Unsworth: As an Everton man I'm hurting

Big ask of him though as it wasn'the only Koeman who left but his brother and another couple of Koeman'so backroom staff, so a tall order for all the junivor staff at the club to step up. Handling the first team is a huge ask for those used to u23 and u19 squads.

No doubt some will lap it up though.

Pickford
Kenny, Jagielka, Keane, Holgate
Besic, Gueye
Lookman Sigurdsson, Baines
Rooney

I just wish he'd been able to steady the ship until the end of the season because we're about to take a step I never ever thought we'd have to.

He's not helped himself with some strange team selections, and his comments regarding us not being in a relegation battle were just bizarre.

Unsworth had the balls to step up to the plate but is totally out of his depth. This situation simply isn't his fault though. It's our useless board, the same crew who have been letting this club down for years and years, who need to be castigated for the position we are in.

I just wish things had worked out better for Rhino and I wish him all the best where-ever he ends up (hopefully back weaving his magic with the U23s)

What? Putting out sides with no shape, no structure and no game plan who get hammered every game? Sorry but I don't want to listen to him anymore I'm afraid.

And before anyone gets on my case for being too harsh let me say that this man has been a great servant to the club but a terrible choice (by deluded Luvvy Bill) as first team manager – caretaker or otherwise. That idiot has all but destroyed his CV and put him way out of his depth. I really feel for him but the step up from Under 23's to the first team has been totally beyond his capabilities. So sorry Rhino.

I expect him to leave the club to take a top job in a lower division (you have to Crawley before you can walk, right?) , and I'd say that after 2-3 years at a Rotherham or Gillingham, he's going to make us a fine manager.

When you say these (exact same) phrases over and over at every press conference, which he has, means one of two things. Deflection, or bullshit. Probably both. As I say, he's a baby Kenwright in the making, exactly what we don't need right now, or ever again.

We are about to take a step you never ever thought we would make.Those few words from anyone else would barely register but from your much respected self they sound extremely ominous. Certainly more so than appointing Big Sam.

Looking back now, was Martinez that bad compared to this???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42159422

His constant changes in personnel, weird subs, changing things at half time all the time, because things weren't working, then changing it again – you simply can't do that every game. You will get torn apart without a gameplan, and Rhino didn't have one in any of our games.

Don't get me wrong, I like the bloke but he's not a manager of a Premier League team and should never have been given 5 weeks as manager.

There's a mixture of players who are finished and young players who are not good enough, the powers that be keep stating how ambitious we are?

If we had any ambition we would still have Stones at centre-back, Geri on wing, Ross an Rom up front and then spend the £200 million, that's real ambition.

Southampton too Virgil van Dijk your not going anywhere and so did Liverpool with Coutinio, so why are we persistent to let are better players go? Shambles.

Moving on, he's just another example of Kenwright and the board using him to try and blind the fans that they have a plausible plan when the whole football world has being saying the opposite, more and more loudly as the farcical management recruitment process slews onward. The evident fact that whatever millions they're offering in salary hasn't been enough to meaningfully attract anyone of note speaks volumes for the way our club is now regarded inside the world of football, never mind the millions more on the outside, and us fans.

I just hope Unsworth's not been damaged in terms of future employment because he really doesn't deserve that.

Where are the two gobshites who put him there in the first place? Why don't they come out and face the media glare? No, they hide behind a decent man who's been treading water since day one and they don't even have the fucking dignity to tell him what's going on.

Have a go at Unsy by all means but remember who's to blame here for our shameful collapse this season.

He's an easy target as he's the bloke in charge and ‘true blue' or not – he's done an awful job. He'll be hurting, not just as a manager found out at a higher level than his talent , but as a genuine Evertonian.

He has to take some of the blame for our awful performances. He picked the team. He set the formation. They followed his tactics.

Having said that, my real ire, my genuine fury in fact, is directed towards some of the players.

There is a streak of total cowardice that runs through our team. Players who trot around the middle seemingly without a care in the world, shoulders hunched when we go a goal down, not acknowledging their teammates let alone finding accurate passes to them. Going through the motions of being a professional footballer but doing little else.

Our defence is feeble... Ashley Williams should be frogmarched out of Goodison and have his contract burnt before his eyes. Keane is a quivering wreck, confidence shot. Jagielka and Baines, fine players though they've been need pensioning off - they're no longer the players they were and I think they both know it.

So my real wrath is not for Unsworth, it's for the half dozen frauds masquerading as professional footballers, whose heads go down at the first sign of trouble, they get battered, shrug their shoulders and pick up their 𧴜k a week with seemingly not a fucking care in the world.

It looks like that gum chewing, shite spouting caught-on-camera fill me pockets Big Sam will be managing us from what heard. At Everton... Everton . Sam Allardyce .

‘He'll keep us up' I hear some of you say. Well sorry, I want better than that for Everton

Fuck me - from Golden Vision to Golden Shower in 60 years.

Cheers Bill, Cheers Wood, Cheers Moshiri... great reward for nearly sixty years of support. Sam-fucking-Allardyce

Only youngsters Kenny, Davies, Calvert-Lewin and Benny plus Omar have shown any real heart and fight, plus occasionally Lennon, Sandro (too keen) and Vlasic.

As Unsworth himself intimated, the payoff (P45s hopefully literally as well as figuratively) for the rest will come in January, which I am now looking forward to more than Christmas. Jags and Baines can go on to a deserved happy retirement at the Stadium of Light.

As Allardyce prefers so called experienced pros over youngsters, then boy is he in for a shock next week at what's on offer thanks to Koeman et al.

Dreading the game tomorrow. I do not want the treacherous Moyes getting one over us.

We need to play it tight, work harder than we've done so far, stop them from creating and I would take a point now to sop the rot.

COYB!

Yes he's been hung out to dry, and has been dignified etc, but he's also made a ton of mistakes, and had he not been a blue he'd have been slated to the heavens just like Koeman was.

It's only because of who he is that people are being kind to him – he's been useless in truth, and I don't mean that with any malice.

I Think David Unsworth has been hung out to dry, and put under a lot of pressure considering he's stepped up from managing the U23s. David is a decent guy and the board have failed him and us.

Add to that we don't know what the attitude of the individual players are like, we have heard of possible problems with a couple of them at least.

What about Rooney's domestic situation, is it the reason he's not being picked, we don't know enough to be too critical.

What I do know is I'm dreading this West Ham game, the ease with which Austin scored his two goals points towards Carroll giving us a mountain of trouble. I fear the worst I have to say if the balls in the air in our box, as it surely will be.

Secondly has Unsworth done well as a manager? No, undoubtedly not, not at all.

Thirdly, you claim that Unsworth is deflecting and bullshitting.

Well it's this latter point which I'll take issue with you on. He's a true Blue, a thoroughly decent human being who is hurting and doesn't deserve criticism for stepping up to the plate even if he did make a pig's ear of the job.

As others have said, reserve your ire for those that put him in that position.

JD # 10 Idiot?

KT# 14 Baby?

C'mon

Have a word with yourselves please

I said a few weeks ago name me one team in the Premier League who would hire Unsworth as manager. I said no-one. The fella has been hung out to dry because of Kenwright's ridiculous notion of the new manager has to be blue through and through. What a joke.

I tell you, Kenwright is behind contract extensions for Baines, Jagielka and Mirallas – all of whom have not done it for EFC since the start of Bobby's 2nd season.

Kenwright hates it when is mates are not in the team. He hates it even more if he reckons they are being mistreated – hence his sour relationship with Koeman, who realised they were not up to scratch – hence his purchase of Williams to replace Jagielka and subsequent signing of Keane.

If we had got a left back and FFS why didn't we, its almost certain he would be in the team now, as we lack energy and drive down the left, never mind all over the bloody pitch. Can't have my mate Leighton on the subs bench, he's great my mate Leighton.

The board, the backroom staff and the team are split down the middle = Kenwright's arse-lickers and the rest. We are a joke and a rest home for ex players and a fucking rest room for supposed legends who lets face it have won fuck all in a blue shirt. My god, even Wigan have won the FA Cup never mind those teams that have managed a League Cup win.

I and many like me have believed and realised for years we are badly run. Now the whole world knows it. Kenwright please leave and take the never-wases and hangers on with you. We are EFC not BKFC! Allardyce at Goodison and not as an opposition manager – you couldn't make it up. FFS go and go now and take Walsh with you. Anyone who can recommends Sam / Shakespeare is clearly not good for EFC – never mind the lamentable signings he bought and those he tried to bring to the club. Rant over.

However, you get the feeling it is preseason and you are giving a number of players a run. But I don't see the core of the team, I don't see the leaders or the experienced guys lifting the team. Off course there are thousands of opinions among Evertonians about the best starting eleven, but unfortunate it seems like Unsworth is having as many opinions. The fact is that he has managed the team for seven matches and no one knows who are the preferred eleven. Off course when you are loosing you have to change. But Unsworth have been changing around since his first match.

I don't know if he is indecisive or incompetent or whether it is more a matter of too many people having a say. Is he a politician trying to please all?. Play the youngsters, play the seniors, play Rooney, dump Rooney, play Sigurdsson where ever. I can't find any logic and coherence in his team selection. I would claim we have plenty of good players but no team.

Ashley Williams epitomises everything that is bad about the current team and should be thrown down a mineshaft. Keane is young and the malaise is clearly getting to him. Jags and Baines have been great for us but are sadly on the wrong side of the age gap, and both have lost vital pace.

So– should we name the "the half dozen frauds masquerading as professional footballers, whose heads go down at the first sign of trouble . . "?

Schneiderlin leads the crew, with Mirallas, even Rooney and Sigurdsson not far behind . .

Who else?

No need to get your panties in such a twist, lads. I also think he's wonderful and he 'gets us.' A top, top blue. Who should definitely get the job one day. 'Cos we're the best fans and the greatest club. Lovely. Legend.

I totally agree with the comment regarding Unsworth.

Kevin @ 4

It's your opinion fair enough. My opinion is that yours is distasteful and overtly cynical.

A few more telling it like it is and we might get out of this shitstorm we've sleepwalked into.

Once you saw the likes of Joe Royle involved, who hasn't been involved in a Premier League set-up or managed in god knows how long, you knew we were bang in trouble.

Agree with #38 Jack's rant to an extent. Kenwright's involvement is poisonous. Has been for the last 20 years.

As things have dragged on things have got worse but an interim manager dragging on is straight from the textbook of how not to manage a club. In fact it's straight out of any management textbook.

Basically, he's done what you could reasonably expect him to do. Granted, nothing more, but he still hasn't deserved to be left in this position.

There's every chance that this has ended the first team management career he was trying to build. I feel for the guy.

Yet there are people on here calling him a joke and an idiot. Should be ashamed of yourselves.

Unsworth needs to tell the fans how he sees the club being run now that he is the manager, he has already told us the squad is a joke, now please expose the board by lambasting them for selling Lukaku.

That is what a TRUE Evertonian would do, tell the truth!!

On the Field

We have not witnessed any off our players step up to the mark in this regard. We needed a 'Peter Reid' style battler in the middle of the park barking orders and getting stuck in, leading by example. Despite all the investment we have no one of this ilk, closest would be Rooney who's appalling off field behaviour certainly diminishes any real and sustainable leadership credibility he may build with his highly paid team mates.

Off the Field

This has been the most alarming aspect of our current free fall to oblivion Unsworth has been cast in front of the media to figure head the crisis - poor chap is hopelessly ill-equipped for this task. The current predicament would most likely prove too big a hurdle for the current elite crop of Premier League Managers to manage effectively. Remember the 'special one' at Chelsea when it all started to go to rot.

No the leadership of the club the same leadership that placed the arrogant Dutch prick in charge, that brought in the clueless Steve Walsh that funded the deluded and disastrous player recruitment drive are inexplicably silent. Poor old caretaker Unsy is left to front the media after each on field disaster, it's a stark pathetic abdication of leadership from the board, Bill K and what's his face!

That sign on Unsy's desk, the one that says The Buck Stops Here. It was given to him by the board.

The greatest fans are there through thick and thin not just after success, do you want him to slag his boss off. I take my hat off to him for taking an impossible job on in the short term, where was Ferguson as he is the only first team member of staff still there. Big Dunc, my arse.

I cannot accept that someone talking with pride about Everton should be pilloried. Equally, I am deeply scared for our future and know that he has not achieved.

Please, not Allardyce.

ps: quite amused when predictive text sent up 'allergic' for 'Allardyce'.

A team which – and lets be very clear about this – was ALREADY occupying one of the relegation berths. A team who's creative players were clogging up the treatment room. A group of players who had had their love of the game sucked out of them by a charmless, clueless bully who was allowed to spend 200 million quid making us the ugliest team in football.

Unsworth wasn't just dealt a poor hand, by giving him total responsibility and zero authority over this crew, The Everton board were quite possibly dealing him the shittiest hand ever dealt to a premier league manager... Four games before he could get his coat off followed by an international break meant he has been unable to get his players on the training ground. He couldn't even sign new players to freshen things up. He was stuck with the misfits Koeman had brought in.

I don't think I've have ever wanted an Everton manager to win as much as I want Rhino to win tomorrow. I want him to be able to say that despite all the above, he was still able to move the club up a few places and out of the danger zone.

Kevin Tully.

Maybe you got your fingers burned by supporting the last two managers so readily, I don't know, but your comments are very disappointing. This is no Kellie Maloney. He's the only modern day player I can remember who entered Gwladys Street stand as a paying customer.

Rather than question his heartfelt pain. Why don't you spend a little time reflecting on job he has been trying to do... When you've done that you may want to give a little thought to the impossible circumstances under which he has been expected to do it.

Jesus Christ himself couldn't have turned it round because most of these players have been gutless and cowardly throughout.

He's been forced to chop and change to see if any of the useless fuckers would play to anywhere near their previous standards.

Every bit of criticism should be thrown right at the board who clearly know absolutely nothing about football.

Asking the players to stand up is also not going to work as there are no leaders apart from young Davies or Kenny and that will take years.

I thought City were shit last season with the squad and manager they had but slowly through organisation look at them now.

That organisation starts at the top and we have no leaders anywhere.

But the worst thing of all is that I just can't see us doing it.

Kenwright is the real villain of the peace, but Unsworth should of kept his head and insisted he stuck to the caretaker job only, until we appointed a experienced manager

No manager after 5 weeks and a hugely lob sided squad of players with zero fight despite pissing £150m up the wall. How can we spend so much and clubs like Atheltico spend buttons, but be so far away.

Niasse was minutes from leaving, and wasn't registered for Europa. Only incompetence saved us from losing our only goal threat.

Rooney was a spent force at United. £150k a week for a lad that's shot. Wtf.

No left back cover at all, and choosing not to register Garbutt and allowing Galloway to leave with no back up.

No left sided player cover with Bolasie out till new year.

No right back quality with Coleman ruled out till new year at best.

Central defence in a shambles Funes Mori out for the season, and Jags n Williams finished LAST SEASON.

This is systematic negligence.

I think I know what you meant Kevin, maybe having more of a go at the club, and it's incompetence, is what you really meant to do, but Unsworth has been out of his depth, and like Darren, I pray for a win tomorrow, because if we lose it's back into the relegation,places.once again.

Hopefully this experience will make Unsworth, a better manager in the long run, but I don't see it myself, and think he would be better suited trying to be either a coach or a number two.

If he wasn't on a hiding to nothing when he started, then the job only got harder and it wasn't just David Unsworth's lack of experience that stood out, because the way he's been treated by our board, has been absolutely shambolic. I wish Unsworth well, he will get another job, but the others, well I'm not so sure about them?

If Marco Silva was first choice, surely Fonseca is 2nd logical choice, not Allardyce.

The custodians of our club are inept, inadequate and gutless.

To call him out for being unable to improve our fortunes, to change the attitude of complacent millionaires, during that month is harsh in the extreme.

Nice eulogy of Unsworth's tenure but at the end of the day he just wasn't good enough. If he was, the players would have shown him a little more respect and there would have been a little more fight, especially in the last two games.

Some of the big time Charlie's in that side don't care less that Unsy's a true blue. His tenure's been very similar to that of John Carver at Newcastle. Players like Schneiderlin and Mirallas have no real allegiance to the club and will just move on if we get relegated. Maximum effort is the minimum requirement and as much as I don't like Allardyce we'll get at least that much and better drilled defence.

I'm actually coming round to the idea of Big Sam if some of the reports are true that we will have him until the end of the season. We can go back and get Marco Silva then.

When they didn't wait, I think we all saw that as them being 'decisive', which was a welcome change of pace.

Well that air of decisiveness has gone now. They look like they didn't have a clue what came next. I'd bet my bottom dollar that there is a war going on right now at the upper levels of the club. We're just seeing the symptoms rather than the true illness.

For the good of the club, they need to resolve this quickly. If there are differences at board level then we're just going to keep seeing the same problems. Kind of puts a new light on our inability to sign a striker in the summer. We've seen it over the last 5 or 6 weeks. What makes us think that January will be any different? And if January isn't any different, we're fucked with this current squad.

£6m a year. And 2.5 year contract. Who the fuck let this happen?

I have disagreed with some of his decisions, primarily playing Schneiderlin and keeping DCL on all game against Southampton. However, his hands have been firmly tied. When did he have time to drill the defence, which is the worst I can recall since I saw my first game in 1980? Koeman had time with these players in preseason, bought a lot of them and still failed miserably. At least Unsworth injected some fight and we now know Benigme is a talent.

Unsworth had virtually no backroom staff as the majority were sacked and no time to get any in. He has had no support from the board and has been left in limbo from game to game. Koeman chopped and changed and couldn't find the right formula with the players even though he bought them, that is after being in charge for 18 months too!

My question to the detractors, and it is a genuine one: What do you think he should have done differently?

Missed your post before posting mine! 100% in agreement.

My worry is, can anyone get anything out of this group?

As for Darren ' our saviour is Unsworth' Hind you've been proved wrong Darren mate at least have the humility to admit it.

I don't care if Unsworth shits blue shit, he's not capable of being EFC manager in the Premier League.

We are now about as feasible a proper football club as, today, Bramley Moore is a proper football stadium. The current board need to be jettisoned, pronto, and we need to hope Moshiri has hitherto unseen acumen in then appointing people we do need.

He did the job with dignity. He showed a capacity to learn and to listen. He would have sorted things out and stopped the rot if he had authority in dealing with the players. He certainly had one arm tied behind his back.

And most importantly, he had no time to drill the defence and fix what was wrong at the back. As Allardyce will no doubt prove, it doesn't take much to fix what is wrong here. It just takes time and energy, and any idiot can do it.

He was Kenwright's romantic pick because he would bow down and kiss blue bills blue arse.

If Unsworth had any ambition at all in being a top level manager he wouldn't be doing what he has been for years- hiding- within EFC rather than cutting his teeth in the lower leagues.

I've nothing personal against Unsworth I'm just saying it how I see it. According to Mr.Hind Unsworth was our saviour. He was wrong. FACT.

They will welcome the gossip about Rooney's chavvy tart... Druggies... Prezzies... Jailbird.. Etc etc.

It's wrong of you to lie and say I claimed I said "Unsworth was our saviour" and you look rather silly trying to score the cheapest of points trying to do so.

I wanted Unsworth in the job months ago, before last season even finished, I certainly won't be denying it and when he was asked to step in save the disaster created by the guy you so stubbornly supported. I looked at the options and STILL wanted it to be Unsworth.

You see, unlike you, I understood the reality of the situation. I knew we were in total disarray and that ANYBODY would have struggled to arrest the freefall created by the rotten atmosphere that had been allowed to fester in our dressing room. I understood that the damage was done in the Europa League and I don't give a fuck about dead rubbers.

I stand by my belief that Rhino was the best man for the job. He didn't get the opportunity to get his ideas across, but the confidence-drained disjointed team he inherited have come from behind five times in the past three games. That shows these confused players are at least fighting for him.

If you want to come on this site and try to tell others they got it wrong, you may want to sit in front of a mirror and ask yourself why you so staunchly supported a guy as he squandered £200M to produce a team heading towards the Championship playing Zombie football . . You may want to ask yourself if you are in any sort of position to try to tell anybody else they had gotten it "wrong"?

Because of the situation he inherited, knowledgeable Evertonians will not judge Unsworth. You don't need to leave this page to see that... but if, in the future, you want to see how they and history treat your man, just take a look back anytime in the future.

Why didn't he stick with that formation and line-up??!!

Unsworth problem was he dealt the hand he was given wrong, and carried on were honest Ron left off, chopping and changing, instead of trying to settle us into a system, which is hopefully what the next manager will do now, fucking pronto.

Now we will never know how Unsworth would have got Everton out of trouble or not, but I thank him for his efforts.

Personally I think Allardyce will give us a better chance of staying in the premier league, especially if Sammy Lee is part of his coaching staff, nothing is guaranteed but the quicker Allardyce starts the better for Everton.

It's not just the shambles at the back it's midfield and up front. It's not just what's happening on the park but off it. Fitness levels are atrocious, the players seem knackered after the pre-match warm up!

Unsworth was given an impossible remit. A complete clear out is needed, both playing staff and boardroom. The Club is a laughing stock and embarrassment.

For anyone to think that this is an easy fix is frightening and whoever comes in will need the luck of the devil and the rest of the season to hopefully sort it – just to evade relegation.

You're completely wrong about Darren. He never said that Unsy was our saviour. He said that Rhino could do the job as well as Ronald Koeman, and after 1 win in 7 games, Darren's been proved absolutely right.

Rhino – the fella "who isn't up to the job" – Stepped up to the plate when we were in the bottom three and in free fall, after six games he has us two points from 9th place. He didn't have any money to spend and he didn't have the luxury of being able to train with his players.

When we lost narrowly at Chelsea and Leicester most fans knew we had given it a good go. When we lost heavily in the European dead rubber Most didn't think it mattered. The clueless Koeman had long since fucked our chances up in that competition.... and when we lost heavily to Southampton, people realised that we had three defenders missing and we lost two more from an already makeshift defence.

But here's the thing. Rhino was given a simple remit, get us out of the shit, He has now done that and hands over the team in much better position than when it was handed to him. Allardyce takes over a team within touching distance of the top half and with a home game against a shell shocked Huddersfield which will virtually guarantee it.

The support for Unsworth was deafening tonight. "RHINO! RHINO! RHINO" rang around the ground as the faithful roared their appreciation and gratitude. A very knowledgeable crowd are the Goodison faithful? They understood that despite all the handicaps and obstacles. Their boy had done good... He'd done better than good.

What deafening applause. You two would have loved it.

Wake up, pal.