Final-day showdown on Sky Sports?

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Looking forward to the final weekend of this largely horrible season for us in the Premier League, it seems that Arsenal will still have a chance to become Champions, however small.

It should mean a great day for the loyal band of away supporters who have done such a tremendous job getting behind the team, especially through that extremely painful barren spell. 

And for the large majority of us who can not be part of that faithful Blue troup, I think it means that the Arsenal game is almost certain to be one of the three final-day games that will be televised live and in full by our friends at Sky Sports. 

Hopefully Sean Dyche will see this as one final chance this season to show the footballing world his penchant for rigorous defence against potentially overwhelming opposition, even though Pickford's chance of securing the best record for clean sheets has slipped away now.

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That would be a much better watch than some of the more horrendous final-day outings we have suffered over the years against The Gunners, and be an excellent tribute to what Sean Dyche has achieved for us this season. 

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Danny O’Neill
1 Posted 15/05/2024 at 08:02:07
All I am thinking about right now is playing Arsenal on Sunday.

Let's hope for a good end to a long hard season that tried to sap the energy out of us. But couldn't.

As for all the other stuff, in reality, we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.

I'll think about that in the summer and see what happens. I can't influence it.

Derek Knox
2 Posted 15/05/2024 at 08:33:59

I think we all share that we never know what goes on behind the scenes. What worries me is the time, the longer it drags on, surely the worse it will be for us. Dyche and Thelwell won't know who to sell, or if there is any transfer kitty available to replace the out-of-contract players. What a mess!

As I have always said too, none of this is down to (imho) the best fans in the World, yet we are the ones who are suffering the most. It's like witnessing a loved one being abused and being powerless to step in and prevent it!

Danny O’Neill
3 Posted 15/05/2024 at 09:27:37
Derek. Hopefully we can meet up pre-season once they announce the plans.

I hope the supporters have a great day out on Sunday. I don't care who wins the league, it doesn't affect us. I just want Everton to perform and win.

Derek Knox
4 Posted 15/05/2024 at 09:35:56
Thanks Danny, I believe you are like myself in many ways regarding Everton. We can reluctantly accept defeat, if they have given 100%, and basically been beaten by a better team.

I know the game on Sunday has little in it for us, apart from possibly finishing higher than Brentford, who have a possibly difficult tie themselves, at home to Newcastle.

There again, if Man City win at home to West Ham (can't see anything other to be honest), it will be of no use to Arsenal to beat us, apart from pride.

The beauty and tension of all final-day fixtures being played at the same time!

Danny O’Neill
5 Posted 15/05/2024 at 10:35:02
Let's just get this season out of the way, cheer the blues on at Arsenal on Sunday and then see what happens.

Like thousands, I can't control anything other than watching them play at The Emirates and then wondering what to do with myself until August.

The rest is up to the owner, the Premier League and potential investors / future owners to decide. I had no say in Kenwright taking over from Johnson. I'll have no say in this. Very few, if any will.

But we will keep following and watching Everton as we always have done. Whether you've been there from the cradle and born into it like me or you've adopted them, once they've got you, there is no going back.

Rob Halligan
9 Posted 15/05/2024 at 15:32:43
After watching the Spurs v Man City game last night, many pundits seem to have come to the conclusion that it's all done and dusted, and that Man City only have to turn up and be presented with the Premier League trophy. It was also the same had City drawn or lost:, Arsenal only had to turn up and be presented with the trophy.

For me, this shows a total lack of respect for both us and West Ham. Whilst neither West Ham nor Everton have anything to play for, at least show us both some respect.

Okay, the odds are heavily stacked on both Everton and West Ham getting any kind of result on Sunday but, with the pressure and fear of relegation now removed for us, maybe we can show up and get something at Arsenal?

West Ham's European chances have gone, and with it being the last game for Moyes, who knows? Both us and West Ham can now play with a bit of freedom, and make a game of it.

Danny O’Neill
11 Posted 15/05/2024 at 15:50:31
The shackles are off Rob. Go and play with belief.

It is disrespectful to Everton and West Ham to think we are going to lay down arms.

No player or football team walks onto a football pitch not wanting to win, whoever they are playing.

We ruined Sky's deliberately staged relegation derby against Luton. Like I've said, I don't care who wins the league on Sunday, I just want to see Everton to win. It's why you, the travelling 3000 and those watching elsewhere follow.

We have defied everything they have thrown at us.

Sky can make a Hollywood style drama out of it as much as they want. I'm glad I won't be watching it from that angle.

Good luck blues, wherever you are. It's going to be a good day out. Or night, depending where you are!

@Michael, we are all faithful. My word, the effort you and Lyndon put into this site that unites and sometimes creates debate is outstanding. You are as big an Evertonian as anyone. Respect.

Lyndon Lloyd
12 Posted 15/05/2024 at 18:28:10
It's on TNT Sports, I believe. Sky are showing City vs West Ham
Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 15/05/2024 at 20:47:35
Yep, I've just seen that, Lyndon.

Mark Murphy
14 Posted 15/05/2024 at 21:36:57
I was at the 7-0 pasting when all that was at stake was our pride.

Still fuming!

I'm playing cricket this Sunday - roll on next season but UTFT

Shane Corcoran
15 Posted 15/05/2024 at 21:46:31
Fair play to you lads. Once relegation was avoided I haven't watched a minute of Everton.

There comes a point when I want to enjoy watching football and watching the Blues is rarely enjoyable.

Barry Rathbone
16 Posted 15/05/2024 at 22:08:59
Despite Moyes, I reckon West Ham will hold Man City and Arsenal will do us over by 4 to win the title.
Neil Copeland
17 Posted 15/05/2024 at 22:16:47
There is a huge amount of pressure on Arsenal for this game and none on us. Of course they are massive favourites but there will be that element of doubt in their minds. You just never know.

See you there Danny and Rob, it all feels a bit strange being quite relaxed about the game. I too just hope we put in a decent performance.

Derek Thomas
19 Posted 16/05/2024 at 07:58:17
Barry @ 16; there you go then – I see it the other way round.

Man City gallop off quickly and are 2-0 up early doors, Arsenal lose heart and only draw.

Reality says both we and West Ham get beat without much fuss or drama and it's a quadruple for Pep.

Tony Abrahams
20 Posted 16/05/2024 at 08:20:31
I'm a bit like that, Shane, and haven't really got much interest in Sunday's game because I think Man City did the hard bit the other night.

I've had a lovely few weeks thanks to the silence of those deluded self-superior gobshites across the park who thought they only had to turn up and would love to see Everton concede a last-minute goal if it meant Arsenal could pip City to win the league.

Rob Halligan
21 Posted 16/05/2024 at 16:22:12
Forget the final day showdown, the biggest game this weekend is the final of the ToffeeWeb fantasy football league Cup Final between me and Paul Ferry.

Prepare to take a pasting, Mr Ferry!!

Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 16/05/2024 at 16:26:01
Moyes in his last game with West Ham, possibly last game as a Premier League manager, will be totally up for the Man City clash.

The wily old master of mind games and tactical astuteness will send home Pep in tears and earn some measure of redemption from Man Utd fans.

Oh wait, I just saw he said something in the paper akin to bring a plastic butter knife to a gunfight.

Danny O’Neill
23 Posted 16/05/2024 at 16:36:57
Rob and Paul. That could get tense!

Let's go and enjoy the day and match stress free.

Although I suspect you'll be closely watching your fantasy league teams!!

Rick Pattinson
24 Posted 16/05/2024 at 19:00:59
I heard Calvert Lewin wants a song sang for him.

So here's one you can sing to him on Sunday, to James Blunt's Beautiful:

"He's beautiful, he's beautiful, he's beautiful and blue
With his leap and pace and his gorgeous face
And we know what he can do…
Score a fucking goal or two!!!"

Christine Foster
25 Posted 16/05/2024 at 20:55:23
So, Masters will not be at the Man City ground to hand them the Premier League winners trophy. Instead, he will be at Arsenal watching us.

Now forgive me the politics but one just has to say, "It wouldn't be a good sight politically to hand over such a trophy, when you are charging said club for financial breaches that have got them where they are today."

Ted Roberts
26 Posted 17/05/2024 at 08:20:37
Christine he is so adept at the “Shithouse Shuffle” isn't he.

“I didn't give them the Trophy, Your Honour, I have known they were cheating bastards all along.”

You could just imagine that outcome at the select committee inquiry, couldn't you.

Danny O’Neill
27 Posted 17/05/2024 at 08:32:53
He probably planned to watch us go down Christine as we have been in his sights!

If Arsenal do win it and he walks on the pitch to award the trophy, I'm sure he'll get an appropriate reaction from the 3,000 in the corner.

Rick, there is an adaptation of "Bella Ciao" doing the rounds with regards to Dominic.

Christine Foster
28 Posted 17/05/2024 at 08:41:27
I hope he gets a rousing reception from our 3,000 anyway, Danny, he deserves every call in my estimation. With derision...
Rob Halligan
29 Posted 17/05/2024 at 08:59:01
Time to dig out the Premier League Corrupt cards!
Danny O’Neill
30 Posted 17/05/2024 at 09:30:39
I'm glad I won't be watching on TV. The BBC are already building up the Klopp-fest.

That song and fist pumping.

Nicholas Ryan
31 Posted 17/05/2024 at 10:37:49
I think poor Moysey may have been misunderstood all these years and that he actually said: 'It's like bringing a knife to a Bunfight'!
Michael Lynch
33 Posted 17/05/2024 at 10:48:37
Danny mate, don't worry about it. Considering what a wank-fest it would have been if the RS were involved in the fight for the title, or in the FA Cup final, Herr Klopp is slinking away with comparatively little fanfare.

Nobody cares outside the cities of Liverpool and Oslo.

Farewell you fist-pumping, gurning, passive aggressive, arrogant twat.

Trevor Powell
34 Posted 17/05/2024 at 11:39:32
How is the Premier League fixture computer sending us to play away at Arsenal on the last round of the season?

It's a bit Groundhog Day!

Christine Foster
35 Posted 18/05/2024 at 01:53:33
I came across a breakdown of the 115 charges against Manchester City from BeIN sports for the first time and I thought it would be good to actually list the alleged transgressions, which, in context to our own and Forests are mind blowing. For the record its the first time I have seen this breakdown but it gives us the opportunity to ask the Premier League the question Why haven't some of the charges been actioned?

Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18 - 54 alleged breaches

Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations from December 2018 - present [February 2023] - 35 alleged breaches

Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009/10 to and including 2017/18 - 14 alleged breaches

Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015/16 to and including 2017/18 - Seven alleged breaches

Failure to comply with UEFA's regulations, including UEFA's Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations - Five alleged breaches

Whilst some are likely to be a matter for lawyers, others, such as the breaches of PSR are clearly not if treated the same way as Everton have.

Matt Traynor
36 Posted 18/05/2024 at 02:08:13
Christine #35, the charges against City are more numerous and at least as serious as those committed by Rangers in the SevCo case - which saw them stripped of titles and demoted to the lowest league division for historical cases. (Everton benefited by acquiring Steven Naismith on a free).

I doubt anything so severe will happen to City. It was reported that 3 or 4 months ago the case was raised in an official diplomatic meeting with UAE by the Arab side. Mixing sport with politics. This will be swept aside with a financial penalty - I would love to be wrong on this.

Eric Myles
37 Posted 18/05/2024 at 03:28:50
Matt #36, according to this article Everton share of windfall if Man City are deducted points, Everton could receive £19 million in 'lost' revenues due to league placings.

Of course it's all conjecture but we could then point out to the Premier League that money is the same amount we were over their PSR limit by and we should not have been deducted points.

Paul Ferry
38 Posted 18/05/2024 at 03:56:13
Rob H, what is this ToffeeWeb fantasy football league Cup Final you speak of between thou and me?

I genuinely don't know as I've been busy running away with leagues!

Background. I am currently leading the no-red-shite-league that is formed from folk on here by, hang on, by 127 points - points total 2491 (Rob is a little behind on 2268). And I am also top of the ToffeeWeb fantasy league by 34 points.

I accept your challenge Robert Halligan and may the best blue win - hang on, that's you. No may the best human being win, which is probably you too.


Paul Ferry
39 Posted 18/05/2024 at 04:04:34
Get yer songs and signs ready for the North Wharf Road Beelzebub Masters, Rob, Danny, Neil C, and all the rest. Give the piece of shit and his outfit everything that he/they deserve.

And thanks to you three and everyone else of the 3,000 (plus) for your magnificent support away from the Old Lady.

Paul Ferry
40 Posted 18/05/2024 at 04:52:59
I see it now Rob, I didn’t know there were cup games going on. I coasted through the rounds, I see.

So, folks, if Rob as the better blue and human being beats me in the ToffeeWeb FL Cup Final that would be on a par with Wigan beating City or Sunderland beating Leeds; league form goes out the window, as the tired old cliché says.

OK, I’m foresically examining Rob’s team, probing for weaknesses, going through each player one-by-one. I see things.

Should I just let Rob win the three-handled-cup and caress my one perhaps two league titles? Although Rob’s right, this is the game of the weekend.

I need to get inside Rob’s head. Find out where he is vulnerable.

"Treble, treble, I wanna treble and I want one now".

Michael Kenrick
41 Posted 18/05/2024 at 08:47:08
Eric @37,

I tried to get into the mindset behind that rather odd article... seems the principle behind it is other Premier League clubs claiming compensation for sporting advantage gained by Man City flouting financial rules.

I don't really want to scatch this still festering wound but there was a fair bit of talk that went with Everton's first 10-point deduction, on an additional ruling made on the side by the Independent Commission last year, relating to Rule W.27 about awarding compensation for loss sustained by other clubs as a result of our egregious malfeasance.

Seems the commission could have ordered compensation to affected clubs under Rule W51.5 after finding EFC had breached PSR. However, that was not part of their finding.

What I'd forgotten was that this side ruling said clubs had 28 days after the November decision to pursue any claims for compensation.

Thankfully in our case it appears that none of them did… which seems odd in retrospect because that 10-point deduction (reduced to 6 points on appeal) should strictly have been applied in season 2022-23, and would have relegated Everton to the Championship in place of Leicester City.

Tracking back, we reported as a rumour the story that Leicester City, Burnley and Leeds Utd withdrew their potential claims (Unclear if they ever did actually claim?) for compensation from Everton because it could force the club into administration, and further that they would pursue a negotiated settlement with the club.

Never any further news that I could find, so it just faded away…

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