Vermaelen backs Koeman for success with Everton

Honestly, lost so much interest at this stage that I couldn't give two poos who he buys, unless he changes into Carlo Ancelotti overnight.

Anyone with half a brain can see Koeman is a fraud. Big Ron is dead in the water and basically killing our club with him yet twats like Vermalen come out with this horseshit.

Koeman is now a legend only in his own mind and the sooner Barcelona come and take him the better.Oh wait a minute isn't Ronald next up for the Arsenal job? Koeman will be lucky to ever work again at the top level. FC Twente Koeman is all yours.

Hope Ronnie didn't catch sunburn over in Barcelona – well, you what these gingers are like in the sun.

What I do believe however is if Vermaelen's hero stays here much longer we will be in deep ess aitch I tee.

Makes us feel better though, getting it off our chests, doesn't it ?

I don't think we are going to be in any relegation fight, but we have a manager who refuses to select more than one of 5 world cup winning youngsters, has mainly dropped our 18 year old future midfield general, won't play a pacy young centre half, instead preferring a creaking old fading centre half; then refuses to pick wide players, or anyone with pace. Chops and changes formations and systems so no one knows where they are meant to be or what they are meant to be doing, often in mid match. I'm sorry but it is a complete mess and there is only one man responsible for it.

But nevermind, maybe he will get an idea or two from the golf course in Spain. It's not like he can get the players left behind in and do some work defensively or watch some tapes.

Maybe none of our team fancies backing up Koeman.

We all know he'll be gone by Christmas... I just can't see the point now.

Lukaku kept us respectable and teams coming g to Goodison were petrified of Romalu. Who do we have now to worry defences?

No I'm sorry this season's crap is a continuation of last season's crap.Weve been shite since the end of February. Time to go now Ronaldo.

Koeman is patently not Pochettino.

,"In 2014 there were similar cries to sack Pocchetino. You don't hear those voices now."

Koeman is patently not Pochettino.

,,,1,16:43:23,,81.108.253.187,ok,19747,10/06/2017 16:43:23,Overdrive,reader,, 857382,35596,toffeeweb,06/10/2017,Phil Walling,philwalling@hotmail.co.uk,"Sorry, Steve, I have my misery moments and shouldn't have picked you out for today's target. I am ,of course aware that some of our number like all that guff about tactics - and good luck to them - you just go into far too much speculation for me.

Where I'm totally with you is on the selection of the next -and any manager. It's clear Moshiri and his mates didn't do too much probing into the Dutch clown's managerial record and as I've said previously there's no guarantee that the next bugger will be any improvement.

As Randy Lerner said on selling Villa for a knockdown price 'However much money you throw at it you are only ever one manager away from disaster !'Are we there with this one ?

One difference- the fans are boycotting the matches so the stadium is empty. Moshiri would have to sort this out if Goodison is empty besides Kenny and Woody exchanging worried glances and the toffee lady has no one to throw sweets too .

Not that it's ever going to happen.

Image is surely important for the 'brand', and annoyed supporters voting with their feet could wield power 'effectively' if not directly.

Even if it did and you got the desired reaction, it would mean nobody with half a brain would ever manage the club again.

Then, if you take TW as a guide, you'd also have partial walkouts, walk-ins by others, people claiming they walked out first, others who despise walkers full stop and want run-outs. Now that would cause huge tactical confusion for some of the intellectually challenged fans.

Then there is press coverage. Red-BBC would be damned for not reporting the crowd was 6 and continuing to focus on the 48,000 who enjoyed the last RS draw. Half of the six were reporters anyway the diehards would claim and the debate would get toxic when Paul Ferry proves that Jim Fallow is a reporter and a Blue. Jim gets personal threats and Ferry is accused of not looking at the big picture.

So yeah Oliver, might work!

but I keep going back to what happened with Ross - there is much more to that than meets the eye, that must have had an effect on the others and indicates an underlaying trend of "my way or no way"

i have long been an admirer of the ginger Mouhrinio - we should move for him now, yes he has no European experience and yes he was relegated with Burnley (don't compare that to Wigan) but he gets the job done, sometimes ugly, sometimes overly defensive but what he does do it get everyone fighting for the cause with their last breath and that is what we need to be doing. I don't want Ancelotti or any other of the big heads - maybe Eddie Howe but there is a streak if Roberto in there that worries me. The one thing that keeps coming back is how did Ross fall out of love with his boyhood club, and for that my gut feeling is Koeman. You know what they say about the Dutch - wooden boats, wooden shoes, wooden listen .

Yes performances have been off, and yes we didn't replace our striker and the Ross contract is an odd one; but we have also taken on a lot of new players and had a horrible opening run of fixtures.

We are work in progress and will have to go through more pain before we can consider ourselves serial challengers for top four and cups; see Chelsea 1990s and City 2000s, it was not overnight, and throw in Spurs, who for all the money they've spent have achieved nothing - this club is 10-20 years behind in terms of structure and revenue; a new stadium will assist. As a fan, I'm part of that and will do my bit, good and bad...

However, the lack of any real fan power or voice, means the people behind the transition of football clubs to the intense businesses they now are, have played on fan loyalty without compunction for too long. Most businesses can't get near that kind of following. It's not ideal from our end.

I would also wholeheartedly disagree with him. Koeman has shown no evidence whatsoever he has any idea how to rectify this mess.

At the end, there is no chance – you need ability. The last thing Koeman cares about is Everton.

I am not looking for the nonsense and PR garbage that is going to be associated with Everton in the near furture. Hopefully Koeman is gone sooner than later.

Andrew, are you aware where we currently sit in the table?

6/7th in a chimp's cock!

Business Like Arrangement

On another note I do hope that Sky see sense and don't move our home game with Chelsea to Xmas Eve.

The word ‘Okay' is starting to become as annoying as ‘Phenominal'). So ‘okay', he might have been a good player but he's not a good manager and he's proved that himself.

His management of Barkley makes me spit bullets. The thought of Ross going to Spurs and getting back into the England fold angers me because that is what will happen if we don't retain him. He is better than Klaasen all day long and he's a blue.

I'm with Vermaelen... not I, says I.

If Vermaelen had been anywhere near you then more might be inclined to listen.

How many Everton games do you reckon he has sat down to watch, this season or last?

He has been near Koeman in the past and may hope to get close to him again at some point in the near future. He's speaking out of loyalty (whilst leaving the door to a possible escape route ajar), not after taking a long hard look at the teams current failings and thinking "I can see what Ron is trying to do there".

I was talking about Pancho Vermaelen out of the Wild Bunch.

Looks through squinted eyes with a curled lip... "Si Senor"

Hard fucker him.

"I am calm and will will work with my staff to get those results. I am exactly the same coach as when it was going well."

Let's hope he is right and that many of us are wrong as that's what is best for Everton FC in the short-term at least.

The thing that wrinkles my fur, is that so many good players, even Ashley Williams, I used to watch Swansea and Wales and think, he's Mr Consistent, and many others, under Koeman's coaching, have suddenly become headless chickens.

Then there is young Lookman, what a breath of fresh air he was, when he first came, and now he won't even play him, you can tell by player's body languages that something is amiss, both in spirit, (or rather lack of it) and their demeanour and lack of game plan on the pitch.

It would by a travesty if Lookman and a few other talented young guns were to drift away. There is a posse of Clubs with Spurs at the head after Ademola.

They obviously see something that we all can, but Koeman can't, it's as if he stifles talent for some unknown reason. Play well, and you get dropped.

I think most would agree that Schneiderlin has been awful this season, and yet, if he is breathing, he gets the nod over anyone, who could do a much better job.

Personally, I would give him the next two games, a win and a draw, or, two wins, playing with some style, anything less is, Taxi!

I'm not Koeman's biggest fan at the moment; I understand his holiday is giving his daughter away at her wedding.

I feel exactly the same, Mark... and you just know as sure as the day dawns that Ross will be gone if Koeman and let's face it, certain of the club's higher management, get their way. It borders on a deliberate lowering of quality.

Klaassen, Sigurdsson and others are better than Koeman's mess is allowing them to be, but they'll never get near what Barkley is.

But experience tells me you need to be self aware. I've had times when younger that I rested on past successes and did less hours but also achieved sod all. This was a direct route to being in the shit!

Derek, the unknown reasons are:

1. This is Koeman's management and team playing "Style".

2. He was brought in to do this job. Consolidate with lower level players.

Those running the club are not blind to anything. The only spanner in the works of the plan so far is that Koeman has not quite managed to get the team playing to the level of 7th in the table. Should he do that or we scrape through the group in Europe, it will be business as usual.

Inevitably one tries to draw parallels and certain aspects of the film made me feel quite hopeful for Everton as one is reminded that after every storm there is a rainbow. And as the saying goes..."If you have eyes you will find it, if you have wisdom you will create it"...

Over to you, Ron.