Managers like Jose Mourinho, Phil Scolari, Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger have stated in a variety of forums and interviews that the central tenet of football philosophy is the process by which teams make the transition from a state of defence to one of attack. They explain that this one process and how it?s carried out is the key to success or the road to failure.
Their teams make the transition in a variety of ways and with a variety of different players but the one thing they do in common is that most of the time the players make a transition from defensive areas to attacking areas at pace, under control and as a unit. Note they point out the ?players? make the transition not just the ?ball?. This focus on players not ball is what makes their teams different to Everton under Moyes.
Moyes believes in the ?ball? making a transition from defence to attack not the players. To achieve transition under Moyes the defenders are encouraged to kick the ball long which lessens control of the ball, minimizes pace and lessens the cohesion of the unit so failing to achieve the keys points of transition.
Under Wenger the Arsenal players are told to achieve transition by players moving with the ball fast, with the ball under control of their team and as a unit so allowing support to the man with the ball.
Any one watching the Uefa Cup game will have seen Moyes's ?strategy? for transition in all it?s awful wretchedness ? especially during the last 20 minutes. The ?strategy? is best described as Neville and co punting the ball aimlessly into the box hoping someone in a blue shirt gets a lucky touch. Have we fallen so low?
It is apparent that Moyes (and Kenwright) don?t believe in football as played by the great EFC teams of the past; the type of football they serve up is not true to our traditions and should not be tolerated. In fact, we would not have tolerated it in the past ? I have been there when the cushions have rained down from the main stand and the rafters have rung with boos because we didn?t play the Everton way.
It seems a lot of people (especially in the boardroom) have forgotten who we are and what sort of football we have had in the past. The Directors of this club and all the Moyes apologists should hang their heads in shame at their betrayal of our heritage.
Moyes out, return real football to EFC!!
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1 Posted 22/09/2007 at 17:47:40
2 Posted 22/09/2007 at 18:46:07
3 Posted 22/09/2007 at 18:42:10
4 Posted 22/09/2007 at 19:18:07
5 Posted 22/09/2007 at 19:25:15
While I was as shocked as the next man about certain aspects of the game on Thursday we should still have won comfortably. Lets hope we can put things right in Ukraine. By the way if we win at Villa we go second so chin up.
6 Posted 22/09/2007 at 19:33:26
7 Posted 22/09/2007 at 19:32:34
Kenwright Wyness and Moyes all knew we had a paper thin squad and yet failed to deliver - THERE ARE NO EXCUSES.
But even given the shortage of players why play a midfield three of Osman Neville and Carsley against a team that we knew was going to pack the midfield.
Why not play Valente or Lescott at LB(assuming Stubbs was fit)and put Baines in midfield.Drop Neville to RB the only position he’s effective in and put our new 4 million central midfielder in place of Osman.
The other element is calming the players down instead of winding them up to charge around like headless chickens(a common feature of Moyes teams).
I have always had an open mind on Moyes but I now believe he is too one dimensional and too much in the mould of Gordon Lee.A nice guy,good average manager but out of his depth at Everton.
After 6 years are we all to settle for a top ten place and going out of every cup competition and Europe in the first round?
How low have we sunk as scousers and Evertonians if we continue to put up with this crap.
8 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:06:21
9 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:16:37
No one has the divine right to entertain and win cups.
Ask a Man City fan when they were playing Macclesfield ..IN A LEAGUE MATCH !..Ask a Leeds,Forest fan,playing Yeovil..IN A LEAGUE MATCH.
Still in the top tier since 1954 and playing in Europe..just !
So...move along now and give those fans living in the 21st century some air.
10 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:24:21
11 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:23:57
12 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:43:21
13 Posted 22/09/2007 at 20:56:00
This isn’t rocket science, it just takes the tight coach with the right methods and beliefs. Moyes I’m afraid is not that coach. Any Evertonian who believes this brand of football dished up by Moyes is the best we can expect because we have n’t got Abramovich’s millions is selling himself and our great club woefully short.
Unfortunately, whenever anyone expresses this type of view they are normally ridiculed for hating Moyes. I certainly don’t, he has done a genuinely superb job over the last 5 years for which I will be eternally grateful for and has got us ready for the next stage in our development, unfortunately he has proved time and time again that he just does not have the foresight or footballing intellect to take us there himself.
14 Posted 22/09/2007 at 21:35:03
15 Posted 22/09/2007 at 22:10:14
Mr Moyes took on the baton, when we needed a steady leg, but now both times and circumstances have changed...
I went on record last week saying that David Moyes had the tactical awareness of a retarded ferret, but having watched last Thursday nights farce, I must apologise to all ferrets with special needs...
16 Posted 22/09/2007 at 22:42:16
Perhaps I should conserve my money and stay nearer to home!
17 Posted 22/09/2007 at 22:50:04
18 Posted 23/09/2007 at 01:56:54
19 Posted 23/09/2007 at 01:53:53
20 Posted 23/09/2007 at 04:53:37
Ray, I also remember it raining cushions, thats probabley why they got rid of them.
21 Posted 23/09/2007 at 13:29:33
Now before I am labelled as a Moyes apologist I share some of the concerns about Moyes’s lack of tactical nous that have been aired by many on this site. But I also accept that this may be down to the quality of personnel, particularly in midfied, on offer. Either way I think Moyes has done enough to be allowed some more time to prove his detractors or apologists right or wrong.
22 Posted 23/09/2007 at 20:07:41
yak looks lost with the tatics.
he doesnt play that way moyes he wasnt the top scorer in the pm over the last 4 seasons (apart from th) by playing down the flanks he needs service?? we lack width and quality get the ball on the floor and play the Everton way?
MOYES OUT ITS TIME FOR A FRESH CHALLENGE
23 Posted 24/09/2007 at 17:15:02
It doesn’t seem to matter whether things are going our way or not, we still adopt the same tactic. Neville, Hibbert instructed to punt long, high, hopeful balls to the forwards to pointlessly chase. If we had some creativity, width and told to play the ball on the ground or be dropped, this wouldn’t be necessary. The forwards would stay in the middle, rather than running around wide.
Don’t get me wrong... I think Moyes is a diamond for how he’s transformed the club over the past few years, steadily getting rid of the deadwood and buying some real quality. But what’s the poiint if you don’t USE that quality wisely? Did Beattie suddenly become a terrible player by himself, or did Moyes help him? I thought he was crap, but seeing two other proven goalscorers AJ and Yak heading down the same path, it makes me wonder.
Worringly, our once-solid defence is leaking sloppy goals every game now. Not because they are bad, but because they are not concentrating. The pressure is on them to keep clean sheets, coz our attack is pathetic and it might be getting to them.
We will always struggle to score if we keep up with this approach. Get the ball on the ground and pick out a damn pass. It pains me to see us playing this way - so frustrating. I don’t know why it’s happening all of a sudden - it wasn’t this prevalent last season, nor in the first two games this season.
I can’t agree with the "Moyes Out" nonsense right now. But he has to see what’s wrong. Everyone waits for Hibbert to make a mistake. AJ is sick and tired of running into the corners, Yak is playing with his back to goal because nobody can pick a pass forward for him. We’re making this very easy for opposition defences.
Hibbert - out. Neville at RB. Then Jags or Carsley as the holding midfielder. Gravesen and Arteta in from the start. Then you can pick between Pienaar, Ossie and Faddy for the other spot.
Hell, even go back to 4-4-1-1 and have Arteta sit behind AJ or Yak - at least give them something to feed on.
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