That's what some fans/posters seem to believe is a realistic assessment anyway.
Well here's my assessment for you: Bill Kenwright, for the second time, has not been able/willing to financially support the guy who, without the moans of other managers I could name, has managed to take EFC into Europe again only to be left floundering.
When will the BK supporters wake up and smell the coffee? It's time to say thanks for helping us get shut of agent Johnson but you are now past your sell by date and are slowing the progress of our club. If you think about it 'Super' Kevin Campbell has made a bigger financial contribution to this club by scoring the goals that kept us in the top flight and we weren't sorry to see him go were we?
I won't go too deeply into the investment lark except to say that selling the club lock, stock and barrel may not have been an option so far but surely there are a few smaller investors willing to pump in £10-15m each in return for a place on the board and a vote in the club's future, I've heard this has been the case in the past but all approaches have been rebuffed, train set and all that.
So stop blaming Moyes for the lack of signings, there are other things he can be rightly criticised for, when the facts are pretty obvious, our 'top' targets have to cost well under £5m. We never bid for Barton, wasn't it convenient for BK that his character could be blamed, and justified, for that? Koumas goes to the super power that is Wigan for a massive £5.3m. Both these players were supposed to be amongst our top targets and both reportedly had EFC as their first choice destination. Baines has been priced at £6m and now Keane is bidding £5m for Richardson so that's another two targets going west.
For those who say that any of these players isn't worth £5m then tell me what price you would expect to pay for a player who was a key part of the selling team, Richardson excepted, and, although not exceptional, capable of doing a decent job in the PL?
This is 2007 and average players cost more money because clubs have more to spend and, unlike EFC, if they feel that player is a must for their progression they will pay the price, end of, so stop apologising for the club's (BK's) lack of ambition because you don't think player A is worth a measly, by today's standards,£5m.
Last season we needed 3 or 4 players to bring the squad up to a decent level, we have 'lost' four since January and brought one in which, in my reckoning, means we still need at least 5 or 6.
If we can't pay the price for the 'better' of the available above average players then I may as well get my boots out of the loft 'cos they'll be scraping pretty close to my standard very soon.
I will now do a Tony Marsh and be a Prophet of Doom: Unless BK pulls a rabbit out of the hat and we sign Fernandes and a few other top players before the season starts here is my prediction for next season.
Small squad, barring a miracle, will most likely mean we struggle in Europe and in the league, Moyes will take a good look at the situation and as an ambitious man will say 'Tell you what Bill, I've worked my socks off for six years, never complained about the lack of money to spend, had shit from the fans, taken the team into Europe twice and on both occasions you've failed to take a gamble and back me to make a decent fist of it. Well Bill, time has come for me to prove what I can do with more support and an ambitious club, like Wigan. See ya.'
Mik and Timmy will realise that the club is going forward far too slowly for them as they would like to be in Europe every year and start putting a few medals in the cabinet and, new contract or not, they can't see the club's ambition matching theirs. See ya.
Is Kirkby alrady having an adverse effect on the club? Kirkby's going to cost us something, (£30-50m?), is Bill being so short sighted that he is starting to save now to the detriment of the team? Surely not!!
Get out or sell some of your control before the club slides back into oblivion, Kenwright.
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1 Posted 12/07/2007 at 13:29:23
If Moyes was really concerned he would undoubtedly push Kenwright for extra money.
All the doom and gloom people are predicting a bad season but until that actually happens I don’t think its worth shouting about. Remember the same people were shouting doom and gloom this time last season and we finished in a Euro place.
Have some faith in Moyes. He is a very determined man and wouldn’t do anything to hurt Everton or his reputation as a good manager.
Moyes is working with his squad as we speak, he is well aware of the situation he is facing. Aruging that Everton could struggle and crash in Europe is pointless because it may not happen.
Lets wait and see how Everton do and then if the worst-case scenario does happen, then we can claim Moyes made mistakes.
2 Posted 13/07/2007 at 05:02:43
To me the fundamental issue for all Evertonians is Bill Kenwright’s continuing inability to adequately fund the business that is Everton FC and his stubborn refusal to genuinely encourage investment in our club. We could also add to this his apparent inability to provide straight answers to direct questions. Then add to this the negative impact his well-documented intransigence and stubborness is having on prospective investors, and we have a clearer perspective of the very real damage Kenwright is doing to the club we all hold so dear.
This summer, we have been overtaken by another seven Premier League clubs in terms of funding. The attraction that David Moyes had hoped our qualification for Europe would present and help bring in quality players has been replaced by the view that we are a club without ambition despite the efforts of the Manager and that we are quickly becoming a financial ?also-ran?. This view is down to the efforts of Messrs Kenwright and his off-sider, Keith Wyness.
After the fiasco that was the Fortress Funds affair, and in an endeavour to understand why he "got away with" that little sideshow, I asked business associates in the UK who specialise in the higher end of the commercial sector if they could explain from a market perspective the real reasons why a football club with the history, standing and global support of Everton could not raise adequate investment funds from credible sources despite the Chairman’s claims that "we are working very hard 24/7 to bring in new investment".
The responses I got were that the Club had little credibility amongst serious investors, apparently because of the severe limitations placed on investors by the Club’s Board (such as it is) and the perception that Mr Kenwright didn’t really want to play ball and was only trying to placate disaffected Evertonians.
It seems to me that the only way this situation can be rectified and we do not experience this farcical situation again next year (and quite possibly lose key players and a competent manager because of it) is by removing Mr Kenwright and his cronies from the club.
In my view, the situation with our Club is as serious as that and requires this action.
And the only way that is going to happen is if the supporter base organises and constructively puts pressure on Mr Kenwright to depart this club through activities such as organised demonstrations, or by demanding detailed written answers from him in public forums to critical questions regarding funding and then publicly and legally holding him accountable for his answers. This would send him a very clear message that he could not ignore or hide from.
3 Posted 13/07/2007 at 08:20:27
4 Posted 13/07/2007 at 08:43:37
I am as concerned as the next man that we appear to be left behind but do you want someone who might leave us in the same situation as agent Johnson? I certainly don?t.
Until the season kicks off and we?ve played a few matches we won?t know what the impact of other teams? overspending will be. If come Christmas and we?re in the bottom half that?s the time to start worrying not when a ball has not been kicked in anger.
Just get behind the team from Augist until May. Support the players that are there not the ones who might have been.
5 Posted 13/07/2007 at 08:58:03
6 Posted 13/07/2007 at 08:49:44
7 Posted 13/07/2007 at 09:11:09
Moyes isn?t satisfied that the squad, currently smaller than last season, is good enough as you suggest. He states on the official website that he wants to bring in more players to ?give ourselves a chance?. He has also publicly stated, the obvious, that the squad was very stretched at times last season, and we basically only had the league to worry about.
So, overall, I do trust Moyes but even he has doubts and because he hasn?t publicly demanded more money, (well it?s not his style is it?), doesn?t mean he hasn?t asked or doesn?t believe he?s done enough to warrant more backing.
So you wait and see for the umpteenth time/year and I?ll start getting on Kenwright?s case big time because I don?t want to ?wait and see? and say ?told you so? because it?ll mean our club has taken a massive step backwards on the playing front.
Steve L asks for facts, well in these situations enquiries are normally made by a third party on behalf of potential investors who would check out the response before proceeding so if they are totally blanked you are unlikely to have the potential investor kicking off publicly about it.
Besides ?rumours? from people I know who worked in the club for a long time I would take you back to the power struggle involving Gregg and Kenwright. Gregg stated categorically that Kenwright was blocking investment and not letting the club develop. All of sudden the con that was Fortress was unveiled, the less said of that the better.
Gregg was character assassinated because he didn?t go to games and wasn?t a Blue so most people fell in line behind ?True Blue? BK. I don?t recall BK challenging the accusations, threatening libel action etc.
Incidentally Gregg was accused of only being interested in EFC because of the King?s Dock, strange that as he is now linked with buying Sheff Utd who have no such option.
8 Posted 13/07/2007 at 09:03:16
9 Posted 13/07/2007 at 10:04:38
Viva la revolution!
10 Posted 13/07/2007 at 10:00:26
Isn’t that a bit like saying; "Don’t worry about learning to swim until after you’ve hit the iceberg"? I’m as concerned as any supporter and it is essential BK and the board are aware rather than allowing them to go on thinking there will be no acountability. I don’t want to be one of the people saying; "I wish I’d told you so." That would make me as guilty as them for allowing continued lack of investment.
11 Posted 13/07/2007 at 10:37:39
Bill holds the purse strings and Moyes can’t spend money we haven’t got, the transfer market is crazy (see Koumas), but it is beginning to look as though we just don’t have the funds. My only criticism of Moyes in this resepct is that he’s not shopped abroad this time, but I think the Koldrup saga has put him off for life and we just don’t have the depth of knowledge of foriegn players to make a signing.
All that said, it would be nice if the club could attract new investment and I’m puzzled at what is going on in EFC, Robert Earl, Phillip Green et al. I think we have a Chairman who is a genuine supporter (and there aren’t many premiership clubs who can say that), but doesn’t have the means to raise the money. The big question is what do we really want, an Evertonian running the club or a moneybags with a hidden agenda?
12 Posted 13/07/2007 at 10:58:25
5.3M is too much for Koumas - a player that we dont even need. Barton would disrupt the team spirit. Oh and Nugent is overhyped and a bottom half of the PL player at best.
Wake up and stop moaning - the players being thrown around for extortionate transfer fee’s at the moment are average at best and represent a short term investment, where we require genuine quality plays to relegate th likes of Osman and co. to the ranks of squad players.
And last time I checked Pisto, Wright and Nace had about three starts between the lot of them - big loss.
13 Posted 13/07/2007 at 11:30:17
14 Posted 13/07/2007 at 11:14:48
15 Posted 13/07/2007 at 11:30:35
Everybody realises, including the manager, that the squad is too small, Moyes said that being in Europe again would be the catalyst to attract quality players to GP, BK obviously didn?t tell him the true situation. We need numbers and at least two of those numbers should be quality but if we can?t even afford the average to above average players who would make up those numbers then where do we go from there? ?Wait and see? until the end of next season when BK spends the following year?s money on a quality player, or maybe he could spend the money brought in from the quality players who decide enough is enough?
Kenwright should be working 24/7, while he?s doing nothing else, to make sure he can support his manager and allow him to at least bid for some quality if not numbers.
16 Posted 13/07/2007 at 11:44:20
Kenwright did indeed inherit a debt, but weren?t we all told this was offset against season ticket sales for twenty years or so? ?Ring-fenced? if you will. Season ticket sales which amount to around £10 million a season, by the way.
Kenwright hasn?t got the resources for Everton to compete. Over the road, David Moores begrudgingly relinquished control of Liverpool because even with their spending power, they could not compete. Everton could not compete with Liverpool under their previous regime, what hope have we got now? Kenwright has to allow investors. I don?t buy into this ?second team syndrome? nonesense. Everton is a world-famous football club with a massive supporter base and a proven pedigree of winning trophies, in a city undergoing massive regeneration and continental acclaim. As it stands we are one of a handful of clubs apparently unnattractive to potential suitors. They?re pulling our leg, surely?
17 Posted 13/07/2007 at 12:24:40
18 Posted 13/07/2007 at 12:49:34
Its that simple.
Let me see, on the field he is unable to fund for players that will significantly improve Everton as a team. So the future looks bleak to say the least, especially when those around us continue to improve.
Taking Everton FC out of the city of Liverpool shows he has absoloutly no regard for the history of Everton football club. So only is he robbing is of our past, he is not providing a future for Everton F.C.
So when we talk about foreign investors coming in and having ?hidden agendas?, you have to ask yourself could any agenda be worse than what is currently happening??
And anyway since when did Everton Football Club become a fascist regime under the control of one man. The People's Club??? hmmm
19 Posted 13/07/2007 at 12:53:11
My big fear is that as Steve McBride says Moyes (who I think we all have an increasing high regard for)looses patience and decides that his next challenge should be spending a rich man?s millions and leaves quickly followed by our best playing assets.
Its a difficult call - I am greatful for the period of relative stability that BK has brought to the club and for the fact that we have controlled our debt and taken a step forward and that we have done it without selling our soul. My heart says that it would be amazing to achieve success under the current regime but my head says that we have reached the point where they can take us no further and we need fresh blood and investment to move to the next level - but don?t ask me how or where that will come from.
20 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:02:20
Michael Chopra £5 million? Bent £16?
We have a good squad that last season finished sixth despite some key players being out. If average squad players like Koumas & Nugent are going for such high figures I think it?s better to stay out of the market.
21 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:11:13
22 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:28:05
23 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:52:13
Speaking to another blue today he made a comparison between BK and Swales at City, not enough money to do the job but not willing to step aside.
This is not knee jerk, I really hope that we go on and have another good season, but that will be down to DM if we do, not BK and how long before understandable ambition robs us of DM, Joey, Arteta etc? No matter how overpriced we have to compete were in the premier league, otherwise there are plenty of other clubs waiting to take our place. If we are this hard up now and still carrying the debt then something is very wrong at the top.
Its time for change!
24 Posted 14/07/2007 at 05:15:53
Sorry but I am just a little bit upset right now with our lack of activity. We just seem to show no ambition to improve.
25 Posted 14/07/2007 at 09:40:32
26 Posted 15/07/2007 at 03:08:52
In the January transfer window DM told us he was keeping the transfer kitty for the summer to add more spending power,obviously another lie comming from GP,and now we hear that the cost of players is to high....if a player we want costs 5m then thats what it costs, i am sure DM would not moan about paying that sort of money if he had 50m to spend, i am just sick of the amateur way our beloved club is being run...BK either stump up or get of the pot!
27 Posted 16/07/2007 at 15:29:29
But I doubt that will happen, so for the foreseable future, there isnt any white knight other than the club managers as they stand. we are doing ok operating as we are. If Bill wants to put away money to secure the stadium, well good on him. That for me is sound business planning which in the long term will make this club great again. There is no short term fix for Everton we will walk the road but triumph ijn the end, of that I am sure.
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