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What a feeling!
I've just seen a half-hour of highlights from the FA Cup Semi-Final between us and Southampton in 1984.
I've never seen highlights that long before and didn't realise how many chances we had. Some of you who were there must have thought it wasn't going to be our day.
It must have been a relief when Heath put the ball in the back of the net deep in injury-time. I'd have loved to have been there.
Trevor Thompson, Posted 29/04/2013 at 13:18:40
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909 Posted 30/04/2013 at 06:10:02
911 Posted 30/04/2013 at 06:12:34
912 Posted 30/04/2013 at 06:17:43
Johnny, Bricker, Si, Bracey, Mad-Fred, and Humey x2 in the minivan that met outside
The Railway in Waterloo that day, precious, precious memories. And Keith Mullen from The Farm was there with his musical hammer.
918 Posted 30/04/2013 at 07:01:29
956 Posted 30/04/2013 at 10:03:29
001 Posted 30/04/2013 at 13:02:54
008 Posted 30/04/2013 at 13:13:46
TELL ME MA ME MA, WE'RE GOIN 'TO WEMBLEY TWICE!!!!
030 Posted 30/04/2013 at 14:22:04
Problem was, Everton were on the North Bank! So, keeping my gob shut we shoved our way down the terracing to the front.
I tapped a steward on the back, and told him I was an Everton fan, and so he let us clinb over the wall and walked us down the side of the pitch to the other end. Imagine that happening today!
I can't remember anything about the game, apart from Inchy's late, late winner past Shilton. I do remember, however, the resultant pitch invasion, and all the Blues who remained waiting around the touchline while the final minutes were played out.
When the final whistle blew, hundreds of Blues ran on to the pitch to celebrate, with the inevitable result that there was a big scrap with the Southampton fans in the centre circle.
Happy Days!
Incidentally, the following season I took my Arsenal mate to his only visit to Goodison. It was the Sunderland game with the two Andy Gray diving headers and the epic Bracewell pass to Trevor Steven. He has always said it was the best football he's ever seen.
031 Posted 30/04/2013 at 14:42:12
With the goal, I recall the ball seemed to hang in the air forever when Inchy headed it straight towards me and time seemed to stop for a second. Then the ball hit the net and pandemonium. I went on the pitch, even had time to take a photo ( really! ) before nearly getting flattened by a white police horse!
Closest to it since was the Man Utd semi I think, but truth be told we'll never have another semi quite like that one. So glad I was there.
105 Posted 30/04/2013 at 16:41:38
Villa Park, Milk Cup Semi-Final — what support we had that night! It seemed like we had half the ground. Can anyone remember the massive Everton flag down by the Holt end? A brilliant day out.
I have had some of my best days at the semis: Man Utd at Wembley, Spurs at Elland Road, Luton at Villa Park to name just a few. Fantastic memories .
139 Posted 30/04/2013 at 17:41:48
After that many of us had to stand up all the way back to Lime Street on a train with no light or heat for about 7 hours. Magic! I wouldn't swap stuff like that for anything.
Where would we be without this wonderful entity called Everton?
166 Posted 30/04/2013 at 18:40:25
168 Posted 30/04/2013 at 18:49:48
175 Posted 30/04/2013 at 18:56:36
The reason it occurred to me yesterday is that it was 35 years ago yesterday that I stepped (ie: ran screaming) onto Goodison Park for the first and only time in my life (figure it out)
However for the Southampton semi, I like many others was involved in TWO 'invasions'.
Twice on at Highbury in one game, once at Goodison in roughly 46 years.
I've also been on the pitch at Loftus Rd twice (once playing - no really!) and once at Filbert St.
Paul Ferry - I have a size 5 Freeman Hardy & Willis slip-on (in povvo grey) that I picked up that day.
Let me know if it's yours and I'll get it to you.
183 Posted 30/04/2013 at 19:34:25
So when 'Inchy' scored that goal, every disappointment had at last altered to utter joy and relief. A never to be forgotten day and one of the reasons I dislike Wembley being used for Semi Finals it takes a little of the magic away.
196 Posted 30/04/2013 at 20:01:12
198 Posted 30/04/2013 at 20:15:08
303 Posted 01/05/2013 at 08:08:28
307 Posted 01/05/2013 at 08:22:50
That old bloke WOULD be me now though, should we ever produce a striker who can hit 30 league goals in a season.
(can't see me ambling on to shake hands with Vic or Jelly anytime soon)
315 Posted 01/05/2013 at 09:13:21
324 Posted 01/05/2013 at 09:37:25
Final whistle, pitch invasion and the penalty spot was the first target
From the number of Blues I've met who also dug up a bit, that penalty spot would have had to have been as big as the pitch!
God, I feel sorry for young Blues today who have never seen a great Everton side
342 Posted 01/05/2013 at 11:01:49
I like that and it is worrying when you look at it :-(
348 Posted 01/05/2013 at 11:01:33
352 Posted 01/05/2013 at 11:24:51
I think you're right.
Of COURSE money helps with success, but if you look at that side (and Clough's Forest and successful 70s-80s Liverpool sides) the idea, whether conscious or not, was based on the collective.
No 'stars' no egos etc.
(nb: Real Madrid, brilliant players, expensive players but knocked out of the CL by a...TEAM)
However if it were ever to happen (again) for us, I believe totally that it won't happen without first getting a Peter Reid.
A big mouth, a nark, a hard-case, someone the rest of them fear and respect.
Not someone who doesn't like losing, someone who fucking DESPISES losing.
Someone who would cheat at Monopoly when playing their own kids,
If we could find this type of character, I believe we COULD get closer.
At the moment we might be watching the quietest (nicest?) Everton side ever.
354 Posted 01/05/2013 at 11:41:42
358 Posted 01/05/2013 at 11:52:43
Joey Barton will be looking for a new club this summer. Definitely not ideal but not sure how many of those sorts of players are around these days.
I think if Felli goes then a strong, box to box leader is definitely needed. Difficult to imagine someone from Europe coming in and bossing our team but maybe Capoue, Fer or Strootman?
417 Posted 01/05/2013 at 13:25:04
My recollection of that side was that they had an intense, burning desire to win.
I guess with Reid he thought his career was almost over due to his injury record and that was his motivation. 'Our Howie' takes a punt when other managers bottled it - £60k ? - the rest is history as they say.
That side had other leaders too - would YOU have wanted to play against Pat VDH ?!
Some will mock the recollections with 'jumpers for goalposts' comments and say the game has moved on.
In the heat of battle on the pitch, IMO strength of character still means a hell of a lot.
Example ? I was lucky enough to be there for Bayern Munich Semi-final 2nd leg at Goodison - their centre half looked like a man mountain. Gray/Sharp never flinched from a challenge all night.
420 Posted 01/05/2013 at 13:48:04
Don't know if you have a video of the Bayern game but if you watch it back with a 21st century view of the game you'll wonder how Reid doesn't get sent off inside the first 10 minutes and same goes for the German guy that puts his studs through Reid's shinpad that had so much blood pouring through it he ended the first half in one red sock.
It's a girls game now, proper players don't prosper anymore.
425 Posted 01/05/2013 at 13:45:09
Well this type of player is (I believe) born not made.
Their will to win and hatred of losing is innate.
Reid, Collins, Keane, Ball, McKay, Souness (spit!) Bremner etc - I don't believe their attitude was coached into them.
Truth is, there are not many of them around these days.
I imagine there might be one or two knocking about in the lower leagues but unearthing them (without others becoming aware of them), no easy task.
I have to say I'm a fan of Nolan.
Supporters of every team he's played for seem to love him.
He has a fucking big mouth, is a narky bastard, can (as we know) put a 'stiff' tackle in and he seems to have 'that thing' where he drags those around him, along with him.
He can (imo) also play a bit.
He leads by example, scores goals and generally seems to hate getting beat.
When West Ham got him for (something like) £6m, I couldn't get over it, particularly given there were players who needed five touches to control a ball, being sold for £8m - £10m.
It's about trying to find a Reid and/or a Gray.
I don't mean a striker and a midfield player, I mean people or a person who has a personality that influences the rest.
I remember Inchy saying the team in 83 wasn't bad, but quiet.
He also said it was the infectious enthusiasm and attitude of those two aging players that changed everything.
437 Posted 01/05/2013 at 14:17:47
We'd also had a couple of bottles of 99p String of Pearls which was a fizzy cider, but it had a pop-cork, that made it open like champagne. If you drank half you could still force the cork back in and get a pop out of it. Everytime the team passed we'd give it a shake and crack it again, ha. The players got onto it and must have thought we had a big stash of Champers (£1.98 worth from the Kwiky!). I remember Inchy, Richardson, Stevens et al. toasting us and laughing – "But then, we were all very, very, very drunk"
551 Posted 02/05/2013 at 00:30:49
lucky toenail still inside aforementioned footwear? That was not my normal footwear in '84 I hope you understand, I was trendier than that, all my good stuff was at my ex-girlfriends who exed/axed me the day before. She's now married to a very rich man. Makes me think of Jilted John who had a came walk on in Alf Robert's corner store on luvvy's Corrie back in the day.
Could you please post the shoe and hopefully the toenail to me c/o Geoff Nulty, 13A (apartment-7) Grim Drive, Burnley, Lancs, BNP1 0RS
553 Posted 02/05/2013 at 00:34:44
Anyway, 8 pints before the game meant I spent half of the first 45 minutes in the loo - good job the game went to extra time, so I could get my money's worth. The winner was a blur, I was level with the 18 yard line at the scoring end but we couldn;t work out which fair haired head had put it in - we didn't care
After the match it was back to West London, straight off the tube at North Ealing in early evening sunshine and into the Greystoke for a few more jars before we popped two doors down for a ruby. Then it was home to my flat for Match of the Day and to make some inroads into a bottle of Bacardi Gold.
Of for those days again!
579 Posted 02/05/2013 at 10:57:15
What an atmosphere, I'd been used to the unroofed Gwlady's Street End, the North Bank and it's metal roof was 20 times louder, bonkers.
You can see from this thread the difference in the generations of Evertonians, there's us, who have been there through the good and the bad, seen it and done it and know it's possible. Then there's the new generation, who only know the bad and don't believe there can ever be the good.
Well we are here to say it isn't ALL about money, of course it helps, it always did, BUT we CAN see the good again, we just have to believe, and that means Moyes and the players, as well as the supporters.
Let's start this Sunday, if Moyes BELIEVES and gets the players to believe for once, we can stuff the Kopites.
COYB
602 Posted 02/05/2013 at 13:21:44
Memory plays tricks and all that but I can't remember the signings of Mountfield, Pat VDH and Southall being much at all ? For some reason, £60k for Peter Reid sticks in my mind from Bolton. I remember watching Trevor Steven playing alongside Martin Dobson for Burnley when it was rumoured we were interested in him. The old maestro and his apprentice - £300k ?
Anyone remember the amounts for the others ?
Were we 'buying success' ? Or was it very shrewd purchases from HK and then blending them into that fantastic team ?
606 Posted 02/05/2013 at 13:40:26
620 Posted 02/05/2013 at 15:18:46
We were heavy underdogs that day. We were a good and respected side (by April) having not lost a game all year (apart from the League Cup final replay and a dead rubber of second leg against Villa in the semi). Although we only finished 9th that season we had started so badly that we were viewed in a similar light to our current team - good, dangerous opposition but not spectacular and lacking stars and flair.
Southampton finished second in the league that season and had some very good players - including bald eagle Armstrong and Shilton in goal. It would be similar now to beating a team like Chelsea or City or Arsenal.
We were a couple of players short of the great team of '85. We still had Irvine and Bailey in the starting 11. Sharp was on the bench that day. No Van Den Hauwe or Bracewell. And a host of the other players were still developing, such as Stevens, Steven and Mountfield.
626 Posted 02/05/2013 at 15:30:17
It's often forgotten but Curran actually refused to be substituted (for Sharp) that day. HK took Steven off instead, much to the fans' anger, but it was the last we seen of Curran! Sheedy had been injured at Wembley, by a nasty Phil Neal tackle, and was out all season, so we just made do on the left – with Kevin Richardson playing there against Watford.
706 Posted 02/05/2013 at 21:33:26
710 Posted 02/05/2013 at 22:10:02
716 Posted 02/05/2013 at 22:58:32
935 Posted 03/05/2013 at 18:47:53
And it should be remembered that only 3 and a half months before this great occasion we played Coventry in front of 13,659 at Goodison in a poor 0-0 draw and Kendall was clinging to his job by a thread. What the likes of Tony Marsh and his ilk wopuld have had to say about that first half of a season is probably unprintable! Maybe it was Tony who daubed ' Kendall Out' on Howie's garage door the previous November? :)
Football fortunes can swing round very fast, even these days. If you don't believe good times will happen again, what's really the point of following your team? Might as well take up Sudoku or something!
130 Posted 04/05/2013 at 11:47:20
And a bloody great banner along the stand to the right of the North Bank.... "Victory to the Miners"
One of the best days ever!
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908 Posted 30/04/2013 at 05:55:02
That 117th min goal is my fave EFC moment of all time, ahead of Rotterdam. Later, at home, replaying Radio Merseyside, 'Oh Everton don't lose your heads now'.
Left Highbury, elated, rather than heading home we went the other way to central London and got hammered. In the Punch and Judy in Covent Garden that night blues were everywhere as in 84/85/86/87 and later on at the Sussex on Drury Lane and the Cambridge at Cambridge Circus. We were blessed, what days. That team. Sharpy 23 goals before Xmas and my faves, Lord Sheeds and Tricky Trrevor. Wish all you 20/30 somethings could have been there. And don't get me started on crates of Grolsch in Rotterdam at 7am, tackling a mean crew of Rapid-V boys headed by Vienna's Buster Bloodvessel and me running in grolsch heaven into a tree with a pack of Vienna lads on my tail.