Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton
A rare goal by Idrissa Gueye gave Everton the platform to end 2017 with a victory but it was Bournemouth who found a winner
Everton finished 2017 with Sam Allardyce's first defeat as manager as Ryan Fraser's deflected winner handed Bournemouth their first win in nine games.
The Blues had been punished by the diminutive midfielder in the first half when James McCarthy's giveaway led to him scoring the opener and while Idrissa Gueye scored a well-taken equaliser 12 minutes into the second half, the visitors couldn't hold on to a point.
Gueye had been expected to sit out again after straining his hamstring against Chelsea last week but he was selected in a defensive midfield trio that was rounded out by Morgan Schneiderlin and James McCarthy, making his first appearance since returning from hamstring problems of his own.
The overtly defensive posture had predictable ramifications for Everton's ability to attack; while there was, on the whole, a good deal more passing and confident possession of the ball, Dominic Calvert-Lewin remained an isolated and ineffective presence up front.
Unsurprisingly, therefore, it was Bournemouth who had the better chances in the first period. Callum Wilson rolled Michael Keane easily and saw his half-volley beaten away by Jordan Pickford while Jordan Ibe was also foiled by the Blues' keeper who pushed his fierce drive behind.
The home side did take the lead in the 33rd minute, however, when McCarthy's back-pass was collected by Wilson, he fed Josh King and when the ball was squared across the box, Fraser was there to steer the ball past Pickford.
Allardyce made a much-needed change at the break, introducing Wayne Rooney, returning from a virus, withdrawing McCarthy and, combined with Oumar Niasse's introduction for Calvert-Lewin soon afterwards, the change in formation would contribute to Everton regaining parity within 12 minutes.
Rooney had dragged a left-footed shot narrowly wide and when Simon Francis gave the ball away to Gylfi Sigurdsson from the resulting goal kick, the Icelandic international picked out Niasse in the Bournemouth area. His lay-off found the advancing Gueye and he swept it home to make it 1-1.
Everton failed to push on from there, however. Instead, it was the Cherries who responded, with Francis exchanging a one-two pass and sliding it square to Wilson but Pickford was there again to make an excellent save.
Benick Afobe came very close to putting Eddie Howe's men back in front when he turned neatly past his marker but a heavy touch took it through to the ‘keeper before Yannick Bolasie replaced Gueye with 20 minutes left.
The Congolese winger had one chance where he eschewed a decent shooting opportunity and chose to play it wide to Niasse and then ballooned over when the Senegalese striker's cross was headed out to him.
Then, three different episodes where Everton sloppily gave the ball away in their own half put them in danger of falling behind again. Pickford had to race off his line to avert danger on the first two occasions and then parry another effort from Ibe who then clipped the crossbar as Bournemouth continued to threaten.
After Sigurdsson had had a shot charged down at one end, the hosts made the breakthrough that they had been threatening after the protection afforded by Gueye had been lost in midfield at the other.
Fraser was played in on the edge of the Blues' box and with Keane backing off, he jinked his way into position before firing a shot off the defender's heel and over the stranded Pickford with just a couple of minutes left on the clock.
The loss ends Allardyce's seven-match unbeaten run in all competitions and keeps Everton's attacking deficiencies in sharp focus as the January transfer window approaches.
Everton end the year in ninth place but will rue having dropped five points from two winnable games against two teams struggling near the bottom of the table over the Christmas period.
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1 Posted 30/12/2017 at 18:20:24
We have had no attack at all yet this season; it needs to be fixed next week. The fallout from Koeman's diabolical transfer window is still toxic and lingering.
One attacker will not fix the problem we need 2 or maybe 3.
McCarthy and Bolasie still not sharp enough for the first team but hopefully will improve in the very near future.
2 Posted 30/12/2017 at 18:44:55
We will get smashed on 5th January.
3 Posted 30/12/2017 at 18:54:49
We're about to hit a tougher round of games. Of course we don't have the distraction of playing on a Thursday... but I think our patience is going to be tested.
4 Posted 30/12/2017 at 19:13:45
We need far more quality going forward. I'd go as far as saying we need a complete overhaul of our attacking options there's no pace and no power; the few who do have a bit of pace just don't have any end product.
5 Posted 30/12/2017 at 19:15:12
This squad has so many gaps and a huge lack of quality. More worrying is the replacement names being put up look no better.
We seem to have gone massively backwards from a time when Moyes could pick a player, but no bloody money to buy them with.
6 Posted 30/12/2017 at 19:20:11
7 Posted 30/12/2017 at 19:30:25
8 Posted 30/12/2017 at 19:51:08
Today we made ridiculous defensive errors. The second half changes did bring about some improvement, but there is still a long way to go.
Negativity is not due to Allardyce. I still think that Koeman brought about the total chaos we see today. Unfortunately he made the worst and most expensive signings ever. Everton need to be sure they don't do the same thing in January.
After seventy years of supporting I still say, "Once a Blue always a Blue". But lately it is a very frustrating and difficult challenge.
9 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:08:03
10 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:08:57
The squad both Sams have inherited, but to play the starting line up today with three ultra defensive MFs, showed too much respect for AFCB, whom couldn't win in the last three months, and as ever gratis magna all, EFC, stroll up and make their day by surrendering feebly.
We all feel the pain and the supporters whom went today should be refunded for every outlay they paid to watch this today.
It's Sams inherited squad, he picks the team, but surely now playing DCL, in solo mode is finished as it's like playing in space and the ball gets close but never arrives..
I live in hope but without the best EPL keeper again playing out of his skin, we'd have been stuffed by at least 5. In all my time watching 45 years, the last 3 years have been the worst in terms of playing style and lack of conviction and drive in the club, made worst in some ways by seemingly being in our must lucrative position in history in terms of finance and trading capability in the xfer market.
I really hope the Sams do well and the club prospers, but there's some very tough games the next month, and I hope and pray we turn up and play with belief and have a go against Manure and in the FAC away match at our old ground next Friday.
It seems RK really didn't have a clue but since the home loss v Sunderland at Chrimbo 2013, the rot started and a few flashin the pan unbeaten runs but without ever beating the rivals away, the demise has been constant.
New year and fresh hope and for all of us let's home, EFC picks up, with genuine plans and intent.
Now for a month of miracles for the forth coming games...let's hope we start shooting at least... Living in hope..
11 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:15:33
Hes not good enough at this level but its not even worth blaming the lad , hes tried but it should never have been down to him to shoulder the burden , if Koeman had his way Niasse would have been sold an hour before that August deadline day too, just what the hell was that Dutch fool thinking???
Then you have a rookie right back filling in for a man who broke his leg in March .
A free agent average at best right back (Cuco Martina) filling in at left back because we failed to replace our ageing 33 year old regular left back Leighton Baines.
Its just descended into a total farce.
Koeman, Walsh , I dont know who was in charge of transfers last summer but they failed the club drastically.
Too much time (and far too much money ) spent on Sigurdsson, who for the fee he commanded just doesnt impact games enough.
A combined 48 million quid wasted on Schneiderlin and Klaassen, truly horrendous management that was.
The only roaring success has been Pickford .
The seeds to a poor Everton team were sown in summer , not sure what we can expect Allardyce to really do with the shit available.
12 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:15:49
While successive managers are now counting their winnings after screwing the club and fans we continue on the path of total mediocrity and hopelessness for the coming future.
13 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:17:55
I see a lot of our fans are bemoaning a lack of a good striker. Here's a question: If we do land a half-decent striker or two, who the hell is going to feed them? The lack of creativity in that midfield is diabolical! It's pedestrian, bereft of ideas, and – worst of all – lacks the one ingredient vital in today's game... Pace!
What does that impostor Schneiderlin have to do to be dropped? A complete average footballer and the biggest waste of money in the club's recent history.
Ditto Sigurdsson. I thought he was starting to show signs that it was going to turn for him but no; he's morphed back into the player that was shocking under Ronnie boy. Another one with a distinct lack of pace
I'm expecting more of the same against Man Utd, which is a shame Because, let's be fair – they can be got- at. Bad day all round.
14 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:34:19
15 Posted 30/12/2017 at 20:45:23
The Echo is rarely right, but it is on this occasion. And to be fair Sam has said as much too. He tried to be more positive in the second half, but we're shit. The best we can hope for this season is avoiding a relegation scrap. I'm not sure this transfer window will do an enormous amount to help us, but perhaps Coleman returning will, and Baines too to a lesser extent.
16 Posted 30/12/2017 at 21:25:58
Keane just seems totally unaware of whats going on around him and its no coincidence that as soon as we give Holgate and Williams a rest we start conceding goals.
I then suffered watching Southampton playing some good stuff and totally embarassing United and wished it was us but we will probably get thrashed on Monday.
17 Posted 30/12/2017 at 21:38:21
Incompetent, impotent fat tool.
Sam is undertaking a salvage operation.
Good luck to him.
18 Posted 30/12/2017 at 21:52:04
In the next month, Everton can buy Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robert Lewandowski, or any top level forward and it will be useless. With the disastrous manager that we have he will also put them to defend.
19 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:22:35
Schneiderlin should never wear the shirt again..
From the moment of mccarthy back pass he jogs back into the box with Fraser tearing past him to score.
20 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:27:23
21 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:27:25
He has no intention of playing offensive football. He has form, gets a nosebleed above 10th place; out of his depth and comfort zone...
22 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:33:01
I don't blame Sam as he did not buy any of this rabble but he needs to get players in and get some out as quickly as possible because we are anti-football at this moment in time.
23 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:39:53
1 shot on target? Along with 3 against WBA make that 4 shots on target against 2 of the bottom 3.
Can't wait until this season is over. Koeman et al left us is a mess but I never wanted Sam, still don't. Now you see why. After the honeymoon period of playing a couple of shite teams at home has truly gone after 4 dreadful performances. If this guy is still in charge next season then I'll be on an even longer hiatus.
24 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:48:57
take, Mason in place of Keane , henceforth and thus we need x 2 CBs - De Vries plus the Napoli lad and at least 1 LB and x2 CFs.
We sadly I have to say are playin alehouse and We need miracles in abundance for the next month..
I'm seeing 100pc , at the long term damage that RKs term did.. The heart and soul had been lost by a massive amount. Steve Walsh must be on double OT rates now to last, as we are in my view on the ropes, just off the floor. 3 and at least 4 top signings needed and a proper club captain who will lead by example , aka Rooney in his prime.
Happy New Year to All Evertonians.
25 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:51:58
26 Posted 30/12/2017 at 23:57:37
I fully expected us to park the bus against the big 6, but that means being more expansive against the rest!
27 Posted 30/12/2017 at 00:04:03
We can blame the likes of Koeman/Martinez all we want, but Sam is not even TRYING to win games with his tactics!
28 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:07:09
29 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:22:18
Someone thought that this man should be our coach. That Sam Allardyce and Everton should be linked. Sad days.
30 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:23:59
31 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:27:09
32 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:41:09
33 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:46:48
This will probably go through in late January after hes injured himself playing tiddlywinks.
34 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:48:19
We still need about six players the only player worth keeping is Pickford; the rest are not good enough.
35 Posted 31/12/2017 at 00:59:09
36 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:00:06
37 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:00:06
38 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:00:06
39 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:00:06
40 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:00:06
41 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:01:22
Hugely disappointing game I think everyones said the obvious and Ive been droning on about Sneid and gana playing in the same team, but 3 managers have a paired them together with predictable outcome. SA is suppose to be this statistic and tactical genius and he cant see that?
42 Posted 31/12/2017 at 01:01:48
I cannot see the confirmation on any single news outlet?
43 Posted 31/12/2017 at 02:03:26
I understand your sentiments regarding entertainment and Im just as frustrated about today. Especially setting up with 3 defensive mids.
I cant forget where we were 4 weeks ago though. We were doomed. If we hadnt have acted decisively by bringing in a manager who would tighten us up we were starring survival in the face. We have somehow managed to get ourselves clear and up to 9th but we are hardly pleasing on the eye. The reason? Poor squad of players who deserve to be no higher than they are. The problems at the club are not recent there has been a steady decline for many years with poor recruitment and not replacing players early enough.
Im not a big Allardyce fan but I really havent got time for Martinez or Koeman who have got us to this place.
44 Posted 31/12/2017 at 02:13:47
Performance is the best indicator of future results. The performance here was every bit as shit as the others that have yielded results.
As for the game in isolation, why the hell we didn't just put it out when Martina was injured I don't know. Instead McCarthy aborts a pass that the 'stricken' Cuco was blocking and instead tries a suicide pass. Cuco can get fucked too - there was nothing wrong with him and he should have been up and helping the team.
Just a horrible game to watch. Par for the course with us.
45 Posted 31/12/2017 at 02:48:32
46 Posted 31/12/2017 at 03:12:03
This game was the first one where I really didnt understand the tactics. Schneiderlin, Gueye and McCarthy as a central three was absolutely criminal. Not one of them has a forward pass in them. I can accept it from Gueye as he is wonderful in other areas. Schneiderlin is the current whipping boy, and for good reason. I cant decide if he cant be arsed, or if we are just witnessing the absolute collapse of a (formerly) good player.
Bolasie is not even 60% fit. How the hell can he be? Has the bloke even had 90mins for the U23s? One of the worst injuries a footballer can have, particularly when you are such an explosive player. Shocking decision to include him instead of Lookman or Vlasic.
Martina is trying his best, but he is going to go down as one of the worst Koeman signings, and thats saying something. Doesnt a leftback, generally, have to be capable of kicking the ball with his left foot?
One thing Im sure of...its not going to take much for Everton fans to turn on Allardyce.
47 Posted 31/12/2017 at 04:02:16
48 Posted 31/12/2017 at 05:44:47
49 Posted 31/12/2017 at 09:02:52
We are entrenched in a battle for survival, not one transfer window has been traversed yet, Bournemouth are battling for their lives did we really expect this to be an easy fixture, given the weakness in the present squad.
Of course the football isn't going to be pretty, we lost a battle today, but I'm confident we will win the war. Allardyce is on an 18 month contract and looking at some of the other candidates for the job, Silva for instance, he is the best man for the job.
50 Posted 31/12/2017 at 09:12:03
51 Posted 31/12/2017 at 09:55:41
We have much bigger problems than Sam Allardyce as manager.
Quite simply our players are not good enough and it is going to take a major overhaul of the squad before our expectations can be met.
With our current board and owner this would take many years and to be honest I do not have much faith in them doing it anyway.
52 Posted 31/12/2017 at 10:06:43
53 Posted 31/12/2017 at 10:18:41
Who? So those of us who are being realistic and can at least recognise that Allardyce has steered us to safety are "Allardyce lovers" and as such are to be sneered at?
Let me repeat - I did not want Allardyce any where near my Everton and the linking of his name to us appals me BUT - I do believe we would be at least 5 points worse off now without him and I, as well as many on here, could not see where the next win was coming from.
If recognising the job he has done so far and not screaming anguish at the defensive strategy to achieve it means I'm an "Allardyce lover" then Marry me Sam - I'll be the lady, and you'll be the man!
54 Posted 31/12/2017 at 10:20:56
Has anyone heard if The Chief Exec has been struck dumb he is the "operations manager" for Everton FC and the silence from him is deafening he should be assuring those who have invested their hard earned in Season Tickets and Everton Merchandise instead of insulting them with his total silence.
55 Posted 31/12/2017 at 10:24:43
56 Posted 31/12/2017 at 10:33:18
57 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:08:24
Look all clubs rotate players during this period but to play McCarthy and Bolasie is bordering on desperation.
So again he chooses to leave out our best defender in recent weeks Mason Holgate, who in partnership with Williams have looked our best pairings. So back comes Keane, now I know many have complained about Klassen and Sandro being bad buys but for me Keane is the worst of the 3. His positional sense is awful and once an attacker has got him turning its like watching Bambi on ice. for their first goal yesterday a truly awful pass from McCarthy but Jagielka had the man marked now all Keane had to do was look behind him to see were the danger was. But no he stood there in no mans land ball watching which gave their lad a simple tap in.
I know Man Utd are not playing well but if we sit back as we probably will with 10 men behind the ball, then they will probably find a way to score against us. Then its our nemises in the FA Cup I dread to think what might happen in that game.
58 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:18:50
Sam has already stated a number of times that he believes we do have creativity in the squad but insufficient quality strikers to benefit from it. I think we need to be patient and see how he sets up once we have more quality upfront.
59 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:19:38
1: Schneiderlin just ain't good enough. If he played as good as he talks he would be a fucking world beater.
2: Baines been a great player over the years but age has finally caught up with him. Not even worth a squad place now as he is hardly ever fit.
3: Jagielka like Baines, he's been great for us but he is just too slow now and has dropped too many bollocks the last couple of seasons.
4: Williams Never got our money's worth out of this player.
5: Ramirez Seems to be way out of his depth in a very poor Premier League. Not had many chances, yes, just doesn't seem to have the quality he showed in Spain. Big shame though.
6: Mirallas Should have got rid 2 seasons ago when we could have got a few quid for him. Too inconsistent and a fucking big baby.
7: McCarthy Massive injury problems for this lad who had so much promise. I fear an early end to his career for this fella. A luxury we can no longer keep.
8: Klaassen It's obvious this player has struggled since we signed him; he looks lost everytime he takes to the field. I don't think he will make the grade here. Take a loss and put him and us out of our misery.
9: Besic Like McCarthy, hardly ever fit. Shown great promise when we first signed him but everytime he plays, you think he isn't gonna make it through without seeing a red card. Not good enough.
So, 9 players I would like to see gone in the next 2 windows. I don't want us to replace shite for shite, so Steve Walsh had better start earning his fucking money as of now, because this far he has been as big a waste as the Dutch prick we have just got rid of. Excuse the French & have a good New Year, fellow Blues. Let's all hope 2018 is gonna be a lot better than 2017.
60 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:21:58
They have been getting away with it for years and taking the easy option. Sick and tired of the pricks thats are incharge at the top. Thats where are problems over decades ultimately lies.
61 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:29:55
I actually read this thread before finding out the United the result and from what I saw here I expected to find out that Southampton had slaughtered Man U (the team beaten 2-1 by Burnley on Boxing Day) instead I discovered that they drew 0-0 managing 3 shots on target.
If we manage that I trust that everyone will rave about how good we were.
This team (scarily) is doing better than it was. Anyone who thinks differently is conveniently forgetting those final games under Koeman and most of Unsworth's as well. Nobody likes watching Everton the way we are but most of understand that we will have to get through it.
Allardyce hasn't inherited a squad he has inherited a group of players. He has admitted that there are too many of them to assess properly and quite possibly saw the Bournemouth and West Brom games as an opportuntity to try things out. Perhaps assuming that the price some of these players cost he thought they should be able to beat these teams.
Until the last two games he played it safe and managed to get some good results. Then he experimented against two weaker teams, if he carries on experimenting against Manure then my guess is wrong, but if he returns to his preferred central defence, plays Rooney and Siggy in the positions that had worked well before Roo got the Flu then maybe he has more nous than some people give him credit for.
This season is all about stopping the rot that began when Moyes left and got out of hand under Koeman.
People moaning that our season will be over if we get knocked out of the FA Cup should be glad, I had visions of our season going right to the wire...whether we stay up or go down. SA has, at least as they're concerned saved us from that already. Personally I think there is still a long way to go but I hope they are right. (Yes I know they were using it as a stick to beat the Big Guy).
I'll still support the boys and I'll accept the dross for a little while longer yet, if it's still the same at the end of the season...then I'll call for a change.
62 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:32:42
But on to my obsession, Schneiderlin. I've just watched the lowlights on MOTD, and I've looked at their 2nd goal about half a dozen times. Now Schneiderlin isn't the only one a fault, but if anyone's got access to a recording of the goal concentrate on him.
Their player goes past Kenny, who incidentally went to ground too early, then Schnieds fronts him up, and does what can only be described as a 60's dance manoeuvre makes no attempt to tackle or track his run, instead runs or jogs into the box to get back into position.
Holding midfielder? really. Defensive? what would Lee Carsley or Makelele have done in a similar situation. Last year he looked like a Rolls Royce of a footballer, but like anybody who's bought a dodgy car that looks like a bargain on first viewing, the faults don't take too long to show through.
He offers nothing; doesn't defend, can't attack, he's the Claus Thomsen of the 2010's
63 Posted 31/12/2017 at 11:39:50
That sums the Bournemouth match in a nutshell, what the fuck was ole big thinking? He couldnt run at all, he couldnt even out pace the yard dog marking him and he turned like a steam train!
Noticed Davies was meant to come on and he switched to Yannick.
Whatever, Bolasie is no where near fit enough to play more than ten mins, McCarthy, half hour. Stupid fucking decisions that cost us dearly, we made Bournemouth, that team that hasnt won this side of a full moon( could be wrong) and we made their midfield look like superstars!
Plus their pies are shite!
64 Posted 31/12/2017 at 12:00:23
65 Posted 31/12/2017 at 12:13:12
Its been misery but the hope is that in 2018, the club stabilises and builds poisitive momentum...starting Tomorrow and Friday!
(Started 🍺early today as my birthday tomorrow) but every day is a good day.
What weve endured is in Biblibal proportions and its got to change , as the black humour aside , as supporting EFC should carry a Government health warning.
2018, the start of the “New Age at EFC”?
All The Best to all Evertonians and ToffeeWebbers , they will never stop our banter.
66 Posted 31/12/2017 at 12:15:54
This is a very good indication of how average/poor a squad that was left by Koeman imo.
Lots of posters still dreaming that this squad of players have the makings of a top team. Bringing in 2 unproven players in Lookman and Vlasic which is what most will be calling for, what else is there will not transform them into a top side.
Confidence, attitude and systems can all make improvements to performances but without quality which we severly lack the top 6 is not even close with the bottom 6 being more realistic.
67 Posted 31/12/2017 at 12:33:12
Man Utd drew in the end with Burnley, 2-2.
Wishing everyone a great night tonight and here's to an upturn in our great teams fortunes in the New Year whoever is in charge!
68 Posted 31/12/2017 at 12:39:45
69 Posted 31/12/2017 at 13:08:31
Sure, he started with three DMs, and if it wasn't for a dreadful back pass from McCarthy, who was immediately hooked, we would have gone in 0-0. But in the second half, two of the DMs were replaced by attacking options in Rooney and Bolasie, so we ended up with one DM on the pitch, and - in Lennon, Niasse, Rooney, Bolasie, Sigurdsson five attacking options. Sam clearly got it wrong, because we're simply not good enough to take on a nippy team like Bournemouth in a toe-to-toe attacking game. I'm just hoping he doesn't take that risk again until we've got a better balanced squad.
We should be aiming to grind out results for the foreseeable, then see where we are come May.
70 Posted 31/12/2017 at 13:49:42
On paper we are on a thrashing to nothing Fortunately we play on grass, not paper. A blizzard, howling wind and sub zero temps would help too
71 Posted 31/12/2017 at 14:45:18
Under Koeman we were in free fall, we could feasibly have seen ourselves in the bottom 3 at Christmas, and down by May.
I wasn't enamoured by getting Big Sam in as manager, but what he's managed in the past 6 weeks with the same terrible squad as his predecessors has been way above what any of us could have expected.
Remember these are the same players that got embarrassed by Southampton, should have lost to Brighton and might as well have not even turned up United, Leicester and Burnley. Of course the football is still awful and there are individual performances that are as bad as I can remember in 30 years, but Big Sam has had to organise a defence that has more holes in it than a slice of Emmental.
Guys, we're still playing Martina, Niasse, Schneiderlin Keane/ Williams, and Calvert-Lewin do people really think another manager could have got more out of this squad?
We've (sometimes) stopped the rot at the back, and I'd hope there are 3 signings to come in January, otherwise I'll be getting used to more of the same, occasionally beating teams below us in the league and playing for a draw every away game for the rest of the season.
72 Posted 31/12/2017 at 15:13:43
The reason why David Moyes could not win the Premier League he did not have the same financial clout until recently (and that was squandered by Koeman). That was down to having a chairman and board of directors in the past who believed they were running a fashion shop or a theatre.
73 Posted 31/12/2017 at 15:32:11
Enjoy the end of this one, and the start of the next. Best wishes to all.
74 Posted 31/12/2017 at 15:43:55
Actually whoever was scouting for recruitment did a good one too. Arteta, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines, Yobo, Lescott, Martyn, Howard, Johnson, Bent, Yakubu, Pienaar, Coleman, Donovan, McBride, even Fellaini and Jelavic (for a while).
All solid hires under financial limitations and only a few costly gambles in Van der Meyde, Krøldrup and probably Bilyaletdinov that has gone backwards since he left in my opinion.
For some reason, we have been paying a lot more for similar or worse calibre is it really just the market?
76 Posted 31/12/2017 at 15:46:27
Yesterdays mistakes: Playing McCarthy after being injured for so long, playing 3 defensive midfield players, dropping Holgate, playing 1 upfront, team sitting deep, moving Rooney back to play Bolasie who is clearly off the pace, and then blaming the players for making mistakes! The tactics are the manager's, he seems to be taking out all the youngsters and favouring older players? I hope Im wrong and Big Sam was just looking at the players in his squad and testing combinations? Or is that wishful thinking?
Its been strange to me the team selections and tactics in the past two games. The teams put out look very defensive, yet the manager bemoans lack of chances created? We play Calvert-Lewin up front on his own with what seems to be a big gap between him and the midfield players. And when we do get the ball upfront and play it into the box, no-one is there? Why? Because the first thought is defensive. Dont get me wrong; I dont want to be playing like those across the road, but our system and tactics need to be a little more offensive in my opinion.
Im not a Big Sam fan, I will admit that, but I do believe in giving managers time. My support is always for Everton FC and not particular for any one person in it, and as such, I always want and hope for the best, plus I think we Evertonians are the best and most knowledgeable supporters in the land. Thats may problem, we are making too many mistakes, basic mistakes at that, and it really is very frustrating for us fans. Its about time we played the best players in the best position, we brought players to fill the perceived weak positions, and we played to win as a team. Thats all I ask!
Im still giving my full support to my club, but let's start applying some common sense to the team selection and tactics please.
77 Posted 31/12/2017 at 16:04:11
In saying this, Everton with the players we have in our squad (if totally committed) should be more than a match for teams like Bournemouth, with all due respect.
Any team may have great players but, if most are not up for it, your opponents have an advantage and Everton just haven't been up for it lately, in my opinion.
Allardyce's first job was to has address the dire defending but he's not happy with what he has got so I wouldn't be surprised to see a signing. Going in to 2018, rumours that Mirallas, Schneiderlin, Sandro, Besic and Niasse have asked to leave in January, and will providing values are met.
Barkley will probably stay until the season ends unless he gets a mega offer from interested clubs he is the boss now, not Everton.
Happy New Year to ye all.
78 Posted 31/12/2017 at 16:59:59
Sammy, yes, Sammy Fucking Lee, contaminating our dugout.
This is as bad as it has ever been.Not a fucking one of them is fit to sit in Goodison Park.
79 Posted 31/12/2017 at 17:07:49
But there'll be Jam tomorrow.
80 Posted 31/12/2017 at 17:18:52
The real decline came when Koeman was hired, he was unable to acquire good players at a good price, instead over paid on players who are not up to standard, Koeman as well as being a poor motivator and organiser.
Then SA has been hired to sort Everton out defensively and keep Everton in the premier league. But Everton still have no soul until something happens on and off the field. So where Everton go from here, no-one really knows. Allardyce will do what is just needed in the short-term.
81 Posted 31/12/2017 at 18:02:15
82 Posted 31/12/2017 at 18:48:22
83 Posted 31/12/2017 at 20:17:15
On a brighter note Arsenal must be as bad as us, they drew with West Brom 1-1 as well. And Man City couldn't even beat Palace.
Footballs a funny old game.
84 Posted 31/12/2017 at 21:57:23
Jags turns his fucking back on a shot with 3 minutes to go and it goes in off his foot. Seriously, you don't do that in Sunday league.
Major overhaul required.
Dreading Monday and Friday.
85 Posted 31/12/2017 at 22:41:26
Sam Allardyce and his team will only be here until the end of the season, in my opinion.
I agree, he just doesn't fit long term. Like many a footballer, he has quite a high opinion of himself.
I expect Moshiri to demonstrate to all he can be ruthless.
86 Posted 31/12/2017 at 22:43:08
You're spot on though mate. What a fucking mess we are in. The club is in its worst state since I started watching back in 1963.
Happy New Year my arse!!!
88 Posted 31/12/2017 at 23:37:44
We have far better players in our squad and we seem incapable of putting two passes together. That's down to coaching.
89 Posted 01/01/2018 at 08:05:28
Concerned that he is beginning to sound like Koemann and blaming players passing.
Team Selection also puzzling and more so change at half time. As stated on live thread, I would have subbed Rooney for Sneids not Macca. Moved Macca back and allowed Gana move further up park.
My biggest consistent Moan is that habit we have developed since start of season of playing ball back to a goal keeper to hoof it up the field, particularly when his distribution is so poor. We must have done it at least 10 times against Bournemouth. That is a Koemann legacy and will really begin to believe in Sam when I see that habit eradicated
Another moan is that in these threads we have our favourite fall guys Macca, Williams, Sneids, Martina, even Sigs but in the games I watched:
Is Baines any better than Martina defensively,
Is Maccas poor backpass any worse than those of Davies, Gana, only difference is he didnt get away with it whereas others were bailed out by defence.
Would Williams or Holgate have turned their back on shot that lead to goal
Finally can our goalkeeping coach teach Pickford to
1. Keep ball in play from his hoofing of back passes
2. Hold the ball or deflect behind instead of parrying back into play.
Yes he made some brilliant saves but he is not without faults and exempt of criticism.
Happy New Year
90 Posted 01/01/2018 at 12:20:47
91 Posted 01/01/2018 at 12:38:38
92 Posted 01/01/2018 at 12:58:21
The big Sam haters have to accept that he is here for the next 16 months and get on with it. 1 loss in 7 with the bag of shite squad we have isn't bad.
We have a good goalie, a few good youngsters and Rooney. The rest are either too old, injured or very limited and very lucky indeed.
It's obvious we need a couple of strikers and players who can hurt the opposition but so do all teams. We are paying Walsh and co a small fortune to get the players in, let's see what happens in January and if Moshiri bankrolls the signings.
Mourinho is moaning about not matching City in the transfer market. That is an indicator of where we sit.
Blaming big Sam for a shit style of play is naive given the players available.
We have witnessed this type of footy since the purse strings got pulled on Walter Smith. I don't get what people want out of the current squad. We just aren't good enough to play attractive footy.
Under Roberto we had Barklay, Gerry, Lukaku with Jags Coleman Baines and Stones.
Now we have a 36 year old Jags an injured Baines and Coleman with very little else. What style and how do people want us to play.
Did anyone watch us under Koeman or Unsworth and think that we played great and were unlucky trying to play expansive football. Get real.
Let's hope we get a result today against a Man U money machine who play dour percentage football but who sit in the top 4.
93 Posted 01/01/2018 at 13:09:24
Rubbish. Name one Evertonian (apart from yourself) who that would suit.
94 Posted 01/01/2018 at 13:32:19
another miserable Christmas thanks to the blues while the RS go from strength to strength. We are
like Newcastle a poison chalice destined failure and mediocrity. If the RS fell down the toilet they would come up with a pot of gold whereas Everton would just fall down the toilet, End Of. We have had nearly 30 years as proof of this. I am afraid the Gods have deemed that they are not on the side of this once great football club. I am just praying for a miracle.
95 Posted 01/01/2018 at 13:40:18
96 Posted 01/01/2018 at 14:13:39
Change the record.
97 Posted 01/01/2018 at 14:23:17
What a pathetic post. What fan wants us to lose 5-0? Maybe losing by that score might suit you but it certainly doesn't benefit any Evertonian. With the tools at his disposal, he's done a great job so far. I just wish people like you would just accept it.
98 Posted 01/01/2018 at 15:03:51
99 Posted 01/01/2018 at 16:57:12
All of them.
I am playing the devils advocate here. Me, I'm just suggesting possible scenarios. A 5-0 win for the Blues on Friday would suit me, and that's a fact.
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