An end to Everton's right-back saga? Spence, White, and Doue named as summer shortlist

100% no to Ben White: he spends most of his time on the treatment table and also not a natural right back as he started as a centre-back. Doue would be first choice with either Spence or Wan-Bissaka an upgrade on what we have.

Wan-Bissaka and Spence together could work as Spence can play both full-back positions. I'd prefer to be starting the season with 2 extra full-backs...

Rico Lewis all day long. Young( only 21 I think) quick with bags of PL experience. City are willing to let him go.

The cost is the issue.

Ben White fee plus his £150k per week are a problem. A loan may be a solution.

Doue is likely to be near £50M, and is more likely to go to a club like city than us.

Wan Bissaka fee has risen from £10M to £15M, to £20-25M plus his £90k a week wages. Does that represent a good signing for a lad that was benched towards the end of the season?

Spence is quick, young, can play left back or right back, but doesn't provide goals or assists. He certainly doesn't complement Mykolenko.

Rico Lewis looks a good bet, but Man City aren't selling until a replacement is found.

It is a seller's market. Much of the Top 6 are looking for new full-backs to start or as back-up. Rico Lewis may well fancy a Villa etc ahead of us. I can understand that this isn't easy compared to George or Hackney.

Out of that lot, Wan-Bissaka.

Spence is an upgrade on Mykolenko but not sure Spurs will be letting him go for cheap.

No to Spence, not certain defensively and brings nothing going forward. White is an absolute no.

Doué would be best. Wan-Bissaka has done well at the World Cup.

I think it's extremely harsh to hold a right-footed defensive player to account for poor productivity in the advanced position when playing on the left flank in a side that struggled for most of the season.

I think Spence is a decent player and Wan-Bissaka is more limited, although I can't say I watched tons of their games. Doue I've seen even less of.

Ben White is probably the one I've seen most often the last few years or so, but most of the time, he has seemed pretty ordinary to me.

I think Wan-Bissaka is the only realistic shout amongst those.

We will probably have to look somewhere else abroad.

It would be a huge statement of intent if we were to just pay the £40M for Doue. At that point, I think you could argue the transfer window was a success even if nothing else happened, or if we only added 1 or 2 loans for depth and competition.

Sure, we'd all like to see another left-back, striker or even centre-back, but if we kept Ndiaye, Aznou steps up, and we sell one or more of McNeil, Iroebugnam, Alcaraz or Patterson — and replace them as needed with loans — we'd be looking a lot better this season.

You can't fix everything in this window, still a couple more windows to go with our current budget.

Ben White is bang average, an overpriced player. Best is Doue. However, he will be out of our reach.

Spence and Wan-Bissaka are both okay as players and certainly better than the right-back we have -- and O'Brien -- both defensively and in attack.

Can't see us getting involved in and winning an auction for Doue at the numbers being talked about.

Out of the players mentioned, Rico Lewis would be my choice but will Man City let him go? And if they did, there's bound to be stiff competition for his signature.

So, of the others, it is likely to come down to Spence or Wan-Bissaka, neither top drawer right-backs but needs must.

People seem to think releasing O'Brien to play centre-back along side Branthwaite will solve a lot of our central defensive problems but I'm not convinced by him. We really need Branthwaite to stay fit or we are in deep trouble in the centre of defence.

I wouldn't pay good money for Ben White and big wages. There's better value than him out there.

Personally, none of these are particularly attractive. We need full backs who can overlap and put crosses in, especially when we have 'inverted wingers'. Neither Spence nor Wan-Bissaka are adept at doing that, their pace often getting them out of trouble at the back rather than causing problems for other teams up front.

White looks like another injury problem. I may take on loan with an option if no one else but realistically it is another centre-back playing right-back.

Doue too expensive, rumours we've offered £25m for Spence, and after their outlay, they'll want more.

Wan-Bissaka is probably a better defender and cheaper, but I'd take either, because they're a lot better than what we have.

I seem to see a different player to a lot of people when I see Spence; I'd love us to sign him.

Ben White isn't even a right-back. He's a centre-back who got squeezed wider by better players.

Wan-Bissaka is good, but not worth £25m at his age.

We also need two, or we'll soon end up with O'Brien there again.

Mind you, there's a decent right-back in the Scotland squad... I wonder who he plays for?

Wan-Bissaka please.

In the World Cup match vs Portugal, he pretty much shut them down on his side.

I agree with Si @6.

Spence would be a good signing, harsh judging him on how he played out of position in that awful Spurs side last season. More recovery pace than any defender we have, which would be an asset if Tarkowski or Keane are on the pitch. Right-back or cover for left-back. I'd take him over the others.

I don't think you are getting a decent full-back for £15-20M. The days are gone of picking them up cheaper, they can be as vital as wingers now, which shows in our wide play for years.

Two good pacey full-backs wouldn't just help our defence, it would give our attack another dimension. So £30-40M for a young England full-back with loads of potential isn't too bad, I think!

For all his athleticism, Spence has shown at the World Cup that he is a defensive disaster, constantly out of position and scrambling to get to where he belongs. Tuchel benched him and replaced him with Quansah (which didn't work out very well) for the same reason Conte benched him at Spurs. He wasn't getting the job done.

Spence would need intensive study at right-back at Moyes University, the institution that graduated Seamus Coleman so many years ago.

Wan Bissaka is our best, bet as the player has premier league experience, he also a very good player and at a very good price compared with others that may be out of reach. There is also a possibility that should McNeil go to West Ham that a deal could be even more lucrative.

I think its becoming more likely that a right back will be our next signing and it cannot be sorted soon enough !

The reason we don't score a lot of goals I'd because we do not have full backs that put the ball in or overlap to create space for those that can. I don't understand anyone saying Wan Bissaka or Spence is the answer to our problems.

Everton have been looking for a right back for years and the best they can come up with is Ben White & Djed Spence (although Doue could be a decent option). Djed Spence? He's shite! Panama caused him all kinds of problems. Panama! Ben White is injury prone who's best years are behind him, despite behind 28.

I doubt that Djed Spence, Wan Bissaka and Ben White are huge upgrades on Patterson. Although Patterson must leave because Moyes clearly does not rate him. Doue is interesting although he would be hoping that bigger clubs than Everton come in for him.

I wouldn't mind if Everton were to do a swap deal with West Ham - McNeil + Patterson in exchange for Taty Castellanos and Wan Bissaka. Plus some cash of course. Or sell McNeil and Patterson for about 20 million combined and bid 40 million for Doue. Now that would be a statement of intent by TFG.

Is there any right back out there we would like?

Jamie Clancy, Spence only played 25 mins against Panama, came on after we were 2 up and got a higher game stat than Quansah.

Love to know what the "all kinds of problems" were when Panama only had 2 shots on target all game.

I'm sure, just like us, the club can list a hundred names including the likes of Hakimi but... it's about A/ the price tag. B/ the wages & C/ they want European football.

This is not a time warp, a world where quality similar to Leighton Baines is available for £6m. He'd cost £50m & £150k a week in todays market and sadly we don't have that kind of money.

We needed a right back even when Hibbo was playing.

Deffo no to Ben White, not at £150k a week & a magic ink sicknote.

For me both Doué & Spence are similar, both prefer to attack than defend.

Out of the names being touted Spence is the one who fits the profile of our marketplace age, cost, wage.

Wan Bissaka will probably prefer Arsenal anyway. Status, no moving upheaval, kids (if any?) in the same schools, European football plus a probable bump in wages too. I know where I'd be going given half the chance.

To be honest it's rock & a hard place... discover a decent overseas full/wing back who has a good 12 -18 months & without Euro football & the £/$/€ signs flashing in front of both the player & the club's eyes he'd be gone.

The Hungarian Kerkez is a fine example, signed for Alkmaar for £2.5m. A year later sold to Bournemouth for £12m, a year after that sold to the RS for £40m.
Two years ago he was on £1,000 a week in Holland which is less than an average Championship player. Bournemouth paid him £30,000 a week, their biggest earner, and now the RS give him £75,000 a week.
A £74,000 a week pay rise in just two years.

That's the reality of the modern footballer. It's all about the money, none of them give a crap about the likes of you & me. They'll milk a crowd dry & kiss the badge then move on to the next one. It's been like that since the days of THAT Judas BARMBY.

Iain (22), while I agree with most of your comments, except:

" .... where quality similar to Leighton Baines is available for £6m. He'd cost £50m & £150k a week in today's market .....".

I doubt that Everton would pay 50 m and 150K for any player from Wigan (or any Championship team), however good that talent may be. We just signed the Championship player of the season for 18.5 million, and I am sure that he is nowhere close to 150K/ week.

Ben Shite is a centre half. Typical Moyes player.
He also refused to play for his country.
His tattoos are awful and he baths in tango. Fuck that.
No thanks.

Are there no promising right backs in the championship?
Cheaper option than any of the above (bar Ben Shite).
No guarantee the other 2 would even want to join or their clubs let them go (Spurs).

Bellenova is a right wing back and has been linked. Italians have a so so record in settling.

Some greats for sure, but plenty of flops.

Ian,
Wing back to me suggests half a winger half a full back.
I don't think Moyes will play one of them at right back in a back four mate.
I hoped he would give it a go last season, imo Patterson would be a better wing back than full back.

Ajay, what I disagree with is

"We needed a right back even when Hibbo was playing."

We actually needed a right winger when Hibbo was playing.