Everton 'close' to new managerial appointment

Is Unsy one of the three?
I very much doubt he is but it's not clear.
Hopefully the new manager is in today/tomorrow.
Rhino can select the team in his last game as caretaker and the new regime starts on Monday.

I just hope they are not thinking of going back to Allardyce. If that's your thinking, Farhad, then don't bother attending any home games soon, as I think you would find he wouldn't be the most popular choice. As 80% of the 6,000 that voted on ToffeeWeb didn't want him.

Who was involved in identifying, signing and selling players over the last 18 months as the whole thing has been an absolute disaster? An amateurly run club from top to bottom.

And is Jim White Everton's Communications Director?

I suppose they felt they had to say something, but if it's not before Sunday then saying nothing or then would be more useful.

1. John Barnes
2. Tony Adams
3. Walter Smith

We're doomed!
Doomed!

I see him as another Martinez and not the right man to sort out our defensive problems but we can only hope that anything is better than nothing right now as Unsy is obviously not up to it.

Farhad. Take Jim's number off speed dial pal and hire a new press officer.

Quite a few of this squad need to be sent packing right now. A new guy may possibly instill better spirit and committment but Unsy seems to have been unable to to achieve this so far so what hope does a new guy have.

First department to address is obviously on the defensive side of things which appears to have been shot to hell. What happened yesterday can be excused a little if if only because the team was a mishmash.

Keane is just as bad as Williams and Martina. Others are making awful mistakes in midfield giving opponents easy access to the back four /or three.< All the players seem mesmerised at times by what's going on around them and nobody seems to be able to play consistently well for ninety minutes.

Everton were for the most part chasing shadows yesterday and it's been most of the same all season.

Rangnick seems to be the friendly faced choice though. I would be happy with his appointment.

I guess we can't be accused of rushing this decision.

My take on this is we had a shortlist when Koeman got sacked. We got knocked back by all. Unsworth was given the opportunity to prove he's up to the task and stabilise the team at the least. Things haven't worked out, so we've moved on to the next group.

I think it will be a short term firefighter type in the Fat Sam guise. Right the ship with the remit of maintaining our Premier League status, get a big pay off, move on and a new man comes in for the new season.

Don't let yourself be hopeful. Prepare for absolute mediocrity.

Any time I think about our Summer transfer window my blood boils.

In terms of new manager I'd love it to be Silva. I suspect it will be Dyche, Fonseca or Rangnick. I'm worried it will be Allardyce, Pulis or Bilic.

I just hope he can help maintain our Premier League status and build a team good enough to live up to our moto "nil satis nisi optimum".

If he's serious about taking the club forward then we need a big name manager with pull.

I think it'll be a Pulis/Fat Sam type to get the train back on the tracks.

Just hope its true that it is"close" because we are undoubtedly heading for relegation at the moment.

Think Silva is most people's choice but don't think he would be coming here to stabilise Everton.

It's worse than your thought. The amount for Harry McGuire was £12M rising to £17M.

Everton that.

Whoever comes in, the have a huge job to do and I am not expecting immediate results.

What struck me yesterday was how we can't do the basics. Losing goals to the set pieces like we have cannot be just down to coaching techniques. Defenders and midfielders have spent their careers learning this, these techniques cannot just disappear overnight. Communication is a massive issue that needs addressing. Feeney was more vocal in his 20 minute cameo than the 3 other defenders all game.

Gandalf is needed to sort this out!

Williams, Keane, Cuco, Schneiderlin... they can all go.

What Moshiri's idea of 'soon' happens to be is anyone's guess but to me it means imminent – not the end of next week or sometime the week after, but now. I hope to have my tea soon, not like in a few days time. Difference is I know it's going to happen – soon.

Just get on with it, or keep us guessing. The anticipation is killing me now this has been said.

And fucking please, PLEASE don't let it be Martin O'Neill... Mugabe's looking for work.

As Mary Poppins would say, "Que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be..."

Another thing that's irking me is this "our squad is rubbish" bullshit; we have an easily top eight squad, it's just a little unbalanced. To suggest a new manager won't be able to come in and change anything is fucking ludicrous – get a grip, people!! If that couldn't happen, we might as well pack it all in and watch egg chasing or something!

Silva... I'm very unsure as to whether he's the man to change anything. His record strongly suggests not and this seems like another really uninspired "flavour of the month" decision like Martinez and Koeman were. They had, as managers, a long history of winning nothing or worse; so does Silva.

What's wrong with Ancelotti, Mancini, or Pellegrini? Proven winners!!!

It's as though he's said it just to keep the natives relatively quiet. Don't worry folks, it's all in hand. I just hope it isn't another "Bill and I were trying to clinch a deal right up to the last minute."

As so many have said, we have a publicity department, don't we... Do We?

If we get a new manager after the Southampton game it will be incredibly harsh on Unsworth.

Out of the 6 games he's had that matter, 5 have been away. The only home game that matters – he's won.

Watch a new manager come in before a reasonably easy run of fixtures and everyone jumping on the ‘I told you so' bandwagon.

If you're going to be fair to Unsworth, give him the next 3 premier league games that include home games to West Ham and Huddersfield. If he screws them up then fair enough, he's not cut out for it.

If we replace him after the Southampton game, we've shit on him and given the new guy a very straightforward introduction.

Unsworth Premier League record:
Played 4
Won 2
Drew 1
Lost 1

It was Doris Day who said that, not Mary Poppins!

As for O'Neill, Dyche, Big Sam etc... I don't care unless it's only till the end of the season. We've spent countless millions paying off the last two managers so what's a few million quid more?

Pay them what they want and have the next manager lined up for the summer. It's not rocket science.

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You've got it made I'm out of luck
Alright, Ok lets go,
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Why doesn't someone call me up
The number's in the book
But if I'm going to do this thing
It should be off the hook
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I don't like it but it's better this way
I can't take it for another day
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Excuse me now I just can't stay
I don't like but it's better this way
I can't take it for another day
Why doesn't someone call me up
The number's in the book
But if I'm going to do this thing
It should be off the hook
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What galls me the most is instead of building on the 7th with a few minor adjustments he proceeded to get the chainsaw out and spend with seeming impunity. Totally opposite to Moyes who seemed to spend like it was his own money.

And the fucker walks away even richer than when he first came to us.

Back to your point, I'm not saying Walsh should be sacked, but it just seems like he has gotten off lightly. He is the DoF after all.

Substitute Everton for Valencia, and you will enjoy this read.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42095164

An arrogant former Dutch international manager who recently left a Merseyside Premier League club.
A brown-shoed Catalan snake oil salesman
A Dour Scottish manager looking to try and get back-to-back relegations on his CV

Did I miss one?

By Sunday night? I am hoping so, with the reports that Watford are talking to Ace Ventura in Italy as a replacement, it looks like Silva will be taking training Monday morning.

Or maybe not; this is Everton after all. Men can be in the building and still do a runner!

That completes the short list :-)

Personally, I think Koeman didn't give a shit about Everton and, was using the club purely as a stepping stone for better things: which would explain why his transfer policy was so poorly thought through/flawed. As you rightly said, why make wholesale changes to a reasonable team? A hatchet job if ever!

Rick – Serious or fucker?

It's looking very much like déjà vu to me, a new manager that disappoints and a big pay off again in another 18 months.

If its Silva, we are taking a shot in the dark with him, I think Dyche is a safer bet if I was forced to choose.

Moshiri must have stolen his money, or it's Usmanov's because he not displaying enough brains to have acquired it by intelligence.

So, erm, why do we want their manager then?

Can anybody tell me what the fuck Silva has done to deserve this job?

Don't expect an announcement before the game against Southampton on Sunday but hopefully it will be a bit of a boost to the players and they will be out to impress whoever the new guy is.
COYB

Just think of the following possible scenarios:

- Mourinho being courted by PSG,
- Wenger almost at the end of the road,
- Real eyeing Pochettino as a replacement for Zidane,
- Conte clearly unsettled and Italy enviously looking towards him.

That's United, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea potentially looking for new managers.

We need something big now before we are well down the list come season's end.

It's dark days and I sense this is the darkest period in recent history based on what's happened. Also I'd get rid of the current Director of Football and get a some one or agree upfront who decides who comes and goes.

I'd like to hear SWs version of events with dour Clogg crew.

EFC in the 21st Century, and for now on the slide and decline, praying for a miracle in the derby...

It could sing well from the terraces, with whatever words you choose.

I'm going to see if I can find it on YouTube or somewhere and give it a listen. Do you not think we could do with something more cheerful and rousing? Y'know, something like "The Last Waltz!"

Just imagine hot head Keane as his assistant, now he will piss the players off. I don't know, maybe they do need a good bollocking every five minutes.

I still think we need a new squad of players more than a new manager.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Wu8eusLms

I assume though that if I put their name in and the title, it'll come up. Thanks Kim

"I would like Martin O'Neill. The Irish are fighters, we need some of that...O'Neill would be a decent choice...Him and Keane would frighten these fuckers into doing some work, getting stuck in."

Worked well in his most recent match as a manager, didn't it?

ROI 1 Denmark 5.

Don H – If your reading this (I know you're too sensible to contribute) remember that? And that chick in the denim jacket? (reply on messenger if you want)

Lads and Michael sorry – gone a bit off topic here. I'll stop now.

It's coming to something when I say I'd sooner have Big Sam.

With Everton, O'Neill and Keane would have better players; we need to win games now – School of Science later We were all okay with Joe Royle's Dogs of War winning the FA Cup – and don't forget tenacity of Reidy and Bracewell in 80s.

As for our imminent capture of a world class manager, it's a bit like waiting for Santa, is all this. "Has he come yet?"

Job description
The new manager will have to work with a messy dog's dinner of a set-up; work with a bunch of crocks; be used to getting his hands dirty and spending lots of money while dealing with emotional turmoil.

Forget Allardyce, Dyche et al.

The ideal candidate is TV's very own Dr Noel Fitzpatrick (aka The Supervet) who also happens to look like Martin O'Neill, is Irish and wears glasses.

He knows bog all about football management and couldn't give a toss about the Toffees which puts him on a par with the two last managers on EFC's books.

You heard it here first.

He had Villa neck & neck with us for 2/3 seasons and Lerner wasn't prepared to go all in on the job. He walked on the eve of a new season.

Dinosaur.

Did anyone notice that the wheels started to come off after the window closed when all hope was sucked out of the squad by the failure to make the signings needed to fill 2 key areas of the team? Our 1st game after was 0-3 at home to Spurs.

Fancy making an well over-the-hill & unfit pro our most highly paid player! What would the other players make of that?!

Kenwright out and take Rooney & the other hangers on with you!

‘Okay, you don't want Allardyce, we'll get O'Neill'

Deaf School were never a punk band they were a great band though and still play the odd gig. I've been in the last couple of year to see them and they are still excellent.

The most interesting thing to me about the Valencia article was that Marcelino, their brand new manager "Loves to play a quick and direct game centred around numerical supremacy and the idea of overwhelming the opponent based on the speed of their transitions. Exhausting stuff that is less exhausting when you are feeding your body the required nutrients.

Dining together often the players are also subjected to strict workouts. Their blood is analysed, and weight checked, frequently. According to Valencian papers there are behavioural rules to abide by.

Marcelino demands that every player addresses each member of staff with the utmost respect, irrespective of what job they hold.

Yet despite all the rules and the severity of training, there exists a lot of love and respect within the group, creating a unit eager to surpass expectations."

Valencia are second to Barca, who they play this weekend, six points and eight goals to the good over Real. They've done this by getting rid of 14 in the squad when the new manager, appointed in May, took over supported by a proven director of football who'd joined a year earlier. They replaced the departees with players who cost next to nowt but felt personally that they had a point to prove as professional footballers.

So Mr Moshiri apparently it can be done, on the cheap even, providing YOU select the right people to do it. Nobody knows where Valencia will end up this season or next mind you, but you can be SURE it won't be in their Segunda B this season.

Southampton 3-0 after Martinez!!!
Watford 3-2 this time

Makes my argument look better including the Southampton game!!!

Wouldn't it be ironic if we got Silva though. Our last 2 managers would have come from the only 2 clubs that Unsworth has beat!!

It will not be O'Neill so everyone relax.

Don't know where I got Southampton from...

Just heard a pundit on the radio say Everton will find it difficult to find a manager of Keoman's calibre – obviously a RedShite Gobshyte taking the piss.

This is EFC and God only knows.

Maybe all English clubs should be suspended from Europe for the rest of the season.

I Would love it. I would really love it!!!

I'm glad he's talking about stabilisation though, because it's the first sensible thing I've heard for a while, and the most important thing that matters just now.

And before some smart arse says, Ace Ventura. No it's not.

It's what Moyes tried and to a degree did when he joined the club, and Martinez behind the scenes. We need another shift, and perhaps on the scale of Dave Brailsford's minimal changes for major gains – https://jamesclear.com/marginal-gains – or Sir Clive Woodwards culture change that helped England win the Rugby Union World Cup – https://www.cio.co.uk/it-leadership/sir-clive-woodwards-four-steps-to-creating-a-winning-culture-3431439/

In my line of work, it takes people with vision to change things, and you'll go along with it or move on – that's what we need, someone who can move us on.

We're better than all the crap names mentioned. In my opinion, for what it's worth, I would like Simione.

Every single player we have should be up for sale in January, the loss of any of them would not damage us in any way. With a bit of luck maybe Sunderland will take most of them.

I don't think any manager in the world could get much out of the garbage we have trying to pass themselves off as footballers.

If no penalty or red card awarded it won't ever be reviewed.

He deceived no-one there. Niasse I'm afraid did just that.

None of the present 'prospects' mentioned so far are, in my opinion, close to exciting the imagination and another disastrous appointment could take EFC into total oblivion, Just Saying.

The longer this is going on, the less confidence I have in Moshiri.

Liverpool fans would be sick because they would know we had appointed one of the best managers with a superb record. We all know unfortunately it won't happen .

He's either a very happy chappy, or something like that. I think he is probably the only one who is, at the moment, kitty more or less blown.

Managerless, charlatan Manager got away with Crime of the Century, and thick end of £10M, and a bunch of misfiring misfits to boot.

He's either a very happy chappy, or something like that. I think he is probably the only one who is, at the moment, kitty more or less blown.

Managerless, charlatan Manager got away with Crime of the Century, and thick end of £10M, and a bunch of misfiring misfits to boot.

You only have to listen to the media, the pundits etc to realise that, although we consider the job a poisoned chalice, there are still good managers out there who would jump at the chance of the job.

They don't just look at the present situation they look at the potential, which IS massive. We just need the right people in place!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42094924

"What do we think... 90?"
"Nah, too high... 80 for me"
"But that's too low".
"How about 85 then?"
"Let's say 84 so it doesn't look like an obvious round figure".
"But 84 looks like we're trying to be too accurate..."
"Yeah, I see what you mean... 85 it is then. Send it out - 85 percent chance that O'Neill will be manager".

The general treadmill of EPL managers who swap jobs.

ABV might fit, not top top but way better than the also rans and yesterday's men we are been linked with.

I could handle that appointment.

Totally fucking clueless, more money than brains it seems... get Wilder of Sheffield Utd please & stop pissing about.

No I'm not his agent btw... if only... sigh.

Where are we heading???

I've had 50p each way on a rank outsider. And I mean rank.

The names is Barnes. John Barnes.

If they mentioned Ken Dodd would you fall for that hook, line and sinker?????

We've heard of joint managers before but get this

Martin O'Neill, Big Sam and Pulis in a bespectacled, gum-chewing, baseball-hatted AXIS OF EVIL.

Be afraid.

Be

Very

Afraid

There is a saying that it is the hope that kills you. In the present situation it is not the hope of us getting a decent new manager that is killing everyone but the ever growing fear that we will end up with some football dinosaur.

Dicky Mint has retired.
Stop winding people up.
This is a serious thread.

Bob Carolgees has been spotted in The Wilmslow.

Jim White inside knowledge?

I certainly hope not.

Why the hell we can't get a decent manager? I don't understand.

Apparently he looked a bit nervous “like either he was going to an interview or had the shits”.

If he had the shits why would he buy the Ginsters / Twix combo?

1. Tyre deflating.
2. Balloon popping.
3. Fart in a lift.
4. Shit sandwich.
5. Champagne cork.

It's very disappointing if true but I would back him to keep us up.

He's just presided over the biggest disorganised Irish football debacle in their history. Do we really want a manager that gets their teams beaten 1-5 at home.

Surely this is just pure shite to feed the media whilst they are hiring someone else.

Silva was none committal when asked plus rumours ref Watford and Ventura!

Steve, Mike - many wouldn't get that. My kids say OMG it's a Dad joke on such occasions!

It was not a cheese pasty.
Apparently it was a mushroom slice.

Ayew's defence is expected to be "It was Martin Atkinson FFS."

Nevermind... a new manager will stop the rot with no recognition of two strikers needed – let alone one. No decent manager would come here and none of the so-called good ones could transform us either. Cheque book Charlie Maureen and Co can do one.

I feel sorry for David Unsworth, he's had to try his best with the lads who obviously played under Knobhead Koeman and his brother and out of position etc. We ain't that bad so blaming Rhino is a bit harsh.

Blame the Muppets that moved here or the overpaid complacent ones. I've seen more fight from our women's team... no sexist pun. Where's a youthful XI with pace and width... we've got one. Not managed enough. Dire.

I think Martin O'Neil is being used as a ploy to make everyone accept Big Sam, though!

After the lighter notes, here's my forecast: it will be the German guy, whose name I haven't yet memorised, the one who does Steve Walsh's job at Leipzig. Remember where you read it first! (or don't).

Of course, I thought the same in the summer about the striker situation when it was abundantly clear that any signing would be better than nothing. Not signing anyone with a week to go could only mean one thing... we were in for a treat. Well it turned out I was wrong.

So I was fooled – shame on the club. I'm still going to give them this opportunity to fool me twice and put shame on me. Being an Evertonian and holding onto hopes go hand in hand.

If after all this we end up with an 'obvious' low level candidate that we could have brought in a month ago then I don't know where we go next. The club, be that Moshiri, Kenwright or whoever, just won't understand footballing reality and aren't fit for purpose.

He's a good man-manager. He's barely experienced. For those who talk about Ireland v Denmark, Erickson is class above anyone Ireland had available.

Still lots to play for. January transfer window for 3 quality players. CB, L Fwd, CF.

All 3 need to have pace, strength, experience, work rate and ability to do their jobs. Defender to defend. Winger / Fwd with movement, run with the ball and cross. Striker who can finish, good movement and link play.

I don't like to chuck names around but I'd take a risk as a 4th option to loan Montero (?) left winger who was at Swansea. Not sure what happened to him but I enjoyed watching him skin a few players and deliver quality crosses.

1 main issue I have with Unsworth is that as a former defender his teams can't defend.

I think revert to 5-4-1 keep it tight. Baines, Holgate, Jags, Keane, Kenny. Fullbacks give us width with Lennon and Mirallas to link up and support striker either side of Davies and Gana in Mid. Calvert-Lewin to start upfront. The 3 advanced /fwd players need to put in a shift and depending on performance Lookman, Sandro and Rooney to come on.

I don't think Pickford is better than Robles at this stage so either for me. I'd be happy with 0-0.

Anyone who likes Motorhead gets a lot of brownie points from me! Probably got to see them near on 20 times!

That's the solution, play Motorhead throughout the game, scare the opposition as footballers really have nambie pambie musical taste, back to the dogs of war, which is a motorhead track! Perfect!

Seriously though, with 2 aged cbs, one out of form young cb, an aged lb with no cover, what can a new manager do?

Martin O'Neill did a good job for a period with Villa. That was a long time ago. Personally, I don't like the guy. And professionally he has done nothing to warrant being in the frame for a Premier League manager's job. I'm actually really shocked this is being discussed. I have previously said ‘anyone but Allardyce'... but I'd even have that arrogant monster over O'Neill.

Why do ToffeeWebers not like Martin O'Neill?

Because he's a shite manager. Anyone even contemplating O'Neill in a serious discussion needs their head examined for a sign of a brain activity.

Clough Mark 2? Get yourself booked in for that head examination, fella.

I never forget a TV interview years ago with an ex Pro who worked under O'Neill as a player and he basically couldn't stand the man. He said he was one of those blokes who disagreed with everything players would come up. Just a typical argumentative twat!

Plus I personally think he's a crap manager.

Now I am not saying for one minute O'Neill is the answer or anyone else on the shortlist, we should have a clearer idea come Monday.

We as fans got it wrong with our two previous shouts before Ronnie got the job.

What is clear though is we need to get someone in and hope they can put a rocket up the arse of our team and quick.

Whoever that may be, we need to get behind him and hope he can turn our season around.

Moyes
Martinez
Koeman
Walsh

That basically is where the problem lies, we have a Board who seem alien to the game of Football.

Which is ironic, but frightening at the same time, for us as fans.

There are very winnable fixtures coming up an key players returning from injury so it would be fair to give him the opportunity: he's earned that much.

Whoever it is, I wish them all the best.

Martinez was great in his first season, and with more money to spend and with better players, his system might have worked.

Koeman was greeted by many on here with warmth, we were at that tie delighted with his no-nonsense, bullshit-free interviews and with Lukaku still on board (he managed to convince him to stay another season) the team reached Europe.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

The favourite before Martinez was appointed was Laudrup. Martinez was the choice of 16% on TW. A later poll had Vitor Pereira ahead of him.

The most popular choice to replace Martinez was Mourinho. Koeman got 18% of the backing.

Whatever the hindsight and wishful thinking involved in those polls, we are looking at neither Martinez and Koeman being the popular choice and indeed only the choice of a pretty underwhelming % of fans.

Don't be lazy, be accurate.

Walsh has been a complete disaster and he doesn't have Everton interests at heart, neither did Koeman who could see rich pickings under his nose. I'm not sure who was the real culprit in the transfer swindles but they need to be investigated.

And no, Moyes wasn't a successful Everton manager.

Revolving door managers; Rene whatshisname, Felix Magath came and went, all with an impressive CV, but only created confusion, that's why I say give it to Unsy at least til the end of the season as we're crying out for stability.

Obviously they sacked Koeman (which we all called for) in response to the Arsenal game with no clear plan what happens next. I think the ‘performance‘ on Thursday night partly reflected this. Fringe players not on Unsy's radar but wtf he'll be gone by December, then clean slate.

Whoever we get before the window has an enormous job sorting the defence out first and foremost and pace up front that'll make teams a bit more wary of piling forward.

Big job ahead for anyone.

I was one of his fiercest critics in the final year or so, but you don't win "Manager of the Year"on three occasions without being good at your job.

And Alan Myers was on Twitter, when someone asked if we were getting O'Neill he said "Which one?". They replied Martin and he said No. There might be some legs in it.

However, we then have the Koeman signings. Many will be simply waiting to see who the new boss will be, and therefore not quite buying in to what Unsworth wants. We had the training ground incident with Schneiderlin and Mirallas being chastised, the Vlasic disappearance from view. Add to this Rooney's community service and marital affairs being all over the gossip columns and you have a smorgasbord of egos, to balance out, without any real clout to manage the situation.

The new man really needs to be a respected manager , with the authority and resources to sort out what is undeniably a complete shambles.

Dyche must've offended Kenwright or something...

I can't stand lack of effort from a player – which is the only time I can tolerate abuse – but some of the vitriol directed at certain players would be enough to make Messi crawl into his shell.

A new manager is vital but just as essential is a bear-pit atmosphere in support of the team.

However, if O'Neill is still up to speed with the Premier League, I'd have no issue with his appointment.

I agree and O'Neill would be the ultimate nightmare appointment. If this is more than just another rumour then I suspect the influence of the dreadful Walsh is behind it. Has that man not caused enough damage already?

Under Koeman, our league points average per game was 0.88. Under Unsworth it is 1.3 per game. If we beat Southampton tomorrow it will be up to 1.75 points per game. That's a 66 point season. If he gets that out of the team he inherited, that would be almost unbelievable.

Management appointment aside, the old boys network at this club needs to stop and I think is the reason, or one of them, that we constantly sit in this situation. I mean who was in charge of the U23s last night against Liverpool? Yes the good old fox in the box never successful, money chasing Franny Jeffers.

And we seem to keep giving these underachievers positions within the hierarchy.

Kenwright, Ferguson, all of them it needs to be cleared out and we need to start again. The culture of the entire club needs to change, and if Moshiri cant do it we are truly doomed.

I wouldn't be surprised if we are in this same position next week. His rhetoric through Jim White is absolute bollocks making him look more stupid with every exclusive.

I would be happier if Joe Royle was involved in picking a manager as he knows the situation and the club.

All this "3-man shortlist" rubbish is a joke if we are looking at people like AVB and Rangnick. Rangnick isn't even a manager, for fuck's sake,he is their Director of Football.

If Silva won't come, screw him. He'll be sacked at the end of the season anyway. Give it to Dyche and lets move on.

I wouldn't be so upset by O'Neill/Keane though. We need tough medicine. Players shouldn't be 'enjoying' training. It should be nasty, brutish and short.

I've had to suffer watching our national team under O'Neill for four years and listen to his appalling post-match interviews. He shouldn't be let near a team that likes to do the basics of control the ball and pass to a person wearing the same colour shirt. He basically tells his players that they're no good and best to try get a few set-pieces which we might score from. Maybe with better players he won't do that but I couldn't bear it.

I've no idea who I'd like to take over at this stage as our team looks like a team going down. But O'Neill is the answer to low crowds and low quality football.

I hope and hope it is not O'Neill nor O'Neill plus Roy Keane. For me it would be hard to stomach after a life time of mainly anguish and let downs with EFC.

I'll have to go to church and pray as in some previous life or what ever it is, the angst with EFC can't carry on.

Let's see what happens by Monday teatime and what path the club is planning.

Absolutely agree. I listened to the comments of Niall Quinn and another ex player whose name escapes me at the moment and both slaughtered his tactics against Denmark. One of them called it clueless and the other said it was crazy to play the way they did.

Sad but true.

Martin O'Neill, my arse.

Martin O'Neill – Not for me – yesterday's man. I hope this is a tactic to bring Watford back to the table for fear of losing the chance to grab 㾻 - 20m without breaking sweat. Especially as there are people like Pulis and Pardew about at the moment.

I'm at the couldn't care less stage now as it has gone on too long, just like the search for a striker.

Any fan who thinks the club are not in trouble needs to take a close look at the table.

I bet he was Nero in his former life and we are being punished cos he was fiddling while Rome burnt.

Man City dropped to the third tier after years of war with their owner;
Nottingham Forest went from European Champions (twice) to the third tier;
Sheff United were also down in the third tier (former League Champs);
Sheff Weds also, they're one of England's traditionally biggest clubs;
Aston Villa won the European Cup more recently than Forest and they're in the Championship right now .

It goes on, but the point is, we haven't got it worst. Only last season we regained the mantle we have enjoyed as "best of the rest" for most of this century. Sure, we expect more and we demand more, and we were promised more. And that's why it hurts so much right now.

Usmanov knows this so I doubt they will appoint a 'low key' Allardyce, O'Neill type – it's bad for the brand.

Football is about branding. It looks comical at the moment though, really amateurish from top to bottom. The only person laughing in this theatre of the absurd though is Kenwright. Safe and secure in his fortune churning plaything.

We're getting plenty of "what do you expect, Barcelona?" type shite too but the minimum I expect is to encourage players to play. They do it for their clubs.

Another beauty that O'Neill has in his armoury is only telling the players the line-up an hour and a half before kick-off. Genius.

To let the process drag on without resolution becomes detrimental to an already abjectly poor situation & is grossly unfair all round – not least the Caretaker Manager, who will look increasingly hapless if he's left in post but not confirmed in post.

None of which is going to enhance our chances of gaining the necessary points to survive – which is all that really matters for this season.

ps, I'm dreading any of that bunch.

There is a power struggle with Koeman wanting a yes-man whilst Moshiri is looking at the bigger picture. However, history tells us that neither are fit to make this huge decision.

I wondered why when watching Gladiator I got a tilt in my kilt when Crispy ones were thrown to the lions.

Three man Shortlist A Commanding Centre Half A Free scoring Centre Forward A good Left Back.

Had to laugh at Have I got News for You saying Kenwright should be in charge of Brexit he only spent 𧵎 million and had Everton out of Europe in 3 months.

Assuming Unsworth is clearly not the man they want, they really owe to him, the players, and all of us to make the appointment pronto. Even if it's one of the old lags, like Jones, O'Neill or Strachan until season's end. I'd rather see some imagination used – appoint in hope rather than desperation, but above all: appoint somebody!

He's learning how to play with his train set. One step forward, three back.

Everton should go to Southampton tomorrow and park the bus and come home with a 0-0. Then we should be beating West Ham and Huddersfield at home. Unsworth will send the team all out for the win. He's looking to land knockout blows because the board have not allowed him any stability. They could have just lied and said it was his job until January whilst trying to get someone in now.

If Unsworth was their man there'd be no need to say an announcement was imminent, they could just make the announcement. Consequently, his position has been unnecessarily undermined, but he's still expected to carry on regardless & try to get some points on the board.

It's all very amateur hour stuff.

It arrogant to think you can coast through the season with no manager and just take your time. He's playing Russian Roulette with our future and Premier League status. He will probably argue that its best to take a few more weeks rather than make a panic appointment but when you are associated with a premiership no mark in Marco Silva and dinosaurs such as Allardyce & Martin O'Neill you have to ask does he even know what he's actually doing?

Sean Dyche and Michael O'Neill are currently the best managers available. We should be talking to them about a 2-3 year deal.

I'd like to see the football equivalent of Eddie Jones, England RFU manager appointed- too many trouble makers amongst the squad viz Mirallis, Schneiderlin immediately spring to mind – an Eddie Jones equivalent would send clowns like these packing and ensure, as far as humanly possible, that any new signings pass basic character assessments.

All this talk about Marco Silva baffles me –unless I've missed something what has he actually achieved?Surely the antics of the last two managers should serve as a warning about foreign coaches, very much in the "here today, gone tomorrow when something better comes along" – there was even talk of Frank de Boer before Koeman was appointed – heaven forbid.

After 45 years of supporting Everton, I have honestly never witnessed such a shambles in the direction of the club. I don't think that Moshiri will hang about if we get relegated although he's smart enough to have already ensured he gets his "investment" back if the unthinkable happens. Then there will be a financial catastrophe.

I would be more than happy with a relatively unfashionable manager who can get us out of this dreadful mess- someone along the lines of Derek McInnes of Aberdeen or Chris Wilder of Sheffield United or Neil Warnock of Cardiff City, who, like Eddie Jones, would weed out the trouble making coterie we've been landed with and tolerate no nonsense from the remainder.

Make no mistake, we are in real trouble – our 63 successive seasons in the top flight may well be coming to an end if common sense does not prevail – the focus must be on survival!

I can't listen to Dunphy or Brady. Eamon was Trapp's biggest critic, but was one of the reasons he got the job ahead of Venables. Liam was in his backroom team, and defended him too the last for not playing Eamon"s god child 'Wes', and slated O'Neill for not playing him.

I'm not a fan of O'Neill, never was, and cannot understand, how the fuck he's now favourite, after losing 5-1 to Denmark, especially when his tactics were clueless. Who is in Moshiri's ear ?

Couldn't agree more!

I've past caring, I realy couldn't give a fuck anymore.

Just go ahead and employ the next journeyman loser.

Chelsea let him go and I can't remember them missing him. No emotion from Leicester either to be fair.

Re: Against Palace and Atalanta, what knockout blows did Unsworth try and land exactly? I must have missed those.

Vs Palace it was backs to the wall, we barely laid a glove on them. Atalanta, we had a right back, playing left back, who can't even play right back, a back 4 could be observed yes, but in front of them no pundit could work out what formation we were playing. A total shambles.

You then say we should be going to Southampton to get a 0-0. Surely that kind of ethos should be led by Moyes, the grandmaster of try and nick one.

We are worse under Unsworth than Koeman, which is quite a pathetic and embarrassing feat. Under no circumstances should he get the job.

James, just because we are failing to land any knockout blows, or we are throwing punches without the power needed, doesn't mean we aren't doing them. Teams have been sent out to win, not to draw. You only have to look at the formations to see that.

Everton is like an oil tanker heading for some rocks, it takes a bit of time to turn the ship around. You can't expect instant success. It takes time.

Also how can Unsworth fix things? You talk about the formation, he must be able to work on Formations in training right? only when you add in all the recovery and match preparation days, with 2 games a week, how many days does Unsworth actually get for actual training of the players to work on formations, defensive shape, tempo, defensive line, pressing, etc etc.

People want Allardyce for what he did at Sunderland and Palace. He took 8 games to get Palace going. that was 8 games in 6 weeks. Not 8 games in 4 weeks. Allardyce had time to get Palace and fly off to Dubai for a week's warm weather training. Unsworth would love that amount of time with his players. No new manager will get that until January 13th. We get a week between Tottenham and West Brom, the first full week between games of the season. Don't mention international breaks, we played Palace on the Saturday and players like Mirallas arrived back on the Friday, too late for training as well. So when oh when does Unsworth get the time to make things better?

Kim and Barry I've saw Motorhead in 88 and they may me half deaf and I've seen many loud noise such as NIN and Marilyn Manson.

Finally, that picture of Michael Keane that keeps showing on ToffeeWeb, he looks like Liberace. Maybe we should have gone for Ben Mee, who I do think is the better player.

To think it's come to this, 2017 bottom 3 - 5 and Martin O'Neill as manager. This is why I never taken the piss out of Liverpool FC, as Everton FC always shoot themselves in the foot.

And it's not just about the polls, because you could only choose one. Look at the actual comment around the time. A lot of people listed several names, and lots wanted either Bilic, De Boer or Koeman. I'd take Moyes, Allardyce or O'Neill over any of them.

Let's face it, no one on the outside really knows what is going on, but from the recent history of largely inconsistent and directionless events I think the Board can be seen to have done the following since Moshiri's arrival.

They have invested heavily in the squad, the ground and in the management team. Fair play and thanks for that.

They have acted firmly to get rid of Martinez (as we all wanted) and they found his replacement which at the time seemed the big name character to address the challenge.

In his first season, Ronald did many stupid, and many not so stupid things. In reality we achieved the holy grail of European Football, and along the way he retained Lukaku, and took a personal interest in the challenge called Ross Barklay. On the surface, last season was not too bad. We were on the up so to speak.

Behind the scenes all was probably not rosy and Schneiderlin joined us, only after a public plea for action by Ronald. We were all very pleased with his quality of play last season and Barry to West Brom seemed a suitable move.

I cannot understand or assume what went wrong with Ronald's subsequent strategic thinking; I can only feel very angry at the way it has all panned out. However, I suspect his arrogance and general miserable demeanor coupled with the lack of structure in the close season activities have all combined to his what seemed to be a sod-it approach. If he was let down by Kenwright et al over the striker and defender key positions then I have some sympathy for him...

What we are now seeing is the new manager appointment scenario playing out in a similar weird and behind closed doors fashion. It suggests all is not right behind those closed doors and it might be that Unsy is an unwitting central pawn between Kenwright and Moshiri?

Just as a dog can't have two masters, so a business cannot have two simultaneous strategic business plans which are at odds with each other. Something has to give. Moshiri with the largest personal shareholding you would think will be calling the shots, but the terms of his buy-in to the Club may have been loaded with caveats and riders, giving Kenwright considerable managerial decision making power, even if perhaps only in a negative way, such as the right to delay or veto...

Unsy will be treated respectfully and well, whatever the outcome, as he deserves to be. But his task may be even more daunting than we realize given the politics around the situation.

Moshiri's vision for Everton is that of the club buying its success in a relatively short time frame along a business model plan, and with little time for romantic notions, ie, the infamous 'museum' comment and the willingness to let Ross depart. Kenwright may even be feeling that he is in a way protecting the Club and its new owner from themselves? If such a set of fraught circumstances are at play, then the future does not look rosy. Unsy being (I suspect) Kenwright's man will only get so far, which is a pity.

How much longer, or deeper this cultural split at boardroom level will impact at playing level I don't know, but players and coaches and managers are not stupid. Sub-plots of alliances and allegiances will come and go, Everton will carry on, but unless and until the Board get their act together, which ever one it is, Everton will continue to drift, possibly into the Championship, no matter which manager is in charge.

Not a great fan of O'Neill and don't want him but the vile written in this thread way off line. He achieved a lot with a limited bunch of players, hard to beat except the last match. But who are we to talk when we also lost 1-5. Let's keep thinks in perspective.

Any other options being suggested outside Silva at the moment is a gamble.

Brady is a contradiction given that he wouldn't criticise Trapp in any way even though he knew it was pure dung.

The O'Neill story is crap I reckon. It'll be someone else next week and until a manager is appointed.

If we get an announcement before Weds, it won't be Silva. But it could be on Wednesday with Silva sitting alongside Unsy at Goodison on Wednesday evening. Or (the mind cringes) alongside Bill in his nest with Moshiri.

I don't like him and don't want him and I still believe we'll get Silva because: 1 He wants the job; and 2) Moshiri wants him.

But if the worst comes to the worst his win rate 50.91% is better than most of other names bandied around except for Silva 53.78%. Obviously win rates need to be considered in the context of time scale!

The frightening fact is that there is no one out there who is currently available who can make a halfpenney's worth of difference to such an unbalanced squad and until the January window we are going to have to ride our luck with the shite we have and then pay massively over the odds for more journeymen to plug the holes. For me I would go for Vermaelen and Evans to shore up the back four and pay through the nose for Dzeko, Demba Ba, or even Defoe, and hope Ross and Bolasie can make an impact.

As for being bang on, I think he talks a lot of shite, he makes Wes out to be world class (a squad player at Norwich), detests Keane, a hero when he wrote his book, and said PlatinI was only a 'good player', and said Ronaldo was crap.

I hope your right about O'Neill, because I cannot see what he has done, to be even a candidate.

He exaggerates Wes but he's 100% right when he says that Hoolahan transforms the team when he's on the pitch regardless of what age he is or what club he's at.

He doesn't like Keane and he once liked him. I don't see that as a problem. I once liked O'Neill but can't stand him now. The Ronaldo stuff was embarrassing alright.

Get the manager in tonight or now. What the hell are we waiting for? Please don't say need time getting right manager. Five weeks. Advert and interviewing takes less than this! We are in crisis on the pitch and let's be honest there are no guarantees of staying up who ever we get.

Flately is expected to name his son, 16-year-old Aristotle, as his assistant manger.

To me that thought is vital. Moshiri knows he messed up with last one. Bet he gets it right next time.

To rush because fans get the jitters may be silly.

Pray so.

And will naturally think "but if I can motivate them.." (ripple dissolve - montage of trophies, titles, hookers, cash etc).

The problem we have is even if we brought in The Amazing Kreskin (one for the teenagers there), his mental powers wouldn't be able to do much about our lack of pace, lack of physical strength and the fact we have the most limited choice of strikers I can remember.

I'd actually be (sort of) encouraged if I thought our players hadn't been trying, because it would mean they could..um..start to.

But even the other night, I can't say I honestly say I saw lack of effort or not arsed, just lack of a planning/organisation/muscles/pace/strikers.

Anyway, I intend to tackle my concern the old-fashioned way.

Off to the pub.

Up the TofffuckinBASTARDSTHELOTOFYERZ!!! (kicks table over).

I was besotted with him, in a good way I might add.

I didn't want Moyes back, I didn't want Koeman, I didn't want big Sam but I would take any of them before O'Neill. Please don't let this be true

What are we looking for? Stability or the project. At present it's the get us out of this mess. It's going to be a long hard season. I actually don't think this squad is capable of putting three wins together.

The form we have been in since February has been poor and yet no one on the board saw this coming. You may be right in not rushing but the season will carry on. Hope your right.

There's a great story about O'Neill when Clough dropped him & he was playing for the reserves. O'Neill questioned the decision & asked Clough why he was playing with the reserves. Clough replied, “Because you're too good for the 3rd team.”

"You can't sing, you don't write your own songs, you can't play an instrument, no, no, I admire you for what you have achieved considering!"

Robbie was gone the next time the camera panned back to his chair. Imagine what he will say to our sorry bunch of loafers!

Whoever takes over needs to be able to communicate with the players and the fans to keep the heat off our rather fragile group of players. There is absolutely no leadership on the field so that has to come from the sidelines. He's going to have to work to get the crowd back.

Sounded to me that he was talking to our board. Highlighting his credentials for the job. That at the moment he's direct but wants to evolve into more of a passing team.

Still want Silva tho... but if that doesn't happen I'd take Sean. Definitely it's a no no no to O'Neill... I'm Irish and I can't stand him. Don't rate him at all. Negative football.

He would be the antithesis of the kind of football that Everton fans aspire to, I think I would try to ignore proceedings if he were at the helm as it would just be too painful to watch.

The big question remains over his long term evolution and the limit of his potential.

I also think the hold-up is with Watford wanting to have a manager in place to take over. Hopefully, this shall happen before the West Ham game if not then against Huddersfield.

Andre Villas-Boas, is interesting but possibly a smoke-screen but please, please, please no Martin O'Neill.

So far, IMO, there is no doubt that Silva's teams play better football but it is still very early for him in the Premier League. I appreciate that someone will take the leap of faith with him sooner or later and he may well be the next best thing but just not sure and seems to be a big gamble (his record at previous clubs is very impressive I know but none were in Premier League – other than Hull I mean). Having said all that as a season ticket holder I do not want to be watching the same turgid shite week in, week out and would prefer a footballing manager/coach.

It maybe that EFC needs to grow a set to realise top 4 ambitions and use managers to move forward in a series of steps (as Citeh did) almost regardless of the costs/emotions. Whilst that approach does not sit comfortably with me, if it moves us to the next level then so be it.

Whoever comes in has to stabilise us first then crank it up, if they succeed with the former and fail with the latter, then another change should be made. Martin O'Neill may well keep us up but I cannot see him taking us beyond that. Same comment applies to Unsworth. Dyche or Silva may well achieve both, the football would be better with Silva though. I would be happy with either Dyche or Silva even though the risks are high with whoever is appointed.

It's hard for us to see from the inside coz we're shite at the moment but the club (us) do genuinely want to challenge the top clubs and believe we eventually can.

I don't think even the Watford owners see that for their club. So it's about potential, about possibilities, about the future!

It's pretty obvious he wants to come.

Silva wants to come because it's Everton. He knows how big the club is, he sampled the atmosphere twice, and he knows how much we have to spend and it's a better proposition than Watford, not for this season, but for beyond.

There's more than those though who wouldn't admit they can't!

Well how do you explain Selling Lukaku without a replacement lined up for definite? Koeman being sacked without a replacement being lined up for definite? Nah we could defo knock Goodison down without a home to go to – it's what EFC do so well – fuck things up on a mind-boggling scale.

The potential of Everton over Burnley is huge. I think he can see that. He's looking down the line as opposed to this season.

I didn't get a good view but, a few places in front of me this bloke looked a lot like Gus Hiddink.

He ordered fish, chips and peas, vinegar, no salt (repeat NO salt) and a plastic fork. Nothing remarkable about that. But get this.

It was the way he said it – authoritative and commanding – like he really knew his own mind. And could influence others - because he got EXACTLY what he asked for and no messing about.

I thought to myself – that's the kind of bloke who knows how to sort a defence out. Once served, he left pretty swiftly like someone who has other higher things on his mind – like a meeting with Everton's board or something.

Call me impulsive if you like but I'm so convinced that I've just lashed out a full ٟ each way on Hiddink at 12/1 with Paddy Power.

I think we're on for a top 5 finish this season!

Bring it on!

Although we're having a rough patch, the likes of Watford are nowhere near where we generally are (averaging 58 points per season and an 8th placing), and their ambitions are nowhere near ours. So the for the likes of Silva, it's a major opportunity.

So when folks on ToffeeWeb ask why the hell would anybody come here, the answer is obvious, because most other clubs are not at our level. Despite the current rough patch. As they say, keep calm and carry on.

I was in the chippy behind Martin Keown, the greedy bugger ordered 2 (yes, 2) steak and kidney puddings, chips and peas.

I was well impressed, me being a 1 pie weakling.

We could do with a 25-year-old Martin Keown in January.

On my last visit to Goodison for the Spurs game, apart from the shambles on the pitch, the thing that I noticed was that the life seemed to have been sucked out of the fans.

That's what happens when your hopes are raised like in Martinez's and Koeman's first 2/3rds of a season only for them to be dashed.

It looks like David Unsworth isn't getting the gig so what I want is a no nonsense "someone", who knows what he's doing and can force both us and the players to back him out of respect for what he can do for the club.

Not because he is good looking or because he wears his jacket with the collar and lapels up.

We need a leader - someone who is scared of nobody or what his time at Everton will look like on his CV.

Someone who wants the job because it is a mountain to climb.

Someone who doesn't give a toss for Mourinho, Conte, Wenger, Klopp, Pochettino or any other sod including the chairman and majority shareholder.

Someone like this mongrel leader and his mate.
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No prizes for guessing who the bloke on the horse is.

I think he would see through players who weren't committed or pulling their weight. He would get us into an organised fighting unit.

He's not fashionable, not an Armani man. But at the moment he's the manager I would say could improve us.

How far he could take us is another matter. But he is young enough to have untapped potential. Especially when it comes to having top 6 financial resources.

Miracles don't happen at Everton so let's not expect any just yet no matter who takes over.

This is a Rubicon moment for Everton. Do we cross it and get rid of ‘the Gang of Four' and become a properly run club or does Moshiri capitulate and let the club drift for another 20-odd years?

Lerner has always listed the Irishman's cavalier spending as the main reason for the money problems that led to his selling up and it would be ridiculous for our (sort of) owner to make the same mistake.

Perhaps the expected appointment of the O'Neill will not go through and, for Moshiri's sake as well as us Evertonians, he can then move on to his next balls-up!

We're a joke from top to bottom.

Even the kit is ridiculous. What next, a flower that squirts water in place of our badge? The players wearing foam red noses? Outsized boots?

And our new motto – in Latin: "iocus sumus" (we're a joke).

We need to decide if we're an ambitious professional football club or some kind of big, warm, friendly social organisation.

The mauling handed out by Denmark when Ireland had to play attacking football demonstrates his inability to create as a coach. It was embarrassing at times,football from a bygone era. If he comes they will have to rename Goodison Park to Jurassic Park! It's that bad. Please, NO!!

We will have a new manager just as soon as our own Penfold finishes his latest jaunt with Dangermouse... fingers crossed.

Not exactly a recipe for continuity but I suspect the 'owner' is immune to that sort of dopey thinking!

Sunday Supplement just ripped EFC apart for the lack of direction at the top. Sean Custiss, who I usually despise, said something most of us suspected ie “Why did Moshiri leave Kenwright in charge of club affairs when he became majority shareholder? And what the fuck does Walsh actually do?

Another interesting observation was from Matt Dickinson (Telegraph) who said Koeman was responsible for signing so many midfield players and was confident those players could make up for Rom's goals.

Moshiri will, eventually, tell Kenwright to sod off but he needs to get up to speed about running a football club first. We are a shambles right now and all four of them said it loud and clear.

He certainly cannot trust Kenwright but I think he is realising that now. He must stop putting so much faith in Jim Shite as well, it makes him look like a proper knob which I really don't think he is.

Might be what the wait is.

I have not heard any more on the Silva situation my source is keeping tight lipped at the moment.

I don't think Moshiri does himself any good sending texts to broadcasting greatest self publicist. I am sure his time at Arsenal he will have seen how divisive having a manager in charge who has lost the good will of the supporters, and surely will hopefully not hire a manager that will do that on Day 1. So Allardyce, O'Neill and Pulis would do that.

As I said I wished it was Silva, but I cant see anyone taking the job till the end of the season, apart from Unsworth. Also if the players know he is only here till the end of the season, then he will have the same problem as Unsworth has now. So it seems like we have to forget about Silva and appoint someone for the long term, but please let it be somebody the fans can get behind.

He was brilliant at Porto and then never really settled at Chelsea under Roman's hands on approach. He did well at Spurs and in many ways set them on the path they are now enjoying and got them their highest ever points tally in his first season, he was only 7th (and cruising in Europe) when they parted ways. He did very well in Russia too.

He's still young but is experienced now and bar his 8 months at Chelsea has left most clubs in a better state than he found them.

His time in China is over. He knows the Premier League. He's won quite a few trophies. He's well respected. He possibly feels he has unfinished business in our league...

Makes sense. Come on in Mr Villas-Boas.

We are a second-rate outfit and maybe we should embrace this fact. Thanks, EFC, for the sixties and mid-eighties. At least we will get to stay at Goodison!

If we did go down, what effect would it have on our lives?

We would get used to it very quickly (we would have to), the world would still keep turning and we would still be a football team playing professional football.

We would be on telly a lot more and probably enjoy it more as supporters away from the Sky circus.

What is certain is this. Mosh and Billy liar are at loggerheads over the new manager and this is delaying an appointment.

Kenwright is a fucking parasite who is stopping us from Progressing with his fake blue credentials and has done for years.

If as has been suggested that the players have downed tools, then sell the fucking lot of em for a knock down price to lower division teams.

Cut our losses and start again.

Not realistic I know but i'm seething at present.

How many times have we been to Wembley and qualified for Europe during Kenwright's time as Chairman on a shoestring until Moshiri's loot ruined everything.

If the players fuck it up when it matters, how can it be Kenwright's fault? I am not a Kenwright supporter and I think the board should all go just for the manager fiasco.

If Dyche was prepared to take this on it would tell me all I need to know about him and he would get my 100% support.

The only doubt I have in my mind is this. David Unsworth comes across as a strong character to me and a man most other men would respect. Why is it then that he can't get a tune out of these players?

I don't know the answer to that question - I am just asking.

For the record we have been to Wembley (for a final) once in 23 years and lost.

Sometimes perception is more important than the facts, although the facts are pretty damming on their own and my perception of Bill is that he does care about the club but has been a failure as the Chairman of Everton FC and is no better than Doug Ellis was for Villa, Peter Swales was for City and Bob Lord was for Burnley.

As I stated on another forum if Everton get relegated supporters who live abroad, and there are a lot, would most probably never see Everton on TV as they don't show Championship games. So speaking for myself I would be exceptionally pissed off,.

On another subject, if you are the chairman of Burnley FC would you give Everton permission to talk to Sean Dyche and do you think he would come to such a shambles after being in charge of a club that had been relegated before.

Dyche, if he was mad enough to accept the job, would need to somehow cobble together a team from the shite available that would get us up to mid-table. Then let him clear out the shit and start again in the summer.

An outsider such as Dyche would have more impact in my opinion simply because of his reputation that he brings and the players will be wary of a new face. I don't think they have sufficient respect or fear of Unsworth for it to make a significant difference.

I think that's a bit unfair, Jeff. Kenny has been one of the few at least giving 100%. That's how you show respect.

I think you're on the right path though. An appointment needs to be made fast just to shake things up. I'm just desperately afraid that if the new chump doesn't have an immediate impact, this terrifying slide will continue.