The midfielder, on a season-long loan from Everton, fired home in the 83rd minute to score what proved to be the decisive goal in a 4-3 win at Brentford.
As he was when he made his debut last week, Dowell came on as a substitute, this time at the start of the second half and endeared himself further to the Forest faithful.
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1 Posted 12/08/2017 at 18:16:47
Could have done with him today, but then again, would Koeman have used him, as opposed to his favourites?
5 Posted 12/08/2017 at 20:43:01
6 Posted 12/08/2017 at 21:13:01
7 Posted 12/08/2017 at 23:27:26
8 Posted 12/08/2017 at 23:36:59
9 Posted 13/08/2017 at 01:06:27
Also, he looks a damn sight better in blue than red!
10 Posted 13/08/2017 at 02:23:48
11 Posted 13/08/2017 at 03:47:47
12 Posted 13/08/2017 at 04:51:21
13 Posted 13/08/2017 at 08:35:56
14 Posted 13/08/2017 at 09:48:54
Need I say any more?
15 Posted 13/08/2017 at 10:11:34
Made up for Dowell, but anyone who understands life, work, sport, would know that anyone who has just won a "World Cup" at whatever level, should be full of confidence and also chomping at the bit, which is why I'm so frustrated for the other two kids, I've just mentioned.
16 Posted 13/08/2017 at 10:35:01
That said, with regard to Koeman managing Dowell, the move to Forest will likely be beneficial, but at the same I can't help but feel that giving Dowell game time with us could be even more beneficial. Dowell has developed noticeably in a year, and there's every reason to think he could make an impact with us this season.
17 Posted 13/08/2017 at 11:05:29
18 Posted 13/08/2017 at 11:10:04
19 Posted 13/08/2017 at 11:14:18
What I did notice is his vision for a through-ball and that fact that the crowd were audibly excited every time he was on the ball.
20 Posted 13/08/2017 at 12:27:46
One for the future, or two, or three? But we will have to be careful because "players only love you, when they're playing". Especially if they think they are ready, and are not being given a chance?
Good to hear that about Dowell, Peter, because if a player can excite the crowd, then he's already on his way, and the experience that he's now gaining, will be invaluable in the future, and can only stand him well, in this very difficult sport. Let the young kids play, and they shall learn!!
21 Posted 13/08/2017 at 13:57:14
22 Posted 13/08/2017 at 20:20:00
23 Posted 13/08/2017 at 23:38:31
24 Posted 13/08/2017 at 23:59:52
Going to be very interesting following his progress there.
25 Posted 14/08/2017 at 00:13:18
Tyias Browning, 8/10 - Simply outstanding. Read play excellently all afternoon, showed excellent instincts, awesome showing.
Brendan Galloway, 4/10 - A clear weakness in the team. Awful in the first half, slightly better after the break.
26 Posted 14/08/2017 at 00:58:31
Galloway 7 Defended well and got forward at every opportunity.
27 Posted 14/08/2017 at 01:29:45
Dave (#21), Koeman mentioned that he wants more signings in the positions you're thinking of, but my opinion is that Koeman wants more experience rather than the youths we already got. I do think we already have bodies there but perhaps the step down is too risky to Koeman?
28 Posted 14/08/2017 at 10:52:40
They're both getting game time, though. That's the most important thing.
29 Posted 14/08/2017 at 11:34:02
I know people are saying it will take time for him (Klaassen) to adjust to the Premier League, but dDowell did well in preseason. I maybe missing something, but Dowell looked ready to make the step up.
30 Posted 14/08/2017 at 11:48:07
He's never going to develop just sitting on the bench. I'd have put him on instead of Mirallas on Saturday.
31 Posted 14/08/2017 at 11:56:12
Walker-Peters played left back in the same England Under 20 team as Dowell and more pertinently Jonjoe Kenny, who held the right back spot throughout the tournament.
Jonjoe Kenny was not in the squad for the first game of the season. Instead he played for the Everton Under-23s on Friday night, despite the fact that our own first-choice right back Seamus Coleman is recovering from a long-term injury.
Walker-Peters is a terrific prospect, and delivered a strong performance for Spurs which earned him the MotM award. Throwing him in on the first day of the season, away from home, at a club like Newcastle, could have back-fired. But it didn't. Pochettino clearly felt like Walker-Peters was up to it, and he was proved right.
I really wish that Koeman had done the same with Jonjoe Kenny. The fact he decided to play a system involving Calvert-Lewin as a right wing-back instead leaves me scratching my head in total bemusement. And if I was Kenny I reckon I'd be a tiny bit disillusioned.
32 Posted 14/08/2017 at 12:01:24
33 Posted 14/08/2017 at 12:37:45
Tell me what position you think Dowell plays.
Please don't tell me he's a winger.
34 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:01:15
The kids who do get a game are almost always Davies is the exception ones who were signed for fees, having been spotted by our Talent Master General.
35 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:08:04
36 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:17:37
Don't forget U23 games where you see him score isn't the whole picture. The lad is still very in and out of games. Talented, very, but needs a run of games which he is getting at Forest. And if he kicks on, he'll be in the squad next year.
37 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:40:41
Like all Evertonians, I want Klaassen to be a success, as with any signing we make, but apart from a shot into the side netting. I haven't seen anything from Klaassen, that Dowell couldn't do better. To me if your good enough your old enough. Like I said earlier, it's my opinion, and you have got yours.
Obviously Ronald doesn't see it the same way as me.
38 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:49:47
We also have Davies in midfield, along with Rooney, trying to sign Sigurdsson, and Dowell doesn't play in a defensive role. So can we just hope he does well and comes back an experienced player ready to push on in an Everton shirt?
39 Posted 14/08/2017 at 13:58:03
40 Posted 14/08/2017 at 14:39:18
41 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:07:18
Koeman isn't interested in anything other quick results so as to improve his profile in order to get a job with a BIG team. Player development isn't something he is interested in as he only has a maximum of two years left with us.
I have little faith in him as a manager.
42 Posted 14/08/2017 at 17:23:28
Except for Davies (19), DCL (20), Sandro (22) being starters, and Holgate (20) who has started 19 times for Koeman, and Lookman (19) who at least makes the gameday bench every time.
The stuff people write... geez.
43 Posted 14/08/2017 at 18:31:27
44 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:20:59
45 Posted 14/08/2017 at 19:47:09
46 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:00:43
But hey, if you want to believe that Koeman gives young players games based on who signed them, rather than how good they are, you go right ahead.
And you want to disbelieve all the folks here who have actually seen Dowell play many times for the U23s and say he's not yet ready for the Premier League, you go right ahead with that too.
47 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:05:08
I bow to your superior judgement.
48 Posted 14/08/2017 at 20:08:45
49 Posted 14/08/2017 at 21:16:52
My point was that he gives his young players opportunities based on his opinions of their play, not whether he signed them. IMO, if he picks Martina over Kenny, it's because he thinks Martina will do a better job. Not because a previous regime brought Kenny through the program.
Personally, I'd love to see Kenny get his chance, the sooner the better. But I don't see him in practice. Koeman does.
50 Posted 24/08/2017 at 01:06:30
51 Posted 24/08/2017 at 03:36:22
The sad thing about having a commercial monied approach to the game, although we are not at the Manure level, is that only the very exceptionally talented will push their way through. However many will achieve a solid career for themselves.
If it is a choice between a premier quality youngster coming through or a 'better' purchased star player, the the better player will likely be Moshiri's call. It is becoming a different world for us and the youngsters.
This argument holds up theoretically, but I am unsure about the position of Kenny at full back. However just because he hasn't been thrown into the first 11 during the first few games of the season does not mean he is a write off. Let's relax a bit and see where he is come mid-season.
Cuco Martina (much maligned) has put in some good performances so far and has established his credentials as a good squad player. It is a squad game after all.
Back on topic, I think Dowell will get his chance. Along with the likes of Walsh and Onyekuru, and I hope they are good enough to take it. DCL is taking his chance it seems and that has been a really pleasant surprise for me.
52 Posted 24/08/2017 at 05:40:01
53 Posted 24/08/2017 at 05:58:07
When Koeman first came I brought into the 'doesn't play youth' mantra too. He was forced into playing Davies but from then on he seems to have put more trust in the youth in general. Of which I'm very happy about. Possibly too much faith by throwing Pennington in against them lot for his first game of the season!
None of the lads who have gone out on loan are ready for the first XI, including Dowell. Koeman has his faults, but playing younger players isn't one of them. Not in my book.
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