Tosun determined to succeed in the Premier League

Agree 100%

I think he should take a leaf out of Niasse's book where he may not have all the skills required but he has fought his way back into the team with his never say die attitude.
Wish all of the players would have the same attitude.

The paint on your skirting boards here is still sticky.

Much as I am disappointed at Allardyce, and he has clearly contributed to the current malaise, including Garbutt and Vlasic potentially not seeming to have any opportunity to participate. What the hell are Everton management up to????

Everyone keeps going on about how much money we have spent. The reality is we are still shopping at poundland for both players and managers.

We have spent £200m, well that is what Citeh's defence cost and basically what Manure spent on Pogba and Lukaku. Plus what Sanchez will cost them in just wages.

We have still spent a good sum but £20 mill is the modern day equivalent of an average player in the PL. we ain't buying from Harrods

Any striker needs quality around them and I don't just mean 40 yards away.

All any striker asks is get the ball in the box and give them support.

With the loss of Fellaini, Barkley and Cleverly we have lost that thrust from MF.

Oh for an Arteta or Manny Fernandes.

Given the lack of service, support and overall attacking intent in his limited game time so far, it would be foolhardy to start suggesting he's not up to snuff already.

Don't hold your breath lad. when you get your chance you will be played in the Kevin Davies role.

Your only chance of a run of games is Sam being hounded out by the football lovers . .hopefully soon

"Welcome to Everton, I've announced to the press, that I think you'll really struggle, I think basically we have wasted our money, I think you will find the bench quite comfortable though."

Just what the lad needed, a few words of discouragement.

Sam has to go in the summer and, more controversially, so does Rooney. We need to build around Sigurdsson and foster team spirit. Rooney's been ok but I don't think he fits in. When he plays he has to be the funnel through which everything passes. I just don't think he's good enough for the role.

Our problem is that he came into a much better team.

He had zero service in either game, nobody got close to support him and on the basis of those two games Sam has decided he's not ready? Sorry Sam, what was it you were expecting to see from him in those two games that he didn't do?

Tell you what, why don't you organise the team and personnel at your disposal to support the main striker and create chances for them? Then we can judge him. No, you're right, it's easier to blame him and say he's not ready than admit the problem is the way you're setting the team up. Excellent way to divert attention from your own failings!

Poor useless sod been here 5 minutes and he wants out and back to Turkey. Strange request for a German one might say.

I did suggest he was the new, much more expensive, Sandro on various threads but others thought I was being a little harsh. Not so, but he will take a big envelope of his own back to Turkey, Germany or wherever he is directed to next.

“Yes I'm a Besiktas fan, but I'll never return to them without fighting and achieving things [at] Everton. That's not me. I'll show everyone in England who Cenk Tosun is. I have a dream. I never quit a [job] before completing it

This translates to Lenny as: Poor useless sod been here 5 minutes and he wants out and back to Turkey. Strange request for a German one might say.

Amazing!

A complete unknown bought by a manager notorious for deals that suit him, not the club or the fans.

On the subject of dreaming. He can come and join the rest of us on the Street if he wants to do that. He will have grey hair by the time he has completed the "I have a dream." Sounds more Martin Luther King than Cenk Tosun.

Put Sigurdsson behind him, play Walcott close to him, use wingbacks, give the bloke support - he can finish for sure.

Everton are still rudderless.

Get a grip man!

I'm not for one minute writing this signing off, as the whole squad are currently playing like an expensive version of Accrington Stanley, but for fooks sake, are we saying throw £30m in the kitty before we can expect 'decent?'

Some Blues have lost the plot after Walsh has spunked £250m. I suppose we can't expect anyone to run or complete a five yard pass unless you spend half a billion? Loons.

The mighty WHU would seem to be more appealing! Sad times.

Tosun is a team player, though technically excellent, he is dependent on support and movement around him; Allardyce's tactics don't suit him.

Tosun, a really good footballer, is going to have to develop a way of playing that is going to get him possession and give him scoring opportunities.

Meanwhile we continue with Martina, are there really no young left backs out there who could step up to the challenge?

Drop Bolasie and Schneiderlein, and play Davies, Gueye, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Tosun, Niasse. Coleman, Jagielka, Holgate, Garbutt, Pickford.

That's another shoe-horn team in my view.

Apart from a few who did get a fair shake, Johnson, Bent and Lukaku all the others such as Staquilersi, Traore, Niasse and dare I say Tosun cannot seem to get regular games.
Okay so Tosun may still come good but if he isn't ready now then why did Allardyce get him ?

I submit that Allardyce is just winging it as Koeman did and hasn't a clue about getting back the attitude and team spirit necessary to create a good team.

In all honesty I have never seen an Everton outfit play so many bad games in a season and I mean bad to the point of being pathetic.

When you see clubs like Watford, Bournemouth and Swansea take Arsenal, RS and Chelski to the cleaners in a manner far removed from anything Everton have produced all season, one wonders what the hell is going on.

They have shipped out one way or another a whole slew of players in the last 12 months and still they are left with a bunch of underachievers getting paid big wages.

The same poor performers are being selected no matter what and the same results keep shaming this once great club.

I just hope they have a contingency plan well in place to change the manager at the end of the season no matter what it costs.

“The manager, Sam Allardyce, has really supported me too. Our relationship is really nice. He wanted to bring me here and he is helping me a lot on and off the pitch. I am enjoying working with him. He knows my skills and its great to work with him.”

Of course he's unlikely to say anything controversial on stage in front of a passionate bunch of supporters, but it does seem that he wants to do well which is good for us isn't it?

If he turns out to be a Premier League turkey I just hope Moshiri's aware of who's earned a Royal Blue stuffing and takes appropriate action with a P45.

unerringly accurate.

Lawrence @70

Straight from the Horse's mouth

Good post fella

Get him on the pitch. Give him a chance, give him chances, give him time to settle.

Like Klaassen and Sandro, it's going to be hard to judge Tosun if he's never on the pitch for more than 10 minutes.

Clear that the current manager has decided he doesn't 'fancy' certain players. Hope the next one does.

Coming from a totally different culture like Tosun it's going to be hard, it's finished Sandro will to succeed here and you'd not be surprised if Tosun was only here short term before another Sandro/Klaassen situation develops.

He gets my support until his position becomes untenable. It certainly isn't at that stage yet.

He covered himself. I don't reckon he would be too disappointed with the pay off.

I lost my patience after the Arsenal-game, there was so much wrong with that gameplan, the setup, the approach, the players chosen, the statements afterwards deflecting blame...

I feel the only thing he can do is more damage! If we drop points against Crystal Palace I'm totally convinced; Allardyce must out now!

Lenny (#38) "How much was in the envelope for Sam I can hear being asked." You must have ears like a Fruit Bat because I can't hear anyone saying that.

And just to put things in perspective, Jams (#17) mentions the disparity between our spending and the other clubs Man United are spending ٟm a week... on the wages for Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez. Just let THAT sink in...

The club needs some stability until we are safe, so Sam and his team look like they have Moshiri's support until then.

However, any more of last weekend's rubbish and he may be gone a lot sooner, with Silva coming in initially short-term until the summer to see what he can do.

Firstly, Sam needs to realise Schneiderlin and Williams need to buck their ideas up or leave. They are 2 players just going through the motions. They are a liability in their current state.

Results and performances will determine whether he is the man for next season.

I can not believe Kenwright or Moshiri sanctioned the Tosun signing after all the terrible business we did in the summer. It's one thing to back your managers but allowing them to squander huge amounts of money on unproven gambles from weak European leagues is another.

It's not Cenk's fault he is out of his depth at this level, it's the recruitment policy at this club that is fucked up. I could spend 㿅 million more widely on a striker than what we have bought in Tosun. I don't think the Turkish league is much stronger than the English League One. It is a disgrace and a shame to put the lad in this position.

I wonder if Allardyce had a say in this signing because he instantly froze out Tosun after one game. This deal has Walsh's fingerprints all over it. Awful piece of business yet again.

HA HA HA, I may have had a bit to drink but that's hilarious!

We have had no thrust from midfield since Gravesen! Barkley has a sticky thrust button and became so indecisive that he stopped using it. Shame because he still has that magic but he needs a Harry Redknapp manager not another drill sergeant that he's gone too.

I'm hoping Vlasic becomes that driver... in a year or two.

FFS, give the guy a chance, odds are he may be finding it difficult to settle in, language, food, customs etc.

It has become patently obvious that he can't, as seen by him him being first in front of the cameras to lay the blame on everybody else and not taking an ounce of blame himself for his team selection and tactics.

As someone said on another thread as soon as he signed that contract they were his players, and if he can't do anything with them have the good grace to let the club know and resign. I mean how can any manager worth his salt say he watched Swansea beat Arsenal and changed his tactics.

I personally think we will stay up not because of Allardyce but in spite of him, and soon as this egotistical dinosaur is gone the better.

We did draw at City, beat Bournemouth, Stoke and draw at Brighton under Koeman this season so he's as likely to have done the same as Allardyce in the main results wise.

What and give up a years wages by resigning?
Not a chance. Would you?

There's got to be something out there, as Spooky Mulder said .

Please.

He's been here 5 minutes for Christ's sake.

Has Allardyce been sacked yet?

To be fair, I would also consider a discreet piece of repositioning if I was you. It must be really embarrassing for the likes of Mike Hughes, Tony Hill and yourself to read the posts you made backing the great Neanderthal.

While he is feeling fresh at the moment, the left-back – whose current contract expires at the end of next season – admits that he isn't setting himself any long-term goals over longevity in the top flight.

He said: “I haven't set any targets, you just have to see how long your legs will carry you.

“Those decisions are not yours to make. The hope is that you can carry on forever but everyone knows it's not possible and your body will naturally decline.

“I think whoever is at the club, the manager and the other people, will eventually make that call.

“The onus is on the individual – myself – to live my life right and be as fit as I possibly can so I can look at myself in the mirror when the times comes when they say ‘you're not for us any more' because I'll have given it everything I've got.”

Perhaps, Leighton was just being pragmatic but has he inadvertantly let the cat out of the bag with his "whoever the manager is" quote, or more probably I'm trying to find a glint of light at the end of the long-dark tunnel?

If you don't behave I will come around and pull your pigtails 😁

Embarrassed by giving an opinion?
Some foolish posts on here at times. Yours is right up there with them.

Quick one.
How do you get to be an apologist on day one?
What did Sam do on day one that required an apologist?

Also stop loaning players out. We bought them play them. Get Galloway back and when Lookman returns play him. Get some fire in these lads' bellises. No more of this negative shite. We have good forwards let them run at some of these defenders.

At the moment it's like the dressing room is cursed. Get in there and come on you blues. On our day we can best anyone.

Stop it with all the creative little flicks and quick touches. This is Everton under Sam! Hold the ball up you Neanderthal!

This man will flourish under the correct manager.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5358699/amp/First-Brit-dark-skinned-blue-eyed.html#ampshare=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5358699/First-Brit-dark-skinned-blue-eyed.html

Also, to label Keane,Sandro, Klaassen, Bolasie & Lookman as flops is just plain stupid. All of these players have been quality players when we have brought them and all have been playing in a disorganised team with players who don't have a clue on the system or the tactics the manager has set.

Lookman is the exception here as last season he was playing in that team against city in which he showed his quality, Keane hasn't found his rhythm with us yet and that is mainly down to the fact he has not had a run of games.

Any manager will tell you that you pick your best back 4 based on stats and work in training and you leave them be unless injuries state otherwise, they need to play together to gel and they just haven't had that opportunity and that is the main reason we are leaking goals like we are.

We had it with Martinez who stuck with Tim Howard, we now have Sam who is sticking with Martina, Schneiderin and Williams.

For those still backing Sam, you might have a few more on your side if he realised what players are costing us games week in, week out.

Give Klassen a go alongside Gana, get Jagielka in Place of Williams or even Holgate, give Garbutt a run out at left back.

For anyone saying may not be up to scratch in training, that means nothing if the three above are pulling up trees in training, and getting picked because of it.

That is why a lot of us are hacked off with Sam and not posters defending him.

Never ever change a winning team, unless forced by injuries or suspensions.

Forget the Arsenal game, Sam needs to learn from the Leicester game, and learn from that game.

They had hardly dipped their toe into the water. I am sure you all get my drift.

Either Big and Little Sam both threw double sixes on their die simultaneously or Big Sam was referring to the link provided. I get the feeling that too many football managers are over relying on technology, rather than assessing the talents of footballers with their own eyes. How long before Moshiri or other owners dispense with the manager altogether and pick the team via their lap-tops using specialist computer software?

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