Niasse's Palace switch falls through

Thursday, 31 August, 2017 60comments  |  Jump to most recent
Oumar Niasse looked to have finally secured a permanent move away in a deadline-beating deal with Crystal Palace but word is the transfer is off.

The striker was reportedly in London undergoing a medical with the Eagles ahead of what has been suggested could be £10m transfer from Goodison Park that would have gone a long way to seeing the Blues recoup their £13.5m outlay on him 18 months ago.

Had both parties agree personal terms, Niasse could have completed the move south tonight but The Guardian report that the deal has collapsed when agent fees failed to be agreed before the filing deadline.  

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Damian Wilde
1 Posted 31/08/2017 at 20:38:24
Jay Tee
2 Posted 31/08/2017 at 22:03:45
If it happens Good Luck to him. Never heard him complaining about what happened here.
Raymond Fox
3 Posted 31/08/2017 at 22:31:57
He scores goals. You know those elusive things were you kick or head the ball into the oppositions net!
Ah well, our manager knows what hes doing doesn't he!
Steve Carter
4 Posted 31/08/2017 at 22:51:36
Kinda my thoughts too, Raymond.
Mark Riding
5 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:09:49
Did this joker actually leave ?
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:10:54
Not yet mark, they're still haggling over a locker for him.
Brendan Fox
7 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:54:48
If the Niasse deal does not go through is there any actual chance of Sherlock giving him some 1st team game time as a No 9 to see if he can get some goals, build some confidence given he has just shy of 3 years of his contract left?
Paul Kossoff
8 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:58:18
I wouldn't complain if was on £60,000 a week. Transfer deadline has come and no sign of him having left.
Paul Thompson
9 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:59:33
Deal sheets went through and with FA.
Bill Gienapp
10 Posted 31/08/2017 at 23:59:56
Did this deal go through or what??
Henry Lloyd
11 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:27:57
I do not think Koeman has a clue what he is doing.
Andrew Keatley
12 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:31:05
Fucking omnishambles of a TTD for us. Unless Vlasic or Adeniran one day win the Ballon D'Or...
Steve Ferns
13 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:31:19
It's off. Confirmed that the paperwork was not completed. Explanation is over agents fees not being agreed in time.

I got the confirmation from the SSN reporter's twitter. Michael Bridge.

Andrew Keatley
14 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:31:28
TDD. It's late...
James Watts
15 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:34:54
Oh lordy me. What a TDD! Just chuckling away here. Don't know what else to do. New levels reached. Brilliant stuff all round.
Benny Snow
17 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:49:42
If Sandro, Rooney and Calvert-Lewin fail to deliver, Koeman should pull his head in and give the lad a chance.
John Smith
18 Posted 01/09/2017 at 01:54:13
Apparently his agent got greedy and Crystal Palace wouldn't pay what he demanded. Get a clue before rubbishing our club.
Brian Cleveland
19 Posted 01/09/2017 at 03:19:55
Reality check! Deal falls through because agents fees not agreed? Agents come before players and clubs... how pathetic and out of order is that?

So now we still have a player who the manager doesn't rate at all and won't play him, and the player wants to play. Held to ransom by friggin agents.

Get rid of the whole bastard lot of them. Worse than ambulance chasing lawyers!

James Watts
20 Posted 01/09/2017 at 05:00:27
The poor lad can't catch a break. Actually feel sorry for him.
Chris James
21 Posted 01/09/2017 at 05:52:41
Given the lack of a target-man signing, it does seem crazy to have this guy wasting away in the reserves - even if its just so we can ensure a 'shop window' we should give him a couple of games.
John Smith
22 Posted 01/09/2017 at 06:14:42
I agree, Chris James (#21).

He really wasn't given chance. Pre-season and coming out of an injury isn't the way to judge a player. I think Niasse, Rooney and Sandro could strike up a great partnership.

William Cartwright
23 Posted 01/09/2017 at 07:09:06
I think RK will remain an implacable, stubborn bugger over this though for what benefit or reason I can't imagine.

His potential as a late sub could really improve our goal difference statistics!

Trevor Peers
24 Posted 01/09/2017 at 07:21:31
Now we're stuck with Niasse until January at least, it's about time stupid Ron swallowed his pride and gave the lad a chance. We've got nothing to lose.

He's about the quickest forward we have on the books and has proved he can score goals in the premiership. It would be plain daft not to involve him.

Denver Daniels
25 Posted 01/09/2017 at 07:23:36
I wonder if Koeman will give him a game if injuries mount? Probably not. Must really not rate him if he's come out and said that Sandro and DCL are both not ready to step up full time. That leaves us with just our Wayne.
Rick Pattinson
26 Posted 01/09/2017 at 07:31:00
Right so he stays then for fxck sake give him the chance if he fails...we then try to get rid again...we have no other option but to give him a locker and play him
Phil Walling
27 Posted 01/09/2017 at 08:39:25
Both Niasse and Barkley could still be on the move - probably on loan to clubs in one of the countries whose window is open until late September.

Perhaps Russia, China or USA beckons ?

Colin Glassar
28 Posted 01/09/2017 at 08:44:30
Maybe he can become the striker Koeman so desperately wanted. Go on Moshiri, give your mate Jim White a call and have pictures of a smiling Niasse, holding an Everton shirt, taken next to transfer genius Walsh.
Ian Burns
29 Posted 01/09/2017 at 10:00:55
There is a very simple solution to the agent problem - apart from lining them up and shooting the ruddy lot!

They should be paid by the player because it is the player who engages them. If the club engages them, they should agree the fee before entering into any discussion on incoming or outgoing players.

However, my preference remains that we shoot the ruddy lot of them.

Ajay Gopal
30 Posted 01/09/2017 at 10:04:48
It is a crazy situation where he is allowed to play for the U-23s regularly (and does score some goals by the way), but is totally shut-out of the senior team. I think this is just plain stubbornness on the part of Koeman, and his stance has damaged our club greatly - both on the field as well as financially.
John Wilson
31 Posted 01/09/2017 at 10:11:47
The irony is, this is called 'the law of agency' as I recall. In legal theory, it is the principal (Niasse) who instructs his agent (gold bollocks, Mr T; rip-off merchant), but in reality... the agents (the brains behind the operations) manipulate the simple minded (Bambi/ Niasse).
Daniel A Johnson
32 Posted 01/09/2017 at 10:13:25
Fail to see how or why given the lads pace we cant at least use him as an impact sub late on in games.

He scored goals for Hull FC so he can score goals for us too.

John Wilson
33 Posted 01/09/2017 at 10:26:30
Commercially speaking, Crystal Palace have good PL background so Niasse playing for him could have opened up to a rather successful career. The only remedy Niasse has is to sue his agent for breaching his duty of care; and in contract too. I hope RK gives him a chance. However, our Iranian honcho was speaking on the 'Deadline...' on Aky Sports, who said we have agreed to use the strikers we already have, naming the new and usual suspects (paraphrasing).
Alan J Thompson
34 Posted 01/09/2017 at 11:01:38
I'd like to know how much the Agent was asking. If Everton are so keen to get shut then why did they not offer to pay the Agent's fee? I assume that as Brighton were quoted as having offered 10Mill then Palace were paying something similar so paying the 1 or 2mill to the Agent recovers some of the initial outlay for a player the Manager has said he will not consider under any circumstances.

A bloody poor show all round and from which Everton take no credit.

John Wilson
35 Posted 01/09/2017 at 11:02:20
Niasse is a disaster on the ball.. like scarily bad... never ask him to cross a ball and he's not that bad he can do passes one to one.. he can defend and most of all he can score. He is potentially quite reckless in his challenges.. I could see him being sent off or breaking someone's legs by accident.
Roberto Birquet
36 Posted 01/09/2017 at 11:28:40
I remember we got Cahill because Palace refused to pay his agent after a deal had been agreed for him to sign for Palace. Palace apparently said: "What? You work for him (Cahill). Get him to bloody to pay you." I really admired them even though we benefited from the thing.

Colin Glassar
37 Posted 01/09/2017 at 12:22:03
Niasse looked gutted last night standing next to Sakho. He's becoming like the mother-in-law who comes to stay for a few days and then six months later you still can't get rid of her.
John Wilson
38 Posted 01/09/2017 at 12:47:15
Niasse has 16v power in his legs rooney has 0-60 in about 4 hours
Dan Nulty
39 Posted 01/09/2017 at 12:48:19
Fifa have to do something about agents. They work for themselves and the players, not for the football clubs. They shouldn't get a penny from the clubs
James Ebden
40 Posted 01/09/2017 at 12:57:07
I agree Dan. The agents are an employee of the player. The player is contracted to the clubs. If a club agrees a price with another club, that should be it. Once personal terms are agreed, the agent takes his 15% of the salary over the contract. Why they are now asking up front fees I don't know. The whole game needs a serious shake up. Player power is destroying it, along with the ridiculous money involved now.
Brian Williams
41 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:23:36
Like a new signing! :-0
Jamie Morgan
42 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:31:17
I really feel sorry for the guy. He's done nothing wrong apart from be a bit shit!
Fuck it and give him Barkley's locker!
Ross can train on his own and keep his stuff in a carrier bag!
William Cartwright
43 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:33:52
What I find difficult to accept is no matter what political / commercial shenanagins went on behind the scenes of his transfer, Niasse just wants to play football.

Why has Koeman found it necessary to take the high moral ground and effectively treat him like shit is beyond me. He has shown he can contribute to premier league football and he should be given the opportunity to do so, either with Everton or whoever else he may be contracted to.

Koeman's behaviour in the matter shows a ruthlessness normally associated with an arrogant bully. Perhaps there is more to the unsavory goings on behind the scenes than meets the eye.

Jason Broome
44 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:35:49
We should play him now. We need another striker, he is a striker and with service from Rooney, Siggi, Barkley, Lookman and Sandro I think he might be a hidden threat.

If he fails to score then get rid. If he scores a lot then his value increases. No brainer.

Phil Sammon
45 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:42:32
'I feel sorry for him'

He's earning your salary in 3 days. Lest your heart bleed.

John G Davies
46 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:45:37
I don't think he is as bad as he's made out to be.
Is not, and never will be a top striker, but imo he showed good awareness of space on the pitch and made decent runs.
Bottom line is we didn't sign a centre forward, Calvert Lewin will be a very good player as he develops but he can't be expected to play every game
Niasse is available for selection, give him a go.
Nitesh Kanchan
47 Posted 01/09/2017 at 13:48:07
Niasse needs to stay strong here and fight for his place. Keep scoring for U23 and grab any chance if and when he gets from Koeman.

Just saw Moshiri with Sky video, at first I thought it was complete farce and disgraceful from him. But I would like to see him like that interacting with fans on the Everton site. At least that would show he is a caring owner.

Also, I liked some of the things he said giving Koeman 80% of squad he wanted barring 1 or 2 player he asked which I believe was too late. One of them I think was Vlasic and so only a striker was missed.

The only option were Llorente, Perez and Gayle.That would have been dealing with Swansea again and fighting the likes of Chelsea and Spurs who were offering Champions league and better wages. Perez wanted move back to Spain and Gayle was risky for 20 million and not tall enough. No one else was available. So 80% of squad are his players and there will be no excuses if they fail. It felt like Moshiri was demanding results from now on.

And no doubt he was pretty frustrated with Barkley, calling it a football surprise when Barkley pulled out of the deal after agreeing terms. The way he said he is under contract with us for a year, so he is our player and we can't do much about it said it all. For the first time, we have a player who is incurring loses to the club by staying rather than by leaving, compare that to Stones and Lukaku, who made huge profits.

Steven Kendrew
48 Posted 01/09/2017 at 14:20:50
Let's give the lad some game time. He's scored more Premier League goals than Sandro...
Steve Ferns
49 Posted 01/09/2017 at 14:38:52
Hold your horses guys! There is no way Niasse will be playing for us this season. He has been assessed by the management and found not to be good enough.

Now consider the footage of him that you have seen. All the good stuff is from long balls for him to run onto, or him running from deep at speed. If he has the ball at his feet, is running at top speed and has defenders backing up then he looks half decent, and yes he knows where the net is.

He wouldn't play that way for us. Instead he'd be back to goal looking to hold it up and lay it off. These are skills he doesn't have. He also seems to lack composure on the ball, his passing wasn't good when he played for us, and he didn't seem to have quick enough feet for tight spaces. He also seemed to be easily marked.

best I can see from Niasse, is as a late sub to throw on late in games, like Valencia, when space has opened up and he can run at defences.

Ronnie Pearce
50 Posted 01/09/2017 at 15:05:47
All those advocating playing Niasse should refer back to when he was arrested for alleged assault last year. According to a ToffeeWeb contributor, Joe Royle stated Niasse would not be allowed back to the senior squad.

Perhaps there are issues other than relatively poor football skills behind his omission.

Joe Foster
51 Posted 01/09/2017 at 15:19:10
Niasse is back to continue his old job of picking up all the dirty underwear off the changing room floor.
Bill Griffiths
52 Posted 02/09/2017 at 07:59:11
I would rather have him on the bench than Mirralas.
Alan J Thompson
53 Posted 02/09/2017 at 11:10:36
Ronnie(#50); You'd have him sat next to Rooney on the bench then?
John Wilson
54 Posted 02/09/2017 at 12:15:16
If Niasse is a criminal then by definition so is Rooney. Alleged assault is not conviction for assault; drink n driving charges = criminal by definition.
John Wilson
55 Posted 02/09/2017 at 13:23:59
Niasse has been included in Everton's 25-man Premier League squad. We all know why because of this disappointing striker transfer window. I suppose the board felt if he is good enough for Crystal Palace, he's good enough for an emergency – if we're desperately having our arses tanned by the top 4/ 6.

Ajay Gopal
56 Posted 02/09/2017 at 13:27:56
Ronnie (50), if there were 'other issues', how come those issues are not important enough for him to play for the U-23s, but suddenly become relevant when it comes to the senior squad? Does not make any sense.

I think (like in Barkley's case), Ronnie (the Manager, ha.. ha..) has painted himself into a corner and is not man enough to accept his mistake and gracefully give him another chance. This attitude is damaging the club big time, and I am surprised Moshiri is allowing Koeman to get away with it.

John Wilson
57 Posted 02/09/2017 at 13:56:09
Niasse can prove himself now as he has his Everton shirt, locker, for the Premier League team. If he does okay, at least scores when given the chance his future is not with Everton but can go in January to a Premier League club.

His prospects would have been better at Crystal Palace, but Niasse should be able to go there in the January window if he chooses.

We need a real striker, who can press, who can cross the ball; who can assist. We know Niasse is not that player but he will have to do for now.

Peter Howard
58 Posted 02/09/2017 at 23:54:25
John Wilson

You do understand the difference between charge and conviction?

Alan J Thompson
59 Posted 03/09/2017 at 10:25:23
Peter (#58); would that be the difference between being on the bench and appearing before the bench?
John Wilson
60 Posted 03/09/2017 at 11:20:39
A charge, in public law, is where the state (ie, the police, CPS), bases any evidence it has under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 et al, for crimes where the police or prosecution has a reasonable belief that the evidence has secured or can be secured, on a reasonable inspection of his person or his home (where the magistrate grants a warrant for search), albeit subject to an interim 'public interest' test, for instance is it in the public interest to prosecute or not prosecute.

Conviction, alternatively, is where the state (CPS lawyers) prove the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (OAPA) elements of crime; the actus reus (criminal act); the mens rea (intention, ie criminal/ guilty mind); and causation (link between the crime to the whomever, ie, the accused), without there being any 'reasonable doubt', notwithstanding applicable defences, inter alia self-defence, loss of control. In short, yes it's fair to say I know the differences between 'charge' (also security for payment of debt on a person's home or other buildings), and 'conviction'.

'Circumstantial', on the other hand is where something may appear via hearsay: first, second, third accounts; but does not prove any link in terms of cause or effect, except possibly correlation (ie, a link but not strong enough evidence); unless the evidence speaks for itself, is it res ipsa loquitur.

Nicholas Ryan
61 Posted 03/09/2017 at 21:45:22
Steve Ferns [49]. I was about to say 'Give him a chance' until I read your post: sadly, you're right!

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