Schneiderlin hoping to be fit for the derby

Tuesday 21 March 2017  39 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton have been boosted by the news that Morgan Schneiderlin has only a minor injury but it's too soon to know whether he will be fit to face Liverpool on 1st April.

The French international had to come off after just half an hour of Saturday's 4-0 win over Hull with a calf problem but scans of the injury revealed only a minor problem.

Schneiderlin tweeted that he is confident of getting back to action soon but it's likely that he faces a race against time for the match across Stanley Park in 12 days.

The Blues travel to his former stomping ground of Old Trafford three days later and manager Ronald Koeman will be keen to have Schneiderlin available for one or both games.  

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Brian Wilkinson
1 Posted 21/03/2017 at 17:14:09
Devil and the deep Blue sea... do we risk him in the derby, or give him the extra few days to recover for the Man Utd game? Rather you than me, Ronnie.
Tony Hill
2 Posted 21/03/2017 at 17:14:19
Only to be played if he's truly fit because if we take a chance we'll be found out in a derby. Great that he's not more badly injured.
Steve Woods
3 Posted 21/03/2017 at 17:35:43
Both you boys above beat me to those comments, my thoughts exactly. I really, really want him in for the derby but only if truly fit for that hard week of football we are going to have, LFC, ManU & Leicester. Would hate him to break down again after fifteen minutes or so in the derby! Anyway, its sounding hopeful, fingers crossed.
Karl Graham
4 Posted 21/03/2017 at 17:38:04
Depends on McCarthy. If we can get 60 minutes out of one of them and 30 out the other in the Derby and then switch it round against United I would be happy. What we don't want is Barry starting either game as we'll be on the back good from the start.
Steavey Buckley
5 Posted 21/03/2017 at 18:00:33
A fit Morgan Schneiderlin would give Everton a chance against Liverpool. As probably expected O'Neil will risk McCarthy against Wales on Friday, because McCarthy is too stupid to say no, even though he is putting his Everton career on the line with him replacing Gibson as 'sick note.'

The other alternative to Schneiderlin and McCarthy against Liverpool would be Barry, who would deal a blow to Eerton's chances against the reds. With Barry in the team, Everton would have 4 players in defence with a combined age of 140 years against 4 Liverpool attacking players with a combined age of 100 years, that would give Liverpool 30% more youth and pace over Everton where it matters most, upfront.

Brian Wilkinson
6 Posted 21/03/2017 at 18:05:05
Speaking of sick notes where the hell is Besic, last I heard three weeks ago he close to being back.
Liam Reilly
7 Posted 21/03/2017 at 18:15:34
"McCarthy is too stupid to say no"

Seems like a reasonably intelligent lad to me. Rules are, if your country calls, player must attend. If he plays, I suspect it's because he feels ready; because no one can play with a torn hamstring.

Seems Koeman likes him and wants to look at his training regime more closely.

Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 21/03/2017 at 18:19:42
Brian #6, as of Koeman's update 11 days ago Besic had yet to even go through a full practice.
Ajay Gopal
9 Posted 21/03/2017 at 18:36:16
Brian (6), Koeman has clearly said that he wants Besic to first play a few U-23 games and regain match fitness before being considered for the senior squad. Seeing that he has not yet played for the U-23s, I would think he is quite a way off featuring for the first team.
Christy Ring
10 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:16:27
Hopefully Schneiderlin and McCarthy will be fit for both games. Macca had another scan yesterday, and he won't be risked by O'Neill unless he's 100%, especially after the last fallout. The last thing we need is playing Barry in the derby, the game turned when he replaced James in our last encounter.
Colin Glassar
11 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:27:00
Christy, I hope you're right about Macca but Keane seems to be determined to play people, recovered or not. I wonder who really has the final say when it comes to selecting the Irish side?

I hope Morgan is fit but I'd only play him if he's 100%. We don't want another Rodwell fiasco.

Mick Davies
12 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:43:08
Christy @ 10, thanks for that info: if Maca gets rested, or is used sparingly, then he could play a part in one or both games. I remember the effect of losing him when we were well on top against our red rivals.

As for Schneiderlin, it is typical of the dark forces at work whenever we have to play THEM or visit Hades: whether it's Labone, Southall or Morgan/James, you can bet we lose a key player.

I was apoplectic when Huddlestone took Gana out. That could have been all 3 top DM's in casualty. Let's just hope at least 2/3 are available

Tony Cheek
13 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:51:38
Schneiderlin will play. Hopefully Macca will not.
Mike Berry
14 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:53:52
Players want to play but hopefully Morgan will be sensible and take the right option if the medics are 50/50.

As for McCarthy, he should not turn out for his country after injury before playing and being passed fit by us. If he has a recurrence of his injury playing for the Republic then Ron will go ballistic!

Paul Birmingham
15 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:58:11
Always the Ides of March with Everton and in general life conspires. Let's see what happens after the internationals, and let's hope our players come back unscathed, and mentally strong.

Koeman won't suffer fools, and so let's all stay positive and keep on believing and fate could conspire against the RS too.

Dermot Byrne
16 Posted 21/03/2017 at 19:58:11
'Word is .

Know what I mean?

Enjoy the spring (just like I am trying to ) And the next game will be just that. Otherwise we become insane on how the media portray our team or even tell us to be pissed off.

Even TW can be too addictive.

Sorry Michael. See ya tomorrow.

Dave Older
17 Posted 21/03/2017 at 20:49:33
Blimey we need Morgan for the derby, Barry cannot fill in for such a high tempo game. Shame we can't count on the great Gibbo to fill in anymore, and yes I am joking.
John Pierce
18 Posted 21/03/2017 at 20:50:14
You play fit and able players in games like these, no passengers.
I'm afraid that means both Barry and McCarthy should be nowhere near the 1st XI for this game.

Whilst I'm at it neither should Schneiderlin if he's not fully fit. Cannot see how based on what I saw.

No only do you handicap the team from minute one you waste potential game changing substitutions in the process.


Holgate, Williams, Funes Mori (FFS)
Coleman, Davies, Gana, Barkley, Baines
Mirallas, Lukaku.

Jim Jennings
20 Posted 21/03/2017 at 21:52:13
"Keane seems to be determined to play people, recovered or not. I wonder who really has the final say when it comes to selecting the Irish side?"

Is this the same Keane who today said McCarthy was "very doubtful" for Friday? O'Neill has the final say. That's why he's manager.

Mick Davies
21 Posted 21/03/2017 at 22:00:45
Tony @ 13, why wouldn't you want a fit McCarthy playing? I assume you never watched the earlier derby...
Joe O'Brien
22 Posted 21/03/2017 at 22:28:34
Tony, or the match against Arsenal... he bossed them around the pitch that day. We definitely need one of two fully fit because our chances wouldn't be great with Barry in the middle.

It's great that the injury to Morgan isn't as bad as 1st suspected.. was dreading that he was out for the season.
Barry Jones
23 Posted 21/03/2017 at 22:56:35
Same as everyone else, I want Schneiderlin in the team, but only if 100% fit and with a minimal to no risk of re-injuring himself.
Graham Hammond
25 Posted 22/03/2017 at 02:34:36
Yet again the chances are we are going to be robbed of a much needed, top performing player for the Merseyside derby. Happens year-in, year-out.

Calf injuries are 3-4 weeks out, anything less than 4 weeks is a big big gamble and will frequently backfire with a re-pull, even 4 weeks isn't a guarantee of recovery sadly, just ask Vincent Kompany!

I hate the thought of being without Morgan against the RS but unless he just felt a slight twinge in his calf I would be amazed if he was risked and asked to play after only 2 weeks.
Alexander Murphy
26 Posted 22/03/2017 at 04:52:27
I'm unimpressed with O'Neills treatment of McCarthy.
Frankly, James seems to be a player who has already put dedication before self interest, hence he now has this lingering fitness concern.

Fully fit, this lad fulfills so many roles in the engine room. Not the half sorted version that we've seen for almost 12 months, the real McCarthy.

Many Royal Blues have chosen to forget just how really good he was. Benefit of hindsight, surely he'd been pushing himself when he genuinely needed fixing.

Get him physically right, get him back.
Same with Mo Besic.
Same with Morgan.

We will possibly even probably be playing in Europe next season. No point crocking these lads now, keep them strong. We're going to need them way beyond the next few weeks.

Santosh Benjamin
27 Posted 22/03/2017 at 05:58:14
Dear Australian TWers,

I am moving to the Westmead area of Sydney for the next 2-3 years for work. Sadly I reach there on the 30th of March, just 2 days before the derby game. I have a few queries.

1. Is Optus a good option for me to choose for my broadband/mobile phone plans since they have right to the PL games?

2. IS it legal to stream games in Australia?

3. Where can I watch the game if I cant get my internet/TV fitted up in time?

Chern Lee
28 Posted 22/03/2017 at 06:46:26
Hey Santosh

I am based in Sydney.

1. Yes Optus is a good option - it costs $35 for monthly access via a sim card. However you do not actually need to use the sim card. You use the Optus app to view games on your phone, ipad or lap top. Cuts off every now and then but I am pretty happy with it generally.

2. I think so - havent tried so am not sure.

3. There are pubs throughout the CBD which do show games. I was watching at a pub in the Rocks back when carsley scored his winner :) Can't remember the name of that pub unfortunately but it should be easy to find...

Any more questions please feel free to ask. Hope you enjoy your stay in Oz !

Derek Knox
29 Posted 22/03/2017 at 09:55:32
Yes, I hope he can play an integral part in both games, but, only if fully fit.

There has been much mention of Mccarthy, and Besic as a remote possibility, but for me, I think two key 'must play' choices are Gana, and Tom Davies , while Davies is very much the new kid on the block, I think his determination, will be a major factor, especially against the RS. Gana for me, is a must for every game.

As I have mentioned on here before, there is almost an inevitability about Lukaku leaving us, come the summer, it has also been mooted that Gana is a target for a lot of clubs, home and abroad.

We cannot let Gana go under any circumstances, the lad is pure gold, and seems to want to play for us every game he can, whereas Rom seems to play like he is doing us a favour!

There is no doubt the next two games will be pivotal regarding our final position in the Table, and ultimately, which European Competition, we will be in.

Pity there is another International break, when we have had some momentum, and built up a head of steam, at this crucial juncture.

Mark Andersson
30 Posted 22/03/2017 at 10:21:08
Does anyone on here watch the international games? Seems to me that most blue fans don't care to much about the internationals...

I stopped watching them after Venables or was it Bobby Robson. Anyway, we can beat Liverpool if we play like we care.

James Marshall
31 Posted 22/03/2017 at 11:11:47
Derek – on the other hand, the International break gives Schneiderlin 14 days to be fit for the derby instead of 7. Always look on the bright side.
Chris Gould
32 Posted 22/03/2017 at 11:15:39
If Schneiderlin has a minor calf strain (Grade 1) then he should be fit for the derby. He'll be getting 24/7 physio treatment and has every chance.

Although it's typical bad luck to get an injury to such a key player before the derby, the international break has come at the right time.

Just hope everyone else comes back from international duty fit and firing.

Dennis Heaton
33 Posted 22/03/2017 at 13:45:30
If Morgan is fit, play him against the Reds, coming off after one hour when we are 2-0 up putting Barry on or Holgate for the last 30 minutes and let Macca play for 1 hour for Ireland to get match fit for Man Utd if required. Then all fit for Leicester including Besic.

I can hope, can't I?
Andy Meighan
34 Posted 22/03/2017 at 13:47:23
Schneiderlin has looked the part at home. Away from home he only played well against Stoke. Didn't get a kick against Spurs and the derby will be just as tough, especially given our train wreck of a record against them and United.

I'm confident of beating, don't know why. So for me the jury's still out on Morgan.
Des Farren
35 Posted 22/03/2017 at 14:10:47
Colin. I know the Irish have a well deserved reputation for creativity but selecting players who are injured or having their assistant manager select the team is probably a bit eccrentic even for them.
Paul Smith
36 Posted 22/03/2017 at 17:28:45
I hate when we are so reliant or hopeful that a player who is new here can dictate our game. Having said that, I hope he is fit but wouldn't want to see him risked too soon. If he can make Liverpool but not Man Utd, you'd have to suspect he's limited.

Let's hope we are close to a fully fit squad because we can beat these if we sack all that manufactured fear and play with pride and aggression.

Tony Cheek
37 Posted 22/03/2017 at 17:47:31
Mick (#21),

How earlier are we talking here I remember the derby in Martinez first season when Macca was outstanding, and would play him every week if he could do that again.

But Christ, we need someone in Midfield who is going to offer an offensive threat. Macca has two shots on target a season. But, agree that a little of his attitude in a game like this wouldn't go amiss in a game as frenetic as the derby!

Brian Furey
38 Posted 22/03/2017 at 18:19:42
Apparently McCarthy trained with the Irish squad today but they won't know til tomorrow.
Derek Knox
39 Posted 22/03/2017 at 19:49:24
James @31

Yes, when skies are grey, there is always one with a silver lining.

Steavey Buckley
40 Posted 22/03/2017 at 22:31:19
Liam (#7),

It is a myth about club versus country because a player is under no contractual obigations to play for his country of origins. But McCarthy is under contractual obligations to play for Everton.

So, if he keeps getting injured playing for his country of choice, Koeman should fine him a week's wages for every game he misses for Everton, irrespective of FIFA's obligations to pay the player's wages due to injury playing for his country of choice.

Mick Davies
41 Posted 23/03/2017 at 00:42:36
Tony @ 37, but scoring isn't his main duty: that's down to Lukaku, Barkley, Mirallas and others. And the last derby at Anfield was run by a rejuvenated Macca until he got injured.

As Joe @ 22 pointed out, the win against Arsenal was down to the engine room, bossed by James. He has been pushed further forward by Koeman and against Bournemouth he had an assist and a goal within half-anhour, and was again taken off through injury (I hope we're not seeing another Gibson theme here).

There's no doubt, a fully fit McCarthy is a major driving force in our side, and Koeman thinks so too – I just hope he doesn't become another serial sicknote.

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