Williams disappointed Everton's effort wasn't rewarded

I don't know if the behaviour of the idiot in the crowd throwing punches has been mentioned elsewhere on here but I sincerely hope they can identify him and he's 1) banned for life from Goodison and 2) he gets his comeuppance in the criminal justice system.

I have no issue with the scrap itself – it shows there is some pride in the players and proves they care about the mess they are in.

Koeman Out, Rhino In.

To get into that kind of a barney right by the Park End fans is stupid beyond belief, and to be honest I'm surprised more of the dickhead fans didn't get involved. We've got quite a few of them, as we all know, and it clearly took a lot of restraint for some of them just to shout and point rather than get stuck in.

All the players involved should be fined two weeks wages minimum. It's bad enough being a laughing stock for our football, but to be considered worse fans than the knobheads across the park is unacceptable.

If the club does anything about it they should see that he never wears the blue shirt again, never mind being given the honour of the captain's armband.

As for the "fans", well done boys, that image of our club has gone around Europe and probably the World. How anyone would bring a small child out on a night like last night let alone to a football match is beyond me and then to get involved in the fighting leaves me speechless.

All the good work by EitC and our support for good causes like little Bradley is now forgotten and the image people will now have of our great club is the shamefull footage from last night, and all thanks to Williams. Over to you, Mr Chairman.

The first time I have semi-woken from my boredom-induced coma since the season started.

Tony (#21) – Really? One little skirmish that will be forgotten in a couple of weeks and you are ashamed? Fuck me... you've picked the wrong sport to follow.

Passion! FFS. Passion is Peter Reid with blood running down his leg but still chasing down Bayern players, Phil Neville clattering Ronaldo fairly, everything Tim Cahill did for the club.

Williams is just an over-weight, immobile, yard dog who should hang up his boots. I can't believe the other clown has just given a press conference and defended Williams because Wales lost and we're having a bad time, boo hoo. Unbelievable – and still not sacked.

I'm disappointed someone saw fit to name you captain of our great club. ,"Williams disappointed Everton's effort wasn't rewarded"
I'm disappointed someone saw fit to name you captain of our great club. ,Turned on,BlueKfrog,1,14:09:15,,85.255.232.72,probation,19753,10/20/2017 14:09:15,Berniebassett1,probation,, 860647,35676,toffeeweb,20/10/2017,Graham Murphy,grahamj.murphy@hotmail.co.uk,"I feel very sad that some on this forum are condoning the actions of a madman last night. Williams should be docked a minimum of 2 weeks wages (to go to local charities) for his behaviour.

There is no place in our great club for what he did. Koeman should have subbed him as soon as the melee was over.

I am ashamed that our club has totally ignored the real instigator of the trouble as though he wasn't even present. On other social media and the BBC site, the club is being dragged through the mud today – all because of Williams!

I've picked the wrong sport? Well, that's just the point – thuggery is not a sport. I'm all in favour of playing hard and I played against some mean guys in my youth (fat Harold anyone?). But what Williams did was pathetic and could have reduced the team to 10 men.

I care about Everton and what took place last night has only damaged the club. If you think that's nothing... well, that's your opinion but I stand by my comments.

Yes, you want players with steel, but this incident, which looked like a forearm across the goalkeeper's chest, could have been far worse. Imagine in the speed of the moment if it had hit the keeper in the throat? His neck could have been broken and there is potential for fatality.

When you go in like that, anything can happen. He is in deep shit when the authorities and the club look closer at that.

Club Captain? – a disgrace more like it; ship him out.

What you saw from Williams wasn't passion, it was cowardice, born out the frustration which comes with not being good enough.

If he went for a 50-50 where he could have been hurt himself, I could have accepted it, but he went for a man who was unprotected because he had his arms in the air holding a ball.

I don't condone what he did but, fuck me, it's hardly a dark day for our great club.

A complete non-event as far as I'm concerned. Had it not been on here and on every football website, I'd have forgotten about it by now.

I'm for the Everton players of old, like Brian Labone and Colin Harvey, who led by example and let their play do the talking.

What about all the flying elbows, scything and over-the-top tackles that go on most every match day?

Thought the ref got it completely right. He stood off and let them get on with it. He then correctly gave both protagonists a yellow card.

Who knows what was said in the melee to Williams that made him react in that way but I can guess by the way he reacted. Correct decision to ban the supporter but, if he does get done for assault, Williams shouldn't be. Williams had a fine game, IMO.

Yes, mate, you're right – it was handbags.

I was at the Leeds game in the 60s when Sandy Brown was sent off after 3 mins and both teams were taken off by the ref before half-time to cool down. I've seen Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith, Bruce Rioch, Nobby Stiles et al.

So-no one is is suggesting Williams is in their league but when you talk about "over-reaction" that was precisely what he did. Look at the media today and the club being dragged through the mud.

Yes, I know that the press and TV will love having a go and Uefa too in time – and that's the real issue. The harm it's done the club and the harm it could have done the team on the night is my concern.

If he has "fire in his belly" and drives the team on without doing something as stupid as last night, I'm totally fine with that. Peter Reid and Jimmy Gabriel were able to do that and, if Williams can do too, then great.

(Says a lot about the others in the defence, though, as he was the best we had last night.) But assault, disgrace etc? Get a grip!

A poor challenge by a poor player nothing more or less

Tony, I rather think most sentient humans can easily distinguish between long-term charitable work by a football club, and an incident at the ground.

His goal celebration to my eye was not one of ‘come on we can win this' but more ‘fuck you twats, what do you know'. The veritable act of defiance. It actually looks like he turns the main stand and just wants to flicks the ‘Vees' at everyone, but finds, erm, the restraint he'd lost only moments earlier to jog on back.

He is the symbol of the club failing to adapt to increasing expectations. Bought to defend and organise, he looked decent last season as he never had to cross the halfway line.

Everton have evolved, new players, heavy investment in both the players and the manager sold to us as ambition.

Like Everton Williams has failed to adapt, poor with the ball at his feet and required to push higher up the field he is exposed to more one-on-one defending. In recent weeks, he has completely unravelled, as have the club.

His story runs a parallel with the club. The irony is that, if we become sucked into a relegation battle, he will be the defensive stopper we need.

"Looked like, imagine, if, could, potential, anything can happen".

Williams essentially placed his arm firmly against the keeper's stomach and then pushed him. Watch "Everton vs Lyon fight" on YouTube for a close-up. Dangerous, though rare but possible incidents, are what happened to Ryan Mason, in the legal course of the game.

You should write horror stories, John!

What we need at the moment is a steady hand. Forget aspirations, we are getting too far away from the top, let's just get stable, and try to move gradually, get something out of one of the cups, and try for a top seven finish.

We don't have the squad for a European campaign. We have tried to rebuild with a shed load of money which has been wasted. As regards the youngsters, get them in and try things out, they will get match fit and match ready.

I hate to say this as I love the club, but I don't now have any expectation apart from a desire to see the team come good, and use the assets we have. We need to be in a position to build and progress steadily. We have all the pieces in play to do that.

Koeman, I don't know, on paper he looks fairly good. I thought he would have done a good job; sadly he hasn't. Time to move on. The talk of getting top marque managers is just bull. Let the Mourinho's and Pep go and manage at a Championship side without any money, see how good they are then. What we need is someone who is Everton, and has some passion.

Look at the other teams at the bottom. They've got Benteke, Defoe, Vardy and Chicarito. We've got Niasse. Yes, I've left out Stoke but they should also be worried.

If that happened on the street, he would have been arrested and it's no different on the football field. If that happened to on the street, you would have a different tale to tell.

The lads are hurting and if that gees them up then I don't see it necessarily as a bad thing. The play-acting from Lyon, and especially their keeper, had gone unpunished all game and frustration boiled over. And the Lyon players, Traore in particular, couldn't wait to get involved.

I for one hope that this has a galvanising, backs to the wall, Dogs of War effect and we see results start to change. Arsenal don't like it up 'em.

By the way, by nature I consider myself a pacifist. My leniency over this incident may well be Bourne from my own frustration and delight at some sign that the players actually give a shit.