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Meis looking to capture the magic of Goodison
Dan Meis, head of the architectural firm charged with designing Everton's news stadium, recorded a video from New York for shareholders at the AGM
Architect Dan Meis says that he and his firm have a unique opportunity to create a stadium unlike any other in the Premier League with the site at Bramley-Moore Dock.
Everton's plans to relocate to the banks of the Mersey are progressing, with more than £9m spent on the planning and design phase so far. Evertonians have been waiting patiently for the first artist's impressions of the new stadium from Meis's studio and while none were provided at last night's Annual General Meeting, Meis recorded a video for shareholders that was played during the event.
“It's an incredibly exciting time for us,” he said. “I know there has been a lot of anticipation about seeing the building come along and we have done some work. I think 2018 is going to be a very exciting year for all of us as the project moves along.
“People have heard me say many times that it's pretty unusual for me to start a project with the kind of vision and brief that the club provided for us. That was one of the reasons why I was first excited about the project and then I fell in love with the club and Goodison.
“It's really become a really unusual and a a very passionate project for me and, I think, a career-defining one. That kind of strong vision about who the club is and who the community is will, I have no doubt, create a unique building that will be a model for football the world over.
“We've seen these modern buildings (stadia) become these kind of large, bloated — modern, yes; exciting, yes; spectacular, yes — but losing some of the intimacy, the power and the experience of sitting as close to the pitch and on top of the players as you can get.
“That has been the vision of the ultimate building. That's going to be unique when compared to any of the new [stadia] that we've seen in the league.”
Meis has made a number of trips to England as part of his research and Merseyside in particular to get a feel for Liverpool and to immerse himself in the culture of Everton FC and its supporters.
The immensity of a big occasion at the Grand Old Lady with Evertonians in full voice is not lost on him and the is determined to carry that into the new ground.
“The notion of [Everton being] the ‘People's Club' will be translating into the architecture,” he continued. “You can't see a game at Goodison and not understand how powerful the fans are to the outcome of the game.
“There's no better home pitch advantage than a building like Goodison and that kind of ‘fan first' and ‘football first' attitude has been at the core of everything we're doing in the early concept designs.
“I think one of the greatest challenges of this project is how you go from an iconic place like Goodison… there are memories in that building that you can't replace. What we think about the most every day is not to lose the magic of Goodison.
“That's one kind of ‘iconic' but now we have this incredible site on the river and the opportunity to do something that's architecturally iconic and to bring those two things together. We have the opportunity to do something that hasn't been done in any of the new [stadia] in the Premier League.”
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2 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:41:11
3 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:45:37
4 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:03:50
Would you buy a Car from him; if he was the Salesman?
As Colin mentioned he's taken a year to sharpen his pencils; hope he starts to get things in motion soon; and provides us with a decent Architect's Impression of what the finished design will look like: not one of these Airbrushed Postcard Impressions.
They say Rome wasn't built in a day; but they would have constructed The Colosseum, The Circus Maximus, and The Appian Way; while Dan has played his violin.
So come on down; and show us, You are Dan the Man.
We are getting Desperate Dan!
5 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:06:12
6 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:04:36
7 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:18:33
"Sitting on top of the pitch, fans as close to the pitch as possible".
To me that says we are looking at a tiered design that has quality overlaps that has fans on the first rows of the upper tiers close to the pitch.
How many stands that is for I don't know.
We have been told previously there is only the one large home end. While pleasing to have one, it is very disappointing to only have the one.
Whether that large home end is also tiered, who knows.
8 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:30:41
Iconic enough for you?????
https://images.cdn.fourfourtwo.com/sites/fourfourtwo.com/files/styles/inline-image/public/1svangaskardkids.jpg?itok=sN_xiD97
9 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:38:48
10 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:07:32
11 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:10:13
Let's just hope he delivers on his words, as it seems someone picked him out specifically for this.
13 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:20:20
I can just hope that we get better before I go in to never never land!
But, give Meis a chance. Things like this take time to evolve. Let's not be too hasty inner judgement!.
If I get the opportunity to travel back to UK or Europe this year via the States, I might just try to grab a lunch with him. Now wouldn't that be interesting. My Dad worked as a timekeeper at Smith Coggins at Birkenhead Docks. So I'm just a plain old, old Evertonian offering to buy him lunch to have a chat!!!?? I reckon he might take the chance! That's what I think of him.
Let's accentuate the positive, guys and gals!
14 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:55:55
Then I remembered the old saying: "Many a true word said in jest", and I started to worry.
15 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:01:51
16 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:02:44
Pure guess. But if this is the case, why on earth would the club release the first design draft, knowing as they do what TW is like! "Ah. come on, you told us it was going to be like dis! Now your changing yer tune! Can't trust dese buggers! Typical Kenwright."
17 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:07:16
My guess is that Meis is grappling with the challenge of giving almost every seat a view of George McKane Towers.
18 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:51:12
My guess is that he's spent the year looking at exactly how close he is allowed to have the first row of seats. My understanding is that any new stadium have to have the first row further back by 7-8 yards than we have at Goodison now. That for a beginning.
Then how to keep the Goodison feel of having the supporters right on top of the pitch, given this new distance.
Then, the seating capacity. Haven't read anything beyond speculation regarding that. How will the stands go up to project an intimate, yet intimidating place for supporters to enjoy and opponents to dread. Oh, and without a single, obstructed view.
Given the kinds of construction and design computer programs, he could do all that. I'll bet he has come up with several options by now.
But none of those options can be selected until he knows how the foundation of the building will go in. Which goes back to soil samples are still be taken for study.
Based on decisions finalized on how the foundation will be built, I would think Meis will present Moshiri with some definite ideas on how the stadium will go up. Will the length of the pitch run parallel to the river, angled, perpendicular even?
He can't know any of that because a decision on the foundation hasn't been made yet.
For me, it's definitely a go on the new stadium. So, I'm happy. If by the end of 2018, we don't see his vision in pictures, likely I will join the "What's going on here?" crowd.
Right now, he doesn't have the most basic of design information available; how the foundation will be constructed. Given that plain fact, I can't see how he can publish any "This is what we're going to do." designs for us to see.
Because he doesn't know, he can't know himself.
The work is ongoing. We'll find out soon enough what we'll be getting.
19 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:44:01
Power to the People's Club!!!
20 Posted 10/01/2018 at 15:31:32
I have news for Dan; they are not working; he looks like he has just been told The Grim Reaper has demanded an urgent meeting.
Well in Derek @19, he must have had some involvement Stateside too; because Tom; from Tom and Jerry; used to say "I hate Meises to pieces!"
22 Posted 10/01/2018 at 16:06:52
Is it just me (I know, I live in Yorkshire) or are we being taken for a ride? I would welcome an explanation from some of our TW building experts.
23 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:03:15
Even if they are only artist's impressions, it would give us a clue what to expect.
25 Posted 10/01/2018 at 18:19:00
26 Posted 10/01/2018 at 18:24:21
27 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:09:05
You're memory's going.
It was Mr Jinx who used to say that.
28 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:21:05
29 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:35:44
This isn't just a football stadium next to a scrubby park or in a grungy suburb (Anfield, the Etihad, Wembley), where the ground lends lustre to the district, this is an edifice which can and must combine with the location vast river, superb confident 19th century buildings, history as the world's greatest port. If he does not come up with something to make the entire planet look on with awe, he will know he has failed in his life's work.
This isn't a matter of money, it's an opportunity like no other.
30 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:47:04
http://sportsvenuebusiness.com/index.php/2017/06/03/dresden-home-worlds-first-suprastadio/
31 Posted 10/01/2018 at 22:14:37
32 Posted 10/01/2018 at 22:31:10
33 Posted 10/01/2018 at 22:57:13
34 Posted 11/01/2018 at 08:49:18
This is going to be so special that Anfield and LFC will in time becomes the areas second club, there WILL be a power change and shift its inevitable, such is the catalyst of the Bramley-Moore project and its surrounding development.
I know this was a dream 10 years ago but it will happen, Enjoy the ride and the envious comments and jealous sniping of the dark side along the way, and its going to be in bucket loads.
We may not have them on the pitch just yet but we have them on the stadium !
35 Posted 11/01/2018 at 08:55:24
It's a close call for sure, Will!
36 Posted 11/01/2018 at 08:56:16
It may well be, mate. "What a stadium."
37 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:52:51
Wow, what a stadium. That would do for me.
38 Posted 11/01/2018 at 14:32:00
Can't we get a Chinese building construction crew in and have it up and running in about 4 months. Stop messing about and get it done so can enjoy it before I go to Goodison in the sky. COYB.
39 Posted 11/01/2018 at 15:08:10
40 Posted 11/01/2018 at 16:45:42
41 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:43:35
42 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:56:28
Since the new place is going to happen, I'm as anxious as any of us to see what it will look like.
I do accept we'll have to be patient. Pretty exciting, though.
Just for fun, I'll guess capacity will be 52,000.
43 Posted 11/01/2018 at 22:09:58
44 Posted 12/01/2018 at 10:09:35
45 Posted 12/01/2018 at 11:44:41
46 Posted 12/01/2018 at 12:12:50
47 Posted 12/01/2018 at 13:15:01
48 Posted 12/01/2018 at 21:34:32
49 Posted 12/01/2018 at 23:30:23
Which places you an order of magnitude above me regarding engineering.
It amounts to the same thing, though.
There's calls fore some designs to show us. If it's the stadium design first or the foundation first; Meis cannot provide a look until he knows what is possible on the site.
And I'll stick to my guess on capacity being 52,000.
50 Posted 13/01/2018 at 07:23:09
51 Posted 13/01/2018 at 08:01:06
Instead of going further away from the pitch as the tiers get higher, it moves closer to the pitch. It would be a brilliant and an intimidating atmosphere a bit like Goodison (well maybe not this season).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/01/could-suprastadio-put-chelsea-liverpool-and-tottenham-to-shame-w/
52 Posted 13/01/2018 at 14:50:39
53 Posted 13/01/2018 at 15:15:58
54 Posted 14/01/2018 at 22:30:59
We have this once in a life time opportunity at a fantastic location and have to come up with something pretty special and "iconic". I'm worried that the club will let us down. We're teased with tasters about steep intimate seating and creating the closeness we get at Goodison, we know it won't be a bowl, but no one has yet said or shown what it will look like and what the capacity will be.
I appreciate everyone has their own views but i'm a big fan of the Lucas Oil Stadium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Oil_Stadium and there are many things that we can take from that ground will they listen?
Retractable roof would be amazing, on a cold waterfront, probably ruled out by Meis. Brick exterior, great for the dock side location, boxy design rather that a bowl makes it look like 4 stands. It seats 67-70,000. It's also built below ground level which is ironic as we have to fill in a dock to bring it to ground level. You can even hide seating if you're not using the full stadium.
I feel like a stuck record when I make this point but we need to have a big capacity to catapult us back up with the big teams as we are lagging behind. Any less than 60,000 will be a missed opportunity. Prefer 65,000 myself it would make a statement.
That's were my sceptisim comes in. Don't think some of the board are that ambitious yet look how other clubs attendances rise in line with bigger stadiums successful or not on the pitch. Beats me that anyone can think below 60,000 we have to at least be level with our rivals if not better.
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1 Posted 10/01/2018 at 06:17:06