Everton’s Stones stance makes a refreshing change

Accepting a ten-fold profit on a player snapped up for £3million may make sense to some, but Everton are still able to hold their own among the elite and are focused on the present but building for the future.

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You do not have to cast the mind back far to find examples of the so-called ‘big boys’ throwing their weight around in the transfer market and thrusting money at a problem in an effort to get what they want. Everton, though, are taking a stand and proving that such tactics will be met with stubborn resistance if the situation calls for it.

Chelsea’s pursuit of John Stones has left something of a sour taste in the mouth, with there no reason in an era of directors of football and multiple player representatives for a saga of this sort to be played out in public.

The reigning Premier League champions clearly know what they are doing, though, and have hung their laundry out to dry in the hope that mass hysteria will prove destabilising and ultimately lead to them toasting the desired result.

Jose Mourinho would appear to have underestimated the Toffees, though, with a transfer window that has not delivered too much in the way of fresh faces being welcomed through the door offering plenty in terms of keeping key men out of the clutches of a Premier League rival. James McCarthy’s future kept the gossip columns in business for a while, before committing to a new long-term contract, while Kevin Mirallas was also the subject of unwanted attention before putting pen to paper.

Bill Kenwright was widely reported to have played a crucial role in the securing of McCarthy’s services, and is likely to have had more than a passing interest in discussions held with Mirallas.

He will also be the man leading the fight to keep Stones on Merseyside. Kenwright has never shied away from the fact that books need to be balanced and that funds will often need to be self-generated in order to be used in recruitment drives elsewhere.

He is, however, also a man who will look to do best by the club at all times, and if that means fending off advances from afar for prized assets, then so be it.

In Roberto Martinez he has the perfect mouthpiece and a man offered a stage on a regular basis from which to preach the philosophies of the collective cause and to make it abundantly clear that Everton are not a club to be messed about – as has been the case during the Stones saga.

It is an approach that is refreshing to see, and one which is likely to have been welcomed by all footballer followers outside of Stamford Bridge. Accepting a ten-fold profit on a player snapped up for £3million may make sense to some, but Everton are fortunate to be under the stewardship of men who still see football as being much more than a business.

They are still able to hold their own among the elite and will fancy another shot at bucking trends in Premier League betting markets which suggest that the top four, possibly even the top six, is a closed shop and one impossible to breach.

This is a club focused on the present but building for the future, and a 21-year-old defender who has already seen his talent recognised at a senior international level and one who committed to a five-year contract just 12 months previous, is rightly considered to be a key part of that project.

It is also important to note that Stones could well be worth considerably more than the figures currently being floated further down the line, so why should the Toffees allow that potential to slip through their fingers? They have every right to tell Chelsea where to go, with it about time that someone stood up to the Premier League’s prima donnas and made them aware that money isn’t everything.

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Ray Robinson
1 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:11:38
I agree it makes a refreshing change - but only if we reject all offers. If we eventually sell for Stones £30m, it just confirms we have driven a hard bargain but it still means the bully has won.
Phil Walling
4 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:30:50
So on to ACT 4. I bet not too many of Bill's theatre productions extend that far. I think most of us know how it will end and not much will happen on the incoming front until the Stones money is banked.

Call me a cynic if you will !

Mark Riding
7 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:43:38
Phil #4. Just for the TW vaults. Do you think we should sell Stones? And if so, what price? Thanks in advance.
John Otway
8 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:47:56
OK you're a cynic and your constant negativity is infuriatingly dull. Happy?
Dave Weston
9 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:48:03
I don't think he will go.
Mike Allison
10 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:49:46
I've just seen Tony Gale on Sky Sports News talking as if this transfer was inevitable. It's infuriating and makes me absolutely determined that we shouldn't sell him at any price.

However, I've said all along that every player at Everton has their price, if we worked out the cost of a new stadium to be £250M and someone offered us £250M for a player they'd be sold and we'd start work on a new stadium and be happy about it. The question is how much less than that would they be sold for as well.

In my view though, Stones is now worth more than money, and the more the media talk about this, and considering the dirty tactics Chelsea have tried to employ, the figure we should accept would have to be truly absurd. Given that David Luiz was sold for £50M, I wouldn't consider that to be enough money. If we were to accept any bid below that then I, and I think many other fans, would be completely and irretrievably disillusioned with Everton for a long time to come.

Tom Bowers
11 Posted 18/08/2015 at 18:57:27
It will always be that some people get off on saying provocative statements on the box or any form of social media. These people like Tony Gale are attention-seekers and use exaggeration to make them seem knowledgeable.

It’s obvious Stones is still with Everton and has not met with any Chelski people nor has Kenwright accepted any offer as yet. Hopefully it doesn’t happen but we all know money talks and everyone has their price.

Joe O'Brien
12 Posted 18/08/2015 at 19:07:46
You’re dead right, Phil you are so negative always. It drives me mad. I for one don’t think we’ll sell Stones. Chelsea are a gutter club, gutter players i.e Terry and Costa to name but two. The way that manager of theirs publicly treated their doc just showed how bad they are.

They are a club with absolutely no class. Stones is far too good a man to be infected by that lot.

I hope we stand firm and don’t give in, so far we’re doing that. Roll on end of August to show Chelsea and the media that you can’t roll over Everton.

Brian Hill
13 Posted 18/08/2015 at 19:11:20
Tony Gale is just another thick ex-player who would be on the dole if not for Sky's desire to employ incoherent drivellers by the truckload. Sky has an agenda and employs these useful idiots to reinforce it ad nauseam. Don't pay attention.
Eddie Dunn
14 Posted 18/08/2015 at 19:40:11
I have a £20 bet with my best mate (a Pembrokeshire Liverpool fan), who is desperate for Chelski to land him. I hope that we stick to our guns and tell them to fuck off.

These pundits think they are so clever predicting a sale, and telling us that we will sell at £30 million or whatever, make my blood boil. I do hope we keep him.

I notice that West Brom have reportedly refused a £15m offer from Spurs for Bera-whatsit. Could it be, that with all of the telly lolly, that little us, and little West Brom could actually afford to say "No" in these situations? I really hope so.

Jim Lloyd
15 Posted 18/08/2015 at 19:45:12
Yep, it will be good if we resist Chelsea. I’d love to see the young team that Roberto is aiming getting together.

What I take issue with is the overt support of Kenwright as some kind of saviour of our Club "but Everton are fortunate to be under the stewardship of men who still see football as being much more than a business"

Is this man being serious???? Green, loves football. I’m sure of it! Earl? another feller who cant wait for the match to start. Kenwright. Well, there’s plenty been said and still more to come no doubt.

"Fortunate to be under the stewardship" Greay Zeus above, give me strength! I nearly spat me pint out there...and I haven’t even got one yet.

There are a significant number of fans who would argue the point about " we are fortunate" me includsed.

Yep, it is great if qwe keep Stones but if we do, it’s because the Sky money has copme in and, to a degree, saved us from the Bankers. Though it’s likely that we still owe the Gods know how much.

We still have no plan to either improve/redevelop Goodison, or well this bits just a mirage, a new stadium.

There was in my view a major role played by the present and last manager in gathering together a nuclerus of good young players.

As for the boys at the top... dearie me.

Oliver Molloy
16 Posted 18/08/2015 at 19:58:58
I said on another thread that Stones WILL eventually be sold when the right money is offered. However, I really hope that whatever figure our chairman may have in his head is not offered.

Wouldn’t it be brilliant to see this young player grow even more with us this season, just imagine if Everton were to win a trophy or push for that top 4 place,maybe just maybe John Stones might fall in love with Everton. No, I know I’m talking complete bollocks and my cynicism is down to many years of experience of what goes on at our football club and football in general, probably like Phil.

I totally believe that we will be unable to hold on John Stones in the long term unless the unthinkable happens.

I think that the way Chelsea and their manager have gone about this has in a way galvanised our club and if they want John Stones they are going to have to pay way over the odds. I genuinely believe Martinez when he says that John a Stones is NOT FOR SALE and is an important part of what he is trying to build, but poor Roberto will have no say if the magic figure is offered (it’s in Bills head) and if that happens let us hope another money rich club enter the race,I so don’t want him to go to Chelsea.

If we can beat Man City this weekend with John Stones playing well, the figure goes up once again. If we can get a couple of good signings in, then who knows!

Christy Ring
17 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:03:04
I am thrilled that Everton and Martinez have said Stones is not for sale. He’s a class act, as we saw against Southampton. It sends out a huge message to Mourinho that EFC is not a selling club.

lf BK and Bob do a u turn and sell John they will have lost all credibility.

Stephen Brown
20 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:25:45
This has almost become a pivotal moment for EFC. There’s more than money and a player involved now but a massive principle!

We need to demonstrate that we are not just a club to be plundered by a Russian mobster and ego maniac manager! We cannot be bullied and I would implore all at the club to hold their ground whatever the offer! Otherwise what is the point?

I hope September 2nd arrives and JS is still at the club then we can flick 2 fingers to all these idiotic pundits who have fallen into the belief that football started 23 years ago with Sky! We have the backing of every club and supporter outside of the jumped up bullies of the Sky 4/5.

Huge few weeks for our club!

Chris Owens
21 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:27:31
Does anyone have an address for a Chelsea website where we can post, telling them they might have money, but they have no class?

I still don’t understand why Chelsea have not been warned about their continued illegal approaches for another club’s player after being told he is not for sale.

Colin Metcalfe
22 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:27:47
Oliver (#16), I appreciate your opinion but to say Martinez won’t have a say in the matter if that magical figure is offered I am not too sure. I believe Martinez didn’t take the Anfield job because he wanted complete control of who comes and who goes and, from what we have seen so far in the 2 years since he arrived at Everton, that’s been the case.

Tony Abrahams
23 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:34:47
As somebody, has already said, let’s hope this refreshing change, lasts until September.

Paul Tandy
24 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:43:47
Let's just keep our class. Why would he want to transfer to relegation candidates?
Iain Love
25 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:57:15
I think that we may be missing a few points here.

1) We don't want to sell Stones but if we have to, ie, the player wants the move, we want the best possible price, so we act the way we do when haggling abroad, we pretend we’re not interested.

2) We won't or can't buy new players until the Sky money is in, or we sell someone.

3) The probable reason for Stones being a good boy is he isn’t a definite starter for Chelsea (maybe Jose subbed Terry to say something to John) with the Euros in mind.

4) After the plane protest Bill and the board want some positive spin.

5) According to the latest reports, Bill has said it’s up to Bobby (ie, it’s not down to me).

Now £40M is a hell of a lot of money, I’m not sure if Chelsea would pay it upfront or would say "We’ll knock it off Rom's bill or just pay installments" (which would probably cover Rom's bill).

The thing is we appear to be looking abroad for players which would mean cash upfront. As a club needing one, maybe two centre-halves, a playmaker, and another striker at the very least, a backup right-back and a keeper would be nice though. We could do with this money if we wanted to buy quality players for these positions. Dick van Dijk, Austin and Yarmelenko would cost £40m (Yarmelenko would be great for us). Now I’d like to keep Stones but I’d prefer to get those three in.

Martin Mason
26 Posted 18/08/2015 at 20:58:34
International shock announcement!! Everton board does something right. Congratulations to them for this action and for West Brom for telling Spurs to stick a £15 million bid for Berahino up their jacksies.

There is a massive need for cash at Everton but hopefully the additional TV money and Everton's improving situation has allowed them to turn their backs on it for now. He will go of course but when he does it will hopefully be for twice the current Chelsea bid and that it'll be to a class club rather than the Soho chavs. I believe that once again we've shown our great strength in identifying and developing talent. When he goes I'll wish him well and remember our part in his rise to the top which is inevitable; so far he's the best defender I've seen at Everton (in nearly 60 years) at his current stage, a real gem.

Way to go Blues, what a board.

Tony Abrahams
27 Posted 18/08/2015 at 21:05:20
According to the latest reports, Iain? If Bill's spoken, then I'd definitely fear the worst.
Eric Owen
28 Posted 18/08/2015 at 21:06:47
Sorry to have to say this but I grew up in a period when it was common for the man in the street to be told not to argue and that he didn’t know his station in life.

"WE are the entitled," was their cry.

Now we have to put up with "newer masters" (with the media genuflecting at their feet) not understanding the word, "NO".

Oliver Molloy
29 Posted 18/08/2015 at 21:17:45
Colin @ 22,

We’ll, if Martinez threatened to go public and say something like "If John Stones is sold, I will resign" -- that may make a difference, but I think we both know that is highly unlikely to happen.

It will, I hope, take a ridiculous amount of money for BK to let John Stones leave this season, simply because as others have said he would be doing himself no favours with us supporters etc.

Raymond Fox
30 Posted 18/08/2015 at 22:08:50
To be fair, the club showed plenty of ambition when Rom was bought for whatever it was, lets just say plenty! Baines, McCarthy, Mirallas have all signed new contracts, Coleman is still here, Deulofeu came back. They all seem to want to play for Martinez which goes against some of the bile that has been spouted on here over the last 12 months towards the manager.

We have accumulated a pretty impressive squad of players especially now we don’t have the distraction of the Europa Comp. this season. What I’m getting at is, if we repel all boarders for young John we might just be on the way to at last winning something!

On the other hand if we sell Stones how long will it be before their knocking on the door for Barkley who had a real return to form against Southampton.

Another factor is, is it fair for us to want these young players to stay when they could perhaps get substantially more money else where?

Karl Jones
31 Posted 18/08/2015 at 22:20:45
Sorry fellow Evertonians, but there's no way Stones will still be an Everton player at the end of the window. Everton aren't excercising some sort of moral high ground and repelling all offers. They're just pushing the price up. He'll probably go for around 38 million.

We've seen it all before with Lescott etc. Even the quote. "Not for sale at any price" was trundled out then, and prior to that (Rooney). So take no notice of that.

The worrying thing is whether we will have time to find an adequate replacement (s) if the deal goes to the wire. You can bet the contract is already agreed and that Everton have a replacement identified.

The transfer window has become a ridiculous farce which always favours the rich clubs. The Premier League and Sky wouldnt have it any other way.

Spragg Johnson
32 Posted 18/08/2015 at 22:23:05
Spot on Raymond... we might not compete with the big boys in terms of transfer fees and wages, but if we can hold the wolves at bay and keep the core of this squad we’ll be looking at another top 6 challenge. Coleman, Garbutt, Browning, Galloway, Stones, McCarthy, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku, Cleverley ... that’s not a bad next five seasons.

Add a new keeper (next season maybe), along with a CB (Mori soon?) and a left winger/no 10 (Yarmolenko hopefully) and an extra striker (not sure about Austin though ... reminds me a bit of Beattie), mix in a decent loan or two over the next few seasons and I’m optimistic... unlike a lot of ToffeeWebbers!!

Tom Bowers
33 Posted 18/08/2015 at 22:44:20
The Stones saga will take us all agonisingly down to the wire.

We all hope he is still with us come September but as mentioned ,if not then one hopes someone is already pencilled in as a replacement.

I detect also some tones of optimism for the future based on probably the game at Soton which was not apparent the week before.

Caution is the key word but if they can follow up with a good result against City then just perhaps we will all have good reason to feel optimistic.

Trevor Lynes
34 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:16:49
Unfortunately the betting systems are against us and so far our board room has not backed our manager.We are still just thinking about buying players and day by day other clubs are strengthening.Newcastle have now spent almost £50 million and sold no one with todays business.Even new comers to the league have spent around £20 million and all this business is occurring before the SKY money is available.If we cannot act without selling Stones or until the SKY money materializes then we are in dire straits.

Stones should show his hand and put in a transfer request or tell the board he does not want to leave.Each party appear to be waiting for the other to act.Martinez has already come out with strong anti sale quotes so the board should back their mouth piece if they are to be trusted.

Personally I am sick to the back teeth with the lack of business and only the great result at Southampton has given the board breathing space for a few days.If we suffer one more injury we will be really screwed, especially if it to Lukaku or Jagielka.

I just hope that Stones is picked to play against City at the weekend as this should put some sort of marker down.These money clubs must be stood up to otherwise we may as well throw the towel in as far as ambition.

Chris Gould
35 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:24:12
Karl, as sure as you are that he will go...equally I am convinced that he will stay. I don’t care what happened before. They were different circumstances and there is so much for Stones to gain in staying.

Apart from the guaranteed playing time alongside players he clearly enjoys playing with, Roy Hodgson is guaranteed to be watching us frequently with Jagielka, Baines, Cleverley, Barkley and Stones all likely to be going to the Euros. Stones is a young lad. He’ll need and appreciate having these guys around him day in day out, and especially on England duty.

We won’t sell unless he wants to go, and I don’t believe he does.

Jim Lloyd
36 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:40:43
Martin Mason (26)
"What a board"
Never a truer word!
Terry Murphy
37 Posted 18/08/2015 at 00:14:00
Chris (35) -- good point. How many England regulars are there at Chelsea?
Phil Bellis
38 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:31:28
Karl Jone (#31)

Why not buck the trend? Refuse £34M; wait for £40M, then invite offers from the Manchester clubs?

FFS, whoever pulls the financial strings at EFC... you hold ALL the cards. Grow a pair.

This boy is Bobby Moore with aggression and pace.

Phil Gardner
39 Posted 19/08/2015 at 01:00:43
Some people on here are either too daft or too young. I can remember when we were one of the ’bully boys’ of English football who bought whoever we wanted at whatever price. Deal with it folks.... If the money is right, get shut and go and find another kid. The game hasn’t really changed it’s just that we are not one of the big boys anymore...t hat’s life.

No idea who wrote this piece but it is suspiciously fawning towards Kenwright and the buffoons in charge of running, badly, Everton Football Club. John Stones is Moyes’s last cash gift to Everton.

Matt Traynor
41 Posted 19/08/2015 at 05:16:03
Oliver #29 ’We’ll, if Martinez threatened to go public and say something like " f John Stones is sold I will resign" -- that may make a difference’

The only difference that would make is a change among a portion of Evertonians who would suddenly want to sell Stones.

(Martin -- if you’re reading this, I don’t know if it’s a minority, majority, or some other form of plurality acceptable to you; it is a prima facie statement, or if you like, a guess.)

Brent Stephens
42 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:07:58
Phil #39 "I can remember when we were one of the ’bully boys’ of English football who bought whoever we wanted at whatever price. Deal with it folks...."

Absolutely. People say we’re a club with history! How true! Was it Kay etc we bought for big bucks at the time?

Rick Tarleton
43 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:13:26
Karl Jones and Phil Walling are right. He'll be sold and Bill will present it as good business and Martinez will put a positive gloss on it. Bill won't sell him until it's too late for the money to be spent on new players.
Paul Whittaker
44 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:32:02
I think the Everton board is drawing upon the Rooney experience. Even taking in the critical factor of inflation, Rooney was sold too cheaply. He is shortly to become England’s greatest ever goal scorer. What price would Kenwright have put on Rooney's head if he had the power of seeing into the future?

However, he now has the power of hindsight and Stones has the ability to become England’s greatest central defender, most capped international and a future World Cup winning captain. You do not sell a player of this potential for anything less than the benchmark. David Luiz was sold for £50million on the basis that he could pass a ball and could take a mean free kick. It was and still is the general consensus that defensively he was often a liability.

Age, nationality, Potential, resale value, current ability, and the long term commercial impact all point to Stones having a higher market value than David Luiz. £55 million and I wouldn’t blame Kenwright if he took the phone call. Anything less and Everton have sold too cheaply and not learnt from Rooney.
Eric Myles
45 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:46:27
And if structured the same way as the Rooney deal Rick it will be done in drips of £10M at a time to keep down the expectation of the fans to use the lump sum for new players or ground.
Mike Allison
46 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:32:18
Trevor (34) you're guilty of the kind of post that's been going on on here for at least ten years of the 'look at what even that small club are spending' variety.

Other clubs spend money because they desperately need to to get to the level of Everton. We are ahead of the likes of Newcastle and they constantly chase us by signing people. The players they sign rarely make much of a positive impact by the way, and they keep having to do it again. This is especially true of Sunderland, who seem to quietly spend obscene amounts without getting noticed and remaining relegation candidates.

It was Hull last summer, look what happened to them. This year Stoke and Crystal Palace are mentioned. Well frankly, Crystal Palace are basically a team of Championship players and in need of the likes of Cabaye. Stoke have sold something like £15-20M worth of player as well. There's a different club or clubs every summer who seem to outspend us, yet don't out-perform us.

This is because we are far more stable. We keep the same players together for longer so that they know each other, are settled and become part of the club. We then increase their wages significantly, meaning a lot of our money goes on contract extensions for existing players rather than big transfer fees on new players.

I for one think this is a much better way of going about things, and our performance in the league seems to bear this out over the last ten years or so. This is why every summer there is so much focus on keeping players, rather than signing new ones. We have players who are good enough to play in the Champions League and win trophies, we need to make sure they do it with us, not the likes of Chelsea or Man United.

Of course we still want to sign new players, but they have to be carefully chosen and fit in with the type of person we have in the squad, and be someone we believe will be a success at the club for years to come, rather than some random who will have a good August then fade away.

Mike Childs
47 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:57:51
I for one would feel better if the board did something positive like renegotiate his contract with a well deserved raise and an exorbitant sale fee. We should show John the love now because if we don't loose him this year, then it's next year. A little love now when it's not required could sway John about his future.
Dick Brady
48 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:42:01
Stones will go eventually. Sooner or later the money will get so big that Everton will be forced to accept.

Everton cannot stop Chelsea from buying Stones, in the same way Barnsley couldn't stop Everton buying Stones to begin with or Holgate for that matter.

Paul Jeronovich
49 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:59:41
I just hope Stones isn't sold and most of all not to Chelsea. There are some teams and managers who have a touch of class (even in this day and age) and Mourinho has none. He has proved what an arrogant piece of work he is, even to his own staff, if Stones is sold, I hope it is to anyone but Chelsea!
David Ellis
50 Posted 19/08/2015 at 16:07:17
Mike Allison #46 - thank you I could not agree more. The way some people envy how other clubs pour their money down the drain on mediocre players always amuses/confuses me. It’s as if there was a trophy for those who spend the most every summer!

There is NO correlation between transfer spend and league position. There is a correlation between wage and bill and league position. Get good players. Pay them well and keep them. It's a bit dull for the journos and agents but that is the way to punch above your weight and that is exactly what Everton have done for the last decade (with a few exceptions such as Rooney and Lescott, but Stones is not going anywhere this window, it's not a Lescott/Rooney situation on a number of levels debated ad nauseum on another thread)

John Logan
51 Posted 19/08/2015 at 16:55:46
David Ellis, are you new to following the Premier League? How on earth do you arrive at a conclusion that there is no correlation between transfer spend and league position? Which 5 teams do you imagine have spent the most in the last five years?

Everton have not been punching above their weight for the past decade; quite the opposite. If you think that then you are one of the growing number of Everton supporters that have been brainwashed into a new acceptance of life on a par with Stoke and Southampton.

Phil Walling
52 Posted 19/08/2015 at 16:59:35
Bloody hell, Paul @44. The kid's hardly out of nappies and he's England's greatest ever and certain captain of his country. Sounds like all the tosh the manager was spewing last season about Barkley who, until last Saturday, was stinking the place out.

Neither of these comparative youngsters have ever been exposed to the heat of battle in the Champions League and although they've won soft caps in Internationals neither of them have, in any respect, stood out in that company.

Of course, they both have the P word in spades and we all hope that they will go on to fulfil it but, please, please, don't catch Martinez disease by exaggerating where he/they are at.

The sad thing, of course, is that we shall never know what the likes of Stones can eally achieve until he moves to a club who play on the big stage.

Anto Byrne
53 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:22:31
How do the Financial Fair Play rules work? I thought it was money that the club earned from its operations and not continued funding from oil barons or Middle-Eeastern shiekhs.

Everton should have been sold when Uncle Bill got out of his depth. Real investment with a proper business plan. Until that happens, we will never compete with the top 5 or 6 rich clubs. They just buy their way to the top.

Linda Morrison
54 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:36:45
I agree with Phil on this. Stones won’t leave... yet. If he manages to achieve his potential why would he go to Chelsea when he could do a Bale and play for one of the big clubs abroad.

Unless he is a throwback to the age of club loyalty, Everton can’t offer him the chance to try his skills against the best and we need to accept this. He is very young and I expect to see him in the blue for a couple more seasons. Why anyone would want to go to Chelsea with Big Head in charge is beyond me, what a completely classless act!

It is stated today that Chelsea may offer £40 million but only if Stones states he wants to go

Jay Doyle
55 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:51:41
Isn’t this the same Chelsea who paid £50M for an out-of-form, unfit, and definitely not English Torres???
Charles Brewer
56 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:53:01
19 August 2016

In the scramble for players which has followed the collapse of Chelsea following Roman Abramovich’s deportation to Russia, Everton look odds on to get Eden Hazard’s signature on a free transfer. Roberto Martinez and Bill Kenwright’s brave stand to refuse the desperate £40 million bid for John Stones just before the deadline last year.

This was seen as the beginning of the crack in the dam which swept away Jose Mourhino’s team, who lost their next four matches and led to reports of fights on the Cobham training ground and of talks of two irreconcilable camps. The team went on to avoid relegation on the last day by losing by fewer than two goals in front of 15,000 spectators, of whom around 13,000 were Leicester supporters.

Chelsea are expected to enter receivership on Friday when the wage bill for the 40 or so players out on loan comes due.

Meanwhile in other news, Liverpool’s former owners are believed to have been spotted in Pyongyang which appears to be because there is no extradition treaty with the USA. Temporary manager Kenny Dalgleish said something no one could understand.

Marshall Duvall
57 Posted 20/08/2015 at 00:20:58
Under no circumstances should Everton sell John Stones. He is an integral part of the Everton defense. He has played most of the minutes next to Jagielka now for quite some time and has a good rapport with him. He knows the system that Everton plays. He just can not be replaced.

Chelsea presumably want John Stones because it will make their team better. It is not in Everton’s best interest to make Chelsae better.

If John Stones is worth say £40 million to Chelsea who already has several competent center backs then he must necessarily be worth more than that to Everton who has no one to back him up at present and a 33-year-old playing next to him (also without backup).

As to Everton’s interest in obtaining additional center backs this has nothing to do with John Stones leaving Everton. Two centre-backs left over the summer. Everton needs to replace those centre-backs.

Jim Lloyd
58 Posted 20/08/2015 at 13:17:20
Anyone know who wrote this?
John Codling
60 Posted 21/08/2015 at 06:38:31
Reports this morning's press that Stones will put in a transfer request is a continuation of the process we are all familiar with. His head already turned which is what the last 2 weeks coverage has been all about. How can we compete with the lure of medals wages and London??!!

I stick by my prediction that he will be gone by next weekend leaving Everton panicking to bring in a cheap over the hill replacement, with the majority of the incoming money disappearing into the Bermuda Triangle that is Everton's financial setup.

RM can say what he likes but until Bullshit Bill speaks out anything goes. Silence is Golden.

Ajay Gopal
61 Posted 21/08/2015 at 08:47:51
I see from the BBC’s gossip column (quoting ’The Sun’) that Stones will put in a transfer request or that Mourinho will break the bank and make a double swoop for Pogba and Stones for a combined 100 million pound fee.

Personally, I think Stones is too level-headed to want to put in a transfer request and he is smart enough to know that if he waits another season or two, he can make a really ’big’ move to Barca, Real or Bayern.

Right now, I am hating this uncertainty – if Stones does leave, even if we get in a good replacement (and I don’t believe that there is no-one with the same ability out there), our season is screwed because it means the defence will have to readjust plus it sends out a signal to the other players that, if they want to win trophies, Everton is not the place for them.

On the other hand, if Everton do fend off Chelsea’s advances, I can see it giving a huge lift to Roberto, our players and the fans and Everton’s stock in the eyes of football supporters throughout the world would rise immeasurably. If we manage to keep Stones and sign 1-2 class players (Yarmolenko + a CB), maybe just maybe, we can achieve something spectacular.

Harold Matthews
62 Posted 21/08/2015 at 15:31:55
I've often criticised his youthful errors but the lad is sheer class on the ball and Pique apart, there is no-one remotely like him out there. Obviously needs to gain weight and strength but he should be a fine physical specimen in a year or two. A tremendous prospect who will test the ambition of the club and the Board. We'll see.
Marc Sansum
63 Posted 25/08/2015 at 16:37:08
Just handed in a transfer request according to Sky

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