked by Adrian Heath's Allstars four nil I did sit up. I wouldn't have wanted him sacked at that point, but it rang an alarm bell. I am surprised you think we were right to hold onto him for as long as we did. Look at our rivals, Gerrard was doing better than Lampard when he got the bullet months before Frank. Same with the soton manager. And as well as the results, Lampard has been making it clear in his interviews for weeks that it was all over. 'I'll never stop trying, I'll keep going whatever', just code for 'I aint resigning, so get your cheque book out Farhad'. And yes, this 2-3 month delay has really cost us. It wasn't a reasonable position to find yourself in, you could see this trouble coming from a mile off.

I’ve used that in life, on TW and Blue Kipper for donkeys years, and fits the Dyche mindset.

Let’s hope this announcement when done, can start this season, at just past the half way point.

UTFTs!

Fraser, done OK for a time at Bournemouth, and I recall he then had contract issues and refused to play.

Based on the wingers already in the squad, I don't see Fraser, making Everton any better.

But Dyche has his ways, and Everton and Dyche, to win the second half of this season.

UTFTs!

Goals win games and it's hard to see any in the next two games at least against Arsenal and RS.

Unless the money for Gordon can be used expeditiously then the struggle will continue.

We all know when your down everything seems to go against you but with 18 games left it's not hopeless just yet.

If a better understanding can be achieved when they are not in possession then they may be able to pick up some points against strong sides like they did against Man.City.

Up to now they have been very untidy when defending and it has made other mediocre teams look good.

C.O.Y.B.

Ian 332, he still laid bare kenshite for what he is, a fraud!! Also his refusal to sell until he found a mug who would let him stay.

These two are a match made in Hell.

Is Thelwell on top of our transfer business, poised to pull rabbits from a hat, or is he hacked off he seemed to have had no say in the new manager?

The best business always tends to be done early in the window, not at the end when others can smell your desperation

He (HK) didn't have it all a bowl of cherries early doors, but that win at Oxford United kicked the whole thing off, which is why, different era I know, Dyche has to be given a decent run to show his worth. After all said and done it isn't his fault he has inherited a basket case in the asylum, run by the lunatics.

One Flew Over The Bramley Moore Dock !

Fake news? Until the OS has him pictured with a scarf, I won't believe it.

Seriously, I don't understand why everybody is so concerned that he hasn't yet been presented publicly, so long as he's signed the contract and he's busy trying to bring in new players, that's alright for me… not bloody Ryan Fraser though!

Hopefully Everton can stick together and move up the League. Dyche will be up for this battle but he needs support from Thelwall, as there's a couple of days left in this window

There's hope now, and hopefully some new players in soon.

It took me a second lmao

Even though he's had a year out of the game, Dyche will be well acquainted with our squad, and has worked with McNeil, Tarkowski and Keane before. It is Keane that I am most interested in. Lampard steadfastly overlooked Keane this season, but for me Michael Keane is our only central defender who is able to make the long diagonal pass - and off both feet. He can make mistakes, we all know that, but watching Conor Coady in the last few games has been painful; slow, afraid to make a challenge, relying on trying to block shots rather than mark or get tight to opponents - which is the sort of timid defending that can spread like wildfire through a team. I like Tarkowski but I think he either needs someone quick and decisive to play with him, or someone who mirrors his own style. I suspect that Tarkowski and Keane could work, especially if we look to defend a bit deeper and use Michael Keane to pass long out of defence. Ben Godfrey is our only central defender with real pace, but he is as likely to be reckless as he is decisive, and sadly his range of passing is as basic as it gets.

As for Dyche, his last few seasons at Burnley often saw sequences of a sustained run of defeats being followed by a decent unbeaten run that eventually tailed off and was replaced by a string of defeats. If he can get that new manager bounce and find the unbeaten run quickly then we'll just have to hope that it's a sustained one and the string of defeats don't take hold too soon.

Rather have Aaron Lennon for free

What he forgets is we’re taking on another club’s deadwood, a la Dele Alli, El Ghazi, etc

I see the similarities with Dyche, not my choice, once bitten and all that, but could he create something impressive?

Moyse’s football was so formulaic - but I’d take that for the next three years. A consistent formation, with clear roles, and patterns of play - I just hope those patterns are more than just ‘get it in the box’

Good luck Sean. UTFT

PS - great to see Steve Fearns back, I suspect still smarting over our lack of a proper CDM

Just make the decision and stop the dithering that has plagued this club for decades.

We need to get the players ready to face Arsenal.

Just do it and stop the uncertainty.

If we sign Fraser he will immediately be piled on top of the ever lasting dead wood pile. It’s like the magic porridge pot no matters how much dead wood we clear the pile keeps growing

Just when I was thinking things would be improving...

We shall see what happens! It's vital we get two decent players.

What do you think about getting Dele Alli back, a good idea or not.

Then get points on the board so my family can stop listening to me and my poor boy dog can enjoy his walks again.

Make a decision and go with it.

Yes, the manager sets us up on the pitch but it is clear the playing staff was beyond his remit.

Bielsa proposed taking it back to basics and removing that element of control from the incompetent board and Kenwright panicked at the thought of losing that control and went for Dyche.

You can see the mismatch of styles and players we have had. You didn't need to be a FIFA delegate to know signing Bolasie for £28M, Tosun for £24M and Walcott for £20M to name three was ridiculous. I remember Arsenal fans delirious that they were selling Iwobi and would have given him away and still can't believe we paid £35M for him!

I've read somewhere Biesla's proposal to manage the U21s until the end of the season was a smokescreen circulated by the club and it was the proposal to manage all football-related matters which terrified them.

Imagine Biesla rocking up and being interviewed by Gordon Clegg and someone whose background was in charities.

Separately, our woes don't end there as we have just been debated in parliament as they are now onto the fact Moshiri is Usmanov's launderette!

I desperately want Dyche to work out but given the (not so fabulous) four are not for moving I can't see anything changing quickly

Right, off to buy a lotto ticket as I'm feeling lucky!

Or, should I say, in a scenario where there are no good endings, this will be the worst.

No announcement now till tomorrow, 'allegedly'.

Once these two are tied up, EFC gets Dyche's signature.

Eminently sensible really, but 48 hours too late for me.

Just like with Lampard, should have been sacked straight after West Ham, bled on til Monday. Two days lost. and now another two days, pissing around with Ian Woan.

And two days left of the fucking window and no bugger signed.
No way this board survives past the summer.

You are surely not suggesting that our esteemed board are anything less than scrupulously honest in all their dealings with fans and press?

Everton have got a lot of good players who have regressed because of the constant upheaval at a very divided club.

Footballers are like little kids and need to be told what to do, and because Dyche is such a good man-manager, he's certain he can unite our football club.

Footballers like things to be kept simple, and a lot of them are definitely like little kids, especially when things are going wrong. But if you can cut through the bullshit, treat them like adults, and give them responsibility, because they know you believe in them, and most players instantly change.

It's crazy, but loads of players don't even realize they are letting themselves down, when they are letting down a manager, they don't really like or think is good enough, but this changes automatically once you have their total respect, imo. I hope Troy Deeney is right about Dyche.

Kenwright and the Professor will be hoping that the "Everton plod" sees them right, and that all the recent unpleasantness can be bored to death.

It's the tactic of politicians down the years: when you're in trouble, drag it out; then drag it out some more.

Everton have become a stepping-stone-on-the-way-down club – Jonathan Wilson in The Guardian

I understand what Jonathan Wilson is articulating, but during the tenure of Moshiri, we have gone from hoping for regular European football, to hoping that we stay in the division, even if it's in 17th place. Everton the club, and I include the supporters in that, isn't responsible for the failures – it is the owner and the boardroom where the fault lies.

The day we rid ourselves of these leeches and morons can't come soon enough, although it'll take years to get to some level of normality.

Dyche confirmation tomorrow!

3 signings by Tuesday!

Working day and night getting things done!

Relax!! Everton know how to get things done!!

Sadly, that is a description of Sunderland, not Everton, in the I newspaper today.

It's taken Sunderland long enough. How long for Everton?
The battle to get rid of the 'Cult of Bill' has to go on.

but you have to allow for the fact that record has been achieved while fighting with a poor team near the foot of the table... Oh...

That has to be a spelling error on the first word, surely.

Whoever it is will DEMAND a lucrative lengthy personal contract and why not?

I hope he makes contract-based demands for player signing funds too, ensuring he can publicly cite our owner/board's failure to keep their side of the contract when he's sacked in a little while.

Our owner/board are fucking useless - period. They've already fucked the club and the fans for seasons to come regardless of whoever they appoint manager.

Apart from your pre judicial opinions about him and DF, what do you think about what he actually said regarding current players and social media?

I really do get it, however, If I was a supporter of one of the relegation rivals and happened upon ToffeeWeb or any other Everton fansite, I would go away feeling that however my club was performing, I would be more optimistic about its chances compared to Everton, given the amount of negative vibes that I'd read on those Everton sites.

It started many moons ago, when most of the angst and worry amongst many Evertonians was overly concerned about how we would fare in comparison to the neighbours, no matter where we were in the league, regardless of the abilities of each side at a particular moment in time, we would lose, or end up behind them, and it was always Everton's fault, the fact was on most occasions many of the clubs in the division would suffer the same fate, Everton weren't unique in their combats with the other side.

Now it seems that every club at most levels are better at this footy lark than the team we support. The lower the club falls, the less inclined, it would seem, that some supporters feel the need to rally around it, to such a point that for some, relegation would come as some kind of welcome relief. It wouldn't end the doom laden posts, in fact, it would probably begin a whole new cycle of "We'll never get back!", "We might drop down another division" etc etc.

How many times do we have to read about how rubbish we are? anybody, who has a passing interest in the club knows about the issues, and how long it has been since we won a match, since we scored more than a single goal, since we kept a clean sheet etc etc. It's akin to waterboarding for football supporters, for every hopeful or foolishly optimistic post, there are a dozen to tell us how it will all end in tears and we'd all better get used to the fact.

However, until it does become a fact, it's nothing more than fear laden pessimism. I totally understand that in the immediate post match, following a bad result, that we all post our frustrations on everything connected to the club. What I don't understand, is when we haven't played a match, that frustration continues unabated, with post after post, filled with dislike and distaste for the club and its players so much so that it begins to look like a full time hobby, rather than a critique of the current state of play.

Fortunately, last season, the fans at Goodison did rally, because not to have done, would have been akin to abandoning our club in its hour of need, despite its imperfections we did manage to get the team over the line, we'll need the same again this season, perhaps, even more so. I'm hoping we get to the new stadium, with our continuous run in the top division intact. It can be done, whether it will be, is for the players and staff to prove, but we can all help by toning down the sense of doom and gloom, and if we must post negative stuff, it might be advisable to do it with far less frequency.

COYB

Just like CDs used to be, social media is here to stay - until something more accessible/controllable/lucrative takes over.

And Barry, fine sentiments indeed (genuinely), however our hierarchy has enjoyed for decades such fan indulgence but only rewarded them with decline and non-accountability.

Many of us want change at the top. Continuing with our Moshiri/boardroom spells doom, soon.

"Souness as well, and Ray Clemence who I've met many times, what a fantastic player, no airs and graces.

"I was a 70's child so everyone was a Liverpool fan but I lived in Kettering so I couldn't get up there all the time, I was a distant Liverpool fan."

Dyche's boyhood hero was Kenny Dalglish and he has since had the chance to meet the Reds great in person.

"I did meet the now Sir Kenny a couple of seasons ago and that was a big moment for me because as a child he was my favourite.

"You don't forget these people just because you work in the same profession, I was so pleased to meet him."

You couldn't make this shit up could you? He'll probably go and wave to the kop after we get hammered and say how privileged he feels managing a team that's just got slaughtered by Klopp's shits. This is Everton.

Well said.

I have backed every manager since Cliff Britton, and I have done so because I believe that's what 'supporters' do.

I envy those who can see into the future, they already know that Everton will be relegated, while I have to wait until points fall short of the required number, for example, 4 points with one game to play.

God bless you all for your support.

Because the club is sick and starting to disintegrate. It has been going this way for the best part of 10 years. Whatever happened last season, you can't get your way out of such a sickness through merely hope. There has to be change. The definition of madness is repeating that which leads to you failing.

We rinse. We repeat. Until that changes and the personnel doing this are changed, we fail.

I don't know you nor know what has precipitated your 'sad time', but I also wish you well, I've had plenty of my own these past 5 years and it makes football seem a little less important than usual when it happens.

Good luck in dealing with whatever you are having to deal with.

Everton's problems go back way more than 10 years in my opinion. More like 30 years.

One said the first thing he does with players he doesn't know, is to give them a blank sheet of paper and asks them to put their thoughts down (should, could be interesting) and a psychological approach to assessing them.

He should have done the same with those who interviewed him! These players went on to say that he made it crystal clear what each's role was, and they were told to stick to it.

March 1971 to be exact when we got biffed out of 2 cups... though a good case can be made for not paying the rent increase in 1892!

It's because we support Everton. I ranted about Allardyce and was disappointed with the Benitez appointment. But come Saturday I was supporting the team and willing them to win. And by default the manager.

We will be doing it with Dyche.

I don't have issue with admiring Daglish. I still rate him as the second best British player I've seen. Paul Scholes the best English one, even though his ability to tackle was a bit dodgy. But he could play.

Brian, I hope all is well. If you need any help or support, please get in touch. Derek and others have my contact details. Stay strong.

This type of appointment is is exactly what we don't need. Why are the words 'safe and what we need now' always associated with us? This is the reason we will never win anything again.

Bielsa is who we need to take the club forward. I will not be watching this anti-football, because I think football is entertainment at least Bielsa would get me excited about watching football again.

Good luck at Everton, this is going to be a slow and painful death.

We will eventually get rid of the shackles at some point and we will win again once we remove the people who have imposed this defeatist and acceptance of mediocracy mentality on our club.

Fortunately, there are still enough of us around who won't accept it.

Silly me, the first player, his teammates ran to at the end of the game, was the kid who had me scratching my head. I shook his hand, and said lad, I could understand you following me if you was actually getting paid to play, (looking back now, who the fuck did I think I was!)and he just nodded his head, smiled at me and carried on getting back-slapped, off everyone.

Everton are in absolute shit-street, the club is at its lowest ever point in my lifetime, so if Dyche, can get enough pragmatism into this sad and sorry bunch, and get us fighting for every ball, then suddenly the mood will change, the crowd will become engaged and everyone will be pulling in the same direction.

Unite for 90 minutes (it’s 100 now!) and realize it’s one of the most important attributes we can have, especially at Goodison Pk. Look at Newcastle, this time last season, playing god awful football, but suddenly fighting for every single ball. Then look at them now?

The concerns about the more simple , direct football are understandable. It could be interpreted in a different way as being the absolutely necessary first step for the club to build from. Once the solidity I secured then any top class creative talent introduced will add to it. Such a player will not be 90% concerned with defensive firefighting and be much more free to create.

The initial phase doesn’t have to be all mean, frugal football anyway. Often in games there are one or two moments of brilliance interspersed with the battling play.

Enjoying a new found cohesion and strength in the team, coupled with these moments of inspiration will do for me right now. Battling, hard fought wins that Dyche will hopefully bring, are underrated, but should be the staple of our club.

We took our shot, just like Leeds did all those years ago. And it's backfired.

Let's hope Dyche has the same affect. I do actually think it's the right appointment and will get this squad of players sorted. Frank was to nice, I don't think our players will get away with the performances we have had under Dyche. When Burnley were playing nice footy he managed to get results at Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, something our past managers haven't succeeded.

Danny (435) (436) You've both very accurately pointed out what an advantage we can provide. Hopefully, we will provide it. We did last season so we can do it again. As for predicting what what style of football awaits us, I think he plays very practical football and suits the tactics to the situation. I think poor old Frank was left to stew a bit too long, when it was clear he was finding the job too hard.

One thing I feel fairly certain of, and that's the team that comes out to represent us, will put their tripes out. Hope I'm wrong but Gueye looks yards slower than when he left us, as does DCL. but we will soon have Townsend back and he was one of our better players before he got injured. I don't think we will be carrying any passengers, and I don't think we will be fannying around with the ball at the back either.

PS Pete, Great idea, I'll contribute!

I had high hopes at the start of the season when we bought some solid players, but Frank couldn't organise them, and we were wide open all over the pitch.

I'm hoping Dyche will make more use of these buys, organising and drilling them.

Start simple and solid, then build from there. We've been doing it in the wrong order for too long.

Had our owner installed appropriate, competent and accountable people to own his cheque book and run the club properly, it might have worked out different. Nothing is a given, however:

Instead, he was conned into believing the existing establishment in place "got Everton" and that would work, so he could go back to Monaco thinking everything would be okay.

I get Everton, I breathe them and wake up every morning thinking about them. One of my favourite rituals is my trip to the Goodison Supper Bar for Chips Peas and Onion Gravy. So you could have put me in charge if that was the criteria. I wouldn't have recommended it though.

Credit where due; Bramley Moore will be a fine legacy. But we've wasted a huge and very expensive missed opportunity on the pitch these past several years.

There are some very good articles in the media right now pointing the finger at Everton's leadership (or lack of). Finally the nationals are onto them and they can't hide for much longer from the root cause rather than hanging people out to dry. They talk a lot about what many have been saying for years. Dysfunctional approach to transfers, interference from owner and board members rather than letting DoF and managers get on with football matters. They've been playing fantasy football when they don't understand football.

We simply can't keep blaming manager after manager. Especially when we have had so many and they are all diverse and different types. That is not the problem or the solution whoever the next poor soul into the chamber with a noose around his neck is.

Tony, you know me and I too am a football purist. Come Saturday, we get behind the team and for those 90 / 100 minutes, I don't care about who is in the dugout! We follow and support Everton without question and unconditionally.

It's Sunday and I'm ranting. I need to go and say a few Hail Marys and pray for Everton.

The club agreed in the summer of 2021 that Richarlison could go at the end of that season.

Four transfer windows later and we have signed. Maupay.

What a shambles of a club this is.

Sorry that is not football related

And the Cook Straights was an emotional experience!!

Probably tame compared to the one we're in now.

On the Elton John theme, I guess that's why they call us the Blues.

I simply you more than life itself.

Cradle to grave.

Sounds like a harrowing experience you went through, glad you got home in one piece. Your Mazda sounds like the James Bond Moonraker model!.

I often wonder, is it just us, Everton, who procrastinate, take forever – use whatever words you will – to get deals, managers over the line?

Most of us don't pay attention to other clubs but it does feel like most of them get their business done and dusted a lot more quickly than EFC. Once there's some legs in a deal being mooted, I can't remember when we last had any outgoings or incomings without protracted negotiations, silence, and basically no idea if or when a deal might be completed.

The latest being our supposedly new manager. Silence once again. Maybe I am wearing my royal blue tinted glasses…

What forwards? We don't have any worthy of the name...!

Lets do Arsenal and cheer is all up.

Sunday. 2.50pm. Still no announcement. Un-believable.

Romae non per diem.

Maybe they can't find a biro in Goodison Park?

I predict the welcome video will be Sean opening one with his bare hands, drinking it in one, then throwing it at an unidentified player.

Tony(#436); That bloke who marked you out of the 2nd game, did you not think to go and stand on the penalty spot in their box just to see what he did? Like sweepers, get your centre forward to mark him and see what he does.

Seriously when I hear people talk about anti-football, I think of Everton, getting a point at Anfield under Allardyce.

Then I think about Martinez and Silva, both being wide open at the same ground, making c**ts out of us, and then I think that professional football is a results business, especially when you’re in a position like Everton, are in right now.

Some people are looking past this, and that is fair enough, but I just hope we can cross that bridge when we come to it because it’s all about trying to get Everton safe now

Jeez they're at it again. Dirty shower of shite.

Kenwright’s Everton

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-728959651/bill-kenwright-agm-jan-2021

🤣🤣🤣

They play the game the way I wish we did but can only dream of.

They sell better players but keep playing the same way.

Oh and they have got the loveable Reds bent over a table every time they play them.

Jim!

Jeez, Jim, that'll cost a fortune going down there every other week ! Midweek games too, give yer head a wobble !

Mark @490: I didn't know that. Was wondering what was going on. Hope you're right & the time is being used wisely.

I've started doing an Elvis as well (that's three of us with Suspicious Minds).

Maybe Dyche made the retention of Gordon a condition of joining?

The answer is you can't.

They are the girl you marry and stay with for life.

I wish I could hate them sometimes, but I can't. I just live in the hope we can make each other happy most of the time despite inevitable fallouts and arguments.

But you never stop loving them.

I cannot imagine life without EFC the greatest club in the world even when we are shiter than shite!

Rob - was it the same source that was confirming Dyche as manager?

Apologies lads. I'm getting excited about transfer day.

Meanwhile Kenwright is still trying to open the front door to let Dyche in whilst telling him all about the good times Everton have had.

Can’t wait to see how we reinvest this 40mil. I expect a deadline day consisting of “Everton have submitted a late loan bid to sign (insert uninspiring name here).”

I am hoping that it is because we are going to announce an incoming transfer at the same time. Deluded that I am of course.

Hopefully Dyche gives us some method, because it’s been absent for years, and maybe I might even get back on the road again with my youngest son, but he actually prefers going to watch his brother playing now, so I’ve even started missing some games at Goodison, because of this.

I’m curious to see who Dyche brings in with him, because my old mate Steve Stone, got promoted from the under 23 team, into a first team coach, during Dyche’s last season at Burnley, and because the season never went well, I’m hoping it’s not because Stoney, was a jinx.

He might be an old mate, but I’ve had enough of the jinxes we have had at Everton, down the years, so hopefully Stoney, ends up doing Paul Tait’s job, and starts bringing through a few of the younger players instead!

Surely, Woan and Stone have sorted their contracts by now?

Dyche was interviewed Thurs, at Goodison/FF Friday and at FF y'day and today..? So, why no official announcement?

I mean Gordon officially signed as a Toon yesterday, but no 'official' announcement till today on our OS!?

"There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip!"

The longer this drags on, the more the grease on the trapdoor hinges...

That’s why it’s hilarious when you get the occasional poster saying, ‘that’s me, I’m done, I’m finished with them, bye everyone “.

We all know that a day or two will pass and they’ll be right back to where they left off.

Where is Dyche.

https://youtu.be/wR4pxU3g-RI

Ignore the above.

When I first moved to London there was an advertising poster on London Transport with a picture of Henry VIII and a speech bubble with him saying:

"Return to Tower Hill please"

Underneath a graffiti artist had scrawled:

"And a single for the wife."

Off the theme, but I used to walk to work across a park in Leeds to the town centre every morning. Painted on the footpath was ‘‘ Jesus Loves Me ‘‘ ….then a few steps later …”But He Fucking Hates You “.

Always set me up for the day.

If you have a row with a putative manager about transfer targets before you hire him, you don't get landed with any payment in lieu of notice.

I can hear a fiddle somewhere, and the stench of smoke...

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-728959651/bill-kenwright-agm-jan-2021

It's more believable than Thelwell being on leave to take the missus to Llandudno for the weekend.

To be honest, I still maintain that a new manager is only a small part of what we need. It's the transfers that will make the difference. I actually don't question the players' effort; I massively question their quality.

And at present we're weaker than when the window opened.

He'd be nuts not to insist on it/them.

On that, I'm with him.

Meanwhile, “Denise is the best CEO in the business; no question”

Which business is this? Sycophanting? Pretending? Dreaming?

Nick's clip is Kenwright talking total shite about the enormous expertise then (and largely now) in our boardroom so adored by every other major football club.

He makes David Brent seem like Martin Luther King when it comes to integrity.

Stay strong!

It’s called money-driven favouritism Yerg. In old English; BIAS.

Hope Dyche riles up the big gobshite again and snots him in the tunnel.

https://princerupertstower.com/2021/01/22/everton-new-kante/

It was my wedding night 😂😂👍

Can anyone tell me, seriously, the last red the bastards got?

As for Dychey, he’ll have a good go at Bingo!! Go on Sean lad.

"Name the only Premier League club in history who failed to appoint any manager at all in January, or sign any players despite selling one of their own for £40mill whilst being at the bottom of the Premier League?"

If any of the very top clubs want to seek advice on the one true answer I suggest they phone me instead of our self-proclaimed, for decades, self-serving bullshitting greatest ever Evertonian.

Cue Madness's "Embarrassment".

Again.

We sold a key player, sacked our manager midway through the window and then appointed the new manager on pretty much deadline day.

Last year we were 16th at this point and survived by the skin of our teeth. Will we be so fortunate this time? Surely repeating something that has taken us backwards previously isn't wise. Yet here we are in the spiral of doom. We're circling the drain repeating the same processes with ever dwindling returns.

They should get the result back in 6-8 weeks. Until then, Jonathon Williams, 'Deputy Director of Football Operations', will manage the team, whilst Kevin Thelwell continues trawling thru EFC fansites for ideas for new signings.

Normal service (sic!) whatever that means will resume on April 1st 2023...

Since then we've sold Richarlison, our best player by far, to sit on Spurs' bench.

I'm not having a dig at Dyche today, and I think his comments on us, above, were fully vindicated by relegated Burnley dicking us on the day, but just what will be his first team talk to our disparate squad as a consequence, almost all still there from when he so rightly derided them?

And it's not the inept squad's fault - who look around seeking any sign of a plan for the future in which they might personally develop in their career.

And it's not Dyche's fault - he's a professional in a dog eat dog "industry".

Will anyone not yet nailed-on as a critic of our ruinous owner/board care to comment?

Do not know whether to laugh or cry over the depth that this incompetent Owner and Board have sunk this Proud Club, and the only people who seem to care about it is those magnificent supporters who have to pay to see it being ruined.

And this is when the Owner and Board say they care, if you did you would never have let it happen.

If it was going to be Dyche, this should have been done and dusted by last Wednesday at the latest.

Instead of that, the fella arrived on Friday lunchtime at our training ground and still the club hasn't made an announcement almost 72 hours later.

We bring Bielsa over for talks even though that was a deal that was never happening for either party.

Exactly why I said that simply removing Frank Lampard was solving nothing.

I'm not being negative just realistic here.

I see no way at all how this current Everton squad finds enough points or goals to survive.

It's the flip of a coin even if we manage to pull off two really good attacking signings but as it currently is, not a chance.

And no, I don't know he has been working on any transfers, but let's not be so negative before we know any facts whatsoever behind the lack of no announcement. You never know, today could be a quadruple announcement!!

Let us hope it is treated like poison for the next 4 months and Dyche is given the full support he deserves.

Leaving it to the last minute to appoint Dyche, making it near impossible for him to bring in the right player as he will have less than 24 hours to bring in someone.

This once mighty club has become a joke, even my red shite mates don't give me shit anymore.

Honestly, do you think we're about to do great business in the remainder of the transfer window?

Yep, I'm feeling pretty negative. But feeling optimistic about Everton's ability to do good business is just foolish by now, surely?

The fact we have a DoF will mean there is background activity going on. It's just whether we can do deals.

And if Thelwell managed to prise the Gordon cash from Bill before he headed to the Bank of Kenwright!!

I apologise. I am becoming more cynical and frustrated.

So, to pick myself up, I think negotiations will be taking place and deals in place. It was probably reliant on the sale of Gordon, which Newcastle only announced yesterday. Hardly swift business on their part.

A sleepless 48 hours glued to Sky Sports News and Social Media ahead.

Remember in 2008 when Moyes signed Fellaini in the middle of the night and next day we woke up to the big Belgian fella?

I wouldn't mind another deadline day like that.

The club not announcing a new manager is not the important issue here, despite the fact we all know Dyche is the new manager, but getting new players in ASAP is!

They will, in my view, be working their tripes out to get players in. Not being a huge catch and not having much financial wiggle room makes it obvious that we will do business very late in the window. Not sure what the angst is here, either.

He will probably go over what he said and why he said it, and then continue by saying that he believes that they have been concentrating that much on trying to play like Lampard wanted, that they have stopped concentrating on the basic fundamentals that win you football matches?

He will probably then say, that he’s been proven right, considering how many football matches Everton have won this season, and then he might point out to the players that they survived last season by sheer will, and if they can impose this into their game, then everything will slowly start to become a lot better.

I’m ever the optimist, if only football could be this simple!!

I think the players really try (but didn't seem to at West Ham) they just arent good enough.

Scary thing is, Efc are probably trying (24/7) to get players in but no one wants to come. :(

It's getting more and more intolerable to support the blues and I'm sure Kenwright and co get some weird perverse pleasure out of delaying anything remotely newsworthy. Let the peasants wait attitude.

It's a scandal considering the amount of money their paying themselves for being directors. What a waste of money ! They stink the place out and need sacking the lot of them.

My concern is he's seen loyal Everton supporters concerns of the board, and knows Bill Kenwright has been hanging around and being unproductive for decades.

Is he having second thoughts about the board and squad, 7 managers in so few years cannot all be wrong.

I listened with interest with one of the Wrexham co-owners after yesterday's FA Cup match.

How refreshing and interesting.

Aiming for the Premier League despite being currently sat in the 5th tier of English football. Why shouldn't we was his response when questioned. Ambition. Remember that?

Apparently looked at a number of clubs before settling on Wrexham. Interesting again given the proximity.

Not interested in interfering on controlling what happens on the pitch, that's for the coaches. Further interesting. I guess that was potentially a 2 minute awkward conversation with Bill.

And they have sold 24,000 "soccer jerseys" across North America and building the brand. They have apparently run out of supply.

I like to see certain other clubs do well, but it's depressed me.

Meanwhile in Hogwarts, Bill is smiling and telling everyone it's okay as he gets Everton and understands football because he stood in his boys pen. Fahrad nods and smiles back. We've got this under control.

He’s was on his way in this morning but the 82C broke down at the lights.

He’s since been arrested by the anti-terrorist squad for his specific internet search when ‘Dyche’ threw up ‘Daesh’ (other name for ISIS) - namely ‘Daesh to take no prisoners in vicious fight for survival’.

Anyway, all sorted now. He’s just gone the Asda for a butty and then he’ll get straight on it. Not long now.

We forgot about the competence and governance, which goes with any business that successfully scales up.

We've spent our ambition. That'll be on hold until the next owner. I'm hoping Sean provides a solid base for him/them.

But there is a difference between having a plan, a vision and a strategy to support that ambition in comparison to what we done, which was reckless spending with no plan or vision.

We may have had ambition but we didn't have the right people to execute it.

“And we’ll fight, fight, fight, with all our might …………… 👍

I fear that at present we are not an attractive proposition for any potential vendor, maybe a vulture fund smelling blood, never mind any talented young footballer.

If things don't break for us in the transfer market over the next 48 hours its going to be a very difficult end to the season! If they do, we will be closer to 12th than 20th come the season end.

Our chances of surviving will have greatly increased if the funds obtained from the Gordon sale are spent properly.

In short, in that one game, they had a plan, stuck to it and looked a lot more organised than Everton have been all season under Frank, hopefully Dychey will get them working together and organise a new fit for the team if they listen, better days ahead for the rest of the season.

So, we're not just on the sports pages!

is a running joke now as everyone know he is our new boss - the club just can't be bothered to tell us properly. maybe they'll just let us work it out when he turns up in the dugout on Saturday.

Good luck to Dyche anyway and hope he does well. Am fully behind him and think he is good manager who has a decent chance of getting us to safety. A tough, no nonsense leader is what the club and players need right now.

Every man and his dog knows we desperately needed at least three in, well before the Manager Interviews were about to happen. Which beggars the question what is the role of the Director of Football ?

He impressed me when he was appointed, and outlined what he wanted for the future, but there has been little evidence of any wise footballing decisions being made since then, is he there in 'title' just to make it look good ?

Hahahaha!!

So much for Everton Football Club learning to communicate with it's fans.

For me this is everything in a nutshell that is wrong with our club.

Dyche is apparently taking training today. I expect him to say at his unveiling that working with the players is more important than doing the media stuff.

We now see almost the opposite in operation, or should I say, lack of it ?

A team, that when they gained possession, made the pitch big and created space for those players to run into and pass into the space. It was a very open game, but great to watch.

I make it sound simple. Sometimes it is. If you sit in the confines of your own box, you are inviting trouble and the law of average. You will eventually concede.

Get up the pitch and play in the other team's half more that in your own.

I mean, delaying the appointment was an absolute charm last year

He will be looking forward to working with Culvert-Lewin.

Just wanted to be the first to it!!!!!

I hope we don’t buy anyone in this transfer window. They won’t make us any better than what we have already ( they never have in Moshiri,s time and our young players ( Simms etc ) will do just as good.

Reference Dyche, I don’t care if he’s announced or not. I don’t think he’s going to get us out of being relegated ( just my opinion and I hope I’m wrong) and would rather get a full time manager next season for a proper go at the Championship

The great Sean Dyche is using us and Bill is trying to find the title that suits before any announcement.
I can see the headline now. ‘ Everton announce their new ‘ Care-Worker ‘

I bet Arteta, Klopp, and Guardiola are shitting themselves.

In the words of Johnny Rotten, “ever like you’ve been cheated?”

Am thinking about growing a disc beard...

I'll try not to dwel on his poor win record, or that's he got Burnley relegated twice and plays totally awful anti-football crap.

The fact is he wasn't considered good enough last time but we are now more desperate than ever thanks to the boards lack of footballing knowledge. Bill now praises him which makes me worry even more.

Can we stay up with almost half a season still to play, of courses we can.
Will we blow the £40M down the drain on desperate deadline days signings, absolutely.
Am I going to attend any matches with Sean in charge, no.

For all the fan's who wanted Sean, are happy with Sean, believe he was the best of the 2 candidates or even think he was a sensible choice for the shortlist, I hope your happy and enjoy watching the team.

Good luck all blues, for now, I'm out.

Just kidding 🙂

Cheers ( I think) lol