Bayern still strongly linked as Onana continues to attract transfer speculation

Half the champions league teams want Onana but he isn't a big loss for us, a bang average prem team !

That's good news for us Anthony. He just doesn't fit Dyche's style but would certainly work in Italy or Spain. The only downside long term, is that when we're eventually settled as a top 8 team again, the new owner may well change the manager for a more expansive style. Too late for Onana who, by then will no doubt be worth double what we're about to sell him for.

Onana reminds me of Bob Dillon. All these music people rave about, pay a fortune to go to his concerts and I just see a guy who can't sing. Give me Bon Jovi over him any day of the week.

And so Onana – I see a guy who can't dribble, seldom scores, can't pass any distance, is an erratic tackler but the football aficionados love him. I'd much rather Gareth Barry or Gueye but I get I don't have an educated palate when it comes to the finer things.

Hi Kieran,

Bob Dillon I was thinking... this some new lightweight whippersnapper? Oh, you mean Mr Bobby Zimmerman!

Big Bob Dylan? A man responsible for some of the best music of the 20th and 21st centuries? Bringing together folk, country, rock and pop to influence the world.

Shake it up, just like bad medicine!

Agree on Onana tho!

Indeed Kieran...Bob DYLAN cannot carry a tune in a bucket but thats not really what he's about. Alan Ball was pretty average in defending corners come to think of it

Kieran #3, Bon Jovi hasn't been able to sing for years now. Still trying to recover from vocal cord surgery.

Anyway, yeah, it's all a matter of style. It's ironic that some of the biggest clubs on the planet want Onana when many Evertonians would wave him off in a second, but it doesn't make either side stupid.

I wouldn't have paid a dime to go hear Pavarotti perform. But I'd have paid $100 for a ticket to Linda Ronstadt. Better voice. (Now tragically lost.)

Alan,

I am a simple man…

Like that Michael Palin Monty Python character.

Mike

It wasn't that long ago it was in 2022. I saw him a few years before in KC — Richie Sambora was absent as he was in rehab — but I'll tell you the old fellow at 50 plus was the equivalent of 16 year old Wayne Rooney v Arsenal.

Kieran...just don't mention the Spanish Inquisition. No one expects them!

Alan

Luckily we will get knocked out of the Euros before we face them

Promising young player with potential being looked at by elite teams, yet a team that avoided relegation, having points deducted, starved of funds with a hodgepodge squad and a Manager who is used to fighting regulation battles, has fans that can't see it.

Why are some people so annoyed that not all of us rate Onana as highly as they do?

I think Ben Godfrey, for example, is a decent player but I don't get annoyed with people who don't.

Heard it all now Onana with his similarities to Bob Dylan and Jon Bon Jovi!!!

Anyways... Onana is junk. I just don't see it!

Mark #14, if you've ever wanted to see annoyance, you should have seen Dave Abrahams' posts every time I complimented Onana!

Kieran.

Bon Jovi? Really?

He can't tackle, can't find a pass, and if you expect a decent goal return you must be livin' on a prayer.

Get a grip fer fuck's sake.

Bon Jovi, is a good shout Kieran, because there must be loads of Evertonians, “livin' on a prayer” waiting to see if this news is actually true! (Sharp Brian - sharper than me anyway!!)

I vowed I'd never go and see Dylan live, unless I won the lottery and I could pay for him to come and play around my own little campfire, and then I succumbed even though I knew he would be shite!

It was still a great day because my mate had told me to get down early because there was a bootleg band playing earlier on in the day, and they were absolutely brilliant. Maybe Robert, suffered from stage-fright, or maybe he was just a lot better in the recording studio, than he ever was live?

Onana, is definitely in that same studio now, shows talent, but he needs to stop pointing and he needs to start trying to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Maybe he just needs better players, but - sooner or later, one of us must know, if he just did what he was supposed to do!

Mike @14,

I think Onana is going to be a very good player, and like to keep saying so on here just to stick a pin in the Abrahams patriarch!

Bayern's football hierarchy have a good record of attracting and developing talent, as do Arsenal, so Onana must have good quality and top fees are being paid for good No.6s. He is also only 22 years old.

He can collect the ball from the defence under pressure, half turn and move the ball forwards with accuracy. This is not something that Gueye and Doucs do comfortably.

He isn't perhaps what we need right now, but he is going to have a successful career.

Mike (14),

Telling it like I see it is not annoyance, your hyped-up version of Onana makes me shake my head at how you see him him though.

Onana is already a very good ball-winner and could prove one of the world best at that thanks to his rare combination of speed and size (our fastest player last year FYI). On the ball he's unspectacular but rarely loses it and is fairly press-resistant, he can pass it efficiently both long and short but is clearly not a playmaker yet.

He's never going to be Frank Lampard or Patrick Viera but could suit an attacking team who play a high line and need a ball winner who can cover space quickly.

He'll be an important part of a better team than Everton soon enough. I hope we get upwards of £50m for him.

There's a player in there - just not with us. Right player, wrong time, wrong manager.

Mike, Dave - I'm prepared to split the difference with you two.

I think Onana has all the potential that Mike G sees in him but more often than not he plays as Dave A says he does.

Dyche likes a team of grafters so there's no room for classy smooth operators in his sides. No disrespect to Dyche as he has done the right thing for the Everton of now.

No doubt Onana will move on a become a key player in a top team likewise Calvert-Lewin will probably start scoring more frequently in a better team.

One day, hopefully, we will have a team of class ball players but as it stands we need fighters.

Why not just loan him out to one of these teams for a big loan fee?

How much did we pay for him? Daily Mail say £34M but I'm sure it wasn't that much.

The whole point of selling, I guess, is to make a huge profit before Sunday.

Just checked with the a few other sources and I was wrong:

The Mail have it about right but worryingly the Guardian mention a 20% sell-on fee to Lille.

Have tickets to watch Dylan with Willie Nelson and John Melencamp in September.

Providing they are all still alive will probably be more effort on stage than Onana puts in a season.

That's not fair that, Craig, because I've seen Onana put in plenty of effort trying to rouse the crowd with his cheerleading skills.

Given we are trying to sell him for a big profit, shouldn't we be praising Onana to the skies?

If we can get over £50 million for him, then I love the lad.

Bob Dylan was one of the greatest songwriters that ever lived – just a pity his voice was no match for his other skills.

Likewise with Onana he is exceptional at some things but doesn't impose himself on the game and demand the ball more.

As he matures and gets more confidence, I believe he will be one of the best players in his position.

Mike,

I also read there is a 20% sell-on fee due to Lille, a sobering thought. If that's true. we would need to get £40M for him just to break even. Hopefully somebody would pay £45-50M for his much-vaunted "potential".

He's 23 in a few weeks and if he doesn't start recognising that potential soon, clubs will become more and more reluctant to pay for it.

Sell or keep. The window is narrowing.

20% sell-on is on the profit only. It's never on the sale price alone.

I listened to a podcast with an agent and that was confirmed.

Steve (30),

I did that yesterday on Grandoldteam, you wouldn't believe the character reference I gave him.

All lies of course but it was in a good cause, anything to help Everton FC.

Jay @33.

Can you list Onana's “exceptional” skills please.

Onana's most exceptional skill is his ability to make others think he has exceptional skills.

And, that, is an exceptional skill.

Thanks, Ian.

I didn't know that.

Onana in the best 11 of the Euros group stage.

Crap tho according to the world-renowned ToffeeWeb scouts!

Onana is seen by the top clubs as a Busquets type midfielder. He tries to do it for us but it just doesn't really work in our team.

I believe the belief is that, in a team full of quality players, his combative style will gel with those around him who possess a bit more quality than we have at Everton. At least this is what I've read – and I can see the logic a little bit but y'know, we're no experts, any of us, are we...

If all these top clubs are after Amadou Onana, then hopefully a bidding war will start.

A couple of midfielders went for around the £100M mark last season, but I will be very surprised if Everton make £10M on him once they have had to pay the French club their percentage… Hopefully I'm wrong.

There are very few/no real experts when it comes to signing footballers, IMO, James.

I've watched Onana in the Euros quite closely and my one word description of him is "languid". He never seems to break sweat. His sole contribution seems to be the ability to hit passes to his teammates providing theye are no more than 15 yards distant ! If we can get a few million for him I'll be satisfied.

Les 37,
Great reader of the game, very accurate passing long and short, rarely gives the ball away, good tackling and interception, Useful in the air with his height.

His only weakness for me is he doesnt take a game by the scruff of the neck and impose himself but he is young enough to improve on that.

Some see it some don't such is the way of the game.