Niasse: I wouldn't let Ronald Koeman get to me

However, like Niasse deserved more of a chance (although I think he is not good enough on limited playing time admittedly I've seen him play) I think we should definatley persevere with Unsworth as long as possible. It would be great to see one of our own do well.

The PR at the time was completely different and must admit I did not condemn his treatment at the time.
I was just was under the impression that he would be sold as soon as possible. He would have had his contract paid up and would be laughing all the way to the bank.

That the exclusion treatment seemed to go on for so long is not excusable.

If anyone comes back with 'well for £60k a week I wouldn't mind' needs to take a hard look at themselves.

I think we've just said goodbye to a bus driver. And I hope Unsy is our Hamilton.

Bring it on, if that be the case, people should not be allowed to treat fellow human beings like that, in this day and age.

It has increased my respect for the lad even more now.

James, for £3 million a year I would have run around Finch Farm every day in a Borat mankini.

But that's not the point. Manners don't cost anything and money has nothing to do with it.

Spare us, Chris. Spare us. Not very naaaas, I'm sure.

Simply facts are he is the only person scoring right now and dare I say the only player giving it his all. Give the lad a chance; if it does not work, then fair enough.... but, from what I can see, he is trying hard for the team – and that must count for something?

You turn up at work and keep getting told you aren't welcome and aren't important. That takes it toll, you must have a very thick skin.

Totally agree with your last sentence, good manners and treatment cost very little.

By the way wouldn't run around in a Borat mankini for any amount of money. Jeez wouldn't wish that on the missus, let alone anyone else.

Each to their own, James.

As soon as Koeman said publically what he said about Niasse, I considered Koeman unprofessional. A conclusion only reinforced by his subsequent public utterances about Lukaku needing to go to a bigger club, about Barkley, and about Mirallas.

Wow, Koeman, did you like him or not,? You really need to stop sitting on the fence.

Methinks that Dutch managers and coaches need to brush up bigtime on their man management skills. They seem to be non-existent. And have been now for a few years. None of them have in recent times have been covered in much glory. And didn't a Dutch world cup squad not so long ago all fall out with each other. It seems a Dutch thing. Everything ends in a fall out. Yes I'm generalising. But they do fall out a lot.

But Koeman and his cronies take some beating. Niasses treatment was appalling. It doesn't matter what he earns. What has that got to do with anything?

Moshiri and BK should have put Koeman on gardening leave. Let him nowhere near the first team. Take away his office. Take away everything. Force Koeman and his brother to walk away.

But does anybody really care what he does anymore. I don't really. But it is galling paying for failure

Anyhow .how about a few goals from Niasse tonight. This could just be the fairytale that we all wish would happen. And I don't care how scrappy the goals are.

Koemans gone. And The Niasse man just keeps on and on. More power to the guy. Is he our modern day Trebelcock. Well lets hope that he plays and scores a few more than that guy managed.

Good luck to all tonight COYBs.

At this moment in time he is valuable to our squad and more than just a cult hero or martyr, he has demanded to be involved on form alone.

Raymond Fox yes. Wouldn't it be great if Oumar could become our Fox (in the box)! Get someone else do the fancy control and skill work and feed him balls to pounce on. That's what he seems ok at.

Koeman (and cohorts) is/are a disgusting cretin of this is true. No wonder the players wouldn't give their lives for him.

I think I read somewhere that the Niasse family suffered quite badly at home as a result of the political landscape where he come from. Not sure that they may not even have been displaced or something but I could be way off the mark there. I could have just dreamt all that.

Anyway, the point is if that has been his upbringing and introduction to life and authority, and the family pulled through, then having to deal with arrogant sods like RK is probably no big deal. But if Oumar's skills were as adept as is brain we would have the African Messi on our hands.

Moving forward I'd rather we had more of a coach than a manager – I don't like the ivory tower stuff.

At the end of the day, however ungainly he might be, isn't he employed to put the ball in the net? And isn't that what he does, reasonably often?

With regular game time, Niasse could surprise us all. It remains to be seen if he gets the chance. Koeman has persisted with DCL who so far hasn't scored once in the Premier League. Niasse, with limited game time has already hit three plus one in the league cup. Not too shabby, Kumar.

His treatment at Koeman and his cronies hands doesn't surprise me at all. This, after all, was Koeman's style at Valencia and other previous clubs. His arrogance and dictatorial attitude perhaps explains why he isn't fondly remembered at any of his previous clubs, except perhaps at Ajax.
Bad manners and poor man management will mean Koeman will probably never achieve the greatness he craves as a manager. He is millions of miles away from managing Barcelona who would never tolerate his methods, and as for Holland, his country has enough problems without allowing him to upset their best players. In short, I fear his time with us has exposed him for what he really is, a very poor manager, dining out on the back of his reputation as a player, with little to recommend him as a football manager or as a compassionate, caring human being. Glad to be rid of such an appalling man.

I'm not looking to defend Koeman in his treatment of players, but of the nine player's you have mentioned, possibly only Lookman and Barkley have been dealt poor hand's.

McCarthy should have known better than to turn out for Ireland on at least three ocassions, when clearly not fully fit, and EFC have paid the price for that in him not being available to select from, that's hardly Koeman's fault, you probably need to blame the arrogant git O'neill for that.

Mirallas has constantly spat his dummy out almost on a regular basis since his time at Everton,either when he's been 'hooked' or not selected. How many opportunities has he been given at this club? His attitude stinks the place out, how's that the fault of Koeman?

Barkley need's to 'grow a pair' quite frankly, he certainly hasn't 'kicked on' in the manner we all thought, but I concur, Koeman's public comment's about the player were not helpful, but neither is being in a dodgy bar in Liverpool City centre, and putting yourself at risk from the lowlife such establishment's attract.

Lookman hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip, and after a bright start was dumped by Koeman, never to be seen again. Simply not fair on the young player.

The other's, Jags, Barry, Baines etc, should have been 'eased' out a couple of year's ago in my opinion, great servants, but their clearly past their best.

But certainly Jags and Baines can't have too many complaints about their treatment surely?

Robles was a disaster waiting to happen, how has he been treated badly by Koeman?

You clearly made your mind up about Koeman a long time ago, but to blame him for treating ALL of the above named player's badly is simply unfair.

Always in the back of their mind would be the thought of scaring off future employees.

Poor Oumar, forty grand a week, at a guess. Koeman the bullying bastard and poor Oumar, forced to sleep rough. This is really kicking a man when he is down. Oumar, is shite and if we have any aspiration at all then poor Oumar should not be remotely part of our future. He is not a fucking martyr.

What an absolutely rotten, ill informed comment. The suggestion that Niasse's wages somehow make him immune from being impacted by a humiliating attempt from his ex boss (that in any other profession would be grounds for disciplinary action) to ostracise and manage him out is among the most reductive, ignorant of arguments I've seen on these pages.

The point being, its clear that some players respond better to positive feedback than hard nosed abuse ( what else could you call Niasse's treatment?)
I am glad he is gone, tonight was the best performance of the season, with a team of players that have not played together they looked better than any match this season.

Obviously it changes the context of things. Therefore I accept that my post # 52 was unfair and ill judged. I withdraw it unreservedly.

Ok you don't rate a player but don't humiliate him. Tell him you are not in your plans and it would be best for the club and him we found a new club for you.

Regardless of the money these guys earn everyone needs to be treated with respect. Manner, politeness and decency cost nothing!

I have a feeling Koeman ruled by fear! Niasse was an example and gave a clear indication of what could happen it you don't follow his line. That never works in my view and starts a rot inside out.

Too indicative of what happens too often in the corporate world. Senior execs ruling by fear with their own personal ambitions ahead of the good their staff and the company.

I am down from the soap box!

Even if an environment is toxic a good manager will try to protect/deflect that from his staff so they can perform to their best ability. I don't think Everton (the company) is toxic. In fact I think it is the other way - too soft!

In that you then have Koeman who I think it is being shown is a self-centred bully who cares about himself. Had the 3 year project worked he would have been off - we were a stepping stone in his eyes.

When we talk of senior players they are still relatively young in life. If you have a big personality of a manager who rules by fear that can be difficult to challenge.

Exactly my thoughts... why do people always have to tell us that he isn't good enough when he is scoring goals for fun...?

You are completely right in your post (#10)

The 'pundits' keep talking about us missing a striker. That is bull! Lukaku was never the striker that made his own chances. The team did his work. The problem is we are not making chances.

Everytime we play him he scores. He reminds me a bit of Kevin Campbell. He is not Ronaldo but he will get you goals!

He also must have a steel backbone! I am not sure I could have been as gracious being humiliated like he has been! Full respect for him!

Everton NOT in the community!

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Money's got nothing to do with how you're treated at work. This was massively out of order.

So, we've seen another pro at the club treated with a similar cold shoulder. Regardless of what he earns he's a young man who is widely considered to lack a bit of confidence. He's been publicly criticised and ridiculed/lied about by the club's management.

So let's see what comes out next. Doesn't show our club in a great light.

This isn't a criticism of DCL but more to make the point that you want a striker to score goals and Niasse seems to have that ability. In my mind, he's worthy of at least being in the squad.

Koeman should have been sacked for treating a player this way and taken to court, surely it wouldn't have cost us a penny of his contract as he must have broken many rules with this behaviour.

Also no wonder he lost the players, who in the right mind would give 100% for a twat like that.