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Everton v Spurs, February 1983
Did anyone watch last night's Big Match re-visited? What a trip down memory lane. One of the featured games was Everton V Spurs in the cup in February 1983. It was a game I just don't remember so I was in the bizarre situation of urging Everton to victory in a match played 29 years ago.
Hard tackles, no diving, no yellow cards (players had their names taken) no step-overs and the joy of watching an Everton team who were on the verge of greatness. Everton won 2-0 with goals from King and Sharpe and outplayed what seemed like a good Spurs side. We looked a couple of players away from something special and of course we got them.
The point of this post, however is to ask a question. In goal that day was Jim Arnold, the captain was Mark Higgins. I just have no recollection of this. They just don't spring to mind when I reflect on that wonderful time. What became of them?
Andy Crooks, Posted 15/07/2012 at 11:45:15
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126 Posted 15/07/2012 at 15:17:13
ps: Sharp's goal was onside!
128 Posted 15/07/2012 at 15:15:38
There was quite a bit of hype around this game as it was the first time in 3 years that Spurs had lost an FA Cup game outside of London. We played Man Utd in the quarterfinals in the next game & put up one hell of a performance before losing late on to a Frank Stapleton winner. Kendall identified that game in his autobiography as the game that told him he was on the right track.
Mark Higgins was a classy centre-back & captain who picked up a bad pelvic injury in the autumn of 83, I think it was a League Cup game against West Ham. He never played for Everton again & missed out on the best period in the clubs history. His misfortune gave Derek Mountfield his big break.
Kevin Ratcliffe rated him alongside Dave Watson as his best partner & there were rumours that Bobby Robson had considered him for an England cap on a tour of Australia in 1983. I went to his testimonial at Goodison in Oct/Nov 1984 where a combined Liverpool/Everton team took on a combined Manchester City/Utd team. He attempted a comeback with Man Utd in 1986 but wasn't that successful; I think he later played for Stoke & then Bury.
Jim Arnold followed Kendall from Blackburn in 1981, he probably had his best game for us in the FA Cup quarterfinal against Utd mentioned above. He got back in the team in the November 82 after Nev was dropped after the 5-0 defeat against the Shite. I think he left for Wolves in 1984 after Nev had established himself as the Number One at Everton, & arguably in the world.
130 Posted 15/07/2012 at 15:42:26
The game itself was a great day and we got Man Utd away in the next round with about 20.000 Blues making the short trip to Old Trafford. After missing a good few chances, Stapleton scored a fluke of a goal in the 95th minute. We still wonder where the referee got all the injury time but there you go. It's called being an Evertonian.
Jim Arnold was a decent keeper and when Big Nev got his chance, there was only one outcome.
Incidently, I was watching one of these programmes the other week, maybe the same season and we'd just moved into 5th place after a home win against Notts County with a crowd of just over 14.000 watching.
131 Posted 15/07/2012 at 15:53:35
Regarding Higgins and Arnold, both were replaced with better players... :-)
143 Posted 15/07/2012 at 18:26:10
A very young Jim Rosenthal co-anchoring as well!!
157 Posted 15/07/2012 at 19:20:39
King's best time was in the 70s. He left us for QPR and then came back a few years later.
160 Posted 15/07/2012 at 19:26:11
173 Posted 15/07/2012 at 20:30:19
174 Posted 15/07/2012 at 20:42:43
That was proper 90 mile an hour football. Players get the ball and leggit, players without the ball leggit with them, defenders tackle hard, and hardly anyone winges. Loved every second of it.
...and the wife liked Inchy's shorts.
186 Posted 15/07/2012 at 22:17:18
I too was in the Street End. It was the first game I'd been to alone without dad; it was coming up to my 13th birthday. Quite a stretch remembering, though I do recall rating Arnold if not quite my first goalie idol – Dai Davies – when I was about five.
I also remember we won 2-0, great atmosphere, except I was not a fan of the booing of Spuds' Argie player, Ricky Villa (the Falklands war was less than a year gone), and that I thought "We're the first to beat Spurs in the Cup for three years: it's ours! C'mon!"
I can't remember if I watched TV or listened to the radio, but we battered Utd at mudbath OT (what a shocking pitch they had) in the quarter final, only for them to counter-attack in injury-time and score the only goal of the game.
Inchy became my biggest idol. The sod who clattered him about 18 months later should rot; what a classy player was Inchy.
188 Posted 15/07/2012 at 22:19:12
206 Posted 16/07/2012 at 04:30:07
I also enjoyed the other games although Watford should have been 3 or 4 up before Villa took over and stuck 4 past them. The best moment for me, in light of all the phoney injury feigning and winging nowadays, was a player who had his head split open by an elbow. He didn't even get a free kick, his bonce was pouring blood and after a cursory inspection by the ref, he got up and played on!! Luis Suarez, take note.
231 Posted 16/07/2012 at 09:25:33
I travelled up from university to watch the game, and if I remember correctly, on the Sunday, to complete the weekend, the RS were beaten by Brighton at Anfield (with "Shithouse" Case scoring for the Seagulls)
It sticks in my mind, because in my excitement at the commentary, I managed to write off my Dad's car, losing it on a bend, on Speke Hall Avenue.
I got on the train back to uni PDQ!
260 Posted 16/07/2012 at 12:50:06
391 Posted 17/07/2012 at 08:31:38
491 Posted 17/07/2012 at 22:22:58
Talking of centre backs of that time, who remembers the headline on the back page of The Echo: "You're too Fat Skipper" when Kendall dropped Billy Wright for being a porker?
492 Posted 17/07/2012 at 22:38:19
523 Posted 18/07/2012 at 08:42:04
584 Posted 18/07/2012 at 18:54:36
585 Posted 18/07/2012 at 19:00:37
Great thing about Toffeeweb is how one specific post can fire the emotions & memories of fellow blues. We started this thread with a specific match & individual memories or opinions have followed.
Mark Higgins was made Captain of Everton due to Billy Wright failing a 'fatness' test in 82-83. According to Kendall, he was weighed as part of a normal fitness regime & told to lose weight over a certain period when he would be weighed again. However, when he weighed in heavier than before, Kendall stripped him of the captaincy & handed it to Higgins.
He would hand over the black arm band to Kevin Ratcliffe following his injury in the Autumn of 1983. Billy claimed to have been for a particularly big meal the night before he was weighed. When Kendall explained his problem to Tommy Docherty, the Doc said..'What did he order??.. Lead?
I think Billy Wright left on a free transfer to Brum in 1983.
970 Posted 21/07/2012 at 12:09:09
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125 Posted 15/07/2012 at 15:22:17
As for Jim Arnold, I believe a young lad called Southall eventually pinched the gloves off him and went on to become one of the best there ever was between the sticks.
:-)