The Welsh, seeking a place in the finals pf a major tournament for the first time since 1958, took the lead when Gareth Bale capitalised on an awful error by Nainggolan.
Hal Robson-Kanu almost made it 2-0 but he could only smack a first-time shot just past the post after a good save by Thibault Courtois but a poor clearance by Toby Alderweireld.
Lukaku came off the bench partner Aston Villa's Christian Benteke as Marc Wilmots went for a two-pronged attack in the second half but neither forward got a sniff of an equaliser.
Lukaku's Everton teammate Kevin Mirallas was also named as a substitute but did not see any action as Belgium were knocked off the top of the qualifying group B after this result.
Meanwhile, Muhamed Besic played the full 90 minutes as Bosnia and Herzegovina registered a 3-1 win over Israel in Zenica.
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1 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:09:50
Rom has been introduced but so far he just trots about on the pitch, nothing new there I suppose. Just shows that passion does a hell of a lot for you in football, Wales have it in abundance, as for Belgium?? IÂm still not convinced by their attitude or application to work as a team, too many inflated egos and not prepared to role up their sleeves, much like the Dutch.
CanÂt get my head around how two big physical specimens in Benteke and Lukaku can be so half-hearted in everything they do. I have said it before about Rom: he just doesnÂt have that hunger or fire in his belly to make it to the very very top, IÂm not bothered about Benteke he doesnÂt play for us, but Lukaku?? ...the lad's lack of effort seriously needs looking at.
2 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:28:14
4 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:32:31
5 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:39:05
6 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:40:49
7 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:42:59
The Welsh forward who hasnÂt got a great deal in his locker ran his socks off for his team as did the whole of the Welsh team. Deserved win for the Welsh and as usual the Belgians bottled it. What does it say about Mirallas if he canÂt even get onto the pitch?
8 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:49:34
9 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:45:02
Mourinho knew something was just not there with Lukaku, something just not right for a player that everyone keeps harping on about as "potential".
10 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:50:11
Talk all you want Rom, but if you're not prepared to put the effort in, you will never get anywhere near where you think you should be.
11 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:56:04
He wasnÂt the only one but, when you consider that he and Benteke have a combined value of circa 㿨M, there is something very wrong with their attitudes and / or with the game itself.
12 Posted 12/06/2015 at 21:55:07
I read today that Spurs are interested in bringing Llorente to the Premier League... maybe we could throw our hat in the ring?
13 Posted 12/06/2015 at 22:13:54
14 Posted 12/06/2015 at 22:25:36
15 Posted 13/06/2015 at 00:05:29
I really donÂt know why he keeps running his mouth.
17 Posted 13/06/2015 at 01:48:17
18 Posted 13/06/2015 at 02:08:14
Contrast his performance with that of Mo Besic for Bosnia. The little guy ran his heart out for his country as did most of his teammates. The Belgians seemed to think they only had to turn up to win.
Vastly overrated and no wonder FIFA is in such a mess when this team is ranked in the top two in the world. I wouldnÂt even place a team like that in the top ten!
19 Posted 13/06/2015 at 03:13:14
For the record, I'm not really a Lukaku fan, for many of the reasons mentioned above (poor first touch, lazy, doesn't win headers, etc) and I feel that, if a decent offer came in, we should take it.
The lad rates himself too highly and he has no right to.
I'd love to sign a new first-choice striker and give him a challenge to truly be number one.
Charlie Austin would be my first choice as he can head, use both feet, and works his socks off. He'd cost half the price of Lukaku and is more of a team player. Maybe then, Rom would pull his finger out and we could pair them up. Javier Hernandez would also be worth a punt, maybe on loan.
We are certainly short of quality and options up top.
20 Posted 13/06/2015 at 03:19:09
Understandable, I suppose. HeÂs been a big disappointment this season and his utterings to the press have done nothing to endear him to the fans. Next season is looking very likely to begin under a very gloomy cloud. If we donÂt get off to a flyer, it could all turn very sour, very quickly.
The only way I could muster any sort of optimism for the upcoming season is to see at least two signings that will improve our starting eleven. I canÂt see that happening. Option two is to sack the manager... but thatÂs obviously not on the cards either.
So letÂs all moan and whinge and accept that the inevitable will drag on for another 4 months at least. Sigh.
21 Posted 13/06/2015 at 04:11:53
Lukaku has scored a significant amount of goals given his age. Why don't you guys try supporting, instead of criticising, him? If a Lukaku, who managed 32 Prem goals in 49? starts before he turned 21, scored so effectively without any first touch control etc, what could he achieve when he improves technically?
(And donÂt give me bullshit about players donÂt improve technically... they do, and they do it all the time). What was the Drogba he is so often compared doing at 22? Actually, do you remember DrogbaÂs performances and touch when he first came to this league?
Lukaku has only just turned 22. He is a kid, and his confidence is low. WeÂve utterly failed to play to his strengths this season. When his confidence is up, his touch improves, as does that of any player. He is the best striker weÂve had in a very long time, and one of the most important young players at the club.
I just donÂt understand the reasoning of fans who look to criticise their own players at every opportunity. And itÂs not just because a player, a 21-year-old at the time, discussed his ambitions. The same things happened with Hibbert and Osman over several years, and they are as loyal as they come.
There is a peculiar and aggressive negativity in these forums at times Â– I do not see the point of it. If you want to criticise someone, criticise the manager under whom both Barkley and Lukaku have gone backwards because he has refused to play to their strengths.
22 Posted 13/06/2015 at 05:05:54
Though I agree with the general thrust of your argument, you canÂt possibly tell people they cannot criticise ÂxÂ but may criticise ÂyÂ. A lot of people, justly, question LukakuÂs ability and commitment.
23 Posted 13/06/2015 at 05:54:30
He had some rank performances and a few excellent ones last season, and when fired up is a superb striker. When he is off the boil, he stinks. However, next season he needs to step it up for us on a regular basis, particularly in the league, where we need him to impose his strength.
The comparison with Anichebe is ludicrous. Lukaku is a much better finisher. His record does not compare with AnichebeÂs.
24 Posted 13/06/2015 at 07:22:49
If we can get close to our money back we should get rid, even if there just may be a great striker in there somewhere.
HeÂs not Everton, so hopefully this OTT agent could do us a favour.
25 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:04:30
Most talented striker weÂve had in decades, but stuck in a team forced to play slow possessions football that is full of passing among the back four. But IÂm sure that his substitute appearance is totally to blame for BelgiumÂs result. Yeah, that makes total sense.
26 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:05:34
Now, apparently, heÂs lazy, canÂt trap a ball, canÂt run, yet is still our best goalscorer for ages, but some people on here want shut!
Fickle, yes we really are.
27 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:17:49
The comparison with Anichebe is not goal wise, itÂs the same traits in personality: he doesnÂt like getting hurt, he doesnÂt run or get involved enough... and, for a man of his unique physical strength, he doesnÂt bully defenders.
It does not improve with age, just look at Anichebe.
ItÂs the lad's personality to be half-interested.
28 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:27:59
29 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:35:20
Get off Big Rom's back, for all his downfalls, I still want him to succeed and regain his first season form.
30 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:39:49
Certainly that is true of the two in our team. We can never be sure how the will feel Âon the dayÂ. But itÂs not as though they were on big money last night, so too much to expect they should put in a shift for their country, isnÂt it ?
31 Posted 13/06/2015 at 08:37:28
Jim, your support for Lukaku has always been admirable, but when you say "what could he achieve when he improves technically", well, heÂs been here for two seasons and his technical ability has not improved and his attitude and commitment have got worse. His much criticised first touch is no better or arguably worse than when he joined us on loan. If players DO improve technically "all the time", itÂs way past the time when he should have started to look like a 㿈M man.
When we signed him, you and I had a discussion as to his merits in which I said I was pleased that heÂd signed but felt that weÂd been shafted by Chelsea by having to pay so much for him. I still feel the same. I see little in his game to make me think that heÂll emulate Drogba and agree that he resembles Anichebe more than his hero Didier. And by that I mean by comparing his attitude with that of AnichebeÂs, not necessarily his talent.
I would really love Lukaku to be the player we want him to be but itÂs up to him to improve his game (if he can!) and up to him to improve his attitude and respect for the club and fans, starting with keeping his mouth shut. He may be "only 22", "a kid" but thatÂs old enough to show respect for people.
Unfortunately he seems to believe his own publicity, or, at least, believes the Thin Spanish Waiter who states that heÂll become the worldÂs best striker. And when that tubby little upstart of an agent implies that heÂs too good for Everton maybe heÂs started to believe that too.
His scoring statistics look good but until or unless we have a manager who can get the best out of him and play a system that suits him heÂll carry on looking the lump that he often does. So Martinez must shoulder SOME of the blame and time will tell if Martinez has the technical nous to improve his game.
Interestingly, George Green has been binned at 19, despite being lauded as the next best thing, so maybe attitudes and ability are not always thought to improve sufficiently to hang on to a talent.
Incidentally, the Wales game was shown here in Wales at 22:30 so it was possible for Brian to watch both games...
32 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:26:57
33 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:27:22
A new low, even for these message boards.
34 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:39:53
35 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:46:16
36 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:52:16
He has pace and strength and can finish occasionally. He has very little technical ability and poor positional sense. HeÂll end up being one of those players by virtue of his size at a young age that did well in his teens but faded into obscurity.
37 Posted 13/06/2015 at 10:03:12
I couldn't believe it when we agreed on 㿈 mill for him. There will always be more games where he disappoints than satisfies.
And as for learning things like first touch as he gets older, believe me, if you don't have it when you are 22, then you will never have it. I see kids at the school I work at with a better touch every day. You get to be a PL player because you have what it takes. You don't start learning when you get there!
38 Posted 13/06/2015 at 10:40:44
"He doesnÂt like getting hurt." Â– I take it you are referring to the same Lukaku who knocked himself out whilst scoring his first goal for our club?
Some of the self-deluded, attention-seeking comments here are unbelievable.
Steve Hogan (26) agreed. In August of last year, it seemed to be all of our dreams came true when we signed Lukaku permanently; now that the lad has had a less than stellar season, and apparently he is half-arsed, canÂt trap a ball, canÂt get into space, and lacks courage.
Get behind the lad. No he hasnÂt looked the same player in the season just gone, IÂm sure both him and Martinez know that better than anyone (in spite of what may be said in public). They will be the better judge of what went wrong last season than we will ever be. It amazes me that people who, IÂm assuming, have never even met the lad, label his personality as "half-interested".
I wonder if Romelu turned up at some of your workplaces, if he would label you as half-arsed, overweight, and half-interested. Possibly.
39 Posted 13/06/2015 at 11:26:01
However, that doesnÂt mean that people canÂt describe or react to how they viewed his performance in any particular game either for Everton or for Belgium. ItÂs not as if his performance was an isolated blip for him he has produced many more of those type of performances in an Everton shirt and that is what his critics are worried about.
When any team visits Goodison next season and sits back as has been the case many times, Lukaku will be found wanting. For those who say that it is the manager's fault or the tactics employed then have a look at how many crosses were put in last night by the Belgians and how many occasions Lukaku looked like getting on the end of them.
He is a forward that has to be spoon-fed inside the penalty area and few teams are going to give him the space he requires inside or outside of the area. Latchford was similar to Rom in that he didnÂt move a great deal but, when he did, it was with purpose and desire and he was always on the alert for the half-chance. Lukaku is more Yakubu than Latchford: moody, self-centred and not a team player. Forget about his age and price-tag Â– a striker should be an asset to the team, not a liability; at the moment, Rom is the latter.
Unfortunately there is nothing about his attitude and general demeanour that suggests that he will radically alter and therefore we should be prepared to see even more of last night's Romelu rather than the one we had hoped to see when we signed him.
40 Posted 13/06/2015 at 12:02:32
41 Posted 13/06/2015 at 12:05:20
Craig, I donÂt see any "self-deluded, attention-seeking comments" on here, only fans who can see, and are prepared to comment on, the shortcomings of our record transfer player.
We all, IÂm sure, want Lukaku to do well while heÂs here. He always comes across as intelligent and well educated and is no doubt a very nice chap off the field. But itÂd be better if he were to put as much effort into his game as he does these days in telling every man and his dog that he deserves a top Champions League club. A club similar to the one that sold him..
Incidentally, if you consider Lukaku up to Premier League standards regarding his "first touch", then one might suggest that itÂs you who is deluding himself.
42 Posted 13/06/2015 at 12:12:10
Maybe Lukaku could consider that?
43 Posted 13/06/2015 at 09:25:59
WeÂve all got a frightening list of his deficiencies but heÂs more comfortable up on his own for us and I expect him to have a decent season. His assets are pace, power, a great left foot and a very strong desire to score goals. Forced to play whilst carrying various injuries, last seasonÂs League tally was way below his loan season. Hopefully this was just a temporary blip.
Studying him closely, he still has the same first touch as Naismith but there have been slight improvements to his overall game. His last goal looked a simple header from a McGeady cross but Barry Horne noted how he completely fooled the centre back as he made room for himself. Nothing to get too excited about but someone is telling him things and heÂs listening.
We have an awful amount of cash invested in this lad. Like him or not, we need him to succeed and I pray he has the drive and determination to get where he thinks he belongs.
44 Posted 13/06/2015 at 12:57:18
I never rated him, and yes, Charlie Austin would be a great signing.
45 Posted 13/06/2015 at 13:18:00
My point is, some fans have seemingly judged the ladÂs footballing credentials on one admittedly poor season.
He needs time, and we have fans need some patience. Proven top quality strikers under the age of 23 in the premier league are a very rare breed. Rom has only had three full seasons in the premier league, and itÂs hard to argue that in two of those (WBA loan and first year with us) he was an outstanding success.
46 Posted 13/06/2015 at 13:56:50
47 Posted 13/06/2015 at 13:59:21
Tony Cheek nails it for me with his comments re Rom's first touch, something that you should have at the outset, not something you should have to learn at this level.
I repeat, I would love Rom to be the player we want and need but to be that, HE has to want to be that player. And he shows little backbone for that fight at this moment.
I wonder if, if football had a system whereby young players would only receive, say, 25% of their pay with the rest invested or in trust, or even only paid when they have provided us with the performances we have paid for, if then we would see young players give the 100% we expect from them every week, instead of only on the days when their mind is on the job in hand and not on their next gold Bentley...
48 Posted 13/06/2015 at 14:15:08
49 Posted 13/06/2015 at 14:29:45
50 Posted 13/06/2015 at 15:11:22
People say Lukaku is learning the game and he will be one of the world greatest strikers on a few years but it can work the opposite way also, players young with potential can deteriorate and not live up to expectations, remember Jeffers, Rodwell??.
It could be me but I think the Lukaku you see now is the one you are going to roughly remain with.
51 Posted 13/06/2015 at 16:09:53
Do you think that would bother him?
I ask the question because as you keep pointing out, what good is it having all the credentials if you havenÂt got enough desire?
I know heÂs young and I know heÂs got a very good goalscoring record for his age, but you only improve with hard work. LetÂs hope after playing football for nearly two years without a proper rest, this kid can now have a little break from the game and can analyse for himself where he has got to improve.
52 Posted 13/06/2015 at 16:51:49
53 Posted 13/06/2015 at 19:13:40
54 Posted 13/06/2015 at 20:47:04
Comments on a poor performance are perfectly justified by his poor performance vs Wales, that even his manager lambasted. Labeling them "self-deluded and attention-seeking" is totally unwarranted and frankly insulting.
If you wish to take the long view, do so by all means, thatÂs your prerogative... but do not please come here and post blanket condemnations of what are perfectly reasonable assessments of yet another lousy performance by our Champions League wannabe.
55 Posted 13/06/2015 at 20:57:35
56 Posted 13/06/2015 at 21:28:41
However, balanced with that, we know injuries played a part for him last season, and I suspect fatigue played a much bigger part than even he would of realised. He had been playing football virtually continuously since he joined us as our number one striker Â– which meant that, when fit, he was invariably selected Â– then he went away to the World Cup (initially anyway!) as BelgiumÂs Number One striker. Coupled with the extra games from our Europa League campaign, and Romelu hasnÂt played so much football before in his young career in such a short space of time, all with the pressure of having to provide the goals for club and country.
I think Lukaku is so desperate to prove himself as a top striker (and to an extent, having to live up to his own hype he had created in season 2013-14) he perhaps doesnÂt see that he could do with a break. Playing in an under-performing team this season of course doesnÂt help either.
Apologies if my comments were misconstrued as a blanket assessment Â– it certainly wasnÂt, just aimed at a few individual posts. What I canÂt get past and what makes me angry is some comments attacking his courage on the pitch (when there is obvious evidence otherwise) or the ladÂs personality, which go way below the belt.
By all means, comment on what we see of him on the football pitch.
57 Posted 14/06/2015 at 00:26:08
And now the fact that he has ambitions of playing in the Champions League is being used as a stick to beat him with.
Oh for a squad of "yeah IÂm happy to be perennially mid table" journeymen!
58 Posted 14/06/2015 at 15:37:48
Look at it this way, when you met your missus, if you said to her, "Yeah, youÂll do until I can pull some bird with bigger tits" I imagine youÂd be trying to retrieve your bollocks from a waste bin....
59 Posted 14/06/2015 at 23:59:47
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