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Martinez thrilled with Besic's debut season

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Roberto Martinez has revealed how impressed he has been with Muhamed Besic in his first season in English football as he begins to fulfill his incredible potential."

The manager signed the Bosnia-Herzegovina international from Ferencvaros in Hungary last summer with the intention of grooming him gradually as a long-term replacement for Gareth Barry. Due to James McCarthy's protracted hamstring injury problems in the first half of the campaign, however, Besic ended up making 31 appearances for the club and became a cult hero among supporters.

Besic admitted in a recent interview that it had taken time for him to adjust to the physicality and speed of the Premier League, but Martinez has high hopes for the 22 year-old once he makes the № 6 role his own.

"He's an outstanding character," Martinez said in last week's meeting with the Everton fan sites. "He's just so impressive. Remember he's played 30 games this season, which is the greatest number of games he's ever had in professional football. He's only 22.

"When I saw him in the World Cup I knew that he was an Everton player because he would play with his heart. He is someone who is technically really, really skillful. He can keep the ball, he can see a pass off the ball. He's as good as you get defensively.

"He's just getting used to the Premier League and, tactically, I wanted him to develop a role where he's never played before. He's played with the (Bosnian) national team but only a few games. I know that he was in the World Cup against Argentina and those top teams but he still needs a little bit of playing time in order to master that position.

"But I think he's going to be a terrific player for the future."

Martinez acknowledged that many among the Goodison faithful felt the Bosnian was sometimes withdrawn from some matches too soon, particularly when results weren't going the team's way, but the Catalan insists it was done in the midfielder's best interests.

"I felt a little bit bad during the season where I know that the fans would have loved to see a little bit more of him on the pitch and I don't think he was ready to play as much as the fans would have liked. I think you need to protect the players a little bit at times.

"Sometimes he came on and he tried a little too hard and then it didn't come off but I think his contribution for the first season has been terrific. 30-odd games in the first year is a better return than I expected but he's someone who we have got here for the future and he's got incredible potential."

Quotes sourced from Roberto Martinez Interview


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Brian Porter
1 Posted 28/05/2015 at 06:44:40
It doesnÂ’t feel like we saw him 30 times this season, but I suppose Martinez, with his eternal optimism and positivity is counting every five minute substitute appearance as Â’a gameÂ’.

We certainly need to see more of Besic if heÂ’s to grow into a fully fledged Premier League regular, and a replacement for Gareth Barry. Hopefully the new season will see him start more games, with BarryÂ’s older legs reserved for substitute appearances when required. He surely canÂ’t play the number of full games he was expected to under Martinez in this last season.

Besic is a great hope for the future and could indeed turn out to be a class act for us, as long as his natural instincts are not drowned beneath a welter of MartinezÂ’s weird and wonderful training practices and tactical un-know how. Roberto does seem to have developed the knack of training the skills OUT of good players rather than improving the skills they already have.

WeÂ’ll be watching, Roberto. Keep to your word over Besic and maybe one or two people will start to believe you mean what you say. The jury is well and truly out on our manager and he must do something to restore any credibility he may have had at the start of last season. Maybe promoting Mo Besic to a more regular starting berth will be a step towards doing that. We shall wait and see.

Gareth Clark
2 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:08:47
I think we played him slightly too little, but good for him to get used to the Premier League.
Duncan McDine
3 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:08:46
Brian, I agree that Roberto needs to prove himself to the majority of us, but IMO cementing MoÂ’s place in the starting 11 is not on my list of Â’things to doÂ’.

DonÂ’t get me wrong, I like the lad, especially his tenacity, but until I see him make a big impact on our play and results, IÂ’m still tempted to leave the Barry/Macca partnership alone.

In an ideal world, IÂ’d love to see Gibbo and Macca in the middle, but even as one of his biggest fans, I think Gibson is a write-off for obvious reasons.

Paul Olsen
4 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:23:06
So Besic is unhappy then. And here comes Martinez to incredible-magnificent him, hoping heÂ’ll forget.

Actions speak louder than words and Besic has only played a minor part this season. In a season where the club has been disappointing, and his competitor Gareth Barry has been more than disappointing. If I were in BesicÂ’s shoes, I would want to leave.

Lyndon Lloyd
5 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:32:03
Not sure where you get the idea Besic is unhappy, Paul. He seems very well settled to me and looking forward to making his mark at Everton.

He hasnÂ’t said anything to suggest otherwise.

Richard Lyons
6 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:29:21
Yeah right... All that was left out of that bland statement is "HeÂ’s in a phenomenal moment of his career."

If you think heÂ’s so good, prove it by picking him more often!

Ross Edwards
7 Posted 28/05/2015 at 07:46:09
So why has he hardly had a kick of the ball since QPR? Him and Barkley looked a good combination that day.

Instead he plays that liability and yellow card waiting to happen, Barry. The Three Queens who were in the Mersey at the weekend turned faster than he can.

Lee Gorre
8 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:04:24
Jury’s out on him still for me but, hopefully, with a year’s settling in and some proper coaching, he can become an influential regular. His error on his debut against Chelsea sort of sums up what I have seen of him – he fails to do the simple things which are the hallmark of a holding midfielder.

Like a lot of players - particularly Barkley - under this manager, he takes too long, needs too many touches before he lets the ball go.

Abhishek Saha
9 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:03:37
Whatever flashes of Gibson we saw this year was of brilliance. He has the ability of being the creative mid-fielder with those defense splitting passes and as well as knows how to play that central midfield role, in fact IMO his creative passes from the heart of the midfield outweigh his defensive midfield abilities.
Darryl Ritchie
10 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:03:09
For a player to play in a different country, in a superior league and after all that, adjust to playing a position that heÂ’s not used to playing... he did OK. I think heÂ’s being groomed to play BarryÂ’s defensive mid role. The fact that Barry played so many minutes last season, tells me that heÂ’s not quite there yet, cause Barry looked like he sure couldÂ’ve used a breather a few times.
Wes Schmidt
11 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:06:28
Am I wrong in thinking the dude canÂ’t pass a lick and is always a booking waiting to happen? I do like his attitude; he and Naismith seem to be the only ones ever eager for a scrap, but I canÂ’t see Besic being anything but a liability in the starting 11.
Jim Bennings
12 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:12:17
Here comes Roberto again with his superlatives repertoire of "phenomenon, incredible, amazing moments blah blah". I would say Besic was, and is a competent solid central midfielder nothing more.

We get far too carried away here at Everton with "potential". From what I have seen some Everton fans would say Besic is so much better than the likes of Charlie Adam, Gylfi Sigurdsson or Ki at Swansea but from what weÂ’ve seen heÂ’s not a player with a vast array from strings to his bow. He canÂ’t create or score and his shot against Spurs on Sunday was about only his second goal attempt all season.

I agree, the jury is out so far, I like his attitude but I need to see a lot more before I get truly carried away.

Trevor Peers
13 Posted 28/05/2015 at 08:27:03
Roberto loves slapping himself on the back, itÂ’s his hallmark, self-praise usually totally undeserved.

Certainly in this case, Besic reminds me of Alan Harper – a lad we signed from the RS in the 1980s. Only he’s not as good. A water carrier at best.

Darren Bailey
14 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:08:06
Love that, Jim – Roberto’s superlatives repertoire of "phenomenal, incredible, amazing" – and don’t forget "unbelievably talented"! You beat me to it.

RM – just play him. Personally I don’t understand why he’s trying to groom him into a DCM when he’s played his whole career as a CB. We need a couple of those.

Oh, IÂ’ve got an idea...

Phil Walling
15 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:24:12
ItÂ’s going to be a long, hard summer as Martinez Â’bigs upÂ’ his terribly average signings one by one. Then, perhaps as we reach pre-season, we shall hear how phenomenally competent are his tribe of coaches, physios et al who did such a good job in preparing the lads last year!

Oh, I just remembered, 2014 was World Cup year so no such preparation was necessary. It showed.

Jim Bennings
16 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:39:11
DonÂ’t forget that we have a potentially phenomenal impact of the unbelievably missed players likes Pienaar, Osman and we can always live off AtsuÂ’s smoke when he eventually "catches fire" in Bournemouth!!

Then off course we have the quite simply "unique talents" of Arouna Kone and the "best young talent in world football", Ross Barkley, to fall back on.

Of course, donÂ’t forget Aiden "twinkle toes magician " McGeady...

With Roberto in charge, who needs new signings?!!!

Brin Williams
17 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:43:52
Phil (#15 ) – "It’s going to be a long, hard summer as Martinez ’bigs up’ his terribly average signings one by one."

Surely you mean Â’as he motivates his signingsÂ’?

If he manages that to full effect, we will be half way there.

Kelvin Thomas
18 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:53:32
Jim, the summer break couldnÂ’t have come sooner for you Sir. It canÂ’t get any worse next year mate!
Thomas Surgenor
19 Posted 28/05/2015 at 09:53:46
Wes (#11), I would have said the polar opposite.

From what IÂ’ve seen of Besic this season, he is capable of switching play with 40/50 yard diagonals. He is also capable of giving it away from a simple 5-yard pass.

But I think his good passes out weigh his simple mistakes. As he matures, he will become a very valuable player for us.

The only thing that bothers me about him and the majority of our squad (Osman, Pienaar, Lennon, Barry, McCarthy, Naismith, McGeady) is that they all seem to have powderpuff shots. Sometimes I get the feeling they are just happy with hitting the target rather than doing it with venom.

Andy Meighan
20 Posted 28/05/2015 at 10:53:24
I havenÂ’t been that impressed if IÂ’m quite honest. Then again, I havenÂ’t been impressed with the whole management team and the players all season... so no wonder IÂ’m always moaning!
James Byrne
21 Posted 28/05/2015 at 10:52:44
Unfortunately Besic will become another victim of the shite football philosophy and shite tactics of this manager.

Martinez has already destroyed the confidence of one of the countryÂ’s most talented youngsters (Barkley) and has made our left / right back attacking force redundant beyond belief.

Besic will get his chance but, like most of our attacking and exciting options, he will be shackled like the others.

Phil Sammon
22 Posted 28/05/2015 at 11:41:28
I like the way youÂ’re itemising the many talking points from the lengthy interview, Lyndon, but I feel like some fans are seeing it as Martinez approaching the media every day grabbing microphones.

I wanted to see more of Besic but the lad himself seems pleased with his development. HeÂ’s come from a relatively poor league to play in the best league in the world and at just 22 I actually think Martinez has done a decent job with him. In fact, I wish heÂ’d have shielded Barkley in a similar manner.

Stephen Brown
23 Posted 28/05/2015 at 11:47:31
I agree with Jim (#12). I remember last summer there were lots of posters writing how Besic was going to be a world beater this season. Do we get world beaters for ٢M from the Hungarian league?

In reality, what we have is a decent player who has done adequately this season. Hopefully he continues to improve and can be a good understudy or challenge to McCarthy! I canÂ’t see them both in the same team as they lack creativity!

The great Â’hopeÂ’ is Gibson getting a run of fitness and forming a partnership with McCarthy.

Tony J Williams
24 Posted 28/05/2015 at 12:55:31
I thought when he first came here he always looked to get the ball forward as soon as possible and would try and run upfield and get the others to follow.

As the season went on and his minutes diminished, so did his forward thinking football.

I was hoping for the best from him but now he looks like a sit in the front of the back four and do fuck all with teh ball kind of player that we have an abundance of now.

Colin Williams
27 Posted 28/05/2015 at 14:03:46
Besic is very good – this lad has a great future with us... and hopefully a candidate for the captain’s armband in next couple of years!

When this lad finds his way and settles in to the Premier League we will find it difficult to keep him away from the so-called elite group of teams.

Dave Lawley
28 Posted 28/05/2015 at 14:24:31
Tony (24) I totally agree with you, I thought he looked fantastic pre-season and looked very dynamic early on, Chelsea error apart. Then, as the season went on, his game seemed to change and he looked less and less like the player I thought he would be which was a box-to-box ankle-biter with a pass in his locker.

I agree with Roberto, he did seem to try too hard; I think this was down to being shackled into the defensive midfield role. With this type of player with energy and enthusiasm, you donÂ’t need a defensive midfielder; you could play him and Barkley together in the middle with 2 up top, remember that! I hate this Â’needÂ’ for a specialist Â’defensive midÂ’.

Clive Rogers
29 Posted 28/05/2015 at 14:28:57
He has shown nothing yet in the last third of the pitch.
Jamie Crowley
31 Posted 28/05/2015 at 14:40:01
Well done, Roberto, gradually introducing this young man in a new country and league into the rigors of English football.

With your possession-based style of play, we can be sure this defensive midfield gem wonÂ’t turn into another English hoof-ball merchant.

Top marks for Roberto and Besic. Roll on son!

Geoffrey Risebrow
36 Posted 28/05/2015 at 15:48:22
I like Mo a lot but he is too similar to James McCarthy and at this moment in time there is only one winner for me (James). We canÂ’t afford to have two players in the middle of the park who donÂ’t score many goals, if any!

For the same reason, we need to gradually phase Gareth Barry out of the team. I was a massive fan of Barry after his first season but the time has come for him to only be used sparingly. We need a box-to-box, goal scoring midfielder next to James. Any suggestions for any players like that out there?

David Hallwood
37 Posted 28/05/2015 at 16:52:02
Trevor (#13) – Alan Harper had a shot on him and so far that’s absent from Besic’s game.

Who can forget the screamer Alan scored at Stamford Bridge in the ’87 season? I won’t as I nearly got killed celebrating it as 15,000 cockneys chased us out of the ground – mind you, I could run then.

Sorry for reminiscing but, if Besic ends up being as good as Harper, weÂ’ll have a footballer on our hands.

Trevor Peers
39 Posted 28/05/2015 at 17:16:32
Harper was a decent player David, but if I remember rightly he could only get into the side if one of our better players was injured.

Maybe we were spoilt in them days having such a great team and Kendall as the manager, and seeing the blues win the league a few times it was heaven.

I feel a bit sorry for my 3 sons because it probably wonÂ’t happen again anytime soon.

Mark Riding
40 Posted 28/05/2015 at 17:34:21
Stephen (#30)... YouÂ’re not on your own.
Keith Harrison
41 Posted 28/05/2015 at 17:38:06
RobertoÂ’s problem is he doesnÂ’t appear to know when to stop with the platitudes. BesicÂ’s problem after a good pre-season was to be brought on at 5-3 down with 2 minutes to go against Chelsea. Of course the lad wanted to try something. Just it back-fired spectacularly!

The manager will be here come the new season, so I for one will be backing him, and hope that the lessons of this season will be learned. I also feel Besic will really come good this year, as the lad IS a footballer.

Trevor Peers
42 Posted 28/05/2015 at 17:46:57
I agree about RobertoÂ’s problem Kieth, heaping praise on young players when there still developing is just stupid and puts added pressure on them.

Why doesnÂ’t some elder statesman (Kendall maybe) at the club tell Roberto to go 3 months without saying anything? And just concentrate on buying the players we need.

Harold Matthews
43 Posted 28/05/2015 at 17:56:12
I like this lad. I think heÂ’s got a good head on his shoulders. Knows his weak spots and is working to put them right. Recently admitted to not yet being physically strong enough for the Premier League and has probably been putting in plenty of gym work. LetÂ’s hope he becomes a well loved Everton player.
Rob Halligan
44 Posted 28/05/2015 at 18:05:32
People who have never played football donÂ’t understand the game, in as much as how a player feels, the mind of a manager, etc. Besic is a young kid, coming from a foreign country to a country heÂ’s probably never been to before, a language he probably couldnÂ’t speak, to play with players heÂ’s probably never met before.

Martinez clearly knows all this and is slowly integrating Besic into the lifestyle of England, English people and also into the squad at Everton. This all takes time. Martinez knows what heÂ’s doing. Basic will be one bell of a player in a couple of years.

Rob Halligan
45 Posted 28/05/2015 at 18:31:33
Besic cost ٢m. Absolute buttons for a 22-year-old international midfielder, who performed well at a World Cup. WeÂ’re talking about getting ٢m for Garbutt. WhoÂ’s done NOTHING yet at the same age.
Keith Harrison
46 Posted 28/05/2015 at 18:36:43
Correct Rob, although I would rather have both tbh. Time for another poll Lyndon - Besic, yes or no? And please nobody post "Is Roberto signing a Pole, havenÂ’t we got enough here?" etc etc.
Phil Walling
47 Posted 28/05/2015 at 18:32:52
I donÂ’t feel Mo is any better or any worse than when he first appeared. I donÂ’t get excited when he comes on but neither am I apprehensive. As yet, heÂ’s rarely played a whole game so itÂ’s hard to make a judgement.

Let the kid find his way in the Prem by giving him a few more starts next season even if it means sacrificing the experience of Â’the irreplaceable BarryÂ’.

To be fair to Martinez, he has afforded ample opportunity to Barkley and it hasnÂ’t paid off. Yet. But then, he canÂ’t be expected to be fielding kids all over the team at the same time.

Trevor Peers
48 Posted 28/05/2015 at 18:43:58
Rob, I can only compare him with past excellent mid-fielders that have played for us. Reid, Bracewell, Sheedy, and even recently Cahill and Arteta. I canÂ’t see Besic ever developing into a player of that stature. IÂ’d put him along side Mick Buckley or John Eberell.

How much he cost is irrelevant really, If they have the talent it will be obvious for all to see, waiting for years for him to develop may pay off but rarely does. If your good enough your old enough in my book.

Darren Hind
49 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:09:09
Trevor.
HeÂ’s a different type of player to Sheedy, Cahill and Arteta so youÂ’re wasting your time trying to compare him to them.

If he ends up being nearly as good as Bracewell (before the injury) IÂ’ll be delighted, but to be honest all IÂ’ve seen so far is a tackling machine with very little creativity.

Let's hope there is more to come

Lyndon Lloyd
50 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:11:42
As Evertonians, our high standards are one of the things that sets us apart but there are limits to the expectations you should put on a 22-year-old playing his first season in a different league (arguably the toughest to adapt to) in a foreign country and in a new position.

How anyone can definitively state (as some have above) that heÂ’s no better than x, y or z player who is much older and more experienced beggars belief. Give the lad a chance, FFS.

As Thomas (19) says, from what I have seen, "As he matures, he will become a very valuable player for us." That’s my opinion but it’s far too early so say for sure either way. It’s certainly too soon to write him off – can’t we just wait and see rather than using him as another opportunity to have a go at Martinez?

Rob Halligan
51 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:15:39
All the players you mention Trevor, were completely different types of midfielders. Out of them I would say Besic could fall into the same category as Peter Reid. The tenacious ball winner, feeding the more creative midfielder such as bracewell was for Reidy, or arteta was. Given time, Besic could become our modern day Peter Reid.
Trevor Peers
53 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:22:02
Stature I meant Rob, I wasnÂ’t comparing him in a positional sense. The lad has never been in the side long enough to determine his best position.
Brin Williams
54 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:27:14
LL Â’canÂ’t we just wait and see rather than using him as another opportunity to have a go at Martinez?Â’

This is what I find most disagreeable - whatever the post is about it always ends up anti Martinez - stick to the title, as Lyndon says, FFS!!

Lyndon Lloyd
55 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:37:23
We try to discourage threads being taken off-topic by people whining about the site or other members but itÂ’s driving me mad, Brin.

I donÂ’t want to belabour the point too much but the post by Jim Bennings (who I think may hold the TW record for anti-Martinez comments) above (12) is a case in point when it comes to the myopia that exists sometimes:

He canÂ’t create or score and his shot against Spurs on Sunday was about only his second goal attempt all season.

Besic had five shots in the WBA home game alone.

Darren Hind
57 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:32:22
There appears to be growing Tendency for people to claim every subject is being treated as an opportunity to beat Martinez, Yet whenever I look at the posts preceding these claims itÂ’s hardly ever true.

The interview is with Martinez, so heÂ’s highly likely to figure in the thread... but heÂ’s hardly being murdered.

ItÂ’s a decent thread, guys, let it take its course.

Lyndon Lloyd
58 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:49:24
Some people (a minority, obviously) are treating every thread as an opportunity to bash Martinez, though, Darren, and itÂ’s becoming tiresome.
Patrick Murphy
60 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:56:55
I agree that sometimes, some people do bang the anti-Martinez drum a little too often and a little too loudly but Roberto does often feel the need to bang the drum a little too often and a little too loudly about his own players. He works with them every day of the week and surely they realise what he thinks of their abilities on a personal level.

When they take to the field it is up to them to show the fans whether or not they deserve to be in the team. I would ask Mr Martinez to allow his players to show their skills out on the pitch, the fans will use that to judge whether or not they are suitable to play for Everton and no amount of talk will change their minds. Sometimes it feels as if the manager is trying to convince the fans that they are not seeing what he is seeing.

As for Besic I was expecting a little more from him, but he does have time on his side and he obviously has some real ability which we all hope to see a lot more of in the future once he has acclimatised to the unique demands of the English Premier League.

Dean Adams
61 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:13:52
Patrick. In BobbyÂ’s situation, where he is obligated to talk to the press on an almost daily basis, what would you want him to say? Consider the fact that the press rarely print what you actually say and are always putting a heavy negative spin on EFC due to the love-fest they have with the redshite!!
Patrick Murphy
62 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:23:41
Dean - A little less than this: "HeÂ’s an outstanding character," Martinez said in last weekÂ’s meeting with the Everton fan sites. "HeÂ’s just so impressive. Remember heÂ’s played 30 games this season, which is the greatest number of games heÂ’s ever had in professional football. HeÂ’s only 22."

"When I saw him in the World Cup I knew that he was an Everton player because he would play with his heart. He is someone who is technically really, really skillful. He can keep the ball, he can see a pass off the ball. HeÂ’s as good as you get defensively."

Jamie Crowley
63 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:23:45
Joe Foster @ 34 -

Not sarcasm. I meant every word.

I do freely admit to attempting to wind up a bit with the praise, but frankly IÂ’m just sick to the teeth of the Roberto bashing...

I think in this instance heÂ’s done marvelous with Besic and I see a ton of talent and hope in this kid.

I admittedly would have liked to have seen him play more in lieu of Barry - but understand RobertoÂ’s holding him back a bit.

Tim Greeley
64 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:28:53
This time last year there were persistent rumors that Arsenal were interested in Gareth Barry. I doubt that remains with the emergence of Coquellin but damnit if I donÂ’t want to see the barge end of Barry out of Everton ASAP somehow.

Figure he might take a part-time role for one more shot in the Champs League...maybe.

Anyway, RM was so thrilled he sat for the last two months!?

Let the Bosnian play!!

Dean Adams
65 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:30:50
Patrick. That sounds absolutely fine to me. I would hate a manager to start saying that our younger element were useless thugs and lacked any ability!!
Colin Glassar
66 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:30:24
Taking into consideration various factors such as; Mo is a CB, not a MF player, he came from a crap team in a crap league, heÂ’s never played in the PL etc.... I think heÂ’s done phenomenally well.
Darren Hind
68 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:29:10
YouÂ’re right of course, Lyndon, but it works both ways, Take post 31, clearly a deliberate (but not very subtle) attempt to provoke and wind up those who donÂ’t rate Martinez.

The season is over, Martinez is probably on his jollies. He isnÂ’t doing anything to suddenly warrant praise or criticism. IÂ’m not sure why he is getting either.

I would say these pages reflect the general mood of Evertonia pretty accurately, Martinez receives as much praise as he does criticism.

Michael Winstanley
69 Posted 28/05/2015 at 19:31:22
I think itÂ’ll be too early to start Besic next season but I think heÂ’ll develop as a player and perhaps the season after next he might be our first choice. From the little IÂ’ve seen he needs to affect the game when he/we donÂ’t have the ball, something Gaz Baz is pretty good at.

I do see a proper footballer in him though and that excites me. And I would have to agree with Lyndon, Martinez couldnÂ’t blood inexperienced youngsters all over the pitch, Besic will get his chance.

Andy Walker
70 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:50:03
HeÂ’s has had such a good season that he wasnÂ’t being picked by his smoke and mirrors manager for most games in the last quarter of the season.

More phenomenal rubbish spouted by the incompetent in charge.

When is the penny going to drop in some folks heads?

Peter Fearon
71 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:33:45
No matter what Martinez does there is the usual chorus of over the top nonsense from the nabobs of negativity. If he takes Barkley off early he is destroying his confidence. If he compliments a player he’s "bigging up" mediocre signings. Fans who admire Besic refuse to give Martinez credit for signing him. You only have to listen to – actually listen to – his press conference with the independent fan sites to hear an eloquent and rational account of what went wrong this past season.

As for Besic, he is talented but has some serious flaws which no degree of inexplicable "cult hero" status will fix. He is never far from a yellow card. He gives the ball away in dangerous positions too often. He lingers too deep. I trust he will improve as he gains experience but I donÂ’t expect any improvement will be credited to MartinezÂ’s coaching.

Jamie Crowley
72 Posted 28/05/2015 at 20:44:33
Remove the word "English" at post 31 and thereÂ’s no wind up at all. Maybe a bit over the top (debatable but IÂ’ll give you that Darren), but the constant drum of "Roberto Sucks" is just getting repetitive and in my opinion lacks patience, foresight, vision, and frankly basic knowledge of how to run an organization. You donÂ’t change leaders and managers every time thereÂ’s a poor situation. You stay the course and see if they have the fortitude, intelligence, and talent to improve. I believe Martinez does. I pray for so many of you that your boss at work is so much more patient with you than you are with Roberto.

Martinez has done a very good job handling Besic. Besic has had a very good inaugural season and surely will improve and take more of a role as he ages and gains experience.

Andy Walker
78 Posted 28/05/2015 at 21:11:10
Thing is our leader is not running a small family business, heÂ’s responsible for the success or otherwise, of 𧴜M+ business and for me he simply doesnÂ’t demonstrate the skills needed at this ultra-high competitive level. Skills In terms of results and also communication.
Paul Jeronovich
80 Posted 28/05/2015 at 21:17:58
I like Mo; I think heÂ’ll have a good season next year.
Colin Gee
82 Posted 28/05/2015 at 21:25:53
Mo just gets better and better every time I see him play.
He just needs to add goals to his game.
Alan Bodell
83 Posted 28/05/2015 at 21:48:11
Besic is quality and has an engine and I really rate him to get with Jimmy Mac. (Barry warm up you coming off with your yellow card.)

One creative midfielder with these and we can do damage but Barry ... Mr Misplaced Pass – please go and do one somewhere else.

Andy Crooks
85 Posted 28/05/2015 at 22:39:50
I think Besic will be a very useful player and I actually think Martinez has done well with him.

Peter, it is so clearly a matter of opinion based on our starting point; you thought the interview was eloquent and rational, I absolutely disagree with that.

Nicholas Ryan
86 Posted 28/05/2015 at 23:18:16
71. Â’...nabobs of negativity...Â’ Wonderful!
Sondre Haga
87 Posted 29/05/2015 at 01:20:47
Mo could well prove to be a piece of phenemonal business. And when he fullfills his real talent next season, he will be like a new signing. That is incredible to think about.
Martin Mason
88 Posted 29/05/2015 at 07:59:13
Andy @78

Surely the board are responsible for running the business and RM is only head coach.

Michael Polley
89 Posted 29/05/2015 at 09:20:59
Got potential, but needs more game time. My only concern is that he has a tendency to get booked which can make him a liability, and curtail his influence on a game
Bob Parrington
90 Posted 29/05/2015 at 10:16:32
Michael Polley (#89), You’ve solved the riddle – they’re grooming Mo to replace Barry – yes but everybody has misunderstood in what role. It’s not the mf position – it’s in the yellow card race. Surely nobody can catch Barry on this score.

Lyndon #50. Fair cop I reckon but RM really seems to set himself up for it. He doesnÂ’t actually fill us all with confidence!
Phil Walling
91 Posted 29/05/2015 at 10:45:23
I just wish these kids could be left to build their careers and reputations on the field of play rather than be exaggeration fodder for our verbose manager. Neither Mo, Ross, Stones, Garbutt nor Galloway will be improved by ’bulling them up’. They are what they are and will make it – or not – in spite of, not because of, constant hype from the guy who is in charge of training them.
Amit Vithlani
92 Posted 29/05/2015 at 11:22:39
Very much like this lad and a good acquisition by Martinez. I donÂ’t care that he is being bigged up but he should see more game time next season to develop his all round game. His tendency to pick up Yellow cards is a little Fellaini-like, but once Mo Fro settled into the team and the game his disciplinary record improved significantly. Besic probably needs the same consistent run in the side, as a first choice ahead of Barry.
Geoffrey Risebrow
93 Posted 29/05/2015 at 16:08:22
I love Mo Besic. I hope he goes on to become a top midfielder for Everton for many years to come.
Dave Pritchard
94 Posted 29/05/2015 at 18:11:28
Besic is a promising player although definitely not the great player that some believe him to be. Not yet anyway and I will hope to be proven wrong on this. He will hopefully have learnt a lot from his first season. Not sure where he fits in best though. Probably a replacement for Barry although with 2 years to go on his contract (GBÂ’s) will Besic get that much game time next season?
Barry Jones
95 Posted 02/06/2015 at 19:27:33
Like many managers today, Martinez likes a 4-2-3-1 formation, essentially playing five in midfield with two holding deep. Besic has been deployed as a holding midfielder. Like Rob (#51), I see some comparison to Peter Reid.

A good team needs this type of player. Mo is tenacious and he covers a lot of ground. He has a winnerÂ’s mentality. I like him a lot but he is like an unpolished gem. He needs to tidy up his passing and decision making, which will only come with time and more games.


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