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Once the infamous Real Madrid board give Jose Mourinho the mutually agreed option of departure having had Barcelona hand their ass on a plate this season, what would be the odds for Mourinho choosing a post-Moyes Everton for his next Premier League destination?

For anyone else the challenge of replacing Alex Ferguson would be a poisoned chalice, for the Special One the ultimate placation of his ego. But that will not be this summer. Everton with its small but effective number of star players would be a perfect make weight before the culmination of his domestic management at Old Trafford.

Without the recent history that demands the successes or expectations of his previous clubs, Mourinho would have, like FC Porto, a vehicle to further his myth and legend where any improvement on the club’s current place in the world of football would be heartily appreciated. And in all honesty a club very easy to leave behind once the call comes from down the East Lancs Road.

Forging his reputation at FC Porto without the large sums of cash to which he is now accustomed, the Everton transfer kitty too would showcase his budgetary responsibilities that Manchester Utd would comparatively require compared to the rise of billionaire owned clubs around Europe and the predicted power shift to the Bundesliga…

Of course this is idle and preposterous speculation about a season that is yet to be. But Everton compete in a sport in which recently a BBC reporter described as perennially shrouded in a stale hysteria. How very true. Every time the team takes to the pitch, it is for what? To enliven our midweek for next season, hopefully. But there’s always a waiting for next season, a next season that never comes.

So if the thought of the greatest manager for a generation sitting next to Steve Round is at best spurious, forgive me because there’s nothing positive right now about Everton. But the smaller club allure would be just the right kind of project until the times comes for Ferguson to put his feet up.

Nick Entwistle, London     Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:28:05

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Ian Allaker
959 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:39:34
Would never happen, Mourinho is clever enough to know that without the money to compete with the big boys he would be doomed. He would do no better than Moyes.
Patrick Murphy
962 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:38:13
Only if he guarantees to keep Steve Round, Nick!

It's a nice dream to have that he would consider Goodison as his next project, but I fear it would be too much of a gamble even for the self-proclaimed special one.
But you make a good point about the special one maybe having to wait for the right English job to become available, but when he leaves Madrid he will probably move on to Germany and then hope to go to Manchester or Chelsea.

Tony Marsh
963 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:39:39
Ha Ha... has to be a wind-up, right? You can not possibly think that the greatest football manager on the planet would put up with Bill Kenwright pulling rugs from under feet and his slight of hand tricks as regards to transfer cash. Jose has to be in the spotlight also so a club like Everton is a definite No No as we are not even under a torch light...

Stop messing about, Nick, FFS.

Anthony Hughes
965 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:42:09
The likes of Mourinho are a world away from what we could offer him. It would be fantastic to have him here even if just for the hightened media profile across the world we would have. Unfortunately we couldn't meet any of the criteria he would demand, Champions League football, a vast transfer pot and probably the best part of 200K a week.
Brian Waring
969 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:53:21
Mourinho is a shoe - in cert for the Man city job at the end of the season IMO.
Richard Reeves
974 Posted 13/02/2013 at 14:44:02
I've seen rumours that he might be interested in the RS but it doesn't make sense. I remember something in an interview where he said he wouldn't ever manage the RS but wouldn't give his reasons and he has mentioned what a great club Everton are and how the atmosphere at Goodison is electric.

Who knows what goes on inside his mind? Maybe he would relish the chance of turning a once great club back into championship contenders on a shoestring budget, that would probably be more satisfying than doing it with hundreds of millions.

I don't think it will happen but I couldn't rule it out as I don't really understand the man. Imagine if he did come to Everton; for once, I would have to say Kenwright has got something right and that business of the last transfer window would be forgiven for me... but that would be the only thing I could forgive Kenwright and the board for if this came true.

Robin Cannon
976 Posted 13/02/2013 at 15:02:39
"preposterous"

...this is the most realistic word used in the article...

Dennis Shaw
007 Posted 13/02/2013 at 16:02:57
So that's what 'fantasy football' really means. When Moyes does go and I for one hope it will be this season there are a host of names who I feel would fill the void and do a much better job with out excusing the BS Bill comes up with and without backing him.

I do fear that with Bills money and ambition we are more likely to target someone like McClaren or Big Sam.

Andrew Ellams
011 Posted 13/02/2013 at 16:16:45
My first choice to replace Moyes would be Matinez but I have a horrible feeling in my gut about Mark Hughes.
Paul English
016 Posted 13/02/2013 at 16:31:22
MIchael Laudrup with Duncan Ferguson as is assistant... Bring it on!
Brian Harrison
026 Posted 13/02/2013 at 16:57:28
Nick Entwistle

I can see Jose walking out in front of the massed blue fans adoring every step the great man takes, Jose waving to these fans who adore him.

Sadly its the massed blue fans of Chelsea next season. He will take over from Benitez who in turn will replace Rodgers.

Nick Entwistle
028 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:10:00
If its history repeating Brian, at least we'll have another 4th place. Bring it on.
Liam Reilly
030 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:05:57
Would be a Brian Clough at Leeds - he wouldn't want many of the players at the club and the ones he'd want, wouldn't come for the cash or for the challenge for the Europa Leage places. Woudn't last a month with BK.

Anyway, forget Jose, its goin to be Phillip Neville - Player Manager. Sweet Jesus.

Andy Burke
031 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:16:15
Ha! I wish.

Nice thought for a minute though I am not convinced he would be able to do any better than Moyes given budget restrictions.

Would love him as EFC manager though.

I agree with others that it is either Chelsea or City for him.

Dennis Shaw
034 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:23:34
Andrew (#011) — we can never accept Mark Hughes after the way he belittled us with the whole Lescott business.
Steavey Buckley
038 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:29:27
No chance. Anyway, he would want at least J6 million a year to manage Everton without any real prospect of improving the blues results.
Dave Lynch
039 Posted 13/02/2013 at 17:21:59
I keep reading about possible replacements for Moyes but why would Martinez, Laudrup or any other manager with aspirations come to us?They are at decent clubs and know where they stand regards cash for signings etc.

What could Kenwright offer? Better wages probably but let's face it they have probably like Moyes earned enough to be able to retire anyway.

Come to Everton, for what? Having to sell your best players to balance the club's books, no transfer kitty to enable you to build a team competitive enough to challenge for honours. Bill will never get another as loyal as Moyes and I think he's had enough now of the false promises.

Stephen Doyle
085 Posted 13/02/2013 at 19:36:48
Would be totally unbelievable if he was our manager, who can forget the 'sshhh' gesture towards the RS fans in that final! Unfortunately like everyone has said it's a pipe dream and will probably end up at City, whilst we will opt for the likes of Martinez or Laudrup (or worse).
Tony McNulty
090 Posted 13/02/2013 at 20:47:25
Well he has just sat on his own for quite a while at half time against the Manure. He's obviously been watching Big Nev and getting calibrated as to the Goodison Way.
Kieran Fitzgerald
091 Posted 13/02/2013 at 20:34:00
I think you have to look at who is realistically available. In terms of managers who are out of work Mark Hughes is going to be an obvious shout as he would be relatively high profile and would be seen to have a very current knowledge of the game. The City gig aside, he has been at clubs without a huge amount of money to spend and has never had any serious negativity surrounding him.

Roy Keane would also be something of an obvious choice as another who is out of work and available. He would also be keen to prove himself again at the top level. He would be cheap and would also have a very high profile within the game. While being known as a disciplinarian like Moyes would stand to him, you would have to wonder if he could ever mellow enough to work with players from a manager's point of view.

Dave Whelan, the chairman at Wigan has always said that he would not stand in Martinez' way. What he would cost in terms of compensation to Wigan may be a stumbling block though.

Just for a laugh, I would just like to also mention Phil Brown. No wait, that's just horrible.

Sean Patton
094 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:01:04
Nick

As nobody has yet answered your question I will give you odds of 1,000,000,000/1 special Evertonian rate, don't worry about the possible payout because Bill has given me his word that he will sub me the readies.

Kieran Fitzgerald
098 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:14:28
We can just get another mortgage out Sean. What's one more.
Dominic Bobadilla
099 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:11:38
Kieran, it was not just at Man City that Mark Hughes made a mess. He had money to spend at QPR as well; look what he did to the club. Roy Keane is another liability.
So, no thank you.
Tony McNulty
106 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:28:38
Behave yourselves. The money's ringfenced.
Dominic Bobadilla
108 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:26:11
Why is no one mentioning Paolo Di Canio? A team of Di Canio and Duncan is definitely something I would find exciting.
Kieran Fitzgerald
110 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:35:05
Dominic, I don't think Hughes was given the proper time at QPR. I think the chairman panicked after the amount of money spent in the summer.

I would agree with you on Di Canio. I don't think he's the fool that he plays at all.

Jon Ferguson
111 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:36:14
I was considering the post Moyes era, thinking it may be alright, £50 mil from the sales of Felli and Baines plus the new tv money giving a new manager like Martinez, Laudrup or Di Canio a chance to stamp their influence.

Suddenly people are talking about Hughes and Keane and I'm again hoping Moyes signs a new contract.

Mike Allison
112 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:52:11
"forgive me because there’s nothing positive right now about Everton"

Really? Christ, and I thought Tony Marsh was negative.

"Mark Hughes is going to be an obvious shout..." If you're an idiot.

"Roy Keane would also be something of an obvious choice..." If you're totally fucking mentally ill.

I'm bored and off to bed, but three examples of why I don't post much any more. Too much absolute gibberish on this site to be worth getting involved in most conversations.

John Ford
116 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:47:07
If Moyes has gone as far as he can with us, which is perpetually just below the money clubs, then it's unlikely that many other managers would do as well. What we're hoping for is someone to break the mould of clubs hitting the glass ceiling.

De Canio may be worth a wild punt. This is on the basis that I can't see anyone with premier experience exceeding what Moyes has done, they've all flattered and flopped eventually. So why not go a bit leftfield.

Sam Hoare
117 Posted 13/02/2013 at 21:58:03
If its this summer, then for me Laudrup is first choice and then Martinez and Clarke. Other options might be Poyet and/or Di Matteo?

Please god not Roy Keane or Mark Hughes.

Ian Bennett
120 Posted 13/02/2013 at 22:10:53
Dave 039 - if you offer them £3.5m a season they'll come, don't worry about that.
James Robb
153 Posted 14/02/2013 at 02:27:53
The stature of the club wouldn't be the issue for him. He's on record as saying he persuaded Nuno Valente to sign for us too but obviously Mourinho would require money and lots of it. However, I really don't think such a move is pie in the sky like people claim.

The man is all about winning and coming to us would, unfortunately, be a mere transitional phase in which he demonstrates just how special he is before departing. It would never happen though because this board lacks the guts to even approach someone of his standing. Here's a bit of evidence to back this up;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Real-Madrid-boss-Jose-Mourinho-exclusive-I-d-NEVER-manage-Liverpool-but-would-boss-Manchester-United-Arsenal-even-Tottenham-or-Everton-article562971.html

Jason Heng
157 Posted 14/02/2013 at 03:40:54
If West Ham or QPR get relegated, then maybe Big Sam or Harry Rednose....
Peter Leslie
160 Posted 14/02/2013 at 03:44:03
Don't really see it happening, but maybe, just maybe the biggest ego in football could be attracted to the job of reviving a true sleeping giant through pure charisma and the force of an inspirational and fearless personality.

Look at his interview after last nights game: the sky muppet asked "do United have the advantage with that away goal?' He cocks an eyebrow, sneers and shakes his head, saying "Nah, we'll score more than one goal there". Contrast Moyes.

No team JM manages is Ever beaten before the game starts. Many of us believe that a negative psychology is what holds us back every time a big game comes along, so who better to change that?

But why would he do it, when Chelsea and Man City or even Arsenal might be available?

He doesn't need the money, and his reputation is secure - if he did fail due to not having the resources to compete for leagues and CL his excuses would be ready-made and nobody could possibly criticise him, and he'd still have his pick of the best clubs two years later (Man Utd, nailed-on) There's no downside.
Yet If he did succeed against athe odds, he'd be rightly recognised as an all-time legend of the game. That's the up-side.

The charisma and romantic aura the man generates is incredible: if he did come, the profile it would give us just might attract a buyer and we'd have a shot at seeing the back of Bullshit BIll, or of levering open the wallets of our billionaire board. You think Moyes will ever do that?

What do we want fellow Blues? 10 more years' death-by-disappointment, or radical change and hope and inspiration?

Call me a deluded dreamer if you like, but check the fucking motto before you do.
NSNO, We are Everton.

Brian Williams
165 Posted 14/02/2013 at 06:14:20
He'll be at Goodison next season alright.......................sitting in the away dugout when we play Man City!
Simon Harris
168 Posted 14/02/2013 at 07:08:54
You're a deluded dreamer Peter.

Moyes or no Moyes - Bill and Bob would still be here. ...And 3, 2, 1... you're awake!

Derek Thomas
170 Posted 14/02/2013 at 07:05:27
Da plane Da Plane, it wouldn't even happen on Fantasy Island. It wouldn't even happen in one of those ' everything that can happen will happen ' in all possible universes.

So lets roll the tape.... Jose arrives, driven by The Stig, with Lampard AND Rooney, who, having both decided, that at this stage in their life they need a new direction and that money isn't everything and the will play for the average Club wage AND donate half to local charities.

Terry Leahy sees all this and decides to mount a Coup, which is successful. His first move is to make BK a life president and only member of the boys pen and sticks him in the corner of the Gwladys St and Bullens rd in his own one man boys pen. Then totally remakes the whole commercial arm of the Club.

Fast forward to extra time in the CL final Vs Barca, where, after School of Sciencing their tika taka arses off it is some how still 0-0 ( somethings never change )

Rooney does a Gosling and scores the winner deep into Extra Time, Rooney then gives his Medal to Tony Hibbert who had played in every round, but missed the final in a shocking freak Trout Farm related injury.

The Good times continue to roll, we buy and knock down the Echo Arena and build a proper ground with all the bells and whistles.

The rs go bankrupt and end up in the Zingari, but get threw out for being complete arseholes. ( rs, you always get what it says on the tin )

have I missed any thing out.

I had a dream.

Fast forward two years.

Sam Hoare
172 Posted 14/02/2013 at 08:00:17
I wonder how well he would actually do with no money? I could imagine style wise us playing a lot more KITAP 1 as inter Milan did when they won champ league.
Matt Traynor
173 Posted 14/02/2013 at 08:23:44
Taggart has won something like 40 trophies in his career. Creamcake is about 20 years younger than him and has won 20 trophies so far. Taggart reckons Creamcake has the potential to win more than him, and become the "greatest ever manager" in the game.

Some would point to Taggart having been in a league that is more competitive than Portugal, Spain, or during Creamcake's tenure, Italy.

Creamcake has proven he is an astute manager, but has generally been at clubs where they have money to burn. Even Porto weren't paupers - winning the league in Portugal pretty much every year, and the occasional European pot is gonna keep money coming in.

Even if he's a closet Everton fan with a "Nil Satis" tattoo on his arse, could you really see him coming to Everton? No money, no big egos to manage in the dressing room, no money to bring in any...

James Martin
178 Posted 14/02/2013 at 09:07:20
What about Harry Redknapp if it all goes sour for him at QPR? Would never have considered him but he had Spurs playing some great football and has proven that he can work with top players. (Lets just forget the window that he decided trading Saha for Pienaar was a good deal and tried to get Phil Neville)
Eugene Ruane
184 Posted 14/02/2013 at 09:06:03
Derek (170) regarding the former Tesco boss, you say..

"..Terry Leahy sees all this and decides to mount a Coup, which is successful.."

If that did happen, I could see us buying Carroll from West Ham to link him with Jelavic.

And I can see the headline: "Everton attack contains 50% horsemeat"

Ithangyew!

Craig Walker
186 Posted 14/02/2013 at 09:24:26
I think there's more chance of Sir Alf Ramsey being Everton's next manager than Mourinho.

If/when Moyes leaves I think we'll either get Martinez or Phil Neville.

Phil Walling
194 Posted 14/02/2013 at 10:04:13
You must want something to write about,Nick-I`m surprised at you.
More likely,Davey will be pushing for his old mate,Malky Mackay-and you know Bill always does what his manager tells him!
Dennis Shaw
204 Posted 14/02/2013 at 10:47:07
Derek @170 very good post and all could have been true without Billy BS.
Dave Roberts
215 Posted 14/02/2013 at 11:44:19
Whoever it was who mentioned Di Canio can I just ask one question?

Do we really want a self-confessed and overt fascist as Everton manager?

Football is important to me and Everton even more important but I have personal lines to draw and somebody with a 'fascisti' membership card and proud of it would be the place to draw them. There are some things even more important than football.

Kev Johnson
216 Posted 14/02/2013 at 11:55:30
Remember when Di Canio was playing for West Ham and he caught the ball when our keeper was injured? So, to be fair, he's a very sporting fascist - in fact, he reminds me a bit of the prison Commandant in the film 'Escape to VIctory'...
Dominic Bobadilla
223 Posted 14/02/2013 at 12:24:59
Dave Roberts: The Roman salute does not have the same connotations on the Southern hemisphere that it does on the Northern. Her Majesty's Government had no problems with Franco and Salazar. Di Canio has emphasised, more that once, that he is no racist. Nobody cares about Moyes's political affiliations; why should we care about Di Canio's?
Dominic Bobadilla
234 Posted 14/02/2013 at 13:13:49
And, Dave, if you would like to keep things as clean as possible, I think it would be safer to support a local pub team. If you scrutinise the bigger clubs too closely, you might not like what you find.
John Gee
277 Posted 14/02/2013 at 16:26:59
Sir Alf Ramsey has got more life in him than Brenda next door. As For Mark Hughes, his career is finished. He might get lucky in a year or two and land a Championship club but he's managed 4 or 5 Premier League clubs already and either failed or upset them.

And Jose? I would luv it! Great character. When I'm in bed with the morning BBC weather milf, I'll be thinking about Jose! Can't see it somehow but he'd be Everton's manager before Citeh's. Being at Middle Eastlands would make it difficult for him to cross over to Man Utd.

But, let's be honest, Chelsea looks most likely. I think hiring FSW was sending a message to Jose and I'm sure he'll adore watching Benitez make a bid for a job Jose already knows he has.

Dave Roberts
285 Posted 14/02/2013 at 17:09:35
Dominic

A fascist is a fascist I'm afraid and you can scrub 'em up as much as you like but they never come clean. Anyone who can describe the loathsome Ultras as 'his people' is despicable. Fascism is a lot more than a political affiliation it is a way of life....a way of life that does not see people as equals and some people as specifically inferior.

There are certain political movements or parties that I personally despise but it would not bother me one jot if I found out Moyes was a member of one of them as long as it was democratic and solely political. Fascism is way beyond politics, is based on prejudice and bigotry and is undemocratic. That is why I care about the fascist's outlook on life and upon his fellow human beings. The prospect of him becoming the manager of Everton would not alter that one iota even if he was the best manager in the world. Being manager of Everton, or being the Fuhrer of the Third Reich, does not excuse fascism.

By the way, Italy is not in the southern hemisphere. Geopolitically it is a part of Europe and on our bloody doorstep.

Harold Matthews
293 Posted 14/02/2013 at 17:39:23
When Maldini senior managed Italy he told reporters that if the whole squad went down over-night with Bubonic Plague he would still not select De Canio.
Sean Thomas
307 Posted 14/02/2013 at 19:27:56
Right. Lets get serious. No Mourinho ever. It wont happen ever. Ever ever ever. Next we are poor, so we wont win anything. The only thing that will change our fortunes will be a new chairman. New manager. Moyes just isn't a winner full stop. Sp for now lets just enjoy what we get and hope for things to change.

I hate how football has become. Money. Wages and referees. Its not a level playing field anymore. The 80's was when I first watched everton. Those were the days. Not because we won most things. It was football im its purest

its sad. So sad. To see this beautiful game being ruined because of money. I just cant see the end of the tunnel for Everton. It seems we are a million miles away from CL semis and finals. Taking the premier league on the last day. Why is it like this? Why has it become so predictable?

I love Everton. Im falling out of love with the way football is and will be.

Dominic Bobadilla
327 Posted 14/02/2013 at 20:14:51
Dave: I took recourse to the designation "hemisphere" in a cultural/pragmatic rather than in a strictly geometric/geographic sense. I acknowledge now that I should have expressed myself differently. You are entitled to your political views, however simplistic and puerile they might be.

To give you just one example: Botha was a liberal-conservative democrat and a shameless racist who enjoyed the backing of the British and the Americans, whereas Di Canio is an avowed anti-racist. I find it somewhat paradoxical that you are ostracising an anti-racist, because you do not like his political views, yet you have the temerity to parade yourself as a democrat.

As long as Di Canio is not a racist, I am willing to disregard his political views, and I would welcome him as Everton's manager. This is football ffs and not politics.

Nick Entwistle
328 Posted 14/02/2013 at 20:45:50
Well, Sean I don't agree. Who has been a winner without the money? McClaren, Redknapp, and erm, McCleish. The winning managers can't just be the ones who end up at the sides with money, and then win things, or is that coincidence? We don't live in an age of football that is competitive.

If you're competing against CL teams then that's essentially 4 or 5 Premier League teams trying to be out done by 15 16 Championship sides. That will rarely if ever happen. In fact, Spain have their two top teams, Scotland had two... it's no different with our 4. Spurs have obviously something going for them in the finances, we're just hanging on. What would a winning manager for you bring to the club, success wise?

Nick Entwistle
330 Posted 14/02/2013 at 20:53:31
Dominic, paradoxical indeed!
John Crawley
331 Posted 14/02/2013 at 20:46:35
Dave Roberts - 285: Well said.

Nick it's a beautiful dream and I would love to see him here just for a couple of years but I don't think there's any chance.

To those other people who don't think he can do any better than Moyes - what planet are you on! He is the best manager of his generation, are you really saying that Moyes is his equal? I have no doubt that if he was here he could get us into the top 4.,

Nick Entwistle
335 Posted 14/02/2013 at 21:10:51
And that's why it makes more sense to come to Everton if he's waiting for the call from Old Trafford, John, he can't lose coming here. He gets Everton to the CL and through the group stages he's a hero. Going to Chelsea or City in the interim, nah.

Sean Thomas
433 Posted 15/02/2013 at 11:37:54
Hi Nick

I'm not saying you cant win things without money. It dam well helps the money teams though. Man Utd and Fergie get all the praise. Yet all they do is buy the best players. Rooney. RvP. Young. Valencia. Jones. These are players that are doing well for their clubs. Then in comes Man Utd. I'm not saying that we don't do the same. Moyes does his business the way it should be. He buys rough diamonds and actually uses his managerial skills to make them better.

Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea just buy the finished product or the up-and-coming and therefore buy success.

I sit and think why must Fellaini and Baines have to move on? If we don't have success. It is the main and only reason teams like us can't change our fortunes. We must rebuild. Restart and move backwards everytime we get close.

John Crawley
622 Posted 15/02/2013 at 20:55:16
Nick okay I'm with you. Let's get that facebook/twitter campaign started!
Thomas Windsor
730 Posted 16/02/2013 at 09:55:36
Sheedy, Sheedy, Sheedy — well, why not? I'd rather have him in with maybe Big Dunc than Hughes, Bruce, Kean, Big Sam, Hollaway...

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