Duncan Disorderly

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After losing our illustrious manager, we are now linked, on an almost hourly basis, with every man and his dog, as a potential successor to Davidd Moyes. People make quite compelling arguments as to the whys and wherefores of different managers on ability, and experience... Well, I thought, I would have ago myself… and yes — Big Dunc is the man for me.

Now I have already tweeted this, (yes I do tweet) and some people agree, and some don’t. The main reason for disagreeing is based on experience, They respond with, "Not now... one for the future. We need a man with a proven track record."

Now that seems a fair observation but, as I have pointed out, when Daglish took over the shite as player manager, he never had an ounce of experience. Not even a coaching badge or licence; he just got given the job. He won the League Title in his first year... sorry to remind us all of that but I believe he won it because he was a winner. Man-management, leading from the front, the fans hero, and rightly so.

I believe it takes a man who has won the day, cups, titles, and a forward-thinking player. Not a defender type, negative, from the outset, concentrating on avoiding defeat rather than seizing the day. Wigan seized the day on Saturday, others have as well in the past.

I believe with Big Dunc we have a winner, a winner who is an Evertonian. Yes, he may need help, Royle, Harvey, any one you can think of… But he would be an imposing figure on the touchline... he would inspire the will to win. I have heard he is doing an excellent job as a coach at Everton now, and commands respect from everyone.

I haven't renewed my season ticket for a few years now, picking and choosing my games. If Big Dunc was the new man at the helm, I would instantly renew, such is the appeal, and I have spoken to a few others who have said the same. Oh and by the way, I don’t think he would leave us for anyone… Mancs included.

One last thing, before this gets ripped to shreds, no doubt, if I was Kenwright, I would move heaven and earth to bring back Rooney, give him £100k a week and all his own Merchandise, spend £25M to sign him out of the TV revenue. I know I am dreaming now, but Rooney up front with Super Kev and Big Dunc on the touchline... titles in the bag.

Robby Daniels, Liverpool     Posted 15/05/2013 at 12:55:15

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Colin Glassar
910 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:18:23
Big Dunc would instil even more fire and passion in the team but a modern day manager needs more than that. He needs to outwit his opponents, make the necessary tactical changes during the game, the correct substitutions at the right time etc... I don't know if the big man is ready for this.

You spoke of Dalgleish but anyone could've won the league with that team. The team picked itself and they had an established style which they stuck to.

If it is Duncan then I will stand beside him (not literally) and give him my full support. At least we won't roll over when we play the top 4 away from home.

As for Rooney. Yeah, I'd give it a go. I don't know if Coleen would be happy with a miserly £100k p/w though. Those Jimmy Choo's are really expensive.

Ross Edwards
911 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:26:32
No. He may be an Everton legend but it doesn't mean he can do a better job than our ex manager. We need a foreigner, who has been successful and has managed in Europe, and has had experience at big clubs.

Someone like Periera or De Boer etc. British managers are few and far between, and foreign is the way to go.

Neil Adams
912 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:24:48
Presumably if we do end up with Ferguson in charge the players will be on a bonus for bookings and sendings off?

Seriously though, I believe Big Dunc would certainly inspire the team and would indeed be an imposing figure on the touchline. I'd prefer him to be assistant manager first though, with someone that has proven tactical nous in charge.

Maybe a triumvirate of Martinez, Dunc and Phil Neville?

Colin Glassar
916 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:33:04
Neil, Martinez with one of 'our' lads would do me. Taking into account that few people think Martinez knows how to defend than Stubbsy or Alan Irvine as his assistant could work IMO.
Ross Edwards
917 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:33:49
"someone that has proven tactical nous in charge"
We allowed DM to get away with no tactical knowledge whatsoever for 11 years didn't we?
Ross Edwards
919 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:35:15
"Maybe a triumvirate of Martinez, Dunc and Phil Neville?"
The Marx brothers would do a better job frankly.
Ben Jones
920 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:37:06
Ross, what makes you think Moyes has no tactical knowledge? Would we be making top 6 with a manager with zero knowledge? Would he be Man Utd manager with zero tactical knowledge?

It's a load of bollocks.

Jackie Barry
921 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:37:49
No, we need somebody who is proven not somebody who hasn't managed in their life.
John Gee
923 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:28:00
As an Everton supporter with free afternoons Rooney must come on to this site every now and again. Maybe he saw a post saying 'all we need is a £20m striker' and thought to himself he could be that man and put in a transfer request!

I think I was the first to post up what we need before all of you, so I'm taking the credit... and the commission on makin' it happen.

Would a life long Blue be happy playing for his home town club, managed by his hero, earning £100k a week and sticking it to Moyes from the right end of the East Lancs? You fucking bet he would!

Ross Edwards
924 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:39:19
Ben Jones
He looked completely clueless during big matches, his substitutions, (when he finally made them) were bizarre and ridiculous, Naismith on, words failed me whenever he came on. No Plan B, and Plan A was just KITAP1.
John Gee
925 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:39:57
Ross, I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before... what about De Boer?

I think you're becoming the new Jimmy S.

Ben Howard
927 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:39:41
My main fear is that potentially our greatest ever manager of the future might fail if dumped in the deep end too early. Duncan for me epitomises everything I hold dear about our football club. I agree with everything the OP says and dream of Ferguson leading our boys to the title. And why not? The imbalance of power will shift and every Dog of War has his day. But why now? Why risk making a mess of things and potentially rushing our greatest ever manager (of the future)?My preferred choice is Martinez by the way and, with Duncan as assistant manager and Stubbs, Weir and Kev as coaches. I'm sure any new manager will have their own staff that they choose to bring in but surely if Ferguson is as good as we all pray he is he'll get his chance soon enough.
Colin Glassar
928 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:42:39
John Gee, let's all shout out together, Wazza, come home!!!! Could you imagine it if he scored a hatrick at OT against manure? I can just picture Moyes face.
Ross, once again spot on. His obsession with Naismith was worrying to say the least. His downright refusal to play Barkley, Oviedo, Duffy etc...was downright negligent.
Ross Edwards
931 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:49:06
"The new Jimmy S"
Sorheim I hope John?
James Martin
937 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:46:38
Ross we know you don't like Moyes but he's gone. There's no point trying to convince people that he had no tactical knoweldge just because he bought Naismith on at times. We're 6th in the prem for gods sake, in your eyes he may have had some tactical limitations but he was clearly a hell of a lot better than the majority of the prem. If Plan A was just KITAP1 why did we have a seemingly endless run of 2-2 draws earlier in the season, did Moyes progress this year to kitap2? The thing is Moyes is so open to actual valid criticism that people would accept but yet you come out with rubbish like he was tatcically inept - that must be why he got the Man U job then - only the greatest manager of all time picked him.

Seeing as this thread was about Dunc before Ross hijacked it again, I think so called passion and charisma is becoming underrated in the modern game. Maybe in the old days when a bit of harder running and effort would suffice but now the game is a sprawling mess of tactic boards and statistical analysis. If Duncs learned all of this and the guys at the top think he is good enough for the job then fine. if people just want him in because he's a good cheerleader and might batter Rodgers in the derby then its not really the best move for the long term future of Everton is it. Plus Kenny inherited a very good team - his league form with the modern version of LFC and Shearer's foray into management shows the danger of going for the sentimental option. Kenwirght didn't go for it last time - don't think he will again this time either.

Ross Edwards
940 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:56:59
Hijack?
I just gave my point of view. If you don't want me to voice them I'll quit the site James, if that makes you happy.
Jackie Barry
944 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:59:49
James I think he was pretty inept at times, tactically speaking. He certainly never made many changes that made a big difference to games and always had his favourite few that would play no matter what. I will praise him for what he did bring to Everton but I'm not going to say he was 100% faultless because that's just delusional.
James Martin
945 Posted 15/05/2013 at 15:59:26
Nothing wrong with voicing your opinion Ross and on the Moyes threads go for it - but every thread is turning into a post mortem of the Moyes era and

"someone that has proven tactical nous in charge"
We allowed DM to get away with no tactical knowledge whatsoever for 11 years didn't we?'

Just drags the argument away from what the thread is about as well as being erroneous. If Moyes had 'no tactical knowledge whatsoever' why weren't we relegated? Are their managers in this league with less than 'no' tactical knowledge? Or let me guess was it the 40,000 Evertonians who kept us in the top 7 most years nothing to do with the players on the pitch which is why managers who failed at other clubs will magically turn into top managers when they eventually get here?

James Martin
947 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:04:06
Jackie no one asked you to call him 100% faultless. Has anyone ever said that? Yes he was too wary of making changes - but equally we won a fair share of games under him so obviously started with the right team on more occasions than not. Who's the better tactical manager - the one who pciks the right team and walks off with the win from the start, or the one who changes the game with a substitution and is lauded for being a genius but actually sent the wrong team out to begin with? His subs should have been better yes Jackie but his initial 11s were often the right ones in my opinion.
Brian Harrison
948 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:01:26
This is the same Duncan Ferguson that had his teammates having to play a 10 versus 11 because of his actions. This is the same Duncan Ferguson who was widely reported to have gone in on a Monday after we had been live on Sky the day before to ask his teammates how they had got on.
Ross Edwards
949 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:09:05
Doddy does James...
Jackie Barry
950 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:07:45
I understand where you are coming form James but that records we go on about could have been so much better. Tactics in football do not stop when the game starts, your are playing against another team and the ability to outwit your opponent is what makes you the master tactician. During the game the opposition can make changes to counteract you tactics if you can't do anything about that it makes you pretty weak in this area of the game. Now I'm not saying Moyes didn't do a good job for us, he did, but there are certain areas that he was not very good at, the ability to make game changing tactics being one of them.
Steve Pugh
951 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:05:05
I have to agree with Ross, Moyes was very good at spotting and developing talent (albeit with older players rather than kids for some reason), more often than not he could set a team up to start a game. But once that whistle went he struggled. I would be interested in how much of his pre match tactics came off his spreadsheets and he just can't think on his feet.
Chris Keightley
952 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:09:00
Definitely not an Everton Legend!! was as good and bad in equal measure on and off the pitch, inspired many, despised by many, no question his heart and soul is with Everton maybe a number two in 3-4 years time !!
Brent Stephens
956 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:16:44
Some of these threads are f..ing hilarious! Somebody posts an opinion. And before we know it we've got two threads in one. One about the original post, and the other - I you guessed it, about that f..ing Moyes. Laugh my tits off. I have a private bet to myself on each new post as to who will be the first to hijack it and start to carp about Moyes. No names, no pack drills.
Kristian Boyce
957 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:22:09
Before everyone jumps on the Big Dunc band wagon, does he even have the coaching badges required to be a manager in the Premier League?
Paul Ferry
958 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:21:17
Careful Ross mate (940):

'I just gave my point of view. If you don't want me to voice them I'll quit the site James, if that makes you happy'

I feel a toffeeWeb poll coming on.

Ross Edwards
959 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:25:53
Are you a millionaire yet Brent, or am I short odds in the hijack stakes?
Brent Stephens
960 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:26:44
Oh to be happy.
Jackie Barry
961 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:25:58
Well it is kind of all interlinked Brent considering Moyes was our manager this is suggesting Big Dunc replaces him.
Ross Edwards
962 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:27:52
I'll start a Pulis thread shall I Brent, as I am now seemingly not allowed to speak about Moyes?
Jackie Barry
963 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:28:54
Sorry I forgot, he still is our manager.
Brent Stephens
965 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:27:40
Ross, would you want to be short odds?! Not a millionaire yet. I started out life with nothing and still have most of it left.

Jackie, ok, maybe a tenuous link. But very tenuous? As you "kind of..".

Paul Ferry
966 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:30:20
Jesus Ross are we now linked with Pullis? I just got out of bed, I'm going back to bed
Brendan McLaughlin
967 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:29:41
I don't care who our new manager is as long as Ross Edwards likes him. I couldn't stand another season of Perfectly Predictible Putdowns. FFS!...Tim/Peter needs to be on board as well!
Jackie Barry
968 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:31:17
Yeah maybe, in the end I think it all comes down to the majority of us not wanting BK to make a big mess up, which is quite a possibility.
Brent Stephens
969 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:31:14
Ross, nobody has said you're not allowed. Heaven forbid. OK, go for the Pulis one and let's see what we get (as if we can't guess). Ross, seriously, I read your bits, don't always agree, sometimes I might. But it's just the sheer repetition.
Ross Edwards
970 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:34:36
Depends who it is Brendan.
Peter Laing
972 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:31:20
The season after Rooney broke onto the scene, Everton experienced a huge lift and there were many more casual supporters and bums on seats at Goodison Park such was the buzz around the place.

After Moyes, there are in my opinion two options – a wildcard such as Ferguson and Stubbs, or a steady Eddie.

If we could attract Rooney back with Ferguson / Stubbs at the helm with an experienced coach alongside them there would be a huge amount of interest in Everton once again.

Whatever happens we need an 'insider' on the coaching staff, somebody who gets and knows how we feel, and somebody who will not just casually accept being turned over 3-0 at Anfield and weeks later dumped out of the FA Cup after being 1-0 up at half-time.

Peter Laing
973 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:41:11
scene not seen * bloody Ipad
Matt Traynor
976 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:41:10
Well Peter #972, seeing as Stubbs supposedly encouraged Rooney to move to OT (to pick up a bonus as a shareholder in Proactive - his then agency), perhaps it'll work the other way round?
Jackie Barry
978 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:48:45
Peter while that sounds interesting, exactly who would that make us attractive too. While these ex-players are great players they mean pretty much nothing to the outside world.
Robin Cannon
979 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:44:34
What kind of dreamland are people in talking about attracting Rooney back and having someone like Ferguson at the helm. The first is simply not going to happen, and the second would be a (bad, IMO) gamble of the highest order.

I want us to have a modern, thoughtful coach with a positive approach to the game and strong technical and imaginative methods. Might someone like Ferguson, Neville or Stubbs be a useful assistant to such a coach, definitely. Should someone like Ferguson, Neville or Stubbs be the manager? God no.

Michael Kenrick
981 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:53:37
Duncan not too happy with his Under-18s right now — they are losing 2-0 at Reading in their semi-final playoff: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/u18s-in-semi-final-today-822900.aspx?
John Gee
982 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:48:12
Ross, I apologise. I did indeed mean Mr Sorheim (lesser spotted of late, has he moved to Russia?)

Moyes said Johnny H would make a good manager a few weeks ago.

I think there is a question to be asked before we can appoint anyone anyway. are the coaching staff staying or going? If they're staying then an inexperienced manager could slot into position with a bit of a safety net. If the key members of the coaching staff are following the turncoat up the road then the pool of potential new managers will have to narrow to those who have experience.

Mr Mourinho, why don't you come to the REAL blues!

John Gee
986 Posted 15/05/2013 at 16:57:34
Actually fuck it, I have 2 great ideas...

1. Let's hire the most famous Qatari football manager.

2. Pre season tour of middle east.


The coaching staff can carry the weight of training, Mr 'putting us in the shop window' can stand on the touchline looking dapper and shouting at the 4th official. Job's a goodun.

John Gee
992 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:20:15
It's all gone a bit tumbleweeb on here so let me elaborate slightly.

Hire Terry Leahy to represent us on our middle east tour and tell Earl to do something for once and get some of his Hollywood chums to visit our matches over there to turn it into a complete and utter circus. Get PN to talk constantly about his friendship with Beckham and mention that he'd really like to set up a youth academy over there.

Interest in football (providing FIFA don't renege on the WC) will eventually reach fever pitch over there.

Or we could stay here and play TNS and Preston.

Colin Glassar
997 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:33:29
John, as BK will still be doing dip dip dip, my blue ship..... come August. I wonder if the new manager will get the egg on toast treatment like Moyes got? I wonder if Big Dunc would demand a haggis omelette with a pint of irnbru?
Danny Jones
002 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:29:57
Duncan as manager is romantic twaddle based on him being an Everton legend which, in my opinion, he isn't. I don't dislike him but be serioous.

Similarly half baked is the fanciful idea that foreign is the way to go and, therefore, Vitor Pereira is our man. Personally, I'd barely heard of him before a couple of weeks ago and certainly have little firsthand knowledge of his 'philosophy' (in quotes because it is Rodgers style bollocks).

Give us someone who knows the English game and how to operate on a budget. That is the situation he'll be working in whether we like it or not.

Paul Ferry
004 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:47:31
Actually Howie agrees although he does like a drink now and then doesn't he:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22525518

Peter Laing
008 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:51:24
Who do you recommend then Danny ?
Danny Jones
009 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:54:36
Out of the possibles, Martinez or Mackay. Not very inspiring, I know, but we are where we are.
Ian Bennett
010 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:07:38
Knows the English game, can finish in the top 4, gives youth a chance, plays attacking football, can spot a terriiiiiiific player.

Harry Redknapp's Dog.

James Stewart
011 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:09:10
Love Big Dunc but no.

Would be a massive massive gamble and he needs to cut his teeth somewhere first. Don't want Stubbs anywhere near it either.

Steve Pugh
012 Posted 15/05/2013 at 17:57:43
Point 1: Every new manager is a risk, especially at a club like Everton, it is all a question of degree.

Point 2: I see two choices we can either go for a manager for the short term with Dunc as a number 2 to basically get the big guy ready to take over. Or we gamble on a Laudrup/Martinez type.

Point 3: Who is the most successful manager of the premier league era? Are there any other temperamental, angry, gum chewing Scots with a penchant for smacking Prima Donna midfielders out there wanting to get into management.

Paul Andrews
032 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:41:06
Danny Jones, I didn't know much about him either.
He has been in charge of Porto for two seasons,won the league in his first season and if he wins the last game of the season on Saturday he will win the league in his second season.
Not such a half baked idea maybe ?
Dan Dorrington
039 Posted 15/05/2013 at 18:58:33
I'm not sure why Vitor Pereira seems to be getting little coverage. Looks like he is on course to win back to back titles at Porto, And is out of contract in the summer. Very similar to Martinez, except he wasn't relegated...
Stuart Gray
072 Posted 15/05/2013 at 19:58:11
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of promoting from within. Continuity might just work for us. Someone has already mentioned dalglish, but wasn't Guardiola promoted from within?

I started off thinking that it was a really bad idea, but I've come full circle now and I quite like it. Yes it would be cheaper, but that's a good thing for us. We don't have much money. And maybe someone who's worked with Moyes can see his mistakes and improve on them whilst keeping the bits that Moyes did well.

Neville and fergie would work. Maybe?

Ben Jones
187 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:48:42
I agree Moyesy has his limits with tactics, and will have to improve that side of the game to be a success at Utd.

But to say he has zero skill in it is madness. Everyone think its such an easy job, yet somehow with apparent zero skill in tactics, he manages to punch teams above their weight and finish 6th.

It just makes no sense, he must have a tactical brain to manage a top club, but I think his main strength is certainly man management skills.

Iain Johnston
188 Posted 15/05/2013 at 22:07:08
Stuart, I'll second that. None of the names being mentioned do anything for me. Footballers past and present have knowledge of opponents, tactics, attitude, moral etc etc. What did Mackay achieve as a player or Martinez?. Yet these are two examples of ex players who were given their chance when more well known candidates were available. Mackay especially was under tremendous pressure last August. I know, I live here. Yet, we'll be playing them next season. Scary as it seems I think BK will go inhouse, Big Dunc and Neville. most of the other names being mentioned are succesful where they are and have European football to look forward to, they're goin nowhere.
Kev Johnson
192 Posted 15/05/2013 at 23:01:10
What are the odds that the next manager will NOT be one of the 19 names on the TW poll? I can see it happening.
Jack Cross
254 Posted 16/05/2013 at 02:43:26
Big Dunc! Bloody hell... him as Gaffer? He's ok managing his pigeons... keep him doing that. As I've said, I fancy Neville but with Dunc... no chance. You need someone with reason and he has never had any.

I'll tell you who wouldn't be a bad second shout: Dave Jones. I like the way his teams play. He a very good manager wherever he goes. Maybe Dave Jones and Phil Neville in that order.

Jimmy Sørheim
255 Posted 16/05/2013 at 02:57:26
I have a feeling we are best served not pulling the trigger too soon on which permanent new manager we want. There are many non-British managers out there that might want this job, but they will have to be made aware of the job before they can take it. The smartest thing right now would be to hire Alan Stubbs and/or Steve Round as temporary manager until January or next summer. That will be a trial basis hire to see if they can take the heat or not.

Most likely they will continue along the lines of Moyes, and buy some of the players he wanted. We have to face it, we can NOT afford to keep sacking managers and picking up a new one every season or so like Chelsea does. I do not feel comfortable with Martinez as our new manager. He has no nous for really great players like Moyes does, and that is the reason why we should leave him be.

This new manager choice should not be taken as lightly as the last one. It would be a huge mistake to not set the bar at the highest possible candidate we can afford to get and go from there. It would be a mistake to go shopping for a new manager with only half of the worth Moyes currently is in wages. Is Kenwright that caught up in being average so he will reverse back into average every single time he gets his way?

Moyes was a great hire, but now we must aim much higher then we did before. First get a top European manager who has won trophies, and that has a great eye for youngsters. I would want to start by picking an example of what I want in our next manager. No better example then Solskjaer, he was in line to take the Aston Villa job but had to turn them down because of an oral agreement with his chairman. Solskjaer had all the attributes as a player, and now he is doing a great job for an average Molde FK side that only because of Solskjaer won the league two times straight. If Aston VIlla had him as first choice last summer, then why should we aim any lower?

The aim is the big question, where will Bill aim for? The middle of course, after all he has debts to pay and can not afford to aim as high as Moyes. The reason he is looking around average managers now, like Martinez or Lennon, is because he wants to slash the wages of the manager in half. Problem is it will hurt our short and long term goals to just hire the cheapest next best thing then average, Martinez.

I could go on, but I think I have said enough for people to understand my concern here. Basicly we need to aim higher than Moyes right now... while we still have the chance. For the wages Moyes was on, we can get the best of the best or next best. Why choose to go back to average when you are among the best???

Steve Ferns
450 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:49:29
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO

I could not think of a worse manager. What does Duncan know about training? He never turned up sober, if at all. what does Duncan know about tactics. What skills at all does Duncan have that makes you think he has anything to offer a top 6 club?

If Duncan is going to be a good manager, let him get coaching experience where he is with the u18s and then he can be considered in the future. Ferguson and Stubbs do not strike me as intelligent young men who know the first thing about taking modern training sessions, preparing a side or devising tactics.

James Morgan
593 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:05:16
I don't like doing this but, my wifes dad was speaking to someone in a pub nearby who is supposedly friends with a relative of big Dunc and got a text saying put your money on him being the manager.
I'm sceptical of people saying "my dads friends dogs sisters uncle said..."
But might be worth a few quid.
Brian Wilkinson
712 Posted 17/05/2013 at 02:37:33
Where does the Ferguson legend come from?

This the player who had far too many ordinary games against mediocre teams, was either injured or suspended, and if he didn't play, he didn't even know how Everton had gone on.

I pity the younger generation who have built Ferguson up as a legend... true he scored some great goals against the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd but for me he couldn't lace Latchfords, Sharps or Andy Gray's boots. A player who didn't show an interest in his teams results when he didn't play does not sound a candidate for the Everton job.

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