Pessimism over Tyler Dibling after Southampton reject third Everton bid

A bid in the region of £40m which includes a lot of hope value, for a player with undoubted potential seems fair value to me.
If we can’t do a deal at this level, then at this stage in the Everton journey, it’s probably time to move to next target.

While Southampton rate this boy very highly as do some independent people in the game, I think £40m for a 19 year old who will be playing in the Championship this year is a huge bid. Also why if the boy is that talented haven't any of the big boys come in for him, or maybe they want to see the boy develop before splashing the cash.
Should this deal go through the pressure on a 19 year old bought for in excess of £40m will be immense. The fee has nothing to do with the player that's between the selling and buying clubs, but that wont stop the fans expectation. I am sure seeing all the speculation the boys head will be turned as no doubt will his agents, after all of this I just cant see him being at Southampton at the close of the window.

It was suggested we could get Kubo for £35M.

I still think this has legs, despite the ongoing saga. Why move on to another target, thus starting the process all over again and potentially missing out?

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place on all our transfers. The selling clubs and agents hold all the cards so we have little choice but to play the game.

Our situation is very well documented so naturally we have to pay the asking price no matter who we're dealing with. Our needs are great and everyone knows that so all we can do is pay or we don't buy anyone.

It's simple really.

Time to move on. He's a promising player but probably not worth the time and hassle being invested now.

Be interesting to see how he reacts if Everton walk away and will it push him into handing in a transfer request.

Southampton reportedly could pursue compensation due to Everton FFP
paybacks a bitch

Move on now and try for Hutchinson from Ipswich looks quality might even get him for less ?

“Following the latest Everton bid that was worth in the region of £40million, Southampton came back with a proposal of £45m plus £5m in easily achievable bonuses and a 25 per cent sell-on clause.

That is beyond what Everton would be looking to pay for the 19-year-old winger and Southampton have been informed of their intention to focus on other targets, who are being pursued in parallel, due to the wide valuation gap.

Southampton do not plan to reduce their price owing to a belief that Dibling is the best young English player on the market and key to their aims of being promoted back to the Premier League.”

Time to move on, unless the player puts pressure on Soton and demands a move.

Is it not an issue of upfront payment that’s holding it up? They’ve been offered £43 million but £8 million of that is add-ons, but Southampton want a guaranteed upfront amount? Maybe give £40 million upfront and £5 in add-ons so they’ve got their £45. But as a final offer.

Steve (8) It sounds like Southampton are acting like Swansea when the price was going up and up after each bid we made for the footballer who couldn’t be named, and there were no other clubs bidding for him. Has there been any other bids for Dibling besides Everton’s’ ?

According to the Athletic Everton have walked away from it.

While the fee seems excessively high, the final decision will be made by people who know better than most fans on what he could bring to the team. Could this be our 'Rooney' moment - when Man U got their player after paying about 35 million (equivalent of 100 million plus today), and the rest turned out to be history? Dibling has done nothing yet to suggest that he is anywhere close to Rooney's level, but the potential to reach that level is there. It would be a huge statement of intent by Everton to get Dibling - it is certainly a big risk for Everton, but is it that big of a difference between paying 35 million for Kubo/Hutchinson and 45 million for Dibling? In the long run, given the money in the game, I suggest not. I would be sickened if the RS/Tottenham/one of the other big boys were to swoop in for Dibling and he turns out to be a star there. We are long overdue a bit of luck in finding our new talisman - I hope it turns out to be Dibling.

Agree Dave, if we get further involved in the process it would have the smell of daft Farhad getting fleeced.

Soton are in the Championship, and that’s where they will be at the end of the 2025/26 season. Go back next summer as Dibling will only have 12 months left on his deal then.

Jon @ 6, heard that multiple times about Leicester, Soton and Burnley.

Hasn’t happened and won’t happen.

Yes, Swansea and Sigurdsson, when we kept outbidding ourselves until Swansea got what they wanted.

If the club has walked away, then rightfully so if Southampton are playing games. They are going to have to sell and if they leave it until next summer, his price will drop significantly.

To me, if this is Everton's course of action, it smells of TFG. They walked away from taking over Everton until Moshiri decided to come back and agree to their offer.

I think the days of the previous regime's negotiation strategy of "how much do you want" are behind us.

No more Dibling quibbling.

I was all for this kid at £40M but, if Southampton are knocking back silly money for a lad of his age, they really are as stupid as we think.

No doubt in my mind that Dibling is going to be a player, but we can't be held to ransom; otherwise, they'll keep shoving the price up.

Everton would be wise to tell them where to get off and they'd be left with one very unhappy player.

As Dave A said, telling that there's not really anyone else in for him.

I'd be disappointed but there's others out there.

Clubs like Arsenal can gamble £50M on Dibling, clubs like Everton cannot. We haven't even got a team yet, let alone a squad.

Get it wrong and we're back to 'Koeman' days and 5 more years of having our bollocks in the PSR vice.

We have made the right decision. Now let's turn our attention other avenues.

I would have liked to have seen him in an Everton shirt but it would have been a big risk at £50M.

Hopefully we are already talking to alternatives or returning to up offers on players who are undecided.

£40M is a big gamble – especially for someone with little first-team experience.

Nobody but the clubs have any idea of the money involved.

If the kid wants the move, he should ask to leave.

Dibling could be brilliant – but the risk does start going up as the price gets north of £45M. We aren't yet made of money and can't spend our way out of failure.

Fair enough to hold out for a big fee but risk for them too if Dibling is unhappy. Still seems likely we'll get a good quality player for this position.

£27M was still a huge bid for a 19-year-old with no one else in for him, a relegated club and nothing to show but promise.

£50M is stupid. Walk away. I would rather have Richarlison back and that's not going to happen either.

25% sell-on clause on top of the transfer fee is ridiculous.

I'd only agree to that percentage if the initial price was lowered... by quite a bit.

It seems to me their counter offer wasn't a final offer. If we went back with £45M and 20% uplift, I reckon that would do it.

I'd pay that if we got £40M for Anthony Gordon a couple of years ago. I'd pay that all day long for this player.

Let's avoid offering stupid money we can ill afford to, for what? Potential — and no more than that.

Whilst we need more players and pace, there is no need for us to bend to Southampton's extortion.