Unsworth: 'Incredible' win was for the fans

I'm not sure about his managerial abilities long term, but there's no outstanding candidate for the job, why not let him have it until the end of the season and let's see if Silva can prove himself a better candidate than Unsworth. I'm not sure on Dyche being anothing other than another Moyes at best, fat sam is too corrupt and should be banned from football not just England, tuchel is hardly banging on our door. So let's see how well Unsworth can do Given time.

It's worth remembering that he's still yet to have two consecutive days of training yet, such has been the speed of games. I think he is a coach, and can coach this team to play better and to win and with a striker in January we can climb back to 7th.

If he isn't our next manager, then you can guarantee that whoever it is will not have the same level of passion for our club.

They would however, undoubtedly have more managerial experience.

It is heart, desire and a genuine love for the club, verses experience. Ideally we could find someone with both but I'm not sure that person exists.

At least under Rhino, we have shown that we wouldn't go down without a fight.

Unsworth is unlikely to squander millions in the market. He will put his faith in the youth and just buy where he is short, like a striker.

A new manager is likely to want to spend big on 5 or more players and that's just a complete waste of money.

Providing he can keep us in at least mid table (12th or above) this season, then let's see what he can do and if there can be some long term progression.

Dyche also needs to show he can do more than just back to the wall defending, so rest of the season for him might be good.

Tuchel is someone I would like, but the board would have appointed him already if he did want it. There'd also be some rumours and it's all quiet really.

There's no other candidates for me really. So I'd hope for Unsworth until the end of the season. If it is not the turning point then you can get your brown paper bags ready and call up the bung master.

I bet the crowd at the game would have had him at 80% or so, falling over the coming week.

I'd like to see him until Christmas. If we need a change then, we'll we need a change... But I can only see that being us having to get in an escape artist.

A top notch manager is going to need more control than we can give them mid season. And frankly, name's like Dyche just aren't top notch - he is only their through his club backing him. Let's not hurry ourselves to another expensive 'experienced' mistake.

Oh, and I fucking love Rhino's passion!

We can't settle for second best as no doubt we'll we'll be in this position again in 12 months or so from now. Plus we can't afford another $100m+ on a short term project.

I'd like Silva long term and would wait for him to come. Allardyce is another option until the end of the season if Unsworth is not deemed to be up to the Job.

Great 3 points today but in terms of building a cohesive team nothing has changed and maybe won't until key players are fit and we can bring in players in Jan window.

Too many players, especially the younger ones, moved up from the u23s, talk about "Unsy". Clearly, they love the guy and will do anything for him, but they wouldn't have called Koeman a nickname, not to his face!

10 years ago, it would be Mr Unsworth or Gaffer or Boss. The players should stick to that.

While we're at it, could anyone have seen Lukaku getting his head down and getting stuck into the opposition in an attempt to get us back into the game when we'd gone two nil down?

Niasse positively pulled the team along with him an a wave of positivity and enthusiasm this afternoon. That's the spirit that wins matches. Give him a gold plated locker and another new suit.

(Maybe we should put in a cheeky bid to take him back)

Give me Oumar's guts, determination and humility any time against Rom's ego and "I should be in the Champions League" mentality, and to hell with the team that nurtured and developed him for three years. Has he said one good thing about Everton since he went to Utd? Not a sausage, and just compare his attitude with Niasse who has gone through hell under Koeman, been called all kinds of crap, and yet still appears to love pulling on the blue shirt and being an Everton player .

When looking at Oumar Niaase, a line from the movie Cool Runnings, the film about the first Jamaican bobsled team comes to mind...

"I see pride, I see power, and I see a bad assed mother who won't take no crap off of anyone '

Like the guys in that movie, Niasse has just got on with his task, done everything that's been asked of him, and done it all with everyone deriding him and laughing in his face.

Now, who's laughing Mr. Clueless Koeman? If he continues his current strike rate, Niasse is currently on target for between twelve to fifteen goals for the season, not too bad from the number of minutes he's had so far. I think most of us would accept that as a good return, given that his league season didn't really start until the Bournemouth game and of course, a few days before that, he scored against Sunderland too in the League Cup.

We are into November and he is currently our joint top scorer, with Rooney. More power to his elbow, I say. He's a breath of fresh air and given a decent run in the team, he can only continue to improve as his understanding with his team mates gets better and better with each game he plays.

Lukaku is already looking for excuses at Utd, now saying he still has lots to learn and that he wants to learn to be a provider as well as a scorer. Hey, guess what. Rom. They shelled out for a goal machine, like you told anyone who'd listen was what you are. Now it seems you aren't as perfect as you think you are.

When the going gets tough...and all that. Man Utd fans are perhaps beginning to learn that Lukaku has a dark, sulky side and can go to sleep in games and doesn't always put in a full shift, as most of us know, unlike Niaase, who just keeps going, chases lost causes and never gives up.

Maybe, just maybe, there was something in that Russian player of the year award after all.

Did anyone hear talksport this morning. Jim White had a lengthy chat with Alan Brazil, as a taster for his show to come, starting in 20 minutes. He said he had been at Everton for the game. That he was a guest in the "boardroom" ( I think he meant he was in the directors box). There was some fluff Moshiri wants passed on to the fans about what a great club, what great fans etc etc.

What was of interest was this. I now believe that there will be no manager announcement just yet. It sounds like Moshiri wants a big name again, and there is no big name available. He said how Unsworth embodies the qualities associated with Everton, and that he is on the shortlist.

This sounds to me like Unsworth is going to get the job on an interim basis until the end of the season and meantime they will work on bringing in a big name.

I won't be listening when the show comes on, and would appreciate if someone can keep us informed. Cheers.

All those out there who mentioned Moyes for a possible return to Everton just watch this dour negative loser ruin West Ham. Thank God we deserved the Grim Reaper.

I have nothing against Craig Shakespeare; but that Fat Maggot is a different story altogether. No doubt he will ensure safety, but I'd rather stick with Unsy than him.

I still maintain that we really need a long term solution as opposed to a quick fix. We have had more than enough mediocrity and inept management over the last thirty years.

Personally, although I have said Unsy as opposed to Allardyce; I would rather long term have Dyche or Tuchel.

Perhaps give Rhino a run of games until New Year, and make a decision then.

I want it to work out for him and the fans, but everyone knows, it's a result and performance business.

We have lost:
Koeman - manager
E. Koeman - coach
Kuiltenberg - fitness coach
? - goalkeeper coach

Unsworth and Ebrell replace the Koeman brothers, Unsworth brought in his mate as goalie coach, i'm unsure about a fitness coach. This also has a knock on effect on the Youth Academy, who are down coaches.

If Unsworth gets it until the end of the season, he can bring in some much needed coaching additions, both to the first team and to the academy.

He has transformed Burnley on a budget, okay they went down, probably because of that limited budget; not easy competing against teams who have paid more for one player, than you have spent on the entire squad.

Having gone down, he bounced straight back again, not many do that. He has regularly beaten the big guns with his limited side. His motivation skills can't be questioned.

I don't think he tolerates passengers or gravy train freeloaders. Glad to note that Unsy reprimanded Schneiderlin and Mirallas for the same trait.

I'm still thinking the message is we want a big name and in the meantime that we would leave Unsworth in charge until the end of the season.

Thats all.

And we will finish 7th at.least

For example:
Ancelotti - would he properly motivated (or just here for the money)? Can he manage well at the wrong end of the table? Can he sort out our issues on the training ground? Would he just want to buy 15 new players?

Tuchel - Can he do it outside of Germany? Would his personality translate to the Premier League? Would his tactics work? Can he adapt?

Silva - he is still new to the Premier League, he did well at Hull but ultimately he fell short and they were relegated. Watford started very well, but their current trend is dropping down the table, so is this normal Watford? are they actually any better? Can he actually fix our issues? Is he solid enough defensively? Can he fix our defence?

Allardyce - can he fix our defence and team without signing players? Will he sign a load of old players for a short term fix at the expense of our brilliant youth setup? Will there be lasting damage as a result? Will a high turnover of playing staff lead to massive losses on our big signings from the Koeman era? If Allardyce does fix the issues in the short term, can he change his tactics and adapt a more passing / attacking game to chase after the top 6? Would he want a contract beyond the end of the season, and would this be non-negotiable? How would he close the gap on the top 6, for which he has no experience?

Dyche - very good at managing Burnley, but this is a particular setup where he is on the backfoot and defending and countering. Can he make the switch to attacking teams and getting wins against teams who setup the way he is used to setting up? Can he fix the problems with us defensively in the short term? Burnley do not score a lot of goals, how can he get us scoring again? Burnley have only scored the same amount as us! Can he attract the big players? Can he work magic away from Burnley? He has a relegation on his record, so is he actually a good manager in a relegation dogfight?

Unsworth is risky. Aren't they all? If we play the Unsworth card, manager until the end of the season, and it fails, then we can still play the big Sam card and in circumstances where you are only worried about the short term and all the long term questions are forgotten.

He took on a disoriented team down on its luck and confidence and we all know it's now a fight for survival and he loves the club to the bones. Who else would come with the appetite for a survival battle? We never know, he could be the man. I hope he is.

We need a strong experienced manger to get the setup, team selection and tactics sorted out pronto.

I love Rhino but he just doesnt have enough experience in the "fine margins" of the premier league.

When the time comes to take the big step up that is when we should look for big name coach - one who has real winning experience.

As much as anyone else I want him to succeed - he's one of us - but I'm not fully convinced.

We can't stake the future of the team on the basis of that. It would be akin to buying sledges for your kids for Chirstmas just because there was a blizzard last year.

Under him, it has been 4 games defined thus:

Played poorly, lost.
Played poorly, lost.
Played dismally, lost heavily (Lyon).
Played poorly, freaked a win with the help of the jammiest alignment of circumstances imaginable.

Dunno about the rest if yis, but I'm seeing a common thread here.

All our dilly-dalling around and now West Ham have stepped in and snapped up David Moyes from under our noses. We will regret this when the Hammers win the FA Cup and qualify for Europe this season just you watch...

No more ex RS connections please.

My solution is staring us in the face = Ancellotti. Experienced good tactician, good man manager, prem experience and used to handling and attracting top players.

I feel a bit like I'm sounding like an over eager cheerleader, but I think they're all much bigger risks short and long term.

Of course we shouldn't be super excited about nicking a win at home against Watford, but there's so much more to it. Anyone coming in is going to have to work with the players we have, not Burnley's well drilled but limited players, for example.

Anyone in now will have barely been given a decent crack before the window opens... So is Dyche/Silva going to be given a ton to spend?

I think it's too early to call in Allardych. It might not work out with Unsworth, and we might need someone who can steer the ship from the rocks... But we're not there yet.

A Hiddink/Ancelotti/Another could be tempted in the summer, especially with a large war chest to spend... But signing players in January is notoriously hard unless they're out of form or favour. This type of manager would also spell the end of the old boys really... Koeman was an in between, but acted (by the sound of things) as though we were a stepping stone to Barcelona.

Do we really need to take more expensive risks, or give our home grown manager a real chance?

That was a BBC reporter who misheard somebody saying Sam was "on his way to 'ell - for dodgy deals."

How low can we get !

I think what's being overlooked is not just the damage that's been done by Koeman, but the nature of the damage. The heart and soul was torn out of this squad. Without that, anything Koeman himself tried was never going to work - and it didn't. His one final, almost, mini-reprieve, came from the inclusion of perhaps the one player who hadn't wilted under his dour, destructive persona; Oumar Niasse.

Without spirit in the team, all else becomes irrelevant. The repair and early stages of the return of team spirit is the abiding thing we have seen since Unsworth took charge. Those first three mixed, stuttering performances, culminated yesterday in the return of fight.

No-one's tactics, set-up, nouse, genius, experience would have done anything out of the box, absent that fight. Not Guardiola, not Conte. It's back. The players are trying to play. That crazy, chaotic comeback yesterday was impossible without it.

We shouldn't underestimate what Unsworth has done. Nor should we yet judge him too inexperienced or tactically naive. The squad is only now becoming ready to respond to that. It's easy and understandable that we should compare him to Koeman, post up formations, discuss width, players, substitutions, tactics. What did any of that mean under Koeman - Zero.

Unsworth has seen the players now - how they respond to his instructions (which he seems to like calling, information), his intentions. That yesterday, was massive. Pulled out the fire on the back of three straight defeats. Never mind the technicalities for now, that comeback took balls, and they're welcome back.

Do we really want Bungy in to start again? Start again he will, sweepingly. He will regiment and robotize. There will be no flair, no heart. Not so much spirit, more a stiff working commitment to a rigid, and yes proven, framework of defensive thinking that runs unwaveringly along the safety line on the graph.

It would take some time to batter into the players, and it wouldn't be pretty. It's highly likely we wouldn't be relegated - and that's it. That is all. Once this is dyed in, it is hard to wash out in the future - and that's ugly.

Those who were lucky enough yesterday to experience the increasingly-rare electric atmosphere of Goodison at her best, remember and relish - it will be gone for a long time if Allardyce gets anywhere near.

Just think, the two mangers in the dugout on the 29th of this month may well be Allardyce & Moyes!

Who'd have thought that was a possibility this summer? I'm slowly losing faith with this brave new world of ours.

If this is the best the Board can come up with then I really do think we'd be better off continuing with Unsworth, at least for this season.

Allardyce, if indeed he can wade through the abuse to take over, will be entitled to claim any and all credit as his own.

But the "go" button won't be pressed until our premier league status is secured. So regardless of who the fan base want, Moshiri will appoint a manager who he is confident will keep us up.

Who that manager might be I don't know but I do know this - if he keeps us up there is a huge personal prize in that he will be involved over a two or three year period in the transformation of the club. That may attract a candidates(s) that neither we or the press are aware of.

The flip side of the coin doesn't bear thinking about. There is a lot a at stake in the next month.

So whoever the new manager is - David Unsworth or A Another he will need the support of the whole fan base irrespective of personal preferences, biases and opinions. We have to put all that stuff aside.

I don't see the point in bring in a short term appointee together with his entourage. We could end up wasting more money getting in players that the permanent manager does not want.

Lets give Unsworth a chance till at least Christmas and see if he can turn things around. He has ticked off one of the major boxes in that he can instill some passion and fire in the team which they are prepared to do for him. I think the team also believe in his capabilities which is something our board should listen to.