Report: Everton not interested in selling Coleman

Then sell Coleman at the end of next season if these two can move into that position whilst getting a maximum fee for him due to having a much better season than the last and in the process keeping his value or maybe increasing it. By then Martinez will know how much he would be willing to pay for Januzaj or whether he wants him and a swap-plus-cash deal might be worth it.

Alternatively just tell them to jog on!!!

Slap a 㿊M price tag on him and see if theyÂ’ll bite.

I like Coleman. He is a good lad and a very effective player at his best. I am not keen on selling anybody at the moment, I donÂ’t think we need the money BUT... If he wants to go, and at 26 the offer of playing for United and CL football may be a big temptation, then I feel that if we got close to 㿀m for him it would be good for all parties. He has had an indifferent year and of all positions, RB would be one where I am sure we will find an adequate replacement.

Also this may be our opportunity to go for a top quality centre half or fund the acquisition of a new goalkeeper or a midfield playermaker. Reality is full backs donÂ’t win matches, these two do...

I am not so sure about Delboy after his stint at Seville. I do hope I am wrong and that he really boosts the Everton offence or at least puts pressure on Naismith and Mirallas.

Everton do have good options down the right with Seamus backing up Mirallas and now Dellboy but in midfield you have to keep possession and not give up the ball cheaply like they were last season which put a lot of pressure on the back four.

The passing from Barry, McCarthy and Co has to improve.

I cannot see Januzai fitting in when they already have wing players unless they are going to let other players like McGeady and Pienaar go.

The truth of the matter is Coleman will be gone if we get a bid approaching 㿅M, even though thatÂ’s pretty optimistic. ItÂ’ll be more like 㿀M.

I agree with Sam Hoare that Jenkinson from Arsenal will be more than an adequate as a replacement – that’s if he fancies us over West Ham, which is debatable with the kind of players they’re going in for... which coincidently seems to be the same market of players we’re looking at.

If Coleman would "rebuff" a dramatic increase in wages.

He finds Lennon signed to be forward of him or one of Deulofeu/McGeady/Naismith. Who that guy is likely would have a fair influence on James altering his "indifferent" form.

We did it with Baines a year ago... so why not do the same now?

Off load the deadwood, yes... but we have to keep the core of our side in place. WeÂ’ve shown some level of our intent by bringing in Del Boy and Cleverley, and more to come, apparently, so now is not the time to listen to offers for any of our first choice defenders, an area we need to really bolster for the coming season.

No way must Coleman or any of the Â’automaticÂ’ first-choice players be allowed to leave during the summer transfer window. Losing him would simply destroy our credibility as serious challengers for a top six place.

If silly money comes in for one of our players, not in the core positions, we have to consider it and I would seriously consider cashing in on Baines in particular this year should there be any offers for a 30 year old (I think) full back.

Our full backs were irrelevant for the most part last season, except where they were culpable for conceding goals and, given they donÂ’t provide the same ammunition and attacking thrust in MartinezÂ’ system as they did in the Moyes regime, we may just as well sell and procure cheaper fullbacks who are better at defending.

People have to be realistic about our profile and standing in the division, we are not a Â’selling clubÂ’ and this isnÂ’t about a lack of ambition but purely financial pragmatism.

In order to drive our club forward we have to showcase players in the Premier League and sell them for profit to buy better ones.

If Roberto Martinez doesnÂ’t want to sell Coleman to United all he has to do is pick up the phone to Van Gaal and say Â’Louis, donÂ’t bother making offers for Seamus this year, yeahÂ’ (thatÂ’s how he talks).

Therefore I question the reason for this insider story. It appears to emanate from the Echo which means one of two things in my opinion:

1) ItÂ’s a slow Everton news day and lazy Echo journos are filling column inches by commenting on stories from the Guardian (who report Coleman is on LVGÂ’s list).

2) Everton Â’leakedÂ’ the story to invite speculation over a player they consider to be of peak value and expendable.

Sometimes these Â’X is not for saleÂ’ pieces really mean X is for sale and the managers are just using the media as Exchange and Mart.

DM left because he was totally frustrated with the lack of financial support. He had a job for life with us if he continued to toe the line and kept us in the Premier League. Martinez will either continue this or follow Moyes out of the door. If this is not obvious to the fans then they are wearing blinkers.

So far we have taken Cleverley on a free and paid buttons for Deulofeu in a strange deal with Barcelona. We have off-loaded Distin and Alcaraz. We have been outspent by the likes of West Ham who are also bidding for Ogbonna.

I for one am not as happy as some who seem to think that Delboy will bring us success. We should be going for Delph who is a snip at anything around 㾶 million instead of which we are still looking for stop-gap loans.

If this situation is satisfactory to the fans then get that club motto changed as fast as possible because we are certainly not living up to it.

Personally IÂ’m of the view that we donÂ’t sell Seamus at any price. However, in the end, itÂ’s probably going to be down to Seamus whether he goes or not if Man Utd do make an offer. Hopefully he will decide to stay a Blue for a while longer if they do.

Hopefully,we can add Lennon and Kagawa and 1 CB and 1 striker to this mix and we potentially have one of the strongest squads that we have had for a long time. Given that we donÂ’t have the distraction of Europe this season, we should go all out to win one of the League Cup/FA Cup and and really target a Top 4 finish.

We need to stand firm as we did with Fellaini and Baines. Every player has a price and itÂ’s very difficult to keep them if they are determined to leave, but we now have enough financial stability so that we donÂ’t need to be the Lidl for the CL teams.

IÂ’d personally take 㾻M with Hernandez thrown in – cash-wise, I wouldnÂ’t sell for less than 㿀M. That would buy us a decent replacement and money to go towards the attacking CM and CF we so need.

Either way, we really donÂ’t need a long drawn-out affair where we eventually sell before the season starts and end up with no replacement. I really canÂ’t see us getting Luke Shaw money and donÂ’t believe we have such financial strength to be refusing a good offer where we could strengthen elsewhere.

We should look to keep the best, and sell only the ones not important to the first eleven, or who officially request a transfer (And then for the right fee). If we did sell Coleman, we will create a serious problem in the squad. At the moment, Stones is our primary right back replacement, and he is one of only 2 senior CBs in the squad. Browning is not and may never be ready, and Hibbert is done. If we sell him, where are we getting an adequate replacement? we will weaken the right back spot, in the hope of strengthening the team, in a risky attempt at fantasy football that would rob us of one of our best players. We cannot advance with this approach to football, not anymore. We could in the past, when we had multiple weak areas, and when a big transfer fee lead to a marked increase in the ability of our team. But if we get 20million, where will it go? I would argue that the only player that we will realistically bid for, in view of giving them a regular place in the starting eleven, is a creative midfielder. ThatÂ’s where the weakness lies, but should we really sell one of our best players to then buy another right back, who will have no real back up (a risk for a player who may or may not perform) and a creative midfielder?

Liverpool and Spurs have demonstrated the problems with selling your better/best players, and then reinvesting money. IÂ’m especially reticent with Martinez, instead of Moyes, at the helm.

I think we should accept bids for the fringe players. Someone may want Pienaar, and that would be an understandable sale. Someone may even want McGeady (I live in hope). But we should keep the important ones. I still think we have enough in the kitty to fund deals for the CB and creative mid we need (at least we do if we let Pienaar go, as I anticipate we will), which we can hopefully supplement with another CB and striker on loan.

I agree with that, Drew, and the "cheaper full back who is better at defending" is already at the club – Tony Hibbert.

If we keep selling people at their peak (drops in form excepted), then weÂ’ll never peak.

At the end of the day heÂ’s given us great service and we only paid 㿨k for him so selling for a massive profit is fine for both sides.

I understand the whole Â’donÂ’t sell your best playersÂ’ etc but if the player himself wants to leave then all you can do is get the highest price. Most important thing would be to invest the proceeds wisely in 1-2 real quality signings. A decent youngish replacement RB and a quality No.10.

Hope he stays though; a gifted and down to earth footballer which is rare these days and could really become an Everton legend should he choose to stay.

I hope I’m wrong, but my feeling is we’re generally going to have to sell to buy – that kind of money would at least go towards a possibly lesser quality RB replacement but potentially a significantly better CM / CF.

My main problem lies with the board, who get a free pass every time we sell our best to replenish the squad. We hear about a record 㿈m spent on Lukaku (actually 㿄m) but people tend to forget we got 㿇m for Fellaini.

We won’t progress until we can invest some serious money into the squad AND keep our best players. Half our squad is already made up from loans and nominal or free signings – what are we going to achieve against the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal when we have one arm tied behind our backs?

Just what is the point of Kenwright & chums? I canÂ’t think of one redeeming feature this board possess. No plans, no ambition and no clue. Shall we give them another 20 years at a crumbling Goodison Park without a trophy? To think some actually want them to stay astounds me every time I think about it.

Great player that will probably get better (when Bobby allows him to get forward again)

Look at how Southampton dealt with losing their so-called in-demand players. Coleman is a good player with excellent work rate but IÂ’m not so sure he is 㿀M and Champions League class. Those kind of players perform week-in, week-out to a level our players barely ever reach.

Up front weÂ’re heavily overloaded. After picking the usual back seven plus Lukaku, who will fill the vacant three places and who will be required to sit alongside Robles on the bench? Personally, IÂ’m stumped. Lennon will probably arrive in the last hour of the window and if he joined by a creative number10, the permutations will be many.

Obviously, we need to offload people but I canÂ’t see Osman, Barkley, Oviedo, Gibbo, Kone or McGeady going anywhere and Pienaar will pick up ١m if he stays for another 12 months. Naismith seems to think he is staying but IÂ’m not too clear about Super Kev. Happy days.

As demonstrated previously, we spend little more than we get in ever, despite the rising TV money; we probably have the shortest transfer target list in all 4 divisions and anyone that we want to bring in usually ends up taking a window at least (if we get them) and hence we end up using the loan market.

There is no way we have a list of replacements drawn up, and there is no way on GodÂ’s green earth that these tight-arsed money grabbers would be so proactive as the Southampton board were last year. That is my fear, that weÂ’ll just make do, the Everton way.

Do I believe we have the funds available to take the club forward? Yes.

Do I believe the manager has gone to the board with a list of targets? Yes.

Do I believe the board have any intention of splashing out net 㿊-40m on odd on a few quality signings to move us up the league? Do I fuck!

Do I believe the board have a definitive plan for moving the club forward, with a solid transfer policy in place, with the right players identified quickly through an extensive network of scouts? See above...

IÂ’ll chew my own arm off if we outspend the mid-table dross (once again).

First one about Seamus and Manure link and even Carragher thinks Seamus is the best RB in the Premier league. I donÂ’t often agree with the RS pundit, but this time I will concur.

We should not sell him and I am puzzled by those that say Â’get the cash for himÂ’ for precisely the same reasons as Nick Page (#60).

The other article was about Stones and the lost art of defending. He gets rave reviews over his ball skills and distribution but he needs to be more old school. Maybe Derek Mountfield could step in???

Certainly there has to be a contingency plan for replacing Jags. in the long term but what do they have in the short term if he or Stones gets injured?

RM has talked about loaning the younger defenders our such as Galloway and Browning so where does that leave defensive replacements?

Hibbert is past it and Alcaraz has gone so what is the answer?

Take the ٢m off the Lukaku fee our net spend 2014-15 was 㿌m, then take off the previous 4 years net (-㾽m, -٠m, -㾸m, -٠m) and hey fucking presto you end up at pretty much zero. And thatÂ’s my point. And with the ballooning TV money coming in, and the kind of penny-pinching/hood-winking/lying this board does, weÂ’ll get left well behind which is exactly what started to happen last year.....and which was only really rescued by loanee Lennon who was playing for a move (that old extra 10%).

So when you say, get the money in etc the board will NOT lay it back out on a quality replacement and EFC goes sideways again.

Now we have the massive sky money, we should be making profits (asuming we donÂ’t spunk it all on higher wages for manager and players) and should be in a position to invest all transfer proceeds in the squad (unless lord forbid weÂ’re actually putting some aside for the stadium). You canÂ’t just add the negative net spends of the past and net it off with the positive one of last season. Our financial position today is much healthier than in the past thanks to Mr Murdoch.

RM should have a good 20m+ odd of transfer fee budget (unless the club is going to massively reduce the debt). On top of that he should have whatever transfer fees we get in as well. IF there is hardly any spend this summer then there should be a massive outcry from the fans asking why as everyone knows how much the club is going to get from Sky.

The transfer window hasnÂ’t even opened yet and I expect us to make at least another 2 signings before it shuts.

Back to topic - as stated above, if Coleman wants to go and manu want him, all the club can do is get the highest price.

The same posters no doubt regularly question why we arenÂ’t winning things.

We CANNOT let our best players go. We need to build on quality and stability and add quality or we will forever be stuck well below that glass ceiling.

Seamus is a gem and certainly looked one when playing behind Lennon for a few weeks last season. Do you really believe he could be replaced with better?

If the answer is NO, then he must NOT be sold for foolÂ’s gold!

As much as I like and rate Coleman, heÂ’s an RB at the end of the day, and if it means we can buy 2 or 3 quality players, he goes with my blessing.

I also donÂ’t think it matters whether Man Utd stumped up all the money up front (itÂ’s the norm to pay in installments anyway) and we donÂ’t have to pay for our new signings in one payment. So I donÂ’t really see how thatÂ’s an issue.

Seamus will be back to his wonderful finest again next season.

And if anyone believes that grabbing 㿀M for him would be good business.........dream on. 㿔M...... well OK

But what would the 㿔M get spent on?

I want to watch Seamus, thanks.

Our club motto has been dragged through the dust and I have sat here frustrated to hell as we drop out of every major bidding situation as soon as another club shows interest. We are losing out to clubs like Southampton, Sunderland and West Ham, never mind the top six or seven.

This boardroom are happy with Premier League survival and any successful seasons are taken as a bonus. We needed the 6 or 7 extra players that Martinez stated we required before we entered last season’s competition in Europe. We ended up with a squad which was exactly the same size in numbers as the previous one.

This board are already continuing this window in the same way. Two out and two in so far. We are carrying a squad which is on the wane. Fans speak of great youngsters but I see no better players in our squad than any other clubs.

If we do not even bid for Delph and his like then we are a disgrace and not worth the fans support. We have Gibson, Kone, Hibbert and McGeady included in our first-team squad even though none are genuinely worth a place on the bench. Our young players are all defenders. Our two best midfield players are Pienaar and Osman and both are in their twilight years. We do not possess a genuine playmaker on the books!

Barry is in need of at least a rotator as he is becoming a liability pace-wise. McCarthy and Mirallas are both unhappy and could well be heading out. Coleman and now Stones are being head hunted. Meanwhile, we sign Cleverley on a free and Delboy on a pittance. I am well unimpressed with the business done so far.

Martinez won't have that, he wants his full backs to be available for his central defenders. That's why both Seamus and Baines were nowhere near as big a threat last season.

I think this has legs, Seamus will not want another season like last season.

They were stupid enough to pay "㿊M for a youngster whoÂ’d had maybe one good season, and was such a professional that he turned up for pre-season a stone overweight and was made to train with the kids." If Coleman is not a better player and more professional than that dope, IÂ’ll show my arse in LewisÂ’s window. Shaw = 㿊M. Coleman =㿋M.

If this was to happen & we brought in Sam Byram IÂ’d say it would be a good deal for us. Byram & Browning competing for the right back spot for years to come, Januzaj for a season & 㾻m-㿀m in the bank, not too bad.

Every fullback should be available for his centre half, from a defensive point of view, but I donÂ’t think ours are. We prefer to let our fullbacks push on and leave it to the deep lying midfielders to provide cover.

This worked two seasons ago, but when the team started leaking goals last year, the manager had to go more cautious.

I would like us to play with three centre-backs and two wing-backs for a number of reasons next year. Baines, had no cover so was constantly exposed. Until Lennon came, Coleman never had anyone outside him on a regular basis either, so wasnÂ’t as comfortable bombing on without cover.

I know we have signed Deulofeu, but itÂ’s possible we might get more out of this kid, by letting him roam. Finally if we had a third defender, IÂ’m sure Stones could bring the ball out of defence, and carry the ball much further up the pitch, than were Barry currently receives the ball.

If the money is right though, IÂ’m sure your right and he will go, but I hope itÂ’s not just Coleman who doesnÂ’t want another year like the last one!!

Kevin Tully, this is the main reason why IÂ’m still pondering whether to get another season ticket. I love my club, I just hate the way it is getting run,

If you go and look through our transfer dealings, we have actually made a net outlay of around ٠m per year, on average since the inception of the PL and the subsequent massive inflow of money (cash-flow net to clubs from media etc). We were more skint five years ago than now.

So why are we netting out at zero in the last five? Because the board are risk averse, and their strategy, if you can even call it that is to keep the club in the PL. They have not shown and will not show the ambition to move this grand old football club forward. We have had broken promises, lies, deceit at every turn from a dictatorship the Middle East loons would be proud of.

I would be very very happy indeed to be wrong but I cannot see us going out and spending 㿔m on NET additions to this squad. Because itÂ’s never happened previously. We spend late, what we get in. If Coleman goes itÂ’s a cheap replacement in Jan or more likely a loan. God forbid if Stones goes too.

We need to move forward. We need at least five decent players NET and even that is a massive push considering the dead wood like Gibson/McGeady.

ItÂ’s pie in the sky stuff. The Club simply will not move forward under the 24/7 lies that they think we are naive enough to swallow. ItÂ’s fucking sickening and time someone, everyone stood up to the bastards and called their bluff.

We need local talent, trained, educated and supported properly with THE sole view to making those players first team regulars. That doesnÂ’t do it the English way, with dickheads stood on touch line shouting expletives at 12-year-olds. Which is why this country has such a piss poor record in International football tournaments?

Otherwise, we are just existing.

If Man Utd offer the right money for Coleman and Chelsea offer the right money for Stones, will we be able to turn them down? We all know it would be a bad thing for the team in so many ways but, as a business, could Everton resist two large bids? Particularly when you consider how much these two players cost us....

Eighteen months ago IÂ’d have been 100% in agreement, but there has been a very definite change.

Coleman and Baines are two very different players, Baines is a Rolls Royce of a player, all slick passing and instant control, with a wand of a left foot. Coleman is about drive and determination; yes, he has a trick, but it's his determination to get past his opposite number that gets the crowd on their feet.

Being a full back isn’t what it used to be (they’ve even changed the name). Today’s full back is often involved in a psychological battle with his opposite number – who can impose his will on the other, who will blink and retire back into the trenches.

Not long back, Coleman and Baines were Kings. They are both natural risk takers, who believe they can inflict more damage than their opponent. Even Miserable Moyes recognised that and went against all his instincts by letting them off the leash.

The best pair of attacking full backs in Europe started MartinezÂ’s first season as you would have expected, they were confident and if anything were getting even better; however, slowly but surely, their risk taking was giving way to his possession obsession. By the end of the season they were not making nearly as many runs. Others were now able to impose their will on them.

I wouldn't go as far as Derek (#87): "ruined" would suggest there is no way back, but Martinez has certainly stifled them. The question is: Will he change direction? I donÂ’t think so.

If Man Utd put a definite offer on the table, I think Seamus will be sorely tempted, only his love for this club would make him think twice. I also think Baines looks back to the time when he only had to say the word and thinks, "If only IÂ’d known..."

If Martinez carries on with the same style as last season, I think he will be out of a job before Xmas. We simply cannot put up with this slow possession based, lopsided bollocks.

If we can inject pace into the game, and start attacking from different positions, Goodison will become a much better place to be every other Saturday.

IÂ’m confident we can have a good season, purely because it looks like the squad will be thoroughly prepared this time around. Only time will tell us that answer though!

Then weÂ’ll talk.

The poor lad seemed at a loss,
Couldnt shoot, couldn't cross,
If United are in, then don't rebuff,
Just make sure we get enough!